Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[MJistheBOMB]

i swear if the finale big finale thing is sheldon hugging amy ill scream 

In happiness or annoyance? LOL

[Retroluv]

Even if it's not explicitly stated - as in, Sheldon says the words "I love you" - I think TPTB are planning some sort of declaration in the very near future. Maybe he will acknowledge his feelings in a more understated, Sheldon-y way...he will tell her that he has very strong affectionate feelings for her, or that he sees a long, successful future with her, or that he is afraid of losing her, or something else that skirts around the ILY but still makes it an inevitability. If we get the ILY too soon, it will be difficult to hold off the physical aspect of their relationship...and then they'd have to send them down the aisle or to lamaze classes by series finale lol. Well, maybe that's extreme...:D

Bottom line, I think TPTB are going to pace themselves a bit more than the Fan fiction-lover inside of me secretly hopes for.

Edited February 9, 2013 by Retroluv

[Kiru Breezy]

I would have said the same before hearing him talk to P/L in 6x14. The way he emphasized he is fond of Amy before anything else, and how serious he was throughout that talk. I think he's a lot more emotionally mature than we give him credit for. And then again this week, how he clearly and concisely narrowed down the problem in a way none of the other three were able to. And then next week he manages to understand how important it is to tell her that she's the only one he wants by his side if something bad happens to him. That doesn't sound to me like a guy who doesn't understand ILY is something important. I honestly think at this stage his bigger issues are in the physical realm than the emotional realm. 

 

Well Damn.

 

[Catlina]

One question popped up to my mind, when I was rewatching 6x15. I was thinking that what if Sheldon was somehow faking the emotions and feelings before Amy when Amy got angry? That he wasn't so scared truly in that moment, that he was only/partly feigning them? I really do  believe those emotions there were real, but because he was sort of blaming/lying about Penny, and not telling the truth, I began to think what if his feelings there weren't as true as I thought. But then I thought it can't be just possible for Sheldon in that kind of a situation? He can't keep a secret or lie without that it shows to others around him. Please tell me he wasn't faking there? The scene is so full of emotions I just try to figure out what happens there in his feelings.   And am I the only one that thought that his eyes got a little bit wet there when he was speaking about snake in their garden? Did it just show to me like that...

[tmp]

I would have said the same before hearing him talk to P/L in 6x14. The way he emphasized he is fond of Amy before anything else, and how serious he was throughout that talk. I think he's a lot more emotionally mature than we give him credit for. And then again this week, how he clearly and concisely narrowed down the problem in a way none of the other three were able to. And then next week he manages to understand how important it is to tell her that she's the only one he wants by his side if something bad happens to him. That doesn't sound to me like a guy who doesn't understand ILY is something important. I honestly think at this stage his bigger issues are in the physical realm than the emotional realm. 

 

Excellent point!  I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right.  They've really showed a lot of emotional maturing lately of him.  Come to think of it, Bakersfield marked the beginning of several straight episodes of growth.  What do you think is the next step--an ILY, physical progress, a frank discussion (finally with each other and not their friends) of their feelings for each other?  I'd love to see a discussion in which S tells A, "ILY and I'm working on the physical.  Let's make hugging a regular thing."

[Kiru Breezy]

One question popped up to my mind, when I was rewatching 6x15. I was thinking that what if Sheldon was somehow faking the emotions and feelings before Amy when Amy got angry? That he wasn't so scared truly in that moment, that he was only/partly feigning them? I really do  believe those emotions there were real, but because he was sort of blaming/lying about Penny, and not telling the truth, I began to think what if his feelings there weren't as true as I thought. But then I thought it can't be just possible for Sheldon in that kind of a situation? He can't keep a secret or lie without that it shows to others around him. Please tell me he wasn't faking there? The scene is so full of emotions I just try to figure out what happens there in his feelings.   And am I the only one that thought that his eyes got a little bit wet there when he was speaking about snake in their garden? Did it just show to me like that...

 

Oh he wasn't. His voice was soft and apologetic. No phoniness in there at all. He wasn't scared, he was hesitant and unsure of what to say or how to process before she blew up on him and then he got scared. 

