Ship Zone Leonard And Penny Shippers Thread (Possible Spoilers)

[Kasey]

Possibly the reason that there is a comparison between Ross and Rachel of Friends and L/P is that Ross was a PhD while Rachel was a rich girl turned waitress turned fashion person.  They came from different backgrounds as does Leonard and Penny.  In the end, their love won out as I see L/P's love winning (at the moment). 

 

As far as Leonard's return from sea, I'm not entirely hopeful that it will involve Leonard in any way.  It seems like he's been relegated to a goalie who stands there and just throw the ball back to the other characters (namely Sheldon and Penny) and then watches while they dance around the playing field.

 

I guess maybe it's because he's my favorite character that I sometimes feel he gets thrown aside.  Not that I don't like Sheldon and Penny but...

[SRAM]

The friendship change between Sheldon and Penny, could be when Leonard comes back.  Think about it, both of them will want him, for their own reasons, and that could cause a lot of problems and conflict, with Leonard in the middle.  They writers could put a lot of laughs in Penny and Sheldon competing for Leonard's attention.

[Kasey]

The friendship change between Sheldon and Penny, could be when Leonard comes back.  Think about it, both of them will want him, for their own reasons, and that could cause a lot of problems and conflict, with Leonard in the middle.  They writers could put a lot of laughs in Penny and Sheldon competing for Leonard's attention.

 

I hadn't thought of it in that way.  Would that be a catalyst towards a moving into a living arrangement for Lenny?  Or would that only make Leonard living with Sheldon more set in stone?  Hmm...

[Nogravitasatall]

The friendship change between Sheldon and Penny, could be when Leonard comes back.  Think about it, both of them will want him, for their own reasons, and that could cause a lot of problems and conflict, with Leonard in the middle.  They writers could put a lot of laughs in Penny and Sheldon competing for Leonard's attention.

Sheldon in the metal bikini? Hehehe.

[rickfromillinois]

Possibly the reason that there is a comparison between Ross and Rachel of Friends and L/P is that Ross was a PhD while Rachel was a rich girl turned waitress turned fashion person.  They came from different backgrounds as does Leonard and Penny.  In the end, their love won out as I see L/P's love winning (at the moment). 

 

As far as Leonard's return from sea, I'm not entirely hopeful that it will involve Leonard in any way.  It seems like he's been relegated to a goalie who stands there and just throw the ball back to the other characters (namely Sheldon and Penny) and then watches while they dance around the playing field.

 

I guess maybe it's because he's my favorite character that I sometimes feel he gets thrown aside.  Not that I don't like Sheldon and Penny but...

If I remember correctly, Ross and Rachel came from pretty much the same background.  Wasn't Rachel friends with Ross's sister in High School?

[rickfromillinois]

The friendship change between Sheldon and Penny, could be when Leonard comes back.  Think about it, both of them will want him, for their own reasons, and that could cause a lot of problems and conflict, with Leonard in the middle.  They writers could put a lot of laughs in Penny and Sheldon competing for Leonard's attention.

Could it be that Sheldon is going to start expecting Penny to start doing the same things for him that Leonard used to do?   Take him to work, the comic book store, the moded train store? 

[Kasey]

If I remember correctly, Ross and Rachel came from pretty much the same background.  Wasn't Rachel friends with Ross's sister in High School?

 

It wasn't as vastly different as L/P but Ross was very academic and had a PhD whereas Rachel was not known to be exceptionally bright per se...

[eirwinrommel]

The friendship change between Sheldon and Penny, could be when Leonard comes back.  Think about it, both of them will want him, for their own reasons, and that could cause a lot of problems and conflict, with Leonard in the middle.  They writers could put a lot of laughs in Penny and Sheldon competing for Leonard's attention.

I can't see anything that Sheldon has, to compare with Penny. The only reason Leonard hasn't moved in with Penny, is because she's not ready. After spending 4 months of freedom, I'd expect that Leonard wouldn't be in any hurry to move back in with Sheldon (unless there's a big change in the room mate Agreement).

