C-Trayne Posted November 29, 2012 Author Share Posted November 29, 2012 Yea she really is just an eye candy unknown right now. Plus with what's been seen in the spoiler thread its hard to predict just how she's going to tie into the L/P relationship in this upcoming taping. Gahh Tuesday won't come fast enough!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpere Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I wouldn't say he deserves better than her. Sure penny can be divaish at times but I think what most of the new season has been about her changing and evolving into a better person and a better girlfriend. We've seen her take interest in his work, defend him from Alex, say ILY, and begin to realize just how much she cares for him. I think this season is foreshadowing great things for them Don't forget to add going to back to school to that list. When Penny did not break-up with Leonard after the "Will you marry me?" during sex, the writers pretty much telegraphed there will be no more break-ups, just bumps in the road as a couple. I believe, as you do, that we will see a proposal at the end of this season and quite possibly, from Penny. Let's not go that far The way Leonard obsesses overy Penny I think he'll be the first one to propose, again. I agree with Trayne that a big thing this season would be to have Leonard and Penny move in together. Maybe a proposal next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Last night episode was great but they missed a great opportunity to have an enraged Leonard, because of Penny's nose, come into Sheldon's office and tell him that this was going to end or else. Then later they could have had Leonard and Penny sitting together and her asking and him telling what Sheldon specific threat he made that scared Sheldon into ending his craziness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostrich Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Last night episode was great but they missed a great opportunity to have an enraged Leonard, because of Penny's nose, come into Sheldon's office and tell him that this was going to end or else. I think this could have been quite funny especially if it happened the moment right after Howard and Sheldon called a truce. They added the dry cleaners scene after the taping, probably because they came up short on total time. It was amusing, but I'd have preferred Leonard's reaction either in the office or at the Cheesecake Factory or the Leonard/Penny scene you described. With the Sheldon at the drycleaners, the "22 min" episode still clocks in under 20 min. More than enough time to add a little more Leonard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 That would have been a really great scene actually! Would have been nice to see just a little bit of L/P in the episode. I mean I get they shouldn't be in every episode but him standing up for her would have been cute and I think a stronger way of ending than argument than the lame one we got Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Yeah, and it would have made perfect sense. Leonard and Penny are now closer and Sheldon does things that even drive Leonard up the wall sometimes. Leonard knows about all the crap Sheldon started with the parking spot and wasn't happy with it. Now Penny gets her nose broken because of all this craziness, so he, or anyone else, would be pissed it happened to their significant other. I can't believe that the writers didn't see that if they hurt Penny, Leonard would not be impacted. It's like when they get the main story done they don't have any thinking left to do a good ending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPK Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 This kind of thing always happens in sitcoms. It is one of the infuriating things about how sitcom writers like to go about things once they've done a big reveal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) Yea I'm not really even surprised any more when they totally blow off important story lines or in this case could of been story lines.... I mean Leonard and penny didn't even have a scene together in this episode... would have at least been to see him react to her broken nose, which again poses the question why do it? I know if I were lucky enough to be in a relationship with a woman like penny and something my roommate was doing caused her to end up with a broken nose I would be rip shit. And we're just supposed to accept that what? Leonard apparently doesn't care? Come on Edited November 30, 2012 by C-Trayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblyn-ina-trenchcoat Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Yea I'm not really even surprised any more when they totally blow off important story lines or in this case could of been story lines.... I mean Leonard and penny didn't even have a scene together in this episode... would have at least been to see him react to her broken nose, which again poses the question why do it? I know if I were lucky enough to be in a relationship with a woman like penny and something my roommate was doing caused her to end up with a broken nose I would be rip shit. And we're just supposed to accept that what? Leonard apparently doesn't care? Come on yes yes 1000 times yes!!!!!!!! infuriating ain't it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpere Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Yea I'm not really even surprised any more when they totally blow off important story lines or in this case could of been story lines.... I mean Leonard and penny didn't even have a scene together in this episode... would have at least been to see him react to her broken nose, which again poses the question why do it? I know if I were lucky enough to be in a relationship with a woman like penny and something my roommate was doing caused her to end up with a broken nose I would be rip shit. And we're just supposed to accept that what? Leonard apparently doesn't care? Come on Thing is we all know the Leonoard character does care, but the writers just didn't write it in. Maybe it'll be referenced in a future episode during some other argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 Do we tho? I mean yes we EXPECT him to care but by them neglecting to put it in what are they saying? Sure there are time constraints, and we can't put everything in everyone wants to see but it would of been nice to see a little affection from bf to gf... especially after the monumental last episode Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The writers seem to make the L/P relationship a little bit forced but don't do that with the other relationships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 I wouldn't call it