Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[koops]

We seem to be having the same discussion over different forums.

 

I agree. I have mixed feelings about this - on the one hand, I love that there has been so much emotional and relationship growth during this season owing to the differences between them and Sheldon's consequent introspection. But I still do miss seeing more of their 'relationship of the mind' camaraderie; we seem to see their conflict situations more often nowadays.

 

Also, as you say, we've seen almost all of the growth solely in Sheldon; we're getting to see his thought-process play out, through hints and revelations, over this arc. I think this was intentional on the part of the writers; it was established in season 5 that Amy has changed enough to want a romantic relationship with Sheldon, and is eager for it, and now it's a question of how long it takes Sheldon to catch up on that. But it does leave less time and opportunity to show what's beautiful and relaxed, in their relationship. It also leaves us a little clueless, for now, as to how much of Sheldon's emotional journey Amy is privy to. I'm hoping that they will let it be revealed to her, little by little, to her happy surprise, and that will again bring them to a more stable state of companionship.

 

Agreed. I'm all good for this season to play out the way it is playing out, if the aim was to literally have a season-long arc about Sheldon's emotional growth, if next season they can turn the page and do something different and bring them to a new stage that's something in between S4/5 and 6. I just don't want them to turn their relationship into a permanent push-and-pull relationship because, even though their push-and-pull isn't angsty at all, it's funny and enjoyable, it was never meant to be an opposites-attract type of relationship in the first place. 

 

I think they could use the summer hiatus as a turning point in a way. I was writing a superlong fic about the plot bunnies in my head (which is on hold because of the thesis right now, lol) and I had this idea of having Amy go off for the summer because her research goes awry somehow and she has to go finish it up somewhere else for the summer. I think having that distance over the summer hiatus might give a bit of a spin to the season premiere when you have her coming back, but at the same time since it happens over the summer we, as the audience, don't actually miss out on any Amy-time. In my plot bunny I actually have Sheldon not being able to take it anymore after a while and go after her, but I think for the show's sake it might be better for him to stay behind. 

 

But tbh they kept them apart alot in s5 too and they had alot of conflict too. They burnished the intellectual bond back in s4. It is necessary I think to build a level of angst between em. 

 

But don't you feel like there's a lot less of that camaraderie this year than last year? I don't disagree that a little bit of tension isn't necessary, if Sheldon gets too comfortable he's never going to go anywhere with it. But it'd be nice to have more "dogboy" moments, even if they're little and trivial. Just a sentence here and there, it doesn't take up a lot of time but it just reminds us that the intellectual bond is still there.

[rachelshamyfan]

Re the summer hiatus thing, perhaps amy will have to go to the middle east to get more funding and to end the "engagement" with faisel leaving sheldon missing her but content they she will be coming back " free" as such

[Pomita]

I just don't want them to turn their relationship into a permanent push-and-pull relationship because, even though their push-and-pull isn't angsty at all, it's funny and enjoyable, it was never meant to be an opposites-attract type of relationship in the first place.

 

Exactly. I don't mind their conflicts, and they can be very funny at times, but at some level, it needs to be clear that that's not all they're about - there was something more to them, and that something should continue to be there.

 

But it'd be nice to have more "dogboy" moments, even if they're little and trivial. Just a sentence here and there, it doesn't take up a lot of time but it just reminds us that the intellectual bond is still there.

 

And less moments like Amy staring open-mouthed at the white-board because she can't understand Sheldon's Pictionary drawings.

 

 

I like the idea of Amy going away over the hiatus. Sometimes enforced distance adds another dimension to the depth of a relationship, and the realization of need for each other. (It even happened to Leonard/Penny after season 2..)

[koops]

Exactly. I don't mind their conflicts, and they can be very funny at times, but at some level, it needs to be clear that that's not all they're about - there was something more to them, and that something should continue to be there.

 

 

And less moments like Amy staring open-mouthed at the white-board because she can't understand Sheldon's Pictionary drawings.

 

Ugh! Don't get me started on that. I hate that episode. With 6x11 it's my least favorite of this season. There are a couple of brilliant scenes (Where's Waldo and the real-life-operation joke) but the rest of it is just a big facepalm to me. 

