tmp Posted January 2, 2013 Share Posted January 2, 2013 Never thought of that, but that would be a way to move the L/P relationship along. Another couples relationship event could show Penny that her and Leonard's relationship has been on hold because of her, so she decides to do something. That was basically the whole plot of The Launch Acceleration last year...H/B getting married inspired A and L to push their partners forward. L's attempt didn't work so well but maybe after a year of maturing, P will be ready to move to the next level, whatever that may be for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Season six seemed to ignore the previous season and did a reset to the L/P relationship. I felt it went back to season three when she was unsure and then took a different path. I could be wrong though, because I never did understand that episode with her telling the girls she was unsure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) Season six seemed to ignore the previous season and did a reset to the L/P relationship. I felt it went back to season three when she was unsure and then took a different path. I could be wrong though, because I never did understand that episode with her telling the girls she was unsure. It was clumsy. She says she loves Leonard and is happy but then sort of persuades herself unconvincingly. Blame the writers for trying to indicate quickly that she was experiencing love and not infatuation and she didn't know how to process it. I skip over this and reference the look she gave Leonard in his lab - she looked at the hologram with wonder, then at Leonard with the same wonder and then with satisfaction and contentment. That hmmmm was really deep. Great little piece of performance (even with the glasses) that I think was pivotal. They then got busy, which was not really essential to the moment but totally in character and a call back to the girl from season 1. And I am so not reading anything about the Egg Salad Equivalancy until I've seen it. Edited January 3, 2013 by Nogravitasatall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangerMain Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Season six seemed to ignore the previous season and did a reset to the L/P relationship. I felt it went back to season three when she was unsure and then took a different path. I could be wrong though, because I never did understand that episode with her telling the girls she was unsure. As far as I am concern that is dead on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted January 3, 2013 Author Share Posted January 3, 2013 It was clumsy. She says she loves Leonard and is happy but then sort of persuades herself unconvincingly. Blame the writers for trying to indicate quickly that she was experiencing love and not infatuation and she didn't know how to process it. I skip over this and reference the look she gave Leonard in his lab - she looked at the hologram with wonder, then at Leonard with the same wonder and then with satisfaction and contentment. That hmmmm was really deep. Great little piece of performance (even with the glasses) that I think was pivotal. They then got busy, which was not really essential to the moment but totally in character and a call back to the girl from season 1. And I am so not reading anything about the Egg Salad Equivalancy until I've seen it. Nicely put, I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head here. The writers were simply trying to cram several episodes worth of explanation into a few scenes thus the "I love him but I'm not sure if i do" kinda feeling it has going on. But in reality it was explaining the path she's taken growing into this new more mature Penny hopefully. I still don't think we're at the end of that path but good things will hopefully be on the rise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 Nicely put, I think you've pretty much hit the nail on the head here. The writers were simply trying to cram several episodes worth of explanation into a few scenes thus the "I love him but I'm not sure if i do" kinda feeling it has going on. But in reality it was explaining the path she's taken growing into this new more mature Penny hopefully. I still don't think we're at the end of that path but good things will hopefully be on the rise I like the way you think. More L/P relationship movement during the rest of the season would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 OK, a funny scene popped into my head when I remembered Penny saying that in Nebraska they only shoot things to eat or when they don't leave their boyfriends alone. They could have a paintball episode and they bring the girls and Raj asks Alex to come. At the end of the game, everyone has hits, on them, from other teams, but Penny and Alex. Penny has no hits but Alex has mostly hits from her own team color. Raj is confused and asks what happen so everyone thinks Sheldon did it because he didn't want her there in the first place because he considered her an underling. Except Leonard who catches the evil look Penny gives Alex when Raj asks what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superlovelexi Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) Haha I can't wait to see Penny acting all jealous over Alex tonight. Jealous Penny is usually pretty funny, and I like to see Amy and Bernadette having Penny's back on this one, but I hope Alex doesn't take a turn for worst cause I like her so far and still wouldn't mind seeing her hook up with Raj, but hitting on a guy who already has a girlfriend or her trying to steal Leonard away from Penny is a quick and fast way to get on my I can't stand that B! enemy list lol and likely end up on Sheldon's list too since he wants Penny and Leonard together. Edited January 3, 2013 by Superlovelexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeSal90 Posted January 3, 2013 Share Posted January 3, 2013 (edited) Haha I can't wait to see Penny acting all jealous over Alex tonight. Jealous Penny is usually pretty funny, and I like to see Amy and Bernadette having Penny's back on this one, but I hope Alex doesn't take a turn for worst cause I like her so far and still wouldn't mind seeing her hook up with Raj, but hitting on a guy who already has a girlfriend or her trying to steal Leonard away from that Penny is a quick and fast way to get on my I can't stand that B! enemy list lol and likely end up on Sheldon's list too since he wants Penny and Leonard together. I can't wait either Superlovelexi, we just have to wait and see what happens in tonight's episode. OK, a funny scene popped into my head when I remembered Penny saying that in Nebraska they only shoot things to eat or when they don't leave their boyfriends alone. They could have a paintball episode and they bring the girls and Raj asks