Edited July 15, 2013 by eirwinrommel

[Tensor]

I can't see anything that Sheldon has, to compare with Penny. The only reason Leonard hasn't moved in with Penny, is because she's not ready. After spending 4 months of freedom, I'd expect that Leonard wouldn't be in any hurry to move back in with Sheldon (unless there's a big change in the room mate Agreement).

You make a good point, after four months not having to put up with Sheldon's quirks, and the gains in his confidence over season six, does he really want to go back being, basically, Sheldon's servant? And the other question, has Penny, being without Leonard for four months, come to grips with her commitment demons? The four months away, may have allowed her to conquer enough of her demons to allow Leonard to move in.

[Guitars1964]

You make a good point, after four months not having to put up with Sheldon's quirks, and the gains in his confidence over season six, does he really want to go back being, basically, Sheldon's servant? And the other question, has Penny, being without Leonard for four months, come to grips with her commitment demons? The four months away, may have allowed her to conquer enough of her demons to allow Leonard to move in.

 

Interesting, but I really wonder if the writers are any more prepared to separate Leonard from Sheldon than they are to have Leonard and Penny get married or have Howard and Bernie have a child, etc.  Having Leonard move out would be a huge change for the basic premise of the show.

[Tensor]

Interesting, but I really wonder if the writers are any more prepared to separate Leonard from Sheldon than they are to have Leonard and Penny get married or have Howard and Bernie have a child, etc.  Having Leonard move out would be a huge change for the basic premise of the show.

True, and we know how quick the writers are to forget what happened the previous week.

[Nogravitasatall]

The apartments are the characters upon whom TPTB should enact their inner George R.R. Martin. That's unlikely, however.

[BangerMain]

It wasn't as vastly different as L/P but Ross was very academic and had a PhD whereas Rachel was not known to be exceptionally bright per se...

Rachel was a college grad who ended up an executive in the retail fashion industry. There was a bidding war between Ralph Lauren and Gucci while Louis Vuittion offered her a job in Paris. She was no Penny.

Edited July 15, 2013 by BangerMain

[BangerMain]

You make a good point, after four months not having to put up with Sheldon's quirks, and the gains in his confidence over season six, does he really want to go back being, basically, Sheldon's servant? And the other question, has Penny, being without Leonard for four months, come to grips with her commitment demons? The four months away, may have allowed her to conquer enough of her demons to allow Leonard to move in.

 

You make a good point, after four months not having to put up with Sheldon's quirks, and the gains in his confidence over season six, does he really want to go back being, basically, Sheldon's servant? And the other question, has Penny, being without Leonard for four months, come to grips with her commitment demons? The four months away, may have allowed her to conquer enough of her demons to allow Leonard to move in.

 

I'm convinced that this is what will happen. TPTB will take the baby step of starting to separate Leonard from Sheldon by having him move in with Penny. There will be no big change since Leonard will only be a few feet away but after living with Sheldon for 10 years its time for him to go. Season 6 saw them broach this possibility so it will not be such a big change in season 7.

 

We saw Penny's reaction the last time Leonard was away for the summer, this will kick start her once again.

[Nogravitasatall]

@bangermain, I'd love that, but i have reservations about their commitment to retool the show that much. In terms of story they have to move that way but it can't be by dipping the toe in, as if they do move in together it changes everything, going forward. If it fails they can't roll it back because its another breakup (yawn/cry). That said, I really want them to go for it. They are smart, they can make it work.

Edited July 15, 2013 by DogBoy (p.t.)

[BangerMain]

@bangermain, I'd love that, but i have reservations about their commitment to retool the show that much. In terms of story they have to move that way but it can't be by dipping the toe in, as if they do move in together it changes everything, going forward. If it fails they can't roll it back because its another breakup (yawn/cry). That said, I really want them to go for it. They are smart, they can make it work.

 

 

The cool thing about being the story "gods" is if they decide to make Penny and Leonard living together work, they wave their magic typing fingers and, poof, its a done deal.