[saweco]

The hug from the promo looks pretty awesome. Sheldon's smile is adorable before he's tackled by Amy. I got a bit obsessive about it and paused it so I could see Amy's face and she looked like she was happy crying. I think I remember reading from the taping report that she does tear up. So adorable. 

[Pomita]

Ugh! Don't get me started on that. I hate that episode. With 6x11 it's my least favorite of this season. There are a couple of brilliant scenes (Where's Waldo and the real-life-operation joke) but the rest of it is just a big facepalm to me. 

 

I liked the episode, except for Amy's cluelessness and the pie-eating at the end which was a little OTT for me. I did love the Sheldon/Leonard interactions during Pictionary. 'Unidentified Flying Liverwurst'. And also Sheldon's collapse during the long-division.

 

 

Cannot wait to see the promo. Why can't I see it at work?

Edited February 11, 2013 by Pomita

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Loving the idea of Amy having to go away over the summer hiatus.  Sheldon might be so happy when she gets back that he kisses her.

[Kiru Breezy]

IMO, the intellectual bond is what kicked off their relationship, so I think they are decidedly NOT showing it,  because we all know and everyone knows thats how their relationship started. 

 

But now they are dealing with the decidedly more complicated stuff....emotions and physical attractions. The intellectual bond b/w them is solid, its everything else that needs work and I don't feel alot of conflict this season, there is a tension in the air...and I LOVE it. Their arguments in s5 were alot more petty and trivial and they've only had 2 big blow-ups this season and the issues are decidedly more meaty.

 

I guess what I'm saying is, I'm all for Counterfactuals...but we all know thats where it is based upon and we see it now and then but I'm all for the conflict and tension to push them forward. 

 

And I LOVED that episode the Re-Entry Minimization, my 2nd fave after Parking Spot. I guess I'm not bothered at those minor things...the big picture is all I'm about tbh.

Edited February 11, 2013 by Kiru Breezy

[Madame Medusa]

eta: If someone goes to Comic Con this year, can they please ask TPTB to burn that green cardigan and the yellow one? Please?

 

We really need to introduce you and Lio somehow.

 

The fact that Amy didn't understand Sheldon's Pictionary drawing is one of the major lines I'd rewrite this season. That and the random fact that she apparently tricked some guy into kissing her once. I have to admit that I preferred seeing her the same as Sheldon - never been kissed. It's how I viewed their whole kiss back in season 4, and partly her motivation to do it in the first place. If someone reminds me of those two events I think I'll stick my fingers in my ears and just go LALALALAALALALALALAALAA>

Edited February 11, 2013 by Madame Medusa

[koops]

Apologies for the massive multiquote post I'm about to do! lol.

 

The hug from the promo looks pretty awesome. Sheldon's smile is adorable before he's tackled by Amy. I got a bit obsessive about it and paused it so I could see Amy's face and she looked like she was happy crying. I think I remember reading from the taping report that she does tear up. So adorable. 

 

I confess I've done the same. I don't think we've ever seen him smile that way at her. He seems so happy she's happy, I don't think we've ever seen Sheldon being happy about pleasing another person.

 

eta: I don't know what it is, but am I the only one who's getting some sort of new vibe from them watching that promo? It just feels very... grown up? I don't know how to describe it.

 

Loving the idea of Amy having to go away over the summer hiatus.  Sheldon might be so happy when she gets back that he kisses her.

 

Yes, that's what I think. Or that even in the season finale they might take her to the airport or something and he suddenly has this urge of holding her before she goes. 

 

IMO, the intellectual bond is what kicked off their relationship, so I think they are decidedly NOT showing it,  because we all know and everyone knows thats how their relationship started. 

 

But now they are dealing with the decidedly more complicated stuff....emotions and physical attractions. The intellectual bond b/w them is solid, its everything else that needs work and I don't feel alot of conflict this season, there is a tension in the air...and I LOVE it. Their arguments in s5 were alot more petty and trivial and they've only had 2 big blow-ups this season and the issues are decidedly more meaty.

 

I guess what I'm saying is, I'm all for Counterfactuals...but we all know thats where it is based upon and we see it now and then but I'm all for the conflict and tension to push them forward. 

 

And I LOVED that episode the Re-Entry Minimization, my 2nd fave after Parking Spot. I guess I'm not bothered at those minor things...the big picture is all I'm about tbh.

