Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[Retroluv]

Hmm...in the promo I watched there was no "hello." It began with Amy saying "Happy Valentine's Day." Weird that there are so many different versions out there.

I definitely feel like the whole tone/feel of their relationship has changed dramatically this season. There is a maturity and seriousness there that I did not detect at all in S4-5. For the first time, Sheldon seems to be thinking about the needs and desires of someone other than himself.

It seriously gives me butterflies just thinking about where this is headed...and what we're going to get to see in the very near future

Edited February 12, 2013 by Retroluv

[Retroluv]

Also wanted to point out that even though Sheldon claims he doesn't care about hurting others' feelings, he had that "Penny, please don't hurt my friend" scene at the beginning of the season. So, yeah, he's changed whether he knows/likes it or not.

[vasu]

Also wanted to point out that even though Sheldon claims he doesn't care about hurting others' feelings, he had that "Penny, please don't hurt my friend" scene at the beginning of the season. So, yeah, he's changed whether he knows/likes it or not.

 

Well he also said "Throw him out , break his heart" in the last episode...

lets just say that his fear of Amy living with him just made him say that

[shamylove]

Hmm...in the promo I watched there was no "hello." It began with Amy saying "Happy Valentine's Day." Weird that there are so many different versions out there.

I definitely feel like the whole tone/feel of their relationship has changed dramatically this season. There is a maturity and seriousness there that I did not detect at all in S4-5. For the first time, Sheldon seems to be thinking about the needs and desires of someone other than himself.

It seriously gives me butterflies just thinking about where this is headed...and what we're going to get to see in the very near future . The Shamy love story is like an old brandy: it gains depth and richness and flavor over time, and it's meant to be savored and enjoyed very, very slowly, but it's oh so good!

Sorry for rambling on with these vague thoughts and observations. Just had to get that off my chest.

Love reading everyone's analyses, reactions, etc.! You are all so eloquent. Bunch of very smart cookies in here.

 

Nicely put! I totally agreee. The Shamy is no cheap wine - to mix alcohol metaphors.

 

I do think Sheldon thinks he knows every feeling he has, but hasn't wrapped his head around how much he is changing or his intensity of his feelings towards Amy. I imagine the realization would slightly terrify him. And, I would love to see that realization by him. I would also like to see Amy's realization that even though she talks a big game, she's scared of what getting physical is really like, as opposed to her daydreams/fantasies of being with Sheldon. (I suppose some of us may have had these thoughts too. lol unless that's just me)

 

Anyway, I'm enjoying the depth of their relationship and clearly looking forward to more. 

[shamylove]

Also, I don't know where this fits on the threads, but when watching the voicemail scene between Amy and Sheldon I noticed the following:

 

Amy hands Sheldon the piece of paper to read off the vm message. Sheldon holds his food in his left hand and the paper in his right.

They say "leave a message" in unison and Amy leans in.

Amy says "beep" and Sheldon says " you can't live here" while Sheldon holds his food in his right hand and the paper in his left.

Then Amy responds to him saying she can't live there and Sheldon holds the food in his left hand and the paper in his right as she takes it from him.

 

They must have liked the version of her "beep" and his adorable "you can't live here" from an alternate take. 

 

These are things you notice when you watch the same scene sooooooooooo many times. It was flat out adorable. I've never found a continuity/editing mistake before and I totally don't mind. But, I wondered if anyone else caught that.

[stardustmelody]

Nicely put! I totally agreee. The Shamy is no cheap wine - to mix alcohol metaphors.

 

I do think Sheldon thinks he knows every feeling he has, but hasn't wrapped his head around how much he is changing or his intensity of his feelings towards Amy. I imagine the realization would slightly terrify him. And, I would love to see that realization by him. I would also like to see Amy's realization that even though she talks a big game, she's scared of what getting physical is really like, as opposed to her daydreams/fantasies of being with Sheldon. (I suppose some of us may have had these thoughts too. lol unless that's just me)

 

Anyway, I'm enjoying the depth of their relationship and clearly looking forward to more. 

 

Agree, I would love for Amy to realize that her talk is cheap, and for her to actually get scared when he does seem ready to make some moves.    Of course, she can be scared,but still not scare him off.       I also think Sheldon knows he is in love with Amy but is struggling internally about it.  He has a plan put in place that he is working, which  stems from his knowledge that he loves her.  But I think as you said, he is not aware of the depth of his feelings, or if he is, he is trying to ignore them because they scare him.   

 

I agree they are like a fine wine that is aging perfectly and will have a beautiful bouquet and taste when the bottle is finally opened.   I think we all have our glasses ready and cannot wait to taste. 

