Ship Zone Leonard And Penny Shippers Thread (Possible Spoilers)

[Nogravitasatall]

@phanta, I think it's because they have moved to a different level of intimacy. Beyond sex. ... Though that's still there, we just don't need to see it.

Eta. (And by dialling that down, they make room for others to go to that space where anticipation lives)

Edited May 21, 2013 by Nogravitasatall

[SRAM]

Remember, he's not moved in until he's moved his bat signal.

That is so true.

I would like to see Penny have a little stack of his and hers comic books, though.

[Tensor]

I would like to see Penny have a little stack of his and hers comic books, though.

I like the comic book thing.

[BangerMain]

@phanta, I think it's because they have moved to a different level of intimacy. Beyond sex. ... Though that's still there, we just don't need to see it.

Eta. (And by dialling that down, they make room for others to go to that space where anticipation lives)

 

So true.

 

It's almost as if TPTB heard about some of the detractors of L/P who claimed they were only about sex and no deep conversations. This season has been about plenty of meaningful conversation (Penny, now seems to talk non-stop at the dinner table about everything) and only one scene in the bed (6.06) where Penny was sound asleep. They have indicated that they still have plenty of sex but there is no need to place that as the defining element of their now almost complete coupling.

 

There are only a few topics that are left for them to discuss, such as, Penny's fear of the long term effects on their relationship of marriage or just why Leonard loves her so much. But you got to leave something for season 7.

[eirwinrommel]

@phanta, I think it's because they have moved to a different level of intimacy. Beyond sex. ... Though that's still there, we just don't need to see it.

Eta. (And by dialling that down, they make room for others to go to that space where anticipation lives)

Isn't the place 'beyond sex' called marriage?

[Tensor]

Isn't the place 'beyond sex' called marriage?

Calling up the spirits of TBBT writers and going for the laugh:

No, marriage is the end of sex.

[eirwinrommel]

So Amy is (as good or bad as) married to Sheldon?

[Nogravitasatall]

I hold high expectations that the Hofstadter's will have what I euphemistically refer to as a "very happy marriage". They are well into the routine and have had their trial period.

As Bangermain says the story can now be more about consolidation and depth... and fewer sex jokes. ( but still some, cos it is funny).

[Tensor]

So Amy is (as good or bad as) married to Sheldon?

Nah, you gotta start having sex before you get to the end of having sex.

[hamerman55]

I think the next season is going to be a test of the writers' cleverness. They've written themselves into a corner with respect to Leonard and Penny. Neither can break up the relationship now without the character doing something entirely uncharacteristic and unsympathetic. CAN Leonard do something stupid enough to have Penny be justified in breaking up with him? Can Penny?

 

Rather, I hope the writers decide to have fun with them as a couple. The scene where Leonard serenades Penny with his cello comes to mind. It was clever, endearing and really funny. They did this with Bernadette and Howard, where there were issues that got resolved. Since Howard and Bernadette were much similar in background and profession, there was less to resolve. As has been mentioned by many, there are the parents to reveal, discussions of why Penny has commitment issues, their mutual possessiveness of each other, and so on. The 7th season could be a lot of fun, as Leonard and Penny are now permanently together, but have to dance with the proposal, Raj can talk to girls, and Sheldon and Amy need to play a lot of D&D. I'm really looking forward to it, if the writers' go cleaver, new and funny, rather than tread the tired, worn sitcom conventions of the schlub with the hot wife.

Edited May 22, 2013 by hamerman55

[SRAM]

Next season, I think the writers should start playing with things to make it possible for them to move in together or at least be with each other every night.  Next season would be great for moving both their careers along too.  There could be a lot of material there, if they give Penny's acting career a boost.  Leonard would have to deal with her being around handsome sexy actors, and Penny would have to fend off the advances of those same actors and make sure her boyfriend knows he is the only one.  They could also give Leonard a little fame for working on Dr Hawking's experiment.  If they could bring in a couple of their family members into the picture too, they should have no trouble keeping Penny and Leonard stories the whole season, without having to address an engagement.

[eirwinrommel]

Nah, you gotta start having sex before you get to the end of having sex.

Maybe they've just cut out the middleman, since the end result is the same, and no danger of more Sheldons running around.

[ArmyGirl]

I have the feeling that Leonard and Penny will become frozen in place or a glacier with minimum movement.  Our OTP seems to be the writers least favorite couple in my opinion and I don't see much in the way of storylines. 