 

I'm not saying I want them to have scenes where they play counterfactuals again and I am all for the more "meaty" stuff right now, all I'm saying is that it can be "meaty" whilst showing that the intellectual bond is still very much present. Like I said, all it takes is one line like the dogboy line. They can have other episodes with blow-outs too. But it has been a long time since we last saw them showcasing that quirky chemistry and to be honest, as much as I totally agree that the intellectual bond has been established and they don't need to drill it in our heads every episode, I can't fault people for not seeing their bond as that intellectual romance any longer if they never show it on screen. You know what I mean?

 

6x04 annoyed me because they had a great opportunity to do just that. Have the couple of weirdos vs Lenny and either have them win all the games because of their chemistry or lose them all because they're too convoluted for that. Instead they went with the cliche' "Sheldon's weird, nobody gets him" kind of laughs. Yes, there were funny scenes here and there, but to me the fact that Amy would stare at Sheldon's drawings like she can't understand what's going on and get all of Penny's is way too much of a change from a character who invented a game nobody else on the planet gets but the two of them.

 

I do see the big picture, but to me the big picture shouldn't just be Step 1 = done, move on, Step 2 = done, move on, Step 3 = done... etc. It should be Step 1, add Step 2, add Step 3 etc. Of course the more steps you add the less time you can spend on each and it's fine to have a season focusing more on the recent steps than the previous ones. Which is why I'd never say I'd rather they'd be playing counterfactuals than growing emotionally. 

 

We really need to introduce you and Lio somehow.

 

The fact that Amy didn't understand Sheldon's Pictionary drawing is one of the major lines I'd rewrite this season. That and the random fact that she apparently tricked some guy into kissing her once. I have to admit that I preferred seeing her the same as Sheldon - never been kissed. It's how I viewed their whole kiss back in season 4, and partly her motivation to do it in the first place. If someone reminds me of those two events I think I'll stick my fingers in my ears and just go LALALALAALALALALALAALAA>

 

lol. who's Lio?

 

The other line that bothered me in that episode is that she passed out at a frat party. She's meant to have never touched alcohol before meeting Penny and she gets drunk at a frat party? The continuity was all over the place in that episode. I don't mind it that Sheldon wasn't her first kiss at much but that, and the line about finding someone to hook up with in the club, as much as it was a throw-away line, really bugged me. But I blame it on the trio from hell for writing it lol. 

Edited February 11, 2013 by spook

[saweco]

Apologies for the massive multiquote post I'm about to do! lol.

 

 

I confess I've done the same. I don't think we've ever seen him smile that way at her. He seems so happy she's happy, I don't think we've ever seen Sheldon being happy about pleasing another person.

 

eta: I don't know what it is, but am I the only one who's getting some sort of new vibe from them watching that promo? It just feels very... grown up? I don't know how to describe it.

 

 

Yes, that's what I think. Or that even in the season finale they might take her to the airport or something and he suddenly has this urge of holding her before she goes. 

 

 

I'm not saying I want them to have scenes where they play counterfactuals again and I am all for the more "meaty" stuff right now, all I'm saying is that it can be "meaty" whilst showing that the intellectual bond is still very much present. Like I said, all it takes is one line like the dogboy line. They can have other episodes with blow-outs too. But it has been a long time since we last saw them showcasing that quirky chemistry and to be honest, as much as I totally agree that the intellectual bond has been established and they don't need to drill it in our heads every episode, I can't fault people for not seeing their bond as that intellectual romance any longer if they never show it on screen. You know what I mean?

 

6x04 annoyed me because they had a great opportunity to do just that. Have the couple of weirdos vs Lenny and either have them win all the games because of their chemistry or lose them all because they're too convoluted for that. Instead they went with the cliche' "Sheldon's weird, nobody gets him" kind of laughs. Yes, there were funny scenes here and there, but to me the fact that Amy would stare at Sheldon's drawings like she can't understand what's going on and get all of Penny's is way too much of a change from a character who invented a game nobody else on the planet gets but the two of them.