[MJistheBOMB]

Also, I don't know where this fits on the threads, but when watching the voicemail scene between Amy and Sheldon I noticed the following:

 

Amy hands Sheldon the piece of paper to read off the vm message. Sheldon holds his food in his left hand and the paper in his right.

They say "leave a message" in unison and Amy leans in.

Amy says "beep" and Sheldon says " you can't live here" while Sheldon holds his food in his right hand and the paper in his left.

Then Amy responds to him saying she can't live there and Sheldon holds the food in his left hand and the paper in his right as she takes it from him.

 

They must have liked the version of her "beep" and his adorable "you can't live here" from an alternate take. 

 

These are things you notice when you watch the same scene sooooooooooo many times. It was flat out adorable. I've never found a continuity/editing mistake before and I totally don't mind. But, I wondered if anyone else caught that.

 

You have a good eye. I hadn't noticed. LOL.

 

Here's an interesting bit I did notice from going to the taping: the scene where we see Mrs. Wolowitz walking by the door in the kitchen. At the taping, Kellee (Kyzzx) and I where discussing the fact that characters make such a huge deal (no pun intended) about how huge Mrs. Wolorwitz is but that actress who was walking back and forth wasn't that large at all!

 

When the episode aired, I realized they must have done some editing on her because Mrs. Wolorwitz was WAAAAY bigger. LOL. I had to text Kellee to ask her if she noticed that she was bigger as well. LOL. They did a good job.

 

Monique

Edited February 12, 2013 by MJistheBOMB

[stardustmelody]

You have a good eye. I hadn't noticed. LOL.

 

Here's an interesting bit I did notice from going to the taping: the scene where we see Mrs. Wolowitz walking by the door in the kitchen. At the taping, Kellee (Kyzzx) and I where discussing the fact that characters make such a huge deal (no pun intended) about how huge Mrs. Wolorwitz is but that actress who was walking back and forth wasn't that large at at!

 

When the episode aired, I realized the must have done some editing on her because Mrs. Wolorwitz was WAAAAY bigger. LOL. I had to text Kellee to ask her if she noticed that she was bigger as well. LOL. They did a good job.

 

Monique

 

 

I wondered because the third time she walked by, you could see her dark hair and I knew it was probably the woman who did the voice based on the hair, but I knew she was way smaller than what was walking by.   They really did do a good job in editing.  The other possibility is that they had her wear a "fat suit" and used green screen and edited it in that way. I am actually glad they represented her as huge because they constantly talk about her being huge.  It made it more in keeping with their descriptions.

[MJistheBOMB]

I just saw this for the first time:

 

[MJistheBOMB]

Anyway, I better get to bed. It's nearly midnight and I don't have many hours asleep ahead before I have to wake up and drive to LA tomorrow for my long day of waiting to see if I get into the taping. LOL.

 

 

Good night beautiful people :-).

[Kazziedal]

Well he also said "Throw him out , break his heart" in the last episode...

lets just say that his fear of Amy living with him just made him say that

you know when I watched that scene It sounded to me like he put a slight emphases on the word HIM. Like he didn't want to throw Amy out and break HER heart. Did anyone else notice that?

Edited February 12, 2013 by Kazziedal

[koops]

Good morning people!

 

I just saw this for the first time:

 

 

I saw that a while ago. It's a very interesting interview but at the same time it makes me sad that she is aware she has a lot of haters. When she talks about how people were annoyed at Amy being introduced and Sheldon having to stay the same, it sounds to me like she's done the rounds online, and we know she's very active online so it's not surprising. I just hope she knows there's far more people who love her than haters.

 

Have fun at the taping Monique!

 

eta: Now that she's mentioned Tara, she's only written one ep this season so far, hasn't she? Maybe they're saving her for the last few eps of the season 

 

you know when I watched that scene It sounded to me like he put a slight emphases on the word HIM. Like he didn't want to trow Amy out and break her heart. Did anyone else notice that?

 

I think the whole episode he was just trying to find a way not to take responsibility for the situation because he wasn't comfortable admitting that the only reason he didn't want to live with her was an emotional reason, not a logical one. It kind of connects to what people were discussing earlier, that I think he might even be aware that he loves her but when you spend your whole life telling others feelings are just hippy-dippy things and don't concern you it's difficult to come out and admit you have them because people will just latch onto it and tease you endlessly.

Edited February 12, 2013 by spook

[silverangel]

Agree, I would love for Amy to realize that her talk is cheap, and for her to actually get scared when he does seem ready to make some moves.    Of course, she can be scared,but still not scare him off.       I also think Sheldon knows he is in love with Amy but is struggling internally about it.  He has a plan put in place that he is working, which  stems from his knowledge that he loves her.  But I think as you said, he is not aware of the depth of his feelings, or if he is, he is trying to ignore them because they scare him.   