forced per say I just feel like every time something big happens or something big should have happened they just kind of neglect it. Going back to season 3 even we see it happen kind of regularly. Like I said earlier there is a time constraint... a big one to be honest but I really don't think it would be too hard to just shed a little light on certain topics. One of the biggest ones I can think of was Leonard's break up with priya. We never even see it officially end, all we get is Leonard saying "I'm single" in the next episode. I really wanted to see penny's reaction to it yet its never mentioned again... um why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I watched this episode again and now I am really disappointed that Leonard didn't deck Sheldon over him causing Penny to be hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjc45 Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 they were going out, we did not see it penny got hit in the nose,just befoe it she did not want any more coffee from bernadette.penny and leonard was going to lecture. would like to see leonard do some thing about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 I feel like more violence is a little excessive in this scenario. It was an accident that penny got hurt that stemmed from a line of idiocys and coincidences that started with Sheldon vs Howard. I think that it should have been Leonard instead of raj bringing Howard to talk to Sheldon and he could have simply brought up the fact she got injured as a way to end the problem. They could have ended it the same way with Howard apologizing and Sheldon "being the bigger man" but just added in the fact that penny getting hurt upset Leonard. Would have gotten the point across and shown us a little L/P love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I don't really want Leonard hitting Sheldon, I was just having a little fun with it. In reality, I don't like using somebody getting hurt for laughs. I just thought it would have been nice if Leonard told Sheldon and Howard they were going to end it because they had gone to far and now Penny is hurt. It would have gave us a little L/P feel good stuff, with him concerned about her, so we wouldn't have had to go cold turkey from 6.08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Yea that's kinda what i figured lol but i agree they could have easily ended it in a similar way with leonard instead of raj and had it have the desired effect. ah well... what're ya gonna do. On a different note i thought about something while grocery shopping today. Season 5 episode 23... the scene where Leonard shows up at Penny's apartment with the gas thing that makes there voice change was absolutely brilliant. It showed them together as a real couple enjoying just having fun together. Why can't we see more of that? Preferably a little longer and not always have it lead to sex but the ideas the same. why cant we see more of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I would really like to see that but I am afraid that would be too normal for this show. The gas scene was really funny, especially when Leonard said "COOKIES" about Penny's tatoo. However, if we don't have conflict between them, we probably won't see a lot of them together, just more crazy Sheldon and Amy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 That is basically the way it feels now isn't it? I'm hoping that they are using the first half of this season to try and "patch up" the relationship between these two characters so that they can move forward in the future. Since while it is true that the majority of their interaction in season 6 has been conflict, most of it has been for some underlying cause. All relationships have problems and some couples take longer to get passed that than others. The more i think about it the more i can kind of see where the writers are coming from. I am hoping anyways that with the turn of the new year and the ILY from penny we will be able to see a change of pace between the two. Like all of the fights they are having now will later turn out to bring them closer together and if all goes well we will get to see that closeness That being said if nothing changes and the whole premise of the relationship becomes constant conflict well lets just say some one is going to be receiving a strongly worded letter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 It would be nice though if the writers would have them hold hands and cuddle a little when they are in scenes together, in the background, just to give us L/P fans a little something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostrich Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I doubt that there will be the similar level of conflict between these two in the second half of the season. They've been addressing all the past dysfunction in their relationship leading up to the ILY. Penny completed the task set for her in the premiere (Just say it!) and that was exactly how it happened. Hopefully, a few happy scenes between P/L will be coming soon. I expect the second half of the season to have more to do with Sheldon facing up to the job set for him by the premiere: showing Amy a little physical affection as part of a romantic relationship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Yeah, I have to sadly admit you are probably right. I am hoping though, we'll get something about her job and/or school that will give us a couple L/P storylines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Trayne Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 Valid point... it does seem that a big part of season 6 was Penny's ILY to Leoanrd for obvious reasons. I make the point though because it was like every episode up to episode 8 (except for #7) was based around the L/P arc. So once they hit their target with that weapon they switch guns for a bit and move on to shamy... So yes i agree that a big part of the second half of this season will address Sheldon's side of the story and how he needs to change to please Amy, which isn't a bad thing i just hope they don't go over board with it. However, at some point we will need to see the ILY readdressed or challenged in order to keep the L/P moving forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostrich Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Definitely. I think the focus may shift more towards Sheldon but I hope they still move L/P forward in the background as the relationship becomes more stable. It would be very strange if this couple was completely relegated like in the back half of S5 after the strong focus on them so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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