Alex to come. At the end of the game, everyone has hits, on them, from other teams, but Penny and Alex. Penny has no hits but Alex has mostly hits from her own team color. Raj is confused and asks what happen so everyone thinks Sheldon did it because he didn't want her there in the first place because he considered her an underling. Except Leonard who catches the evil look Penny gives Alex when Raj asks what happened. I can totally see that as well SRAM, a typical 'the guys vs ladies' plot with paintball being the main game they play. Edited January 3, 2013 by JoeSal90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Molecule! Ha, Ha, Ha ,Ha. I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I so want to see a future episode with them in bed after sex with each others glasses on, and having to swap them back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Europa Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Well the Egg Salad was a fun episode. :D I loved everything about our couple in this one. I love that Leonard is flattered and happy to have a girl wanting him (which is totally normal!) even though he has zero intention of doing anything about it. Love that Penny is very distinctly jealous and didn't hesitate to just call him out on it (was kind of wondering if she would say anything or just simmer in anger). Love Leonard serenading her in the hall and her reaction. Love that she decided to DO something about her inferiority complex but at the same time, didn't try to force herself into trying to become interested in science ("how do you not kill yourself every day?" made me LOL). I assume that her reference to school indicates that she does intend to keep it up, but doesn't feel she has to become Science Girl to keep Leonard's interest. And of course the glasses - and Leonard's reaction - was hilarious. It looks like they are on very strong footing this season and I hope to see it continue along these lines. Edited January 4, 2013 by Europa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I loved that Penny's first reaction was jealousy, but it later turned into insecurity. It was cute that they were cuddling before the phone call... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I need to see this episode again, but were they cuddling or was he holding her? Because if they were cuddling, Penny wasn't holding him like she used to in their previous relationship when they cuddled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 I need to see this episode again, but were they cuddling or was he holding her? Because if they were cuddling, Penny wasn't holding him like she used to in their previous relationship when they cuddled.She's leaning on him, with her hear resting on his shoulder and he has his arm around her with his hand rubbing her arm. I would consider that cuddling, but I could see where someone else may not think it fits the description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superlovelexi Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Interesting Leonard and penny interaction tonight's episode. My favorite part was when Leonard showed up with his Cello and sang to Penny that was really cute and something i've always wanted to see one of guys do for their ladies again sing to them. Howard did it first for Bernadette now Leonard ....(Sheldon that means your up next kid ) but yeah i like that part and I like ending when Penny put on glasses and Leonard got turned on. It was nice to see Penny actually trying to make Leonard happy by looking up science courses and trying to seem smarter instead of just staying mad at him, breaking up with him or beating Alex up like she did that actress B that moved in upstairs it shows she is maturing. YEAH PENNY!! Leonard definitely loves Penny and I think he is just glad to know other girls find him attractive because he feels so short and nerdy all time, its nice for him to know that Penny gets insecure about the relationship just like he does but they do need to work on being more honest and open with each other about their feelings in future. Leonard shouldn't feel so insecure now that he knows Penny loves him and that she gets jealous over him. And Penny shouldn't let the fact that she isn't a science nerd make her feel inferior or insecure either because she isn't that dumb, and she teaches him thinks too like how she told him about the Black Eye Peas. I think it be cute to see an episode where Penny plays" the teacher" again like when she was teaching Howard about fishing, only this time she teaches Leonard how to do something that he doesn't understand. I think it would help make her feel smart, and if it was something Leonard actually got better at by the end it would make him feel good that she was willign to help show him the way. Oh and as for Alex, I still like her okay, I mean I don't think she is a bad person or anything, but she is teetering on the edge with me and i could go either way on her. I mean its okay for her to like Leonard especially if it makes him feel less insecure and its obvious she serves a purpose in the plot for this seaso to provide comedic drama for the L/P relationship, but if she is going to stick around they really should make her more interesting, funny (like they did with Bernadette and Amy) and give us some more background about her so I can decide whether or not she's worth all trouble she's likely to cause lol. I mean I'd rather her get with Raj or see her become frenemies with Amy/Bernadette but if she tries to go toe to toe with Sheldon again I hope Sheldon DESTROYS her lol See I don't care if people know it but truth is I'm a Sheldon girl 4ever and even though I know he can sometimes be a total ass he makes me laugh more than any one else on this show so if anyone messes with him then they must SUFFER lol... I remember when Priya tried to take Sheldon on with the roommate agreement and I just knew Sheldon would find away to take that Bitch down! Same way with Leslie when she was dating Leonard, Sheldon found away to annoy her enough to get her to break up with Leonard. So if Alex keeps coming after Leonard and if she tries to get Sheldon in more trouble with university or Leonard in trouble with Penny than I want Sheldon and Amy to break out the monkeys and send Alex packing because no one messes with MY SHIPS!!! lol But, if Alex ends up giving up on her infatuation with Leonard and refocuses her attention on Raj, Stuart or someone else outside of group than that is fine and she can stay awhile. Edited January 4, 2013 by Superlovelexi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 She's leaning on him, with her hear resting on his shoulder and he has his arm around her with his hand rubbing her arm. I would consider that cuddling, but I could see where someone else may not think it fits