 

First the writers almost destroyed them after season 3 breakup, then two years of no real action, and now they are a couple they basically have no where to go.  I don't see the writers letting them move in together, no engagement  anytime some, and definitely no marriage. So what is there left for Lenny? 

 

Also the writers won't let neither Leonard nor Penny have any kind of real professional growth.  All I see one the horizon for Leonard and Penny to an extent is hand holding Sheldon and Amy through whatever the writers have plan for them.  For me that will be under cutting Lenny, Leonard, and Penny storyline wise.

 

btw the guy that everyone talks about caring for the characters already said that he feels that Lenny has mostly been taking care of.  I have been thinking about what they plan for Leonard, Penny and Lenny and can't come up with anything that will benefit them (characters) or our couple.

Edited May 22, 2013 by ArmyGirl

[ArmyGirl]

Next season, I think the writers should start playing with things to make it possible for them to move in together or at least be with each other every night.  Next season would be great for moving both their careers along too.  There could be a lot of material there, if they give Penny's acting career a boost.  Leonard would have to deal with her being around handsome sexy actors, and Penny would have to fend off the advances of those same actors and make sure her boyfriend knows he is the only one.  They could also give Leonard a little fame for working on Dr Hawking's experiment.  If they could bring in a couple of their family members into the picture too, they should have no trouble keeping Penny and Leonard stories the whole season, without having to address an engagement.

 

 

Please no more insecure or jealous Leonard and no more men hitting on Penny, the writers have been there and done. I do wish Leonard could have more professional growth in his field, while Penny get some acting spots on a couple of tv shows. 

 

I like the idea of bring in some of their family members too.

Edited May 22, 2013 by ArmyGirl

[Nogravitasatall]

All the family members will be damaged in some hilarious way. Except Wyatt.

I predict.

and I have to see the future as less bleak, else I'd give up. Can't take a third beating. And "The Walking Dead" will back, and that's horror enough.

and is America really that much in love with Sheldon that they can walk over or away from Leonard and Penny?

Edited May 22, 2013 by Nogravitasatall

[hamerman55]

Remember, he's not moved in until he's moved his bat signal.

It would be an interesting twist if Penny accidentally stealth moved Leonard in. Girls are really into the smell of their guy's clothes, and Penny could sneak over and swipe Leonard's bedding or some his clothes to help with missing him. Practically, she could move the contents of his room into her place, and leave the stuff in the rest of the apartment alone. Of course the Batsignal would be last.

[hamerman55]

I have the feeling that Leonard and Penny will become frozen in place or a glacier with minimum movement.  Our OTP seems to be the writers least favorite couple in my opinion and I don't see much in the way of storylines. 

 

First the writers almost destroyed them after season 3 breakup, then two years of no real action, and now they are a couple they basically have no where to go.  I don't see the writers letting them move in together, no engagement  anytime some, and definitely no marriage. So what is there left for Lenny? 

 

Also the writers won't let neither Leonard nor Penny have any kind of real professional growth.  All I see one the horizon for Leonard and Penny to an extent is hand holding Sheldon and Amy through whatever the writers have plan for them.  For me that will be under cutting Lenny, Leonard, and Penny storyline wise.

 

btw the guy that everyone talks about caring for the characters already said that he feels that Lenny has mostly been taking care of.  I have been thinking about what they plan for Leonard, Penny and Lenny and can't come up with anything that will benefit them (characters) or our couple.

It does seem to be that Sheldon, and by extension, Amy, are the writers' pets. The only time there has been a crack in Sheldon's facade was in the Bakersfield episode. An interesting contrast as there, Sheldon acknowledged Leonard as Captain, while in the finale, Leonard is an un-named red shirted crewman.

[menamena]

btw the guy that everyone talks about caring for the characters already said that he feels that Lenny has mostly been taking care of.  I have been thinking about what they plan for Leonard, Penny and Lenny and can't come up with anything that will benefit them (characters) or our couple.

 

Do you have any evidence of that? I think his quote that the couple were at a really good place, and that's why Leonard initially hesitates to go for the voyage at the end.

[ArmyGirl]

Do you have any evidence of that? I think his quote that the couple were at a really good place, and that's why Leonard initially hesitates to go for the voyage at the end.

 

 

He was aked about Lenny getting married and that is what I am talking about. I will try to find the article again and post the link.

[menamena]

It would be an interesting twist if Penny accidentally stealth moved Leonard in. Girls are really into the smell of their guy's clothes, and Penny could sneak over and swipe Leonard's bedding or some his clothes to help with missing him. Practically, she could move the contents of his room into her place, and leave the stuff in the rest of the apartment alone. Of course the Batsignal would be last.