 

And Sheldon can LIE. He lies when it suits him and he can keep a secret...he's done before.

[Kiru Breezy]

Excellent point!  I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right.  They've really showed a lot of emotional maturing lately of him.  Come to think of it, Bakersfield marked the beginning of several straight episodes of growth.  What do you think is the next step--an ILY, physical progress, a frank discussion (finally with each other and not their friends) of their feelings for each other?  I'd love to see a discussion in which S tells A, "ILY and I'm working on the physical.  Let's make hugging a regular thing."

 

Amy picked his emotional lock in TLA. She opened up the can of worms that is his emotions. Re-watch that episode and see that ever since then he's been a ball of feels. 

 

Even 43 Peculiarity and TSS, he was very emotional. 

[Razberrypie]

One question popped up to my mind, when I was rewatching 6x15. I was thinking that what if Sheldon was somehow faking the emotions and feelings before Amy when Amy got angry? That he wasn't so scared truly in that moment, that he was only/partly feigning them? I really do  believe those emotions there were real, but because he was sort of blaming/lying about Penny, and not telling the truth, I began to think what if his feelings there weren't as true as I thought. But then I thought it can't be just possible for Sheldon in that kind of a situation? He can't keep a secret or lie without that it shows to others around him. Please tell me he wasn't faking there? The scene is so full of emotions I just try to figure out what happens there in his feelings.   And am I the only one that thought that his eyes got a little bit wet there when he was speaking about snake in their garden? Did it just show to me like that...

 

I don't think he was faking it, I think that Sheldon's emotions were becoming so overwhelming when he saw Amy upset that he thought that he wouldn't be able to take seeing her reaction to the truth. Sheldon has matured emtionally a lot this season but I still think he was scared, this would've been the first time he'd made a big emotional reveal to Amy and I have a feeling he wasn't ready, especially as this was a negative one. There was a risk involved and he's inexperienced in taking emotional risks, so he looked at the worst case scenario and decided to take the easy/safe way out.

[The God Particle]

Excellent point!  I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right.  They've really showed a lot of emotional maturing lately of him.  Come to think of it, Bakersfield marked the beginning of several straight episodes of growth.  What do you think is the next step--an ILY, physical progress, a frank discussion (finally with each other and not their friends) of their feelings for each other?  I'd love to see a discussion in which S tells A, "ILY and I'm working on the physical.  Let's make hugging a regular thing."

As long as the I love you is pretty nonchalant as though of course he does your scenario sounds brilliant.

[koops]

Excellent point!  I hadn't thought of it that way, but you're right.  They've really showed a lot of emotional maturing lately of him.  Come to think of it, Bakersfield marked the beginning of several straight episodes of growth.  What do you think is the next step--an ILY, physical progress, a frank discussion (finally with each other and not their friends) of their feelings for each other?  I'd love to see a discussion in which S tells A, "ILY and I'm working on the physical.  Let's make hugging a regular thing."

 

 

To be honest I have no idea in what form it will come, but I think there's going to be some revealing at the end of the season. Because I keep saying that Amy has very little or no clue as to what is going on under the surface and I think that she will find out at the end of this season. Whether it will be because they have a conversation, or she has another outburst and he pours his heart out or he does something for her that really says a lot, I have no idea. It's really hard to predict with these two. There's so many possible scenarios. I don't know that he will come straight out and say ILY, maybe he will do it in his own words. I keep saying his "You're my girlfriend" is essentially his way of saying it. Because just swap the words every time he uses that sentence and it makes perfect sense. And I think there's got to be a kiss coming at some point because it's been far too long since the last one (and because I worry Chloe might implode if there isn't one soon )

Edited February 9, 2013 by spook

[Pomita]

I would have said the same before hearing him talk to P/L in 6x14. The way he emphasized he is fond of Amy before anything else, and how serious he was throughout that talk. I think he's a lot more emotionally mature than we give him credit for. And then again this week, how he clearly and concisely narrowed down the problem in a way none of the other three were able to. And then next week he manages to understand how important it is to tell her that she's the only one he wants by his side if something bad happens to him. That doesn't sound to me like a guy who doesn't understand ILY is  something important. I honestly think at this stage his bigger issues are in the physical realm than the emotional realm.