the description. One of the other members in the 6.12 topic, I think got it right, Kaley in that scene was probably in an uncomfortable physical position during that scene and didn't know what to do with her arms, but Johnny was holding her very affectionately during that scene. The director should have caught that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmp Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Did you notice in last night's episode that Leonard said he loves Penny? Correct me if I'm wrong but he hasn't said it since it was the cause of their first break-up. He didn't say it to her, but I still think it's meaningful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted January 4, 2013 Share Posted January 4, 2013 Yeah, I noticed that too. Penny and Leonard do seem more comfortable with each other now. When he pulled her to his room, in the end, she followed him there like he follows her when she pulls him. Another thing I noticed is when he was talking to her he put his hand on her arm/shoulder and when he put his arm around her he sort of rubbed her arm. I was watching a rerun later that night on TBS, the episode where Penny shoots Sheldon's spot with a paintball, and at the end where Leonard is explaining to Sheldon about the Chinese food switch, Penny has her hands on Leonard's back and is even rubbing his back at one point, while he talks. I doubt some of that touching/rubbing is part of the script, I think it is a Kaley/Johnny thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vasu Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 (edited) Well , I guess now all the relationship issues with L\P are solved ...both of them love each other...they confessed their insecurities to each other...and finally finally it looks like they are capable of having a mature conversation. So it looks next issues will be more practical like most of you guys have pointed out -- job , money ,education, living arrangements etc .... I would like to see them working on these issues together and helping each other out without any big arguments or drama and I hope the writers do make up for the lack of intimacy in the first half of this season by giving us some cute scenes in the second half..... The role reversal in the latest episode was good to see... Penny being insecure...Leonard having a care-free episode...... Leonard dragging Penny to the bedroom...and finally Molecules Edited January 5, 2013 by vasu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eirwinrommel Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Well , I guess now all the relationship issues with L\P are solved ...both of them love each other...they confessed their insecurities to each other...and finally finally it looks like they are capable of having a mature conversation. So it looks next issues will be more practical like most of you guys have pointed out -- job , money ,education, living arrangements etc .... I would like to see them working on these issues together and helping each other out without any big arguments or drama and I hope the writers do make up for the lack of intimacy in the first half of this season by giving us some cute scenes in the second half..... The role reversal in the latest episode was good to see... Penny being insecure...Leonard having a care-free episode...... Leonard dragging Penny to the bedroom...and finally Molecules I'd be nice, but I don't think 'all the relationship issues' are solved. If for no other reasons than it would be boring, and they'd have nothing to write about. There's always something coming up in a dynamic relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjc45 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 @sram-yes penny was hot in the glasses. ok i am now all in on a valentines show would like leonard to set it up,in #3 one of the professor could not go so he went. to see how penny was so vulnerabe that she was going to lose leonard to alex as she said she is pretty, smart.,leonard you are the only one for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 One of the other members in the 6.12 topic, I think got it right, Kaley in that scene was probably in an uncomfortable physical position during that scene and didn't know what to do with her arms, but Johnny was holding her very affectionately during that scene. The director should have caught that. I think I figured out why the director didn't catch it. He saw it, but didn't want to change it because this way it gives all the Shenny's a sliver of hope. After all, it was awkward because Penny wasn't "comfortable" with Leonard's arm around her, because obviously she wanted to be with Sheldon, not Leonard. And she only invited Leonard into her apartment because she couldn't stand that godawful cello playing, and it was the only way to stop it. As for the last scene, Penny's just practicing her hot and smart look on Leonard, so she has perfected the look when she goes for the more difficult to fool Sheldon. See how devious the director and writers have become? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razberrypie Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 I think the episode when they get married (if they ever do that is) is going to be the point at which I go back to season 1 and marvel in awe at how far they've come. I honestly think that Penny made a good choice :D, I don't care if people bash Leonard, the world needs more people like him to replace the plauge of douchebags out there. The fact that Penny gave Leonard a chance and discovered how much better he was those other 'hot guys' makes me hope that it has somehow inspired some people who watch the show to think twice about someone despite their outside appearance. Especially those girls who still refuse to date anyone other than kind of guys that Penny used to date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted January 6, 2013 Share Posted January 6, 2013 I think I figured out why the director didn't catch it. He saw it, but didn't want to change it because this way it gives all the Shenny's a sliver of hope. After all, it was awkward because Penny wasn't "comfortable" with Leonard's arm around her, because obviously she wanted to be with Sheldon, not Leonard. And she only invited Leonard into her apartment because she couldn't stand that godawful cello playing, and it was the only way to stop it. As for the last scene, Penny's just practicing her hot and smart look on Leonard, so she has perfected the look when she goes for the more difficult to fool Sheldon. See how devious the director and writers have become? It's a high tech stealth thing. You track it by the absence of signal. Like a Collins class submarine, when it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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