Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[BazingaFan]

I also think there will be some move by sheldon toward amy by season end.  They have to have something important happen for the finale, and what else could it be?  Given what they've done so far this season, it makes sense that they're leading up to something shamy-related.

 

And it would be a perfect way to end this season, with everyone eager over the summer to find out what happens.  Maybe a hug, kiss... who knows... it wouldn't take much to get people excited.

[koops]

I also think there will be some move by sheldon toward amy by season end.  They have to have something important happen for the finale, and what else could it be?  Given what they've done so far this season, it makes sense that they're leading up to something shamy-related.

 

And it would be a perfect way to end this season, with everyone eager over the summer to find out what happens.  Maybe a hug, kiss... who knows... it wouldn't take much to get people excited.

 

I just hope it's not a cliffhanger or I'm going to die. I don't know how the Lennys coped with the whole Raj/Penny thing that summer. 

[rachelshamyfan]

Maybe it will be something as significant like amy being sheldons emergency contact

Edited February 10, 2013 by rachygd

[vasu]

Honestly I love this show....but characterization and development are'nt this shows strong suit... I would never try to refer this show a person who likes to see a character based show... because in a character based show audience should be able to relate to the main characters...they should feel what those characters feel... 

 

Since season 1 most of this show has been done from Sheldon's point of view.... but the thing is Sheldon is not a character build for so that we can relate to him ... he is engineered to be different from normal people........  so the audience can never put themselves in Sheldon's shoes..

 

The major issue is that Sheldon is essentially the bad guy or the fall guy in many many episodes ...because nothing but selfishness motivates his actions on most the occasions...which makes it hard to sympathise with him.....

Edited February 10, 2013 by vasu

[koops]

Honestly I love this show....but characterization and development are'nt this shows strong suit... I would never try to refer this show a person who likes to see a character based show... 

 

Since season 1 most of this show has been done from Sheldon's point of view.... but the thing is Sheldon is not a character one can relate to ..... the audience can never put themselves in Sheldon's shoes..

 

The major issue is that Sheldon is essentially the bad guy or the fall guy in many many episodes ...because nothing but selfishness motivates his actions on most the occasions...which makes it hard to sympathise with him.....

 

Sheldon is not a character build for so that we can relate to him ... he is engineered to be different from normal people...

 

lol, sorry but that is a bit presumptuous. Yes, Sheldon is an exaggerated character, this is a sitcom after all. But I can assure you I relate A LOT to him. That's why I get out of those threads sometimes because it is difficult trying to explain why I see some of his actions in a certain way without it getting personal. He's the one character on tv ever I probably relate the most to.  Also, many times the writers and cast have pointed out how people (like myself) have come out to thank them for finally portraying the "different" on tv and make it look like it's ok not to be like everybody else. So I'm sure it isn't just me who feels this way.

 

In any case, we weren't talking about relating to him as much as following his story and knowing where he comes from. If you don't know how hard it is for him to be touched you don't appreciate how big of a deal it is for him to grab someone's hand. You don't need to be a "Sheldon" to get that, you just need to follow the show.

Edited February 10, 2013 by spook

[Kiru Breezy]

I started watching TBBT 2 episodes from the season 2 finale. I've watched it religiously ever since. I remember when Amy came on in the S3 finale and I was like 'Huh?...this should be interesting!, A girlfriend for Sheldon? Pffffffft!'

 

But you know what I would miss a few episodes here and there and not care to catch up on it. But towards the end of season 4 and early season 5 when he clocked Leonard, I was like WHOA! there is something special going on here. I have to watch this unusual and utterly fascinating duo.

 

So...while I love the other characters with Leonard being my #1, the Shamy gives the motivation to keep tuning in and join forums (which has stalled my productivity sometimes) 

 

So...

 

Yeah.

[vasu]

lol, sorry but that is a bit presumptuous. Yes, Sheldon is an exaggerated character, this is a sitcom after all. But I can assure you I relate A LOT to him. That's why I get out of those threads sometimes because it is difficult trying to explain why I see some of his actions in a certain way without it getting personal. He's the one character on tv ever I probably relate the most to.  Also, many times the writers and cast have pointed out how people (like myself) have come out to thank them for finally portraying the "different" on tv and make it look like it's ok not to be like everybody else. So I'm sure it isn't just me who feels this way.

