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Here's a question:  what would Sheldon say if Amy said she wanted a bit more physical from their relationship, say she proposed a new habit of a goodnight hug?  Would he be OK with it?

 

BTW, Mayim said in an interview a while back that S/A were in the "relationship agreement" phase of their relationship.  Does that mean they'll get past it?  When's the last time they mentioned the RA?  The last I remember was TFGD.

I think Sheldon would be against it, but will come around with some kind of comprise like at the Halloween party. :) There so cute! Loved it on the latest episode when Sheldon said something like is it also a rule for a boyfriend to hold his girlfriends hand at the cinema, pawing at my hand. haha how cute pawing, 

 

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I could slap myself a MILLION times for not asking Steve Molaro a few questions when I met him after PaleyFest. I do this EVERY time. I get AMAZING opportunities and screw up because I'm in shock/shy mode. LOL. 

 

I could have at the VERY LEAST asked him is anything big happening with Shamy before this seasons end but did I? No. 

 

8 years ago, Michael Jackson invited about 100 fans into his Neverland Valley Ranch. My mom and sisters were with me. We went into his home first, followed by some time in his arcade. At one moment I wandered outside of the arcade. Here comes MJ, daughter by his side, he's holding a box full of box sets he plans on giving to the fans....his bodyguards are near, I was the closest fan to him (15 feet) and one of 3 people outside of the arcade. It was the perfect time for me to say, "Thank you, Michael for inviting us into your home..." Did I say anything to him? No. I stood there like an idiot in shock mode. LOL. 

 

*sighhhh*

 

 
OMG You met MICHAEL JACKSON?
You're such a lucky girl! I'm his fan since I was 6 years old and never met him :(
I'm so happy to meet someone who is his fan too, especially someone that loves TBBT
If I had the chance to meet him, I would cry and hug him... 
Hold on... So... many... feelings... *faint*

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You can be a feminist and still enjoy romantic touch and love. Sure they may seem illogical if you are thinking with your head instead of heart. Bottom line, Sheldon needs to let go and let his heart drive him at times, especially when it comes to Amy. We see glimpses of that heart now and again. Just like the sweet way he pleaded with Penny to "not hurt his friend". I don't think we are asking for them to behave like normal couples that grope and paw at each other, but we are asking for sweet, tender moments. There is quite a difference between the two.

I mean't feminist in terms of true equality among the sexes BTW. Not the 'hands off' misconception that sadly sticks to the F word :(

Agree it'd be sweet to see Sheldon's emotional id defeat his ego, but kinda suspect this is not where tptb are heading. :(

Love to be proved wrong though! :)

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What really surprises me and love Shamy even more, is when Sheldon makes the move! Last episode of Season 5 when he held Amys hand <3 my mouth just dropped, and every one in my living room went awhhh. *hand on chest* 
When every one else held hands the room was silent lol ;) 

All though I know some people didn't like that Sheldon did this.. not to sure why other than someone said it was'nt like Sheldon. Well to that I say pffft! thast why it was so good, It was a fantastic turn and made our hearts melt. Damn it! Just thinking about *sniff* or when he said I need you (but wasn't what we thought, he needed a ride lol)  still it was all serious *blubber* :') , our little Shelly is learning <3

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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yes to all above.   It is just that they made such progress up until the hug on V-day and it has been back tracking since.   That, coupled with the way they responded at Paley Fest, almost sounding like they didn't know if they were ever going to consummate their relationship.  What was that about?   Of course they have to or why bother putting these two together. It would be painful to see Amy never get a payoff for her patience.   I am not talking this season, but the series.   My gut is telling me they were moving along at a decent pace because they were planning to lead to either an ILY or a SIK  on V-day and then one of the two at the end of the series (if kiss the ILY or the other way around).   But they probably heard they were going to be extended beyond Season 7 and so immediately put on brakes and backtracked in order to buy more time.  But as a viewer that is frustrating.  I would rather they just say that and own up to it.   But since we don't know that for certain, it comes across like they don't know what they are planning or doing with these characters which is really unsatisfying.   As I said, the entire purpose of Amy was to give Sheldon a love interest and someone like him.   But they certainly haven't been playing it very well in the most recent episodes.  It is almost as if he is growing weary of her than enjoying her.  And he almost treats her more as a sister than a girlfriend.   So something has to change to make it seem that he is just as invested in their relationship as she is.  They started to do that in 6.14 when he talked to L/P, but since it has been downhill.  