 

I agree with you, in terms of story, they have to move this way. After six years, its getting weird that Leonard would accept being Sheldon's persecuted lackey rather than live on his own, with or without Penny. When Sheldon made the comment in the season finale about Leonard's job was to do his bidding it almost screamed a setup for change. I'm pretty sure Leonard is going to come back a more successful, acclaimed and confident man, not one willing to be a nursemaid to a badgering egotist who insults his worth by considering him a nameless "red shirt" on Star Trek. Sheldon has reason to be concerned about the good things happening to Leonard's career.

 

Sheldon will have to live for four months on his own without the parenting support of Leonard. Penny stated she thinks she is a poor choice to take care of Leonard's "goldfish" of a roommate and that's true. To some extent, Leonard holds Penny's life together as well, at least on an emotional level. She becomes a mess when he's not attentive to her daily, saying and implying how wonderful she is despite evidence to the contrary.

 

I think Leonard's absence will make Sheldon, finally, put on his big boy pants and Penny decide she needs her guy around full time.

Edited July 15, 2013 by BangerMain

[Kasey]

Rachel was a college grad who ended up an executive in the retail fashion industry. There was a bidding war between Ralph Lauren and Gucci while Louis Vuittion offered her a job in Paris. She was no Penny.

 

I don't recall Rachel being a college graduate.  She and Monica went to high school together.  And I never said she was Penny just that some similarities could be inferred...

[rickfromillinois]

The cool thing about being the story "gods" is if they decide to make Penny and Leonard living together work, they wave their magic typing fingers and, poof, its a done deal.

 

I agree with you, in terms of story, they have to move this way. After six years, its getting weird that Leonard would accept being Sheldon's persecuted lackey rather than live on his own, with or without Penny. When Sheldon made the comment in the season finale about Leonard's job was to do his bidding it almost screamed a setup for change. I'm pretty sure Leonard is going to come back a more successful, acclaimed and confident man, not one willing to be a nursemaid to a badgering egotist who insults his worth by considering him a nameless "red shirt" on Star Trek. Sheldon has reason to be concerned about the good things happening to Leonard's career.

 

Sheldon will have to live for four months on his own without the parenting support of Leonard. Penny stated she thinks she is a poor choice to take care of Leonard's "goldfish" of a roommate and that's true. To some extent, Leonard holds Penny's life together as well, at least on an emotional level. She becomes a mess when he's not attentive to her daily, saying and implying how wonderful she is despite evidence to the contrary.

 

I think Leonard's absence will make Sheldon, finally, put on his big boy pants and Penny decide she needs her guy around full time.

I agree that it seems logical that Penny and Leonard move in together, but at the same time there is just too much comedic situations with Leonard sharing the apartment with Sheldon.   I wonder what the possibility is that something will happen that forces Penny to move out of her apartment and she ends up living with Leonard and Sheldon.   Perhaps a fire in the apartment or a water pipe bursting.   I it were something about her no longer being able to afford to live there then is would make sense for Leonard to just move in with her, but if something happened to her apartment.....

[Guitars1964]

rickfromillinois - yeah, I like the Penny having to move in with Leonard and Sheldon scenario too.  And in the world of inexplicable TV things, if somehow the landlord hasn't repaired the elevator after all this time, then we could turn Penny's apartment damage into a long term slow fix too.  That would bring Leonard and Penny into a live-in arrangement but keeps Sheldon in the household too.  A new version of "Three's Company" -Ha!

 

Seems like a lot of comedic potential in the three of them "temporarily" living together.

 

And yet, somehow, I suspect we will see a lot of status quo in the relationship arrangements.

[SRAM]

rickfromillinois - yeah, I like the Penny having to move in with Leonard and Sheldon scenario too.  And in the world of inexplicable TV things, if somehow the landlord hasn't repaired the elevator after all this time, then we could turn Penny's apartment damage into a long term slow fix too.  That would bring Leonard and Penny into a live-in arrangement but keeps Sheldon in the household too.  A new version of "Three's Company" -Ha!

