Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[Retroluv]

http://m.etonline.com/tv/130836_Big_Bang_Stars_Jim_Parsons_Mayim_Bialik_Dish_on_Sheldon_Amy_s_Romance/index.html

I find it interesting that ET assumes Shamy's "sexy time" will commence at the end of this season. Nice to hear Jim confirm that the relationship is, indeed, headed towards physical intimacy, but I think the idea of an end-of-season encounter seems pretty far-fetched at this point.

Jim also comments on the increased amount of Shamy touching this season, which counters what we've all observed.

I feel like the actors tend to represent the viewpoint of the writers (though they may not be privvy to long-term story arcs). Do we take this to mean that the writers aren't aware of the impression they are leaving us with when Sheldon still, after 2 years of dating, can't hug his girlfriend without a look of exxasperation?

I have a feeling TPTB don't put as much thought into these thing as we do. Could be carelessness...

What do you guys think? Are they holding him back on purpose or are they simply failing to communicate the subtext as intended (that Sheldon is stepping it up this season and moving towards intimacy)?

Edited February 24, 2013 by Retroluv

[stardustmelody]

I do think the writers have a different impression than the fans do about the frequency and "acceptance" of the touching.  Yes, you could argue they did a couple of hugs this season, even though both were awkward and not terribly comfortably received.   Likewise we saw one hand holding, but that is not what fans expect for a couple that is nearing three years of dating.      The one exception was his caring for Amy which was a bit in left field until we learned he was purposefully trying to work on "touch".   So I do think there is a bit of a disconnect there. 

 

There seems to be more knowledge about where Sheldon is at and that is a good thing, but honestly Shamy haven't had many actual "together" scenes this season and for many of them one or the other were upset.  It wasn't all warm and fuzzy, especially in the early part of the season.  So while we have witnessed significant growth on Sheldon's part, and a bit of a "backing off" on Amy's part, we haven't seen a huge amount of sweet moments of touching.  We took them as sweet because we are desperate for anything, but honestly it will start to become ridiculous if they don't start to step it up slightly and make it truly more natural for a couple that is romantically involved and have been dating for three years and are in their mid-30's even if they are virgins. 

Edited February 24, 2013 by stardustmelody

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They just about have to do something physical this season, though sex is still a long way off.  I posted on another thread that a plausible way to get to a hug or kiss is that Sheldon is inspired to push himself further by seeing Raj make progress getting over his issues.

 

There has been a lot of talk about how to keep Sheldon Sheldon while still progressing him with Amy.  A couple of times lately when he has been tender with her, the writers seem to go out of their way to show him being the same egomaniac with other people.  One way to keep him within character might be to gradually put Amy in the same category with his mother and Meemaw of people who are exceptions to the way he interacts with everybody else. 

[MJistheBOMB]

Why is it that it only seems like they've hugged only once this season and not twice like I keep reading? LOL.

 

Anyway, I agree that they need to step it up.

[tmp]

Why is it that it only seems like they've hugged only once this season and not twice like I keep reading? LOL.

 

Anyway, I agree that they need to step it up.

 

Do you count Amy's consoling hug as one of them?

[MJistheBOMB]

That's the one I was missing! Thanks! Hahaha. Pretty sad that I forget as much as we talk about these things and the fact that I watched it live. LOL.

[shamylove]

Hey, I have a new one shot fanfiction up.

 

http://www.fanfiction.net/s/9040838/1/Brain-Activity-Map-Project

 

Based on exciting real life science news and the injustice of the monkey poop incident.

I really enjoyed this! Great premise! I could see a kiss coming sooner if they spent even more time together and the chance for a shared Nobel is great.

[koops]

http://m.etonline.com/tv/130836_Big_Bang_Stars_Jim_Parsons_Mayim_Bialik_Dish_on_Sheldon_Amy_s_Romance/index.html

I find it interesting that ET assumes Shamy's "sexy time" will commence at the end of this season. Nice to hear Jim confirm that the relationship is, indeed, headed towards physical intimacy, but I think the idea of an end-of-season encounter seems pretty far-fetched at this point.

Jim also comments on the increased amount of Shamy touching this season, which counters what we've all observed.

I feel like the actors tend to represent the viewpoint of the writers (though they may not be privvy to long-term story arcs). Do we take this to mean that the writers aren't aware of the impression they are leaving us with when Sheldon still, after 2 years of dating, can't hug his girlfriend without a look of exxasperation?

I have a feeling TPTB don't put as much thought into these thing as we do. Could be carelessness...

What do you guys think? Are they holding him back on purpose or are they simply failing to communicate the subtext as intended (that Sheldon is stepping it up this season and moving towards intimacy)?