 

I agree they are like a fine wine that is aging perfectly and will have a beautiful bouquet and taste when the bottle is finally opened.   I think we all have our glasses ready and cannot wait to taste. 

I agree. very  well  said. He's scared of this overwhelming feelings  because  he feels something he was rejecting all the time, something of which  he  mocked,   and for him it was a primitive needs, and right now  feels this primitive needs. He tries to fight it at all costs because he don't want to be like normal people,  he want's  to be just exceptional, one in a milion drops. Just like in the episode The rhinitis revelation season 5  he talked  to Amy about the feelings of ordinary people, and  at all costs  he didn't want to be like normal people, and for him sexual needs and love were unnecessary and not important he was beyond this and now he feels love, desire and most off all he really like it,  and it scares him. He feels that he loves Amy, I feel sexual tension, because of it he  was afraid to live with Amy,  because he knows  that he is not ready for this, not their relationship, he isn't ready, because he need to overcome fear.  And his feelings for Amy will be stronger and like tasting wine he will slowly enjoy a taste  of love and lust.

[silverangel]

Good morning people!

 

 

I saw that a while ago. It's a very interesting interview but at the same time it makes me sad that she is aware she has a lot of haters. When she talks about how people were annoyed at Amy being introduced and Sheldon having to stay the same, it sounds to me like she's done the rounds online, and we know she's very active online so it's not surprising. I just hope she knows there's far more people who love her than haters.

 

Have fun at the taping Monique!

 

eta: Now that she's mentioned Tara, she's only written one ep this season so far, hasn't she? Maybe they're saving her for the last few eps of the season 

 

 

I think the whole episode he was just trying to find a way not to take responsibility for the situation because he wasn't comfortable admitting that the only reason he didn't want to live with her was an emotional reason, not a logical one. It kind of connects to what people were discussing earlier, that I think he might even be aware that he loves her but when you spend your whole life telling others feelings are just hippy-dippy things and don't concern you it's difficult to come out and admit you have them because people will just latch onto it and tease you endlessly.

 Good mornig!!

 

I saw this for the first time too.  Yes it's really sad, that people hate her character. How it's possible?  As she said, their relationship will not change Sheldon,and thanks to this  we will be able to watch the whole kaleidoscope of emotions that  will appear in him, and that's the beauty of it.  And for him it is just as important as the science.

Really great interview..Thanks Moniqe. Sweet dreams

Have fun on taping :D

Edited February 12, 2013 by silverangelD

[koops]

To be honest the other thing that annoys me about this whole "sheltered Sheldon" thing is that I wish they were half as protective of the other characters as they are of him. I know he's the most popular character on the show, but, like we were saying yesterday, they're sometimes really careless with some of the Amy continuity if they need a plot device and, as an Amy fan, that annoys me. I wish they realized that the world doesn't begin and end with Sheldon purists and be a bit more attentive with the other characters too.

[Razberrypie]

^^ Agree, I love Amy just as much as Sheldon and sometimes, even if they just give her a line to fit with the scene I struggle at times to stop thinking about it and how it has affected her character even though it wasn't intended that way.

 

After watching that interview with Mayim I just love her even more, she's really behind this character and her relationship with Sheldon and has good insights into them, despite being a much newer member of the cast. Just the tone of her voice makes me feel more confident . Screw the haters, now that she knows she was right about Sheldon's character not being destroyed I hope that she knows she has a load more fans, including myself.

[Pomita]

It seriously gives me butterflies just thinking about where this is headed...and what we're going to get to see in the very near future . The Shamy love story is like an old brandy: it gains depth and richness and flavor over time, and it's meant to be savored and enjoyed very, very slowly, but it's oh so good!

 

So well put.

 

I found Sheldon's 'throw him out, break his heart' funny, because it showed that right from then, he was trying to fob off the responsibility of sorting out the situation onto Penny, telling her to do something to Leonard which he himself couldn't do and didn't want to do to Amy. 

 

The amount of hate Amy/Mayim got initially was remarkable. But I do believe that at this point the majority of people love her character and are rooting for the Sheldon/Amy relationship. The huge popularity of the show right now, her Emmy nomination and the great numbers Shamy gets in almost every online poll about TV couples indicates that things have changed. I only hope Mayim knows and sees it, she didn't deserve that kind of hate.

Edited February 12, 2013 by Pomita

[shamylove]

omg, I just love her! I hope she's ignoring any haters and realizes how many people love her.

 

Monique, that's interesting about the Mrs. Wolowitz swap. They really are masters of editing!

 

Have a great time at the taping!