 

In any case, we weren't talking about relating to him as much as following his story and knowing where he comes from. If you don't know how hard it is for him to be touched you don't appreciate how big of a deal it is for him to grab someone's hand. You don't need to be a "Sheldon" to get that, you just need to follow the show.

 

sorry but as far as I am concerned if you relate to Sheldon a lot .... most of your posts should have been logical...but many of your posts seem to be about the emotional lovey dovey stuff...... and you should not have been getting upset over the negative threads , you should have kept on agruing logically and prove your point and get what you want ( I can only judge you by your posts )

 

Episodes like hamburger postulate , nerdvana annihilation , recombination hypothesis , tangerine factor , good guy fluctuation , isolation permutation come under character based episodes where most of the audience could relate to the main protaganist ...their hope , their issues are all relatable...then when they succeed or fail humor flows from natural emotions...

in all these episodes their hope , their issues drives the cause but where as in most of the Sheldon based episodes his selfishness drives the cause....

 

Till now there is no concrete explanation of why Sheldon is like that...all of them are socially stunted....but why Sheldon likes his spot so much (not the logical explanation)....why does he not like change... why did he become like this.... we never had a back-story which should have shown essentially why Sheldon is like that ....and he is not even autistic...and he grew up in a natural environment...something strong must have happened which made him like that....but we never saw any solid explanations on this....

 

I know that I don't have to be have be Sheldon in order to get him ...but I'm sure as hell that 99.99999999999999% of the people who watch this show would nothing be like Sheldon

Edited February 10, 2013 by vasu

[koops]

sorry but as far as I am concerned if you relate to Sheldon a lot .... most of your posts should have been logical...but many of your posts seem to be about the emotional lovey dovey stuff...... and you should not have been getting upset over the negative threads , you should have kept on agruing logically and prove your point and get what you want ( I can only judge you by your posts )

 

Episodes like hamburger postulate , nerdvana annihilation , recombination hypothesis , tangerine factor , good guy fluctuation , isolation permutation come under character based episodes where most of the audience could relate to the main protaganist ...their hope , their issues are all relatable...then when they succeed or fail humor flows from natural emotions...

in all these episodes their hope , their issues drives the cause but where as in most of the Sheldon based episodes his selfishness drives the cause....

 

Till now there is no concrete explanation of why Sheldon is like that...all of them are socially stunted....but why Sheldon likes his spot so much (not the logical explanation)....why does he not like change... why did he become like this.... we never had a back-story which should have shown essentially why Sheldon is like that ....and he is not even autistic...and he grew up in a natural environment...something strong must have happened which made him like that....but we never saw any solid explanations on this....

 

I know that I don't have to be have be Sheldon in order to get him ...but I'm sure as hell that 99.99999999999999% of the people who watch this show would nothing be like Sheldon

 

First of all, I'm not saying I AM Sheldon, I say I relate to him. Whether my posts fit your concept of what a post of someone who relates to Sheldon should be like is another story and it doesn't concern me.

 

I'm not upset over the negative threads, I get fed up with arguing after a while because it is tiring and I don't feel like bringing up my own experiences to explain stuff to others, that's all. It's my personal stuff and sometimes I reach the point where the only way to explain what I mean is by bringing that up and I don't want to do it, therefore I leave the threads. I can't keep arguing forever, I have other things to do to in real life! lol. And I always approach the relationship analysis in a logical way, you rarely see me squee. Just because the content of my posts is about the relationship it doesn't mean they're emotional posts.

 

About Sheldon's backstory. Well, first of all he did not grew up in a "normal" (whatever that means) environment. He was a child prodigy who grew up in a less than supportive family, with an alcoholic father and was sent off to college when he was 11 years old. Talk about burning bridges. Secondly, while he might not be diagnosed with autism because the writers don't want to be stuck with that, he does have autistic or peculiar traits. People don't have these traits or develop these traits just because one day an event happened and all of a sudden they turn into this. Not everything is PTSD. That's the silly Hollywood version of personality and psychology that we've been used to, that there's one triggering event that turns someone in what they are, because it's a cheap, easy version to provide a quick backstory that's easy to understand. 