 

Like I said, the only time we're really seen the writers go out of the way not to have him touch her was the V-day hug. Other than that there hasn't been that much physical contact or exasperation either. But I think when there has been physical contact it's been pretty substantial, 6x10 in particular. I do think the V-day hug was more to pull the classic Sheldon stunt where he does something sweet and then "takes it back" by being Sheldon, like people have often complained about, rather than the writers trying to make a point about his touch-phobia. 

 

I think out of the 2 Jim is always the optimist who gets excited about everything and Mayim is the realist who tends to bring things back to Earth. Hence his excitement over where things are going and her interviews where she's always "Well, it'll be a loooong time, they're trying to keep Sheldon Sheldon" etc etc. 

 

I do think sex is most definitely not happening this season, journalists tend to jump the gun on these things. 

 

eta: Boy, ET surely make their moneys worth of those interviews. It's like, what? The 4th-5th ET article with the same interviews?

Edited February 24, 2013 by koops

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Like I said, the only time we're really seen the writers go out of the way not to have him touch her was the V-day hug. Other than that there hasn't been that much physical contact or exasperation either. But I think when there has been physical contact it's been pretty substantial, 6x10 in particular. I do think the V-day hug was more to pull the classic Sheldon stunt where he does something sweet and then "takes it back" by being Sheldon, like people have often complained about, rather than the writers trying to make a point about his touch-phobia. 

 

I think out of the 2 Jim is always the optimist who gets excited about everything and Mayim is the realist who tends to bring things back to Earth. Hence his excitement over where things are going and her interviews where she's always "Well, it'll be a loooong time, they're trying to keep Sheldon Sheldon" etc etc. 

 

I do think sex is most definitely not happening this season, journalists tend to jump the gun on these things. 

 

eta: Boy, ET surely make their moneys worth of those interviews. It's like, what? The 4th-5th ET article with the same interviews?

 

That does seem to be their go-to move to get a joke out of Sheldon doing something sweet.  The writers are going to have to work harder to find the comedy while still moving them forward. 

[Pomita]

Thanks for the ET article. And Jim and Mayim continue to be stalwart shippers.

 

From their comments, I agree that we were probably off the mark on any kind of implication of Sheldon avoiding touching Amy. If  we count the (supposedly innocent) touching when he was taking care of her in Fish Guts, I do think there has been more touching in this season; so Jim may have based his comment on this and Sheldon's later confession that his touching in that instance had been, in a way, conscious and aware.

 

As for the V-day hug, I don't think his not returning her hug was a major hint of anything. The moment held such intense emotional implications that I, at least, was okay with the focus not being on physical affection there; rather, even Amy's hug was an expression of her effusion of joy and thankful feelings, rather than an attempt at intimacy. I don't suppose she even noticed that he didn't return it; she just pulled him closer when he talked of ordering the pizza.

[saweco]

I keep hoping they will find a way to bring Mary on this season...even if they have to have her Skype and talk to Sheldon or Amy or both.  I really would like to see it happen.  I know they did that with Christine when she was filming still in NY last year. I t would be better than not having her at all, IMO.   Sure I would like her there in person, but if they can't do her in person, than let her Skype and bring back some scenes to do exactly as you said, Spook.  I agree it is important and probably what the writers were hoping to do.  

 

Kiru, I think something physical will come as well...most likely a kiss.  They have been building to it all season. 

 

Oh, I hope they bring Mary back before the season is over. I love, love, love her! Even if it is just via Skype. Is she still doing the play on Broadway?

[Catlina]

As for the conversation about Sheldon's touching issues: I remembered the university principal Seibert touching Sheldon in 4x15, when he came to the university cafeteria to announce that the gang has to attend to the fund raising party for the university. Seibert put his hand on Sheldon's shoulder there. Sheldon said:

"Sheldon: That depends, how much longer do you plan on fondling my shoulder?

Seibert: Sorry, Dr. Cooper, I forgot you have a touch phobia.

Sheldon: It’s not a touch phobia, it’s a germ phobia. If you’d like to go put on a pair of latex gloves, I’ll let you check me for a hernia."

So Sheldon himself said that he doesn't have touch phobia, it's phobia for germs. But that doesn't mean that he would like and enjoy touching however. Interesting though, that he so easily seemed to hang around with and touch Amy, even bath her in 6x10, but yet couldn't hug her back in 6x16 when she was full healthy if it was only the fobia for germs. So there must be, at least partly, these hippie-dippie feelings that are getting him so careful with touching her.
 

[bigbangsheldon]

i love how theyve said "we touched more this year than last year" when they havent really x____________x   last year we got a hand-hold, cuddles, hug and a weird kiss and this year we have a hand-hold and two hugs!! its LESS!!! DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!

[koops]

i love how theyve said "we touched more this year than last year" when they havent really x____________x   last year we got a hand-hold, cuddles, hug and a weird kiss and this year we have a hand-hold and two hugs!! its LESS!!! DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!