[silverangel]

To be honest the other thing that annoys me about this whole "sheltered Sheldon" thing is that I wish they were half as protective of the other characters as they are of him. I know he's the most popular character on the show, but, like we were saying yesterday, they're sometimes really careless with some of the Amy continuity if they need a plot device and, as an Amy fan, that annoys me. I wish they realized that the world doesn't begin and end with Sheldon purists and be a bit more attentive with the other characters too.

Maybe you're right but,  I watched The Big Bang Theory Access all areas. And Chuck Lore said there that Mayim is important expert in neurobiology  for them, for the  writers and she often give them instructions in that matter. He said that they all are great actors and he is lucky to have them.

For the haters yes screw them We love her and I believe there's more people withe so much  love  for  her

Edited February 12, 2013 by silverangelD

[koops]

Maybe you're right but,  I watched The Big Bang Theory Access all areas. And Chuck Lore said there that Mayim is important expert in neurobiology  for them, for the  writers and she often give them instructions in that matter. He said that they all are great actors and he is lucky to have them.

For the haters yes screw them We love her and I believe there's more people withe so much  love  for  her

 

I'm not saying the don't value the actors, but I do think they worry more about how people will react to any Sheldon action than any of the other characters. Take Raj for example. He was one of the original 5 and only now he is finally getting his own storyline. For the last season or two he was relegated to a pathetic plot device to make sexual innuendos and whine about being alone. They don't worry about the reactions they may get about that as much as they worry about Sheldon, imo. I'm not saying they should be less protective of Sheldon, but to be just as protective of the others.

[silverangel]

I'm not saying the don't value the actors, but I do think they worry more about how people will react to any Sheldon action than any of the other characters. Take Raj for example. He was one of the original 5 and only now he is finally getting his own storyline. For the last season or two he was relegated to a pathetic plot device to make sexual innuendos and whine about being alone. They don't worry about the reactions they may get about that as much as they worry about Sheldon, imo. I'm not saying they should be less protective of Sheldon, but to be just as protective of the others.

Yes, regardless of this that I'm very big fan of Sheldon and have big crush on Jim , that is something in it. They all  complement each other. Take Howard. His character is not so easy to play it was even more difficult before Bernadette. I'm not saying that Bernadette is not important but I'm just saying that they all  should be  appreciated equally, and Amy should be viewed not only from the emotional side, but also from the professional as Sheldon and Howard to show something more, whole rainbow of colors of  Amy, and I'm sure that the writers can find in this situation a lot of funny moments. They have their own storyline more often, like Howard in space that Raj should get something more, They all have to be more visible and  would thus satisfy the fans because every character brings balance and they learn  something from each other.

Edited February 12, 2013 by silverangelD

[shamylove]

Since Leonard and Sheldon are the leads, I'm okay with them having a little more screentime. But, I do agree that each character adds to the flow and balance. Each character deserves to be considered special and given attention. Raj's story is a long time coming and I'm really happy Kunal will have something to work with. 

 

And on a Shamy note - I agree that Amy is important too. I'm just as interested in her character as I am in Sheldon and I hope the writers take note that she has quite a following.

[koops]

Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. I'm not talking about attention in terms of screentime or storylines. I'm talking about attention in terms of character consistency and details. There's a great focus on making sure Sheldon isn't "ruined" but not as much focus is being paid to the other characters, imo. 

[silverangel]

Also, I don't know where this fits on the threads, but when watching the voicemail scene between Amy and Sheldon I noticed the following:

 

Amy hands Sheldon the piece of paper to read off the vm message. Sheldon holds his food in his left hand and the paper in his right.

They say "leave a message" in unison and Amy leans in.

Amy says "beep" and Sheldon says " you can't live here" while Sheldon holds his food in his right hand and the paper in his left.

Then Amy responds to him saying she can't live there and Sheldon holds the food in his left hand and the paper in his right as she takes it from him.

 

They must have liked the version of her "beep" and his adorable "you can't live here" from an alternate take. 

 

These are things you notice when you watch the same scene sooooooooooo many times. It was flat out adorable. I've never found a continuity/editing mistake before and I totally don't mind. But, I wondered if anyone else caught that.

I watched it to check it and you're right. I haven't notice it before. First, he holds food in left hand, paper in right, and when he says you can't leave

here a food is in his right hand and paper in left. I bet they had to repeat the scene knowing Jim and Mayim they were a lot of fun in that scene :icon_razz:

Edited February 12, 2013 by silverangelD

[silverangel]

Maybe I'm not explaining myself well. I'm not talking about attention in terms of screentime or storylines. I'm talking about attention in terms of character consistency and details. There's a great focus on making sure Sheldon isn't "ruined" but not as much focus is being paid to the other characters, imo. 

That's what I meant. Showing Amy and others from the diferent sides, paying more atention on details, because they balance one another, They learn so much from each other. And all lead characters are  equally important.