 

I personally am not that interested in why he is like that so much. I'm more interested in how he navigates the world being how he is. Which is why I find this to be a very interesting character-driven show.

Edited February 10, 2013 by spook

[ShamyFTW]

I started watching TBBT 2 episodes from the season 2 finale. I've watched it religiously ever since. I remember when Amy came on in the S3 finale and I was like 'Huh?...this should be interesting!, A girlfriend for Sheldon? Pffffffft!'

 

But you know what I would miss a few episodes here and there and not care to catch up on it. But towards the end of season 4 and early season 5 when he clocked Leonard, I was like WHOA! there is something special going on here. I have to watch this unusual and utterly fascinating duo.

 

So...while I love the other characters with Leonard being my #1, the Shamy gives the motivation to keep tuning in and join forums (which has stalled my productivity sometimes) 

 

So...

 

Yeah.

Wow, that is so weird, that was the same episode that made me set up and say, wow, Sheldon has become possessive of Amy!.  I started to tune in more to find out what was up with that!

 

I really feel like that particular episode "The Pulled Groin" or whatever is a good example to all that believed Sheldon was asexual.  I remember when Plimpton came to stay at the apartment, and maybe Sheldon was interested but of course he wasn't going to just jump in bed with her.  In the cafeteria, he was surprisd that Leonard thought he should have mentioned the he knew Plimpton, when clearly it was more private to Sheldon.  They had been corresponding for months, and then Sheldon said it felt like a betrayel when Leonard slept with her. Sooooo, in the pulled groin Shedon's whole playful demeanor and facial expression changed when Leoard made that comment about Amy being able to open him up. HAHAH.  Sheldon, knows how leonard can jump in the bed with women he barely knows, so hense the karate chop and the verbal warning "It's a warning, she is not for you!"  Aww, Sheldon was already attached to Amy at this point.   

 

This may have already been discussed so sorry if it's a rehash.

[Razberrypie]

There are  actually many people in the world like Sheldon. My mum's job is to act as a mentor to bunch of guys almost exactly like him, confused as to why people get fed up with them because they genuinely believed the world would fit around them instead of the other way round. Many of them were also child prodogies struggling with the increasing social pressure that college life was putting on them.  That's why she loves the show so much, because Sheldon is someone she can understand and roots for. You don't always have to relate to a character yourself to love them, even though Spook does on many levels .

 

On another note, I recently told her about people who say that Sheldon's character development is "unrealistic" because it is impossible for those kinds of people to change which she thought was BS. She thinks that for Sheldon to stay exaclty the same under those circumstances is the far more "unrealistic" scenario.

 

She's helped her students to mature just like the role of Penny on Sheldon, and taught them about how to cope with their emotions having an unexpected effect on their logical brain so it will gradually become more normal for them. They've admitted to her that they cover up their emotions because they're frightening and have the same drastic and off-the-wall reactions to them that Sheldon did. But they do slowly learn how to understand emotions coming from themselves and from other people in typical social situations, which also has a knock-on-effect of toning down their anxieties and OCD behaviour. So yes, people like him are fully capable of the development that Sheldon is showing, especially with the mentoring from Penny, Leonard and now the effect of Amy who's forcing him to learn how let his emotions run alongside his logic. That's why Sheldon is her favourite character, not only because she can see accurate and funny similarities to her students but also because she can follow how his new life is bringing him out of his shell.

[vasu]

First of all, I'm not saying I AM Sheldon, I say I relate to him. Whether my posts fit your concept of what a post of someone who relates to Sheldon should be like is another story and it doesn't concern me.

 

I'm not upset over the negative threads, I get fed up with arguing after a while because it is tiring and I don't feel like bringing up my own experiences to explain stuff to others, that's all. It's my personal stuff and sometimes I reach the point where the only way to explain what I mean is by bringing that up and I don't want to do it, therefore I leave the threads. I can't keep arguing forever, I have other things to do to in real life! lol. And I always approach the relationship analysis in a logical way, you rarely see me squee. Just because the content of my posts is about the relationship it doesn't mean they're emotional posts.