 

I agree that Sheldon has made some breathtaking strides forward, emotionally, in the last few episodes. From his behavior it seems almost feasible to predict that he already knows, at some level, that he loves Amy. But it's also possible that Sheldon, with his matter-of-factness,  may turn out to be the 'show your love' kind of person. Even after everything he's feeling, doing, growing and learning for her, he may still not have a clear idea of the importance of saying 'I love you' to her. He could be like 'of course I do, she knows it, I've done ___ for her'. So tmp's scenario of someone having to tell him that he needs to say it, might still carry through.

 

Catlina - I'm quite sure Sheldon's emotions weren't feigned, in that moment. Look at his eyes. Jim is a good actor, Sheldon isn't! He was genuinely dumbstruck by her outburst, concerned and disturbed and probably also scared she might decide to leave him (an underlying insecurity he's had throughout this season). And he was clearly sorry to put her in that position - his face and eyes and even his voice spoke apologies. He was brought to the end of his emotional tether when he chose to tell a lie, in an attempt to diffuse the situation and make her less hurt and angry with him.

[Razberrypie]

For us, Sheldon and Amy have been going out for just over a year but Amy said over two years. Before, I thought when their 2 year anniversary was mentioned in the Date Night Variable they were talking about when they first met or something but it was official. So I guess their timeline really is quite different to ours I'm still amazed that into their third year they've still only kissed once and Sheldon hasn't properly hugged or cuddled her yet. I agree with everyone who says this really needs to happen! It's getting crazy now!

[The God Particle]

For us, Sheldon and Amy have been going out for just over a year but Amy said over two years. Before, I thought when their 2 year anniversary was mentioned in the Date Night Variable they were talking about when they first met or something but it was official. So I guess their timeline really is quite different to ours I'm still amazed that into their third year they've still only kissed once and Sheldon hasn't properly hugged or cuddled her yet. I agree with everyone who says this really needs to happen! It's getting crazy now!

 

Amy is counting from when they first met and as Sheldon did not correct her perhaps this is how they both are viewing their relationship now. It was this especially that had me believing his honest bewildered behavior in that scene. If he hadn't been or truly strongly objected to her calculations he would have spoke up to correct her. He did not. Which for Sheldon is quite telling. He does not seem to be able to hurt her feelings. Could this point to his own? I strongly believe so. Yet, we have to see something more on screen to really have a definitive answer.

[Catlina]

Oh thanks all who replied. I was a little bit worried about this faking emotions thing, but I agree with all your posts here. Now the scene makes more sense to me.
Yes to all above, we definetly need a kiss, cuddle or some sort of expression of love for those two! One scenario that I have had on my mind is that  Sheldon would have to stay overnight at Amy's place for some reason (there is no bus going, Leonard is not going to pick him up, etc.) so that Sheldon couldn't escape from those situations there with Amy and then something lovable and awkward would happen between them.  It would cause some level of intimacy happen, kiss/ILY/cuddle etc. Or that they just could sleep in same bed, Sheldon next to Amy and he would gently stroke her hair as he proposed to do her earlier. If he first insisted that he has to sleep on the couch there could be some hilarious moments when he changes his mind while lying on the couch (for some reason, it's cold there in the living room, he's lonely or afraid of something, Amy has been feeling rejected etc.) and goes to her bedroom door and knocks three times *knock* "Amy". *knock* "Amy". *knock* "Amy". Amy would be so surprised...   That would be another comical, awkward and hilarious moment when Sheldon is climbing into her bed and tries to stay another side of the bed and keep it all clear and not to show her any emotions by his side or that he is by any means feeling unsure or insecure there (or maybe even that he's a bit turned on by her, who knows). Another possible scene for proposals and counter proposals? Oh the possibilities. I don't know if this could be a scene for season 7, maybe? Btw, we got to see Amy's bedroom in the beginnig of the season, (was it 6x02?) It may be significant, who knows. We hadn't seen it earlier though. It would be anyway nice to see Sheldon at least visiting there and see what he thinks about her bedroom.