 

I do see the big picture, but to me the big picture shouldn't just be Step 1 = done, move on, Step 2 = done, move on, Step 3 = done... etc. It should be Step 1, add Step 2, add Step 3 etc. Of course the more steps you add the less time you can spend on each and it's fine to have a season focusing more on the recent steps than the previous ones. Which is why I'd never say I'd rather they'd be playing counterfactuals than growing emotionally. 

 

 

lol. who's Lio?

 

The other line that bothered me in that episode is that she passed out at a frat party. She's meant to have never touched alcohol before meeting Penny and she gets drunk at a frat party? The continuity was all over the place in that episode. I don't mind it that Sheldon wasn't her first kiss at much but that, and the line about finding someone to hook up with in the club, as much as it was a throw-away line, really bugged me. But I blame it on the trio from hell for writing it lol. 

 

I had never thought about the frat party or hook-up lines before. They truly are the trio from hell.  I have to admit I laughed out loud at the "I woke up with MORE clothes on" bit. But looking back, it really did show a complete "to hell with continuity" attitude on the part of the writers. Go for the easy laugh at the expense of continuity? That's disappointing. 

[Madame Medusa]

Which ones are the trio from hell, btw?

[koops]

I had never thought about the frat party or hook-up lines before. They truly are the trio from hell.  I have to admit I laughed out loud at the "I woke up with MORE clothes on" bit. But looking back, it really did show a complete "to hell with continuity" attitude on the part of the writers. Go for the easy laugh at the expense of continuity? That's disappointing. 

 

They do that all the time though. Just some times it's more noticeable than others. Other example: Amy in the Zach ep was kind of implying she had never been aroused before in her life, yet in 4x01 she talks about the experiments stimulating the pleasure centers of the brain and two or three eps after the Zach eps she tells Penny she has tips about "techniques for ladies". I usually don't mind much, just some lapses of continuity bug me more than others. 

 

Which ones are the trio from hell, btw?

 

Lorre, Kaplan and Holland. Although 6x15 came out much better than I expected, thank goodness. But they have a flare for the dramatic/jerk version of the characters when they write together.

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Spook, I see what you mean about the grown-up vibe.  Some of it is probably because of the suit, but I can't quite put my finger on the rest of it.  Just to play devil's advocate, could the smile be not because she liked her gift but because he liked his?  I hope it's some of both.

 

Since we're talking about favorite quirky scenes, this one was in Leonard's imagination so I don't know if it counts, but in The Recombination Hypothesis L/P are fighting and Amy leans in to Sheldon and says, "In deference to them, let's not flaunt our happy relationship."  Sheldon replies, "You have a keen insight into the human heart, Amy Farrah Fowler."  They have serious eye coitus in that scene, admiration is dripping from his voice, and they both see the social situation in the same odd way.  It's one of my all-time favorite Shamy moments.

[koops]

Spook, I see what you mean about the grown-up vibe.  Some of it is probably because of the suit, but I can't quite put my finger on the rest of it.  Just to play devil's advocate, could the smile be not because she liked her gift but because he liked his?  I hope it's some of both.

 

Since we're talking about favorite quirky scenes, this one was in Leonard's imagination so I don't know if it counts, but in The Recombination Hypothesis L/P are fighting and Amy leans in to Sheldon and says, "In deference to them, let's not flaunt our happy relationship."  Sheldon replies, "You have a keen insight into the human heart, Amy Farrah Fowler."  They have serious eye coitus in that scene, admiration is dripping from his voice, and they both see the social situation in the same odd way.  It's one of my all-time favorite Shamy moments.

 

I don't know, it's something about how they're greeting each other at the door that gives me the new vibe, rather than anything else. Actually, now that I think about it, and it might be way too soon to say this, but dare I say it's the first time there might actually be some sexual tension there? 

 

As for the TRH scene, I agree, it's a great scene. It's kind of funny if that's the way Leonard sees them though, if you think about it. 

[silverangel]

I don't know, it's something about how they're greeting each other at the door that gives me the new vibe, rather than anything else. Actually, now that I think about it, and it might be way too soon to say this, but dare I say it's the first time there might actually be some sexual tension there? 

 

As for the TRH scene, I agree, it's a great scene. It's kind of funny if that's the way Leonard sees them though, if you think about it. 