 

Maybe Jim knows what happened off screen in all those scenes in 6x10 we didn't get to see. (where's the smiley that waggles its eyebrows when you need it?)

[MJistheBOMB]

Yeah, maybe he was counting parts that didn't air too because I tell you what, they had Jim spanking Mayim for what felt like 10 minutes at least and then on TV we see a few seconds worth. LOL! That was a lot of touching going on that night.

[stardustmelody]

That does seem to be their go-to move to get a joke out of Sheldon doing something sweet.  The writers are going to have to work harder to find the comedy while still moving them forward. 

I agree they need to work harder to find the comedy while still moving them forward.  It is rather annoying that they have to make a joke out of sweet moments that should be able to be cherished.  I know it is a comedy, but they still can make it have sweet moments and allow them to remain that.  Find the comedy during other moments.   Where they did a great job of allowing fans a good moment was when Sheldon was talking seriously with Leonard and Penny and they brought the comedy in with Penny's reaction by hitting Leonard's arm when Sheldon said "it's a possibility".   That was a moment that allowed fans a cherished moment and brought in the comedy because she reacted like all of us wanted to react.   It worked well.   They need to learn how to craft more of those moments...move forward, bring in the comedy and it works.

 

Is she still doing the play on Broadway?

 

Yes, until August 2013.  

 

 

Sheldon: It’s not a touch phobia, it’s a germ phobia. If you’d like to go put on a pair of latex gloves, I’ll let you check me for a hernia."

 

This is why I suspect they are having him react strangely and guardedly by her touch. I think they are trying to show that it isn't a germ thing or a touch thing, but it is more of an arousal issue (in the future we will learn this, that is).   He has no problem touching Kripke's hand when he tried to fist bump Sheldon.  He had no problem patting Kripke on his back when he thought Kripke was let loose from his job.  He had no problem touching Leonard's hair (even though he didn't like all the product Leonard used on his hair), he has not had problems punching Penny in the arm, or touching in general.  It is just with Amy he seems to be far more guarded in a way.  Sure he was comfortable when he was caring for her and I think he rationalized it as "care giving" and therefore was able to separate his "feelings" for her in a way.   But I do think they are going to be showing that when he touches her, he feels something inside that stirs within him and that is why he is careful to try and keep it to a minimum.  Otherwise, I don't really understand why the continually make him make a big deal out of things (like his comment and facial expressions in V-day, or at the movie theatre when she holding hands ("I am not fond of hand holding"), etc.   It cheapens the moment when he makes those snarky comments and, while I know they get a comedy moment out of them, I think they may also be doing it for other reasons.   At least I hope they are.  Otherwise, it gets annoying after a while.  You just want him to enjoy holding her and touching her...no laugh moments, no snarky comments..just sweet love between them.

 

Yeah, maybe he was counting parts that didn't air too because I tell you what, they had Jim spanking Mayim for what felt like 10 minutes at least and then on TV we see them a few seconds worth.  LOL!  That was a lot of touching going on that night.

See that is just it.  We have seen that between taping scenes, Jim has often been touching Mayim a lot...putting his hand on her leg, or her arm, etc.   So maybe he is confusing those moments or adding them in forgetting viewers are not getting a glimpse of those moments unless they are watching the taping live.

 

Edited February 24, 2013 by stardustmelody

[ShamyFTW]

i love how theyve said "we touched more this year than last year" when they havent really x____________x   last year we got a hand-hold, cuddles, hug and a weird kiss and this year we have a hand-hold and two hugs!! its LESS!!! DAMN IT!!!!!!!!!

I agree, so its a little bit weird for the show to proclaim so.  At this point shamy should at least hold hands naturally, and give each other hugs.  I can understand about the kiss taking a little longer because of the germ phobia, but you can't get much germs from someone on hugging contact. To be honest I hope that part of their relationship is not skipped over to jump right into the sex.  I have always liked that the Shamy were taking their time, but it's been a long time.  We still need to see them in the infatuation stage...Amy is kinda of there, kinda, but they need to be at this stage together for awhile before any type of coitus encounter.

[bostrich]

Oh, I hope they bring Mary back before the season is over. I love, love, love her! Even if it is just via Skype. Is she still doing the play on Broadway?

The play is due to close in the first week of March (3rd). The reviews are great; if I could get to NY I would love to see it. Who knows whether they will get LM in right away or just wait for the new season. I think Sheldon has been working by himself pretty well, they may save her until S7 when he requires another push.

I assume the lack of casual contact now will make the Sheldon induced something in the season finale a bigger deal, whatever that something is. I liked the idea floated last week about a Sheldon kiss when Amy falls asleep. It allows him to try out something new without committing to anything, satisfies the audience but doesn't move the character too far. Poor Amy though. One day she'll remember a kiss between them lol.