 

Seems like a lot of comedic potential in the three of them "temporarily" living together.

 

And yet, somehow, I suspect we will see a lot of status quo in the relationship arrangements.

Ha, ha, I could just see Amy upset with Sheldon, "Dam it Sheldon, if Penny can live here, why can't I?"

[ArmyGirl]

Ha, ha, I could just see Amy upset with Sheldon, "Dam it Sheldon, if Penny can live here, why can't I?"

Yep, I can see Amy saying this too. Also it might force Sheldon to stay at Amy some nights if Penny had to live with Leonard due to some unforeseen reason.

It's becoming less and less believable that Leonard would still be living with Sheldon and being his constant servant IMO, and I have to believe TPBT knows this.

Edited July 15, 2013 by ArmyGirl

[SRAM]

Having Penny move in with Leonard is the perfect beginning for Season 7. The reason (broken, money, etc.) could happen just before he returns and it could be as temporary as the writers want. The show benefits would be many:

1. Would be a significant event for Leonard's return, without really significantly moving the relationship along.

2. Does not have to permanent, that way TPTB can see if the humor is there and if they like the new character set up.

3. Would enhance the comedy from Penny/Sheldon interaction which is many times based on conflict.

4. Could be used to put Amy across the hall, or and temporary characters to the show.

5. Could allow Penny to leave the Cheesecake Factory and do other things.

These are just a few ideas and if the move was temporary, I can not see any negative outcomes because they can always go back.

[rickfromillinois]

It could be that Leonard is still living with Sheldon is because even though there are points of contention between them, they are still friends and over all he likes living where he is at.   Then there is the close proximity to Penny.   The simple answer to that is that he move in with Penny, but I don't believe that she is at a point where she actually wants to live with him, but if something happened to her apartment she might be forced into it. 

 

If by the "status quo" on the relationship arrangements you mean that everyone will stay with who they are attached to now, I agree, with the exception of Raj of course.  I personally like it the way it is now, although I would like to see some progress in their relationships.   I do not find change simply for change itself admirable and do find stability in a mutual advantageous relationship a good thing and something that everyone hopes for in their own lives.  

Edited July 15, 2013 by rickfromillinois

[eirwinrommel]

It could be that Leonard is still living with Sheldon is because even though there are points of contention between them, they are still friends and over all he likes living where he is at.   Then there is the close proximity to Penny.   The simple answer to that is that he move in with Penny, but I don't believe that she is at a point where she actually wants to live with him, but if something happened to her apartment she might be forced into it. 

 

If by the "status quo" on the relationship arrangements you mean that everyone will stay with who they are attached to now, I agree, with the exception of Raj of course.  I personally like it the way it is now, although I would like to see some progress in their relationships.   I do not find change simply for change itself admirable and do find stability in a mutual advantageous relationship a good thing and something that everyone hopes for in their own lives.  

It would be a lot easier to be friends with Sheldon if you don't have to put up with him on a daily basis. I'm convinced the only reason Leonard has been able to stand Sheldon this long is pre-conditioning, because Sheldon is so like Beverly.

Edited July 15, 2013 by eirwinrommel

[ArmyGirl]

It would be a lot easier to be friends with Sheldon if you don't have to put up with him on a daily basis. I'm convinced the only reason Leonard has been able to stand Sheldon this long is pre-conditioning, because Sheldon is so like Beverly.

But Leonard finally got away from Beverly and never looked back (other than her coming to visit). So how are we to understand that Leonard is okay with taking the same kind of abuse from Sheldon. I know so many love the so-called friendship, I am not one of them due to Sheldon always looking down on Leonard, Sheldon belittling Leonard, Sheldon having NO respect for Leonard, Sheldon constantly saying that Leonard only station in life is to do his biding. Friendship like relationship aren't suppose to be one-sided.

Edited July 15, 2013 by ArmyGirl