Yes i agree it's something in the way she looks at him and it is in their eyes  when she come's to him, and how they are happy when they hug each other especially Amy, look at her smile, and Sheldon let her hug him and pull him to herself 

[rachelshamyfan]

I love that scene in the cheese cake factory!

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I don't know, it's something about how they're greeting each other at the door that gives me the new vibe, rather than anything else. Actually, now that I think about it, and it might be way too soon to say this, but dare I say it's the first time there might actually be some sexual tension there? 

 

As for the TRH scene, I agree, it's a great scene. It's kind of funny if that's the way Leonard sees them though, if you think about it. 

 

I know what you mean.  She's staring straight into his eyes while, with husky voice, wishing him happy V-day.  That's a recipe for sexual tension.

[The God Particle]

I know what you mean.  She's staring straight into his eyes while, with husky voice, wishing him happy V-day.  That's a recipe for sexual tension.

*Laughs* What would sexual tension even look like with these two? *Ponders*

[koops]

I know what you mean.  She's staring straight into his eyes while, with husky voice, wishing him happy V-day.  That's a recipe for sexual tension.

 

It's not just her though, in the Canadian promo, the way he says "Hello". Same thing.

 

*Laughs* What would sexual tension even look like with these two? *Ponders*

 

TGP, you can only say sexual tension using a font 10 at this stage. It's too early to use font 12.

[The God Particle]

It's not just her though, in the Canadian promo, the way he says "Hello". Same thing.

 

 

TGP, you can only say sexual tension using a font 10 at this stage. It's too early to use font 12.

As tired and ill as I am I totally misunderstood that.  

[stardustmelody]

Late to the game here but some comments.

1.  Love the promo and the look Sheldon give her before she grabs him (and her look as well)...well it just melts the heart, does it not?   

2.  Love the idea of a summer hiatus story where it ends up that they kiss when she returns.

3.  I too did not care for her not picking up on the clue in the Pictionary episode.   I always felt that was out of character, that she would immediately have known what Sheldon was drawing and just play coy because she was on the opposite team and wanted them to win.  I would have had her knowing what he was drawing but torturing he and Leonard by making it clear she knew through body language.

4.  I too did not care for the "bargained for" kiss she had...in fact that whole episode was one of my least favorites this season because of the bar scene.  While I though it was rather cute having she and Raj bond a little, I would have rather they had changed the dialog to be more consistent with her character.   I am like Madam Medusa in that I prefer that she was like Sheldon and that he was her first kiss (as she is his).

5.  This season has been about showing a relationship that is going to the next stage.  Often relationships start out all starry eyed and exciting, then they move to the growing either together or apart stage, where the relationship gets tested and if you pass the tests then you are likely going to make it.  However, because this couple never started out starry eyed, it has been a bit stranger to have them in that "growing together or apart" stage.   They are growing together, which is a good thing, instead of apart, but it also is leading to more "starry eyed" behavior in the future I think because they never had that.  They were about the mind and sure they did the eye-coitus thing, but there was never this "Oh I can't wait to see her/him" kind of behavior."   I think they will get to that in one of the upcoming seasons.   They never follow convention so they may mix up the stages a bit.   Also what makes them different is that they have built a foundation before moving to the lovey-dovey stage.  This strengthens them for longevity.   I still contend that once Sheldon can get over his aversion to touch, he is going to be a wild cat with Amy.     I think his innuendo and comments about sex this season have shown that he can truly be whimsically inventive      and we all know he said from his own mouth that he is expecting frequency and expects things to be magical.  So....I think we have a future unleashing of the boy ahead. 

[Razberrypie]

For some reason I imagine Amy and Sheldon getting a little competetive with each other at some point, and get heated up with snarky scientific trash talk that only they can understand along with the eye coitus and everything. That would create some sexual tension I'd like to see...

[The God Particle]

For some reason I imagine Amy and Sheldon getting a little competetive with each other at some point, and get heated up with snarky scientific trash talk that only they can understand along with the eye coitus and everything. That would create some sexual tension I'd like to see...

 

And this has entered my top 10 of Things I'd Like Shamy To Do Together List!

[bigbangsheldon]

i think there has been lots of sexual tension in the shamy realtionship over the years i feel it a lot in the eye-sex epseically in TSTM and maybe even the spanking sene when theyre sitting on the couch before you kniow