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Even if they weren't sworn to secrecy, it's not cool to talk to your friend's BF about how she may be feeling about him. That's a sure fire way to find yourself cut from girl's night. The best Bernadette could do to help would have been to hint something about it to Howard. The thing with the money is incidental now, she doesn't need more evidence that he is a sweetheart. She needs reassurance that Leonard isn't going to break her heart.

Tomorrow night I think Leonard will find out that Penny has insecurities about their relationship and at the moment they center around Alex. I said this in the spoiler thread, but I'll say it here too. I think the whole purpose of the Alex character was to reveal a penny's insecurities to the audience in 6.03 and now to Leonard in 6.12. Leonard will tell her that's she crazy, he has only ever wanted her. Double ILY, maybe.

I like your idea. A double ILY would be nice. Sort of the kind of follow up fans wanted in 6.08.

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True but if they do decide to use the double ILY i hope its in not actually during an argument again.  If they have to fight during the episode fine, but have them make up and use it at the end of the episode, maybe as they're lying in bed together or something.  

 

And your right, a proper double ILY i think has been wanted by fans for a long, long time haha

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Well tonight's taping will probably set the tone for the rest of the season concerning their relationship because it will give us an idea what the writers see the ILY meaning and what they think the impact to the relationship is. I hope we get mutual ILY's because that will tell us the writers will probably keep it a solid relationship from now on and us fans will not have to be disappointed with a possible breakup in the future.

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Very true. Even without the 2xILY I'd be happy if they just decide to acknowledge it. Communication is one of the main problems in their relationship. To be fair to Leonard, it's more Penny's problem. Whatever goes on with Alex, I just hope Penny doesn't fly into a blind rage. It wouldn't take much seeing her feelings are close to the surface, and she wants to protect herself for getting hurt. I hope it doesn't go that way. Would love to see Leonard's expression when/if he realizes Penny is jealous. Whaaaat?

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Yeah, Leonard made a big confession on why he is insecure/jealous and said it was his problem in 6.08. Penny started to let her feelings out but froze after the ILY. It would really be nice if she does confess some of her feelings tonight to Leonard and move her character development up a notch.

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Yea communication between these two has been a long standing problem within the relationship.  I think that the ILY episode addressed this greatly because as Sraam said we see Leonard actually admit his problems to her.  He tells her straight up that he is insecure about what is going on and rightly so considering how often Penny is hit on by other guys.  Not only that but its because of his confusion about her feelings towards him since she is afraid of commitment that leads a big part of these insecurities.

 

Also as the audience we can see Penny's fears of being hurt in a way that Leonard can't.  So hopefully he will actually be able to see this in the upcoming episode when Alex makes her return and they will be able to work through these issues hopefully peacefully and together.

 

Its about time for Penny to accept what a good guy her bf is and to learn that he isn't going to hurt her.

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An ILY with a response, in kind, from the other party. We want them to say it to each other when they are calm and not in some emotional conflict. So they are saying it freely and knowing exactly what they are saying before they say it, not just letting it come out during stress.

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An ILY with a response, in kind, from the other party. We want them to say it to each other when they are calm and not in some emotional conflict. So they are saying it freely and knowing exactly what they are saying before they say it, not just letting it come out during stress.

 

This^^ :D 

 

It's so hard to think about what the taping tonight is giong to consist of.  It so easy to say "oh it could be this," or "wouldn't it be cool if this happened" but in reality the writers really have the ability to go any which way with it.

 

I hope they do decide to create some kind of minor conflict betweenn Penny and Alex so Leonard can once and for all see that Penny is afraid of getting hurt and/or losing him.  It would be nice to see her as the vulnerable one for a change.  It seems like everytime they are in conflict its always Leonard who is trying to avoid being hurt or losing Penny.  Lets see her walk a mile in his shoes for once!

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Even it comes at the end of the possible fight tonight, I would be satisfied. I do like to speculate, so I'm gonna try for some more. We know sheldon gets in trouble with HR tonight, and it's probably to do with Alex. I'm gonna guess that Penny asks Sheldon to find out if Alex is interested in Leonard. Leonard finds out and is angry that Penny could even possibly suspect that anything could or would ever go on between him and Alex. Don't ask me how the egg salad comes into it! Sheldon might use it as a tortured metaphor like the transformers :) I've also been wondering if Sheldon or Amy might let the cat out of the bag about Penny almost dumping him in 6.02 at some point this season. If it happens before the relationship is stable, it could be bad. Fortunately, they hardly ever reference action in past episodes so it's not likely to happen.