 

About Sheldon's backstory. Well, first of all he did not grew up in a "normal" (whatever that means) environment. He was a child prodigy who grew up in a less than supportive family, with an alcoholic father and was sent off to college when he was 11 years old. Talk about burning bridges. Secondly, while he might not be diagnosed with autism because the writers don't want to be stuck with that, he does have autistic or peculiar traits. People don't have these traits or develop these traits just because one day an event happened and all of a sudden they turn into this. Not everything is PTSD. That's the silly Hollywood version of personality and psychology that we've been used to, that there's one triggering event that turns someone in what they are, because it's a cheap, easy version to provide a quick backstory that's easy to understand. 

 

I personally am not that interested in why he is like that so much. I'm more interested in how he navigates the world being how he is. Which is why I find this to be a very interesting character-driven show.

 

 

Sorry I did'nt imply anything personal ( that's why I said I can only judge you by your posts ) because I don't know you and I don't know whether what you are telling the truth or not...no offense (same applies to me also )

 

I don't remember properly by I think I saw you mentioning something about the negative posts bothering you and I think I have seen you squee many times

 

As far as autism in concerned .....once here in the same thread I was involved in an argument where I was told that I should accept what the writers/actors are saying....when I said I did not agree with them.....

 

And recently in The Santa Stimulation episode we  were shown a back-story of why Sheldon does not like christmas which he actually knows a lot about and used to enjoy it as a child...because santa did not bring his beloved grandfather back.... this was one triggering event...and it was not cheap or an easy version...

 

I don't know what hollywood version is because I am mostly a bollywood person

 

I never said this is not an interesting show....but this certainly is not a character driven show....because there are many many examples where Sheldon's selfishness was the driving cause and  still Sheldon was shown as the victor...yes we were shown his emotional side sometimes...but most of the times his actions are selfish...

Edited February 10, 2013 by vasu

[The God Particle]

There are  actually many people in the world like Sheldon. My mum's job is to act as a mentor to bunch of guys almost exactly like him, confused as to why people get fed up with them because they genuinely believed the world would fit around them instead of the other way round. Many of them were also child prodogies struggling with the increasing social pressure that college life was putting on them.  That's why she loves the show so much, because Sheldon is someone she can understand and roots for. You don't always have to relate to a character yourself to love them, even though Spook does on many levels .

 

On another note, I recently told her about people who say that Sheldon's character development is "unrealistic" because it is impossible for those kinds of people to change which she thought was BS. She thinks that for Sheldon to stay exaclty the same under those circumstances is the far more "unrealistic" scenario.

 

She's helped her students to mature just like the role of Penny on Sheldon, and taught them about how to cope with their emotions having an unexpected effect on their logical brain so it will gradually become more normal for them. They've admitted to her that they cover up their emotions because they're frightening and have the same drastic and off-the-wall reactions to them that Sheldon did. But they do slowly learn how to understand emotions coming from themselves and from other people in typical social situations, which also has a knock-on-effect of toning down their anxieties and OCD behaviour. So yes, people like him are fully capable of the development that Sheldon is showing, especially with the mentoring from Penny, Leonard and now the effect of Amy who's forcing him to learn how let his emotions run alongside his logic. That's why Sheldon is her favourite character, not only because she can see accurate and funny similarities to her students but also because she can follow how his new life is bringing him out of his shell.

And with this quite excellent post may we please go back to discussing Shamy? The rest of the Forum has been getting too negative let us not have that issue with this thread as well. Thank you.

On another note how did Friday's Shamy Chat go? Should we have weekly Chat's at noon PST and 6pm PST when a new episode airs the day before?

[Razberrypie]

And with this quite excellent post may we please go back to discussing Shamy? The rest of the Forum has been getting too negative let us not have that issue with this thread as well. Thank you.

On another note how did Friday's Shamy Chat go? Should we have weekly Chat's at noon PST and 6pm PST when a new episode airs the day before?

 

Ahh yes, sorry, I should have really posted that on the 'Amy interfering with Sheldon's work' thread because as soon as I made that post in the Shamy thread I saw someone over there, speak of the devil, say that people like Sheldon don't change!! . Darn bad timing as usual! But yes, Shamy goodness! I want the VD episode so badly! I'm just excited about when I get to see the promo!