[silverangel]

Question: Do you think Amy needs to somehow shake Sheldon, I don't know for example, she imply clearly, that she has had enough of waiting and she breaks up with him, or maybe writers will come up with,  that she has to leave, for example an  chance appeared and it will be big  opportunity in her career, whether it would cause that Sheldon will  understand  and will  want admit loudly and clearly:  yes  I love her and I miss her,  and that would give him the courage to tell her that. Just as it was with Penny and Leonard when they  were on the north pole.

[koops]

I don't think the drama is necessary. From where I see Sheldon standing right now, I think all it would take is the right moment and context. But the writers might do something like that, I just don't see it as necessary. I think he knows what he feels very well, I think the drama would have been more useful if he didn't know how he felt. And they did that in 6x01. I think that's what set the whole season in motion. I don't know that they'd go for a repeat of that.

 

But I'm a big fan of the "Amy goes away for a bit" scenario. Nothing drastic like she has to move for good, but just for a few weeks maybe. That would create the right context for the above, since they've been joined at the hip ever since they met, and it would be quite a change for them to be apart for that long. Not to mention I'd love to see the gang having to put up with Sheldon with no Amy for an episode or two.

[silverangel]

No not for good but for some time. I wasn't meant the drama but a little slap in the face for wake up. I know that he knows what he feels but he have no courage to admit that. Maybe this going-away-Amy-for-some-time will be the kick for him to say it loud

Edited February 9, 2013 by silverangelD

[Kiru Breezy]

I don't think the drama is necessary. From where I see Sheldon standing right now, I think all it would take is the right moment and context. But the writers might do something like that, I just don't see it as necessary. I think he knows what he feels very well, I think the drama would have been more useful if he didn't know how he felt. And they did that in 6x01. I think that's what set the whole season in motion. I don't know that they'd go for a repeat of that.

 

But I'm a big fan of the "Amy goes away for a bit" scenario. Nothing drastic like she has to move for good, but just for a few weeks maybe. That would create the right context for the above, since they've been joined at the hip ever since they met, and it would be quite a change for them to be apart for that long. Not to mention I'd love to see the gang having to put up with Sheldon with no Amy for an episode or two.

 

I had a somewhat similar headcanon.

 

However, I had the guys or someone point out how attached and dependent he is on her and him tries to prove them wrong. 

 

By DELIBERATELY trying to return to Sheldon-BA (Before Amy)  and of course he fails miserably.

 

But ur idea sounds great too.

 

And one more thing, *if* Amy were to ever leave him - do you think he would put up that wall again? Regress? Shut himself off. 

[bigbangsheldon]

to be honest i pooed myself when amy started shouting 

 

 

To be honest I have no idea in what form it will come, but I think there's going to be some revealing at the end of the season. Because I keep saying that Amy has very little or no clue as to what is going on under the surface and I think that she will find out at the end of this season. Whether it will be because they have a conversation, or she has another outburst and he pours his heart out or he does something for her that really says a lot, I have no idea. It's really hard to predict with these two. There's so many possible scenarios. I don't know that he will come straight out and say ILY, maybe he will do it in his own words. I keep saying his "You're my girlfriend" is essentially his way of saying it. Because just swap the words every time he uses that sentence and it makes perfect sense. And I think there's got to be a kiss coming at some point because it's been far too long since the last one (and because I worry Chloe might implode if there isn't one soon )

i really am no joke at all i feel like im losing my mind and it will be gone if we dont get one ahh!!!!!!" :'( i dont care how i sound

 

 

it would be in frustration monique i refuse to wait for season finales for all the sheldon initiated contact ie the hand hold last year

[koops]

I had a somewhat similar headcanon.

 

However, I had the guys or someone point out how attached and dependent he is on her and him tries to prove them wrong. 

 

By DELIBERATELY trying to return to Sheldon-BA (Before Amy)  and of course he fails miserably.

 

But ur idea sounds great too.

 

And one more thing, *if* Amy were to ever leave him - do you think he would put up that wall again? Regress? Shut himself off. 

 

LOL! I like your scenario! that'd be funny actually. But would Amy put up with his "experiment"?