 

I am still very much a Shamy advocate, but that doesn't mean I can't see loads of room for improvement from the writers. :icon_wink:

 

 

On the Paleyfest and regarding this few episode it looks like  if they had no idea what to do next, how to solve this,  as if  they not were unanimous. And what, they suddenly will dragged this longer because  there will be more than 7 seasons. This is rediculous,  and everything they began to change in their relationship will be wasted?
 

I re-read Kath's story "The Double Girlfriend Dissent" last night and kept thinking how it would be funny to see Sheldon react to Amy cutting off all communication like she did in that story.  It would be so funny to see him freak out as he did in that story.  It is one of my favorite shorter stories to read.   So cute.

 

I read it too and I think that it would be big surprice for them, and so funny. This could give him lesson. I love this story. Imagine how Sheldon tosses  himself when there is no response from her,not a word. It could drive him nuts. :icon_lol:  :icon_lol:

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I want  a Shamy payback. All I want is Sheldon showing his love to Amy like never before because of all this backtracking. We have been waiting for so long something special. I want Sheldon to make his scientific paradigm about his love to Amy and vice versa and chew it. He can make scientific calculations, theories and equations about the love between him and Amy and then have Amy to check if it's fine. All I want that could make it for his mind reasonable to have a real relationship with her, if nothing else does. I wish I could say to Sheldon, go study what love is, do it in your way.  :icon_wink:  But even more than that, he need a kick to his butt in a way or another to understand the situation now.

 

I post it yesterday and I want to share with you this idea because I think it could be some solution for him. To bad that it will be a fiction.

 

 

I must share with you about some fanfic "The Coccinella Correlation". It was about Shamy v-day.
Quote:Amy contemplates her life and relationship with Sheldon on Valentine's Day. Would this holiday just slip by as a normal day, or does Sheldon have more in store?
 
Sheldon has found his way to say to Amy that he loves her. He brings to her brain scans and, when taking brain scan he was looking at her picture because he was  nervous and resoults was: 
Patient experienced unprecedented activity among dopamine and serotonin receptors; as well as increased concentration of oxytocin exclusively after repeated viewing of image 0113-labeled "Amy Farrah Fowler".
And when she saw it she already knew that he loves her.  :wub:
It was so beautiful because he told her that words " I love you"  it was so difficult for him but he said it to her. I was really moved, and I had  tears in my eyes.   :wub:
A little digression, and maybe it could be possible idea for him to show it how much he cares.
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Yes I agree they have to remove him from being so resistant, especially when it is making less and less sense.  Why say what he did in 6.14 episode to Leonard and Penny and then suddenly do such an about face.  It make no sense at all.  That would have been a perfect pivoting episode to have him begin to show little signs of attempting new things and trying to do small things.  A small touch on the shoulder to get her attention, a small touch of removing an eyelash from her face, etc.   Just little things, small tender things that are not groping each other on the couch.   I really think the writers need to get there.

 

I feel Spook's frustration and agree with her about it.  I am frustrated as well.  Willing to be disillusioned and give up on Shamy?  No, not by a long shot.  I still love them, but don't want to see them be ruined because of writing so focused on trying to keep Sheldon the same that it sacrifices a character that we have grown to love (Amy).   It makes you not want them together which defeats the purpose of bringing that character on in the first place.   The whole point of Amy was to give Sheldon a love interest, so let Sheldon fall in love and start to show he is in love to his woman.  He can still be reserved and have all of the other characteristics about him that make him who he is, but we want to see him be different with Amy...being the man he wants to be with her.  Otherwise it is all in vain.

This is exactly what I was thinking too. They should remember why they brought Amy in the series, really. If they want so much to keep Sheldon as old Sheldon, why they brought Amy to series in the first place? Why keep him in a relationship, if it seems to be such a burden to him? Would it be a relief to everyone, if Sheldon would no longer be in a relationship? Everybody's happy? No, I don't think so. The show wouldn't be the same anymore, and they can't go back to season 1-2 atmosphere anymore. Those times are back and gone, the dynamic of the show is now different than at that time. The characters have developed over the time, as people usually do.

And I think it wouldn't steal any humor out of the show if Sheldon changed what comes to the romance with Amy. There is still lot of comedic sides in him. It would be humorous for example to have them to try scientific coitus experiments at their place etc., try to view romantic things from scientific point of view, have them have their quirky eye-coitus and romance... Romance can bee quirky in their relationship and it wouldn't steal the humor out of the show, more likely to just add it.

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Sheldon is a logical being.

So maybe Shamy will NEVER make-out on the couch. Never kiss, cuddle or hold hands out of simple affection. This behaviour is illogical after all.