[Shamynatress]

And with this quite excellent post may we please go back to discussing Shamy? The rest of the Forum has been getting too negative let us not have that issue with this thread as well. Thank you.

On another note how did Friday's Shamy Chat go? Should we have weekly Chat's at noon PST and 6pm PST when a new episode airs the day before?

 

Hi TGP, I love the idea of the weekly chats. But the next European = noon PST one I'm gonna miss because I'm in UK. 

Thanks for organizing this 

 

Only some days left to the V-day episode! Although I think this can't get better I am really exited. AND there is a taping on tuesday. Wonderful week ahead!

[tmp]

Toward bringing it back around to the Shamy...it seems there are two episodes right together that show how Amy is almost replacing Sheldon's mother as his go-to person when something's wrong.  She quite successfully calmed him down when he was upset at the whole Kripke thing, and it seems not unrelated that he then made her his emergency contact.  The next time Leonard can't figure out how to handle Sheldon, he might just call Amy!

[Kiru Breezy]

Toward bringing it back around to the Shamy...it seems there are two episodes right together that show how Amy is almost replacing Sheldon's mother as his go-to person when something's wrong.  She quite successfully calmed him down when he was upset at the whole Kripke thing, and it seems not unrelated that he then made her his emergency contact.  The next time Leonard can't figure out how to handle Sheldon, he might just call Amy!

 

That's why I desperately want Mary Cooper to make an appearance and give Amy some encouragement to fight the good fight in her relationship.

 

I want her to say something like 'She came because she's worried that nobody has called her to deal with Sheldon recently' and they respond that they don't have to...Amy is right there.

 

Although at Comic Con, TPTB said Mary would come to town to help Amy with something. I so hope it happens because this would be the first season w/o an appearance from his mother.

[viddy9]

Toward bringing it back around to the Shamy...it seems there are two episodes right together that show how Amy is almost replacing Sheldon's mother as his go-to person when something's wrong.  She quite successfully calmed him down when he was upset at the whole Kripke thing, and it seems not unrelated that he then made her his emergency contact.  The next time Leonard can't figure out how to handle Sheldon, he might just call Amy!

I really liked how Bernadette could handle him as well. We have three characters who are capable of doing it now, although Amy will most likely be the first choice in the future.

[Kiru Breezy]

I really liked how Bernadette could handle him as well. We have three characters who are capable of doing it now, although Amy will most likely be the first choice in the future.

 

Bernadette handles Sheldon like she handles everyone else ; she snaps at them. Nothin' special really, imo. 

[viddy9]

Bernadette handles Sheldon like she handles everyone else ; she snaps at them. Nothin' special really, imo. 

Though she played into his knowledge of biochemistry in that Season 3 episode when she said 'what happens to our neuroreceptors when we don't get enough REM sleep?'

Then he went onto realize that it leads to impaired cognitive function.

She does usually yell at people these days though, or snap at them.

[koops]

Sorry I did'nt imply anything personal ( that's why I said I can only judge you by your posts ) because I don't know you and I don't know whether what you are telling the truth or not...no offense (same applies to me also )

 

I don't remember properly by I think I saw you mentioning something about the negative posts bothering you and I think I have seen you squee many times

 

As far as autism in concerned .....once here in the same thread I was involved in an argument where I was told that I should accept what the writers/actors are saying....when I said I did not agree with them.....

 

And recently in The Santa Stimulation episode we  were shown a back-story of why Sheldon does not like christmas which he actually knows a lot about and used to enjoy it as a child...because santa did not bring his beloved grandfather back.... this was one triggering event...and it was not cheap or an easy version...

 

I don't know what hollywood version is because I am mostly a bollywood person

 

I never said this is not an interesting show....but this certainly is not a character driven show....because there are many many examples where Sheldon's selfishness was the driving cause and  still Sheldon was shown as the victor...yes we were shown his emotional side sometimes...but most of the times his actions are selfish...

 

Oh don't get me wrong. I'm not saying they can't give glimpses into his past to explain why he developed certain quirks or dislikes. But it's a lot easier to explain why he hates Xmas using that kind of plot than how he developed his OCD tendencies. I really appreciate that the writers are not putting him into a box and I believe them when they say they didn't develop him with any condition in mind. People have too much of a rigid, black-or-white concept of conditions and diagnoses, it's good that they aren't putting a label on him but just dealing with him as a collection of traits. 