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Even it comes at the end of the possible fight tonight, I would be satisfied. I do like to speculate, so I'm gonna try for some more. We know sheldon gets in trouble with HR tonight, and it's probably to do with Alex. I'm gonna guess that Penny asks Sheldon to find out if Alex is interested in Leonard. Leonard finds out and is angry that Penny could even possibly suspect that anything could or would ever go on between him and Alex. Don't ask me how the egg salad comes into it! Sheldon might use it as a tortured metaphor like the transformers :)

I've also been wondering if Sheldon or Amy might let the cat out of the bag about Penny almost dumping him in 6.02 at some point this season. If it happens before the relationship is stable, it could be bad. Fortunately, they hardly ever reference action in past episodes so it's not likely to happen.

Wow, if Leonard found out Penny wanted to break up with him before, that could undo everything that has happen since then, even the ILY. I sure hope the writers don't go there.

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Wow, if Leonard found out Penny wanted to break up with him before, that could undo everything that has happen since then, even the ILY. I sure hope the writers don't go there.

 

IDK, after all, it was after she decided NOT to break up with him that she put more effort into the relationship (going to and getting more interested in his work, getting worked up over Alex, going back to school).  It's quite explainable, by Penny, that she realized the problem was her not putting enough into the relationship and now that she has put more effort into it, she is more invested in the relationship than ever, to the point where she actually said ILY, even if it scared her afterward.  

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It'll probably never happen, but it plays on Leonard's biggest insecurity: Penny will never love him like he does her. SRAM just nailed it. The relationship is so volatile that it only takes a tiny thing for it to blow up. Just gotta hope Chuck never gets up on the wrong side of the bed again like he did in S3.

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I think thats the way the relationship USED to be in all honesty.  We've have seen them trying to fix that through the end of season 5 and now through season 6.  Leonard's proposal is an excellent example... normally something like that would have scared her shitless and sent her commitment bells a ringing and she would have ran (aka: breakup).  However, they were able to not only work through it but also battle through several other arguments through S6... (going to school, guys hitting on her, etc) ANDDDD one of those arguments lead to the first ILY from penny. 

 

So truth be told i don't worry to much about a little thing setting them off, i think they are finally getting to a place where they can both be comfortable with who the other is and stop trying to change each other.  (Stage 3 for those who understand the psychology theory of relationships).

 

Heres hoping for good things tonight!

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Well , they are not going to break-up L\P again... That's for sure :D ... because if they do , I don't think there is a way without making anyone of them looking like an absolute moron...if penny breaks-up with leonard (for toying with his heart by saying ILY and breaking-up) and if Leonard breaks-up with Penny (for just increasing her fear of ILY , and releasing her after she completely becomes his)

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I haven't really thought about it like that but thats an excellent point.  If they went that road it would have to be if one of hte characters were like leaving hte show or something.  Theres no way they could do it peacefully in any way, shape, or form.  Like you said with the ILY out there if Penny breaks up with him she'd suddenly become "queen bitch" on the show and end up the most hated character.  While the same could likely be said for Leonard, since he's been waiting for so long to hear that.  I don't foresee any real break up in the future for this couple, only a few speed bumps :)

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Watching "The Lunar Excitation." I've always loved this episode, despite Penny shutting the door in his face.  I love how they've "ruined" each other.  Leonard delivers the line like he's just mirroring what Penny said, but it's true. 

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First impressions. Penny actually saying the words, 'yes I am insecure', to Leonard is massive itself. And then trying to rid herself of the fear Leonard will leave her for a smarter woman by continuing to improve her education? Huge character growth. I could see the old Penny just using sex to sure up the relationship. Instead, she admits her fears in two separate scenes and then thinks of a way to help herself move beyond them. Since science isn't her thing, I hope she takes on a few social studies classes in spring semester.

 

 

While no 2xILY occurred, I'm fine with the writers saving that for something special later this season. From this episode, it appears that all the hard work Leonard and Penny have been doing this season has paid off. I think they are in a better place right now in their relationship than ever before. Something else I noticed, in 6.02 Leonard says he's not interested in bar crawling because he 'has penny' now he's not interested in Alex because he 'loves Penny'. Nice. While I'm sure he loved her back then too, it's great that his insecurities are being relieved as well and he's expressing that.

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Excellently put... I'm not really sure what else I can add.

I think it looks great in the report can't wait to see it on show.

The emotions we finally see from penny is great, it really was like the first time we see her reopen up like which was great

The only thing that I think was missing is Leonard actually telling alex he's not interested, would have just sealed the deal.

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