 

I don't think they'll have her break up with him because I can't see a realistic scenario for a sitcom in that I think he wouldn't recover. They're at a stage where the cats aren't going to cut it and I don't think there's a way to make it funny for a sitcom. The thing with them is that even though they're meant to be the couple of weirdos out of the three couples they're actually the one that is very serious because of all the personal issues they have. He's made himself way too vulnerable by now and he's worked so hard to get there that if it's all for nothing I think he would literally turn into a robot and/or have a breakdown.

 

Which is ironic considering all the war raging in the "Is he going to choose Amy over science?" thread, because I think without her he actually wouldn't give a crap about anything anymore. 

[silverangel]

I don't think the drama is necessary. From where I see Sheldon standing right now, I think all it would take is the right moment and context. But the writers might do something like that, I just don't see it as necessary. I think he knows what he feels very well, I think the drama would have been more useful if he didn't know how he felt. And they did that in 6x01. I think that's what set the whole season in motion. I don't know that they'd go for a repeat of that.

 

But I'm a big fan of the "Amy goes away for a bit" scenario. Nothing drastic like she has to move for good, but just for a few weeks maybe. That would create the right context for the above, since they've been joined at the hip ever since they met, and it would be quite a change for them to be apart for that long. Not to mention I'd love to see the gang having to put up with Sheldon with no Amy for an episode or two.

That is what I meant. Not something dramatic but a little kick for him to do something  on what  Amy is waiting for desperatly

Edited February 10, 2013 by silverangelD

[ShamyFTW]

Lots of good points here!  That's why I love this site! 

 

I know we all try to understand Sheldon, but I still feel for Amy.  I know it's a fictional show but try to imagine dating someone for two years without any physical contact.

[ShamyFTW]

LOL! I like your scenario! that'd be funny actually. But would Amy put up with his "experiment"?

 

I don't think they'll have her break up with him because I can't see a realistic scenario for a sitcom in that I think he wouldn't recover. They're at a stage where the cats aren't going to cut it and I don't think there's a way to make it funny for a sitcom. The thing with them is that even though they're meant to be the couple of weirdos out of the three couples they're actually the one that is very serious because of all the personal issues they have. He's made himself way too vulnerable by now and he's worked so hard to get there that if it's all for nothing I think he would literally turn into a robot and/or have a breakdown.

 

Which is ironic considering all the war raging in the "Is he going to choose Amy over science?" thread, because I think without her he actually wouldn't give a crap about anything anymore. 

You really have great insight on this couple! 

 

You're right, I would hate for a Amy/Sheldon breakup.  Sheldon would be a wreck, I mean remember his behavior in the  the Flaming Plattoon or whatever.  He was facebook stalking!! haha.  Anyway it's weird because if a breakup happens, I see Amy recovering more so than Sheldon. 

[silverangel]

Quote:I know we all try to understand Sheldon, but I still feel for Amy. I know it's a fictional show but try to imagine dating someone for two years without any physical contact.

 

I can't imagine that. Going out with someone so hot  and sexy like Sheldon, and don't have phisical contakt. It would be torture. But he is worth waiting. The question is how long, and what to do to push him to do something physical like

Edited February 10, 2013 by silverangelD

[Kiru Breezy]

LOL! I like your scenario! that'd be funny actually. But would Amy put up with his "experiment"?

 

I don't think they'll have her break up with him because I can't see a realistic scenario for a sitcom in that I think he wouldn't recover. They're at a stage where the cats aren't going to cut it and I don't think there's a way to make it funny for a sitcom. The thing with them is that even though they're meant to be the couple of weirdos out of the three couples they're actually the one that is very serious because of all the personal issues they have. He's made himself way too vulnerable by now and he's worked so hard to get there that if it's all for nothing I think he would literally turn into a robot and/or have a breakdown.

 

Which is ironic considering all the war raging in the "Is he going to choose Amy over science?" thread, because I think without her he actually wouldn't give a crap about anything anymore. 

 

How about Amy help him cheat?  To the guys it seems as if he's successfully done it - lets say the time frame was a week - but of course Amy was helping him cheat the whole time...everyone finds out he was cheating in the end...