 

As for me squeeing, I just rant a lot. For the law of great numbers you're bound to find me squeeing more often than someone with 200 posts. But Shamy to me is like koalas to Sheldon. "I don't know what's wrong with me, I just melt inside".

 

That's why I desperately want Mary Cooper to make an appearance and give Amy some encouragement to fight the good fight in her relationship.

 

I want her to say something like 'She came because she's worried that nobody has called her to deal with Sheldon recently' and they respond that they don't have to...Amy is right there.

 

Although at Comic Con, TPTB said Mary would come to town to help Amy with something. I so hope it happens because this would be the first season w/o an appearance from his mother.

 

Yes!!! I was saying that Amy has clearly been stepping into that role and that it'd be very interesting to see Mrs Cooper come back in this context. It'd be interesting if she came into town to help Amy deal with some Sheldon-breakdown and then find that Amy actually doesn't really need her. It would be a poignant moment to see her son leave the nest in a way. 

 

I really liked how Bernadette could handle him as well. We have three characters who are capable of doing it now, although Amy will most likely be the first choice in the future.

 

"Just pet the damn bird, you big baby!!!" haha. Love that scene. 

[Razberrypie]

I go back to the main page to find that Viddy9 has taken over the forums! If that was intentional then congratulations! lol I'm sorry for tarnishing the front page with this  here post . 

 

Anyway, yes, making Amy Sheldon's EC is just another indicator of her growing role as his new carer! I think Mary will appreciate the break

[The God Particle]

Ahh yes, sorry, I should have really posted that on the 'Amy interfering with Sheldon's work' thread because as soon as I made that post in the Shamy thread I saw someone over there, speak of the devil, say that people like Sheldon don't change!! . Darn bad timing as usual! But yes, Shamy goodness! I want the VD episode so badly! I'm just excited about when I get to see the promo!

No, it is not you or anybody specifically. It is just the general tone in the other threads that is starting to drive me insane. Others have mentioned feeling the same way. I won't mention any specifics but there was a person who does not post in here that made a comment about Positive Threads getting little to no response and I immediately thought of this Thread. It is usually Hot and we usually spend a great deal of time discussing the various aspects of Sheldon and Amy's relationship. (Or Jim's bum. Whatever! ) I, like many love that about our Group!

[Shamynatress]

ahhh, Jim's Bum, now were back on topic.... 

 

I just rewatched Spoiler Alert, and although it is just a small thing, Sheldon being concerned about Amy's leg stubbles in his shower somehow cracked me up     First of all, the only leg stubbles he could have seen in the past are Missy's or his moms. And as he left for college with 11 I assume he did not see that often. And second: it is sooooo Sheldon being worried about leg stubbles and not the real issues when living together with a woman. And he must have given that some thoughts already too. LOL   Love these little tidbits 

[viddy9]

I go back to the main page to find that Viddy9 has taken over the forums! If that was intentional then congratulations! lol I'm sorry for tarnishing the front page with this  here post . 

 

Anyway, yes, making Amy Sheldon's EC is just another indicator of her growing role as his new carer! I think Mary will appreciate the break

 

It wasn't intentional at first

 

I digress though. Do you guys think that the 'juvenile amalgamation' "Shamy" would have came up if the characters on the show hadn't come up with it themselves? Or was it already being circulated?

[The God Particle]

It wasn't intentional at first

 

I digress though. Do you guys think that the 'juvenile amalgamation' "Shamy" would have came up if the characters on the show hadn't come up with it themselves? Or was it already being circulated?

Interesting question. Considering Sheldon's dominant behavior I feel Shamy as a phrase to describe them would have always come about.

 

Hi TGP, I love the idea of the weekly chats. But the next European = noon PST one I'm gonna miss because I'm in UK. 

Thanks for organizing this 

 

Only some days left to the V-day episode! Although I think this can't get better I am really exited. AND there is a taping on tuesday. Wonderful week ahead!

*Nods* Everybody does seem to enjoy them... I thought there was not a taping on Tuesday? The Valentine's Day episode shall still be good to watch though.