I just saw Stardust's post. Has she got another play lined up? The Other Place is closing in March by the website.

[bigbangsheldon]

IGNORE EVERYTHING I SAID I FORGOT ABOUT EVERYTHING IN 6X10

 

i gotta stop saying stupid stuff like everyday every second 

[ShamyFTW]

I hope you are right @Stardust.  If Sheldon is holding back because he feels arousal, I guess that would make sense somewhat....but the case of the VD episode both of them were happy with each other's gift but not happy enough to return the hug...

 

I know we the audience knows Sheldon is working on his issues, but is that suppose to be enough?  I want to see a scene where Sheldon is being amourous to Amy and not taking it back with snarky comments etc.

 

Also, I hope they don't have Sheldon kiss Amy while she is sleep...that won't count in my book.

[stardustmelody]

I just saw Stardust's post. Has she got another play lined up? The Other Place is closing in March by the website.

No, I was just quoting what I have seen posted other places...but you may be right about March. I hope she is freed up then because that means we might get to see her this year and I know fans have been waiting for her all season.

 

Kissing Amy in her sleep, while cute, isn't that satisfying in the sense Amy wouldn't know she was kissed.   I want Amy to know that Sheldon returns her feelings..he feels for her like she feels for him.   She currently doesn't get much return warm and fuzzy.  Almost all moments are followed with a snarky comment from him.  That isn't very comforting. 

Edited February 24, 2013 by stardustmelody

[koops]

The play is due to close in the first week of March (3rd). The reviews are great; if I could get to NY I would love to see it. Who knows whether they will get LM in right away or just wait for the new season. I think Sheldon has been working by himself pretty well, they may save her until S7 when he requires another push.

I assume the lack of casual contact now will make the Sheldon induced something in the season finale a bigger deal, whatever that something is. I liked the idea floated last week about a Sheldon kiss when Amy falls asleep. It allows him to try out something new without committing to anything, satisfies the audience but doesn't move the character too far. Poor Amy though. One day she'll remember a kiss between them lol.

I just saw Stardust's post. Has she got another play lined up? The Other Place is closing in March by the website.

 

bostrich! I missed your posts, where have you been?? 

 

Anyway, whatever is coming it'd better be good, we're starved enough as it is.

 

@Stardust. I agree with what you're saying, it's annoying when they have to cheapen sweet moments for laughs. I noticed in 6x10 when he said "You're my girlfriend and I care about your wellbeing", that the audience took a second or two before going "awwww" because I think everyone is so used to the pun that nobody expects it to be genuinely sweet. I can understand though that this is a sitcom first and foremost and their main concern is probably to get people to laugh. They've managed to have some untarnished moments here and there (Howard's apology to Bernadette last year, for example) and some moments where they managed to make it both funny and sweet (Spiderman speech, The Talk) and it's been good, but for the most part I've heard people complain about the whole "Sheldon takes it back" even in other situations that have nothing to do with romance. Like Kaley said, I hope they realize that they got to a point where they can afford not having to be goofy all the time.

[Kiru Breezy]

I trust in Steve Molaro #thatisall.

 

And Bill.

 

And even Chuck. 

 

And Tara. 

 

And Mark (he's a really good director)

Edited February 24, 2013 by Kiru Breezy

[bostrich]

Kissing Amy in her sleep, while cute, isn't that satisfying in the sense Amy wouldn't know she was kissed. I want Amy to know that Sheldon returns her feelings..he feels for her like she feels for him. She currently doesn't get much return warm and fuzzy. Almost all moments are followed with a snarky comment from him. That isn't very comforting.

I should probably have phrased that as I would find Sheldon kissing Amy in her sleep more satisfying than an end of season hug. I hope they shock us though and Sheldon goes for a kiss. I think Amy does know, or at least strongly suspects, Sheldon feels the same way as she does. But I agree, he's ready to start showing it. I kind of like Sheldon's little snarky comments for one reason: Jim is so good at making Sheldon seem a little exasperated but not at all cruel. The 'lets get this over with' in 6.10 was cute when it could have come across extremely callous. It's just so Sheldon.

@koops/spook: hey! you know the usual: writing papers, applying for jobs. I've been following the thread but it is moving so fast around here (so great!) what I want to say has usually been said by you or someone else by the time I catch up. It has been great reading.

Edited February 24, 2013 by bostrich

[Catlina]

To be honest I would be a bit disappointed, if after 3 years all they can give as is a hug (unless it is really sweet and full with emotions and no snarky comments). Kiss would be more appropriate now.
And I'm also waiting if they will get Amy to Cal Tech as well to work there now and confront Kripkie and her reputation there. It would be sweet comedy and interesting to see how she would react. Would she be flattered or could she blow up to Sheldon because he's been telling lies about her/their fake sex life. She may have Sheldon taxed with what he has said about her to Kripkie.