 

Personally I think it would be really sweet if Lenny moved in without even realizing they moved in. You know Penny and/or Leonard realizing that most of his stuff is at Penny's apartment and he sleeps over at her bed with her every day. 

 

ETA: ArmyGirl - That would be much appreciated. 

Edited May 22, 2013 by menamena

[SRAM]

I can't believe they are just going to ignore Lenny in season 7, not after season 6 ratings and it being a strong Lenny season. We already know there is going to be a big event when Leonard comes back. Does anyone really think that when Leonard shows up at Penny's door she just going to say 'Hi, glad your back, see you around'. They may not move as quickly in their relationship as season 6 but I do expect growth. To tell you the truth the characters written into a corner is Shamy, because if Shamy is to progress, Sheldon needs to change and that is the writers biggest problem. Is there anyone out there that believes that Sheldon changing is not a bigger deal, to this show, then L/P living together?

[Guitars1964]

SRAM,  personally I do not think that Leonard and Penny will be ignored in any sense.  The strong interest in, and, dare I say, love for, these 2 characters reflected in this forum I believe is also represented in the viewing audience as a whole.  Much of the past 6 seasons' story line about L&P has focused on their tenuous relationship.  I am glad that the writers didn't throw us a curve ball and make the goodbye ambiguous or otherwise unsatisfying (although I started to wonder with Sheldon's tantrums in the back seat).  Those of us who like the L&P relationship have waited a long time for that goodbye scene and exchange of emotion - there would have been an audible groan across TV land if they hadn't handle that season finale as they did.  I am sure Penny's response when she sees Leonard again will be a bit more demonstrative than you fear.

 

But I think those that assume that L&P now move to the background for Season 7 also assume that there is no basis for ongoing comedy and a fun story line without the "are they or arent' they?" tension.  But as others have commented somewhere on this forum, there are potentially lots of interesting story lines for Leonard and Penny without having to either do another break up (collective groan!) or heading to the altar (end of Season 6 and Penny is still hitting the pause button on that).  Even with the marriage deal, the show could do an engagement end of Season 7 finale and wedding end of Season 8 (year long engagement not unusual).  I mean, that's 8 years start to finish for a wedding - not exactly break neck speed.  And that's 2 more years from now!  Yes, if the show wants to try to get to 10 seasons, that leaves 2 seasons to keep interest up.   But with the great interest in the characters, are the writers really going to wait to wrap up everything, including the big wedding until the last 2 episodes of Season 10 (or 11 or 12)?    By then the loyal viewers are going to say, enough already, somebody get a shotgun and a preacher!!!

 

Just sayin'.

[Oldnavy]

I can't believe they are just going to ignore Lenny in season 7, not after season 6 ratings and it being a strong Lenny season. We already know there is going to be a big event when Leonard comes back. Does anyone really think that when Leonard shows up at Penny's door she just going to say 'Hi, glad your back, see you around'. They may not move as quickly in their relationship as season 6 but I do expect growth. To tell you the truth the characters written into a corner is Shamy, because if Shamy is to progress, Sheldon needs to change and that is the writers biggest problem. Is there anyone out there that believes that Sheldon changing is not a bigger deal, to this show, then L/P living together?

I agree with SRAM.  When Leonard returned from the Arctic he was surprised by Penny's reaction.  He did not come back expecting to be dating Penny.  So, I would be surprised not to see something significant happen when Leonard returns.  The ILY by Penny in the season finale showed some real depth of intimacy to their relationship so I cannot see them doing any major negative things with Lenny.  I will not say that it is impossible but I can't help but thinking that for the writers bring about a major break up of L/P could be very unpopular.     

[ArmyGirl]

I am not saying that Leonard and Penny won't have a homecoming.  I just wonder if it will be treated in the same manner as Leonard send off as less about them and more about another character(s). 

 

As for upcoming storylines for Leonard, Penny, and Lenny --- since a day one fan, history has proven that writers have no problems pushing them to the background.  I know there is plenty of material out there that can be used to push forward our OTP, it's about what the show will due and how much effort they are willing to put into the storylines.

Edited May 22, 2013 by ArmyGirl

[Nogravitasatall]

I've been thinking about this and for me, as long as they keep the love, I can maybe live with Leonard as the straight man, as long as they get the odd moment where tptb affirm his intrinsic nerdiness. They have given Sheldon something of a hiding lately too, so I'd be happier if they make the antagonist someone outside the group. Flat Earthers maybe.

Edited May 23, 2013 by Nogravitasatall