Doesn't mean they won't have sex though! There's a payoff to that (a huge rush of endorphins, 'very satisfying').

Holding hands IS sweaty, can be uncomfortable and give you a dead arm if it's for the whole duration of a movie.

Hugging, kissing, meh! What for? Where's it going? In the context of foreplay it's necessary, not necessary otherwise.

Taking the feminist angle, anyone unhappy with a woman being 'pawed' against her will needs to afford Sheldon the same rights.

He's said it himself, he's no-one's 'snuggle bunny'!

 

Pfff. Sheldon is logical on the surface, he is a mess of emotions underneath it all. You see it all the time with his temper tantrums, his jealousy, his possessiveness, his narcissism. And even his love for the things he's passionate about. He likes to think of himself as a robot, but he isn't at all. He's whining like a "girl has cooties" kind of thing. Of course he'll never be a Leonard or a Howard, but I also don't think he's as clinical as he thinks he is to just go straight to sex because that's "logical".

 

And in any case, oxytocin and endorphins increase with all sorts of physical bonding, not just pure sex, even if you want to take the neurological approach. 

 

But, I digress. I enjoy Shamy for the ride, not the end goal. I couldn't care less that they have sex in the end if all I get to watch is 3-4 seasons of desperate Amy and whiny Sheldon.

 

 

ANYHOW. I've decided that I am going to shut up about it from this moment on, until the last report of the season. I will reassess my Shamy thoughts at the end of the season and focus on the positives for now, because maybe this whole thing will make sense at the end. And because I don't want to be a downer all the time. 

 

That's it, that's all.

 

eta: Oh, one last thing. Stardust. I don't think Chuck's answer at Paley meant they don't know whether they'll consummate at all. He just couldn't say yes there and then. They'll never say yes to a question like that, that's why it irks me that people even bother asking. I really liked his answer, that they're fascinated with the relationship and want to see it grow. It was the best answer I heard about it all day.

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Pfff. Sheldon is logical on the surface, he is a mess of emotions underneath it all. You see it all the time with his temper tantrums, his jealousy, his possessiveness, his narcissism. And even his love for the things he's passionate about. He likes to think of himself as a robot, but he isn't at all. He's whining like a "girl has cooties" kind of thing. Of course he'll never be a Leonard or a Howard, but I also don't think he's as clinical as he thinks he is to just go straight to sex because that's "logical".

Don't get me wrong, I want the id to defeat the ego too. Perhaps Amy's neurological tinkering will turn up trumps after all.

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Pfff. Sheldon is logical on the surface, he is a mess of emotions underneath it all. You see it all the time with his temper tantrums, his jealousy, his possessiveness, his narcissism. And even his love for the things he's passionate about. He likes to think of himself as a robot, but he isn't at all. He's whining like a "girl has cooties" kind of thing. Of course he'll never be a Leonard or a Howard, but I also don't think he's as clinical as he thinks he is to just go straight to sex because that's "logical".

Don't get me wrong, I want the id to defeat the ego too. Perhaps Amy's neurological tinkering will turn up trumps after all.

Be a good twist if coitus preceded innocent physical affection!

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okay, I have been struggeling a bit, but I need to get this out of my system.

 

Saturday night I had a Big-Bang-Marathon Party with some colleagues at my place. They all love TBBT but are no Shamy's, Lenny's, Majim's, etc.....

We watched Season 6, episode 9 to 19 (Parkingspot to actual). They where totally overwhelmed and exited by the interactins of the Shamy and almost cracked up inbetween (of course  :icon_biggrin: ). I asked them about theire feeling for the Shamy development and they were totally positiv. Although I mentioned that IMO the comments of Sheldon in 6.19 were not that nice. They did not bother at all and said they can't see the further development.

 

This made me think: 

Are we (I mean us, knowing the Shamy to our bones, analizing, questioning, again analizing and rehearsing) meanwhile caught in this process too much? So that we start to interprete, re-interprete, think in, think out and try to understand the characters too much? Like: Sometimes a snarky and not nice comment is just a comment. 

 

What want's me to share these thoughts with you is that I see a lot of my loveley Shamy-Fellows turning upset, sad and angry with this, in our eyes, sometimes unsatisfying development of the relationship. Think back to S5 at this state. We would all have gone berserk with the information we have now.  :excl:

 

And I do not think it helps trying to overanalyze interviews or comments. That, as we have seen in the last days, make things sometimes worse, sometimes better, deppending who just said what. 

 

I agree, we NEED the SIK! And I hope we will get it. But I just do not want us to go totally nuts about it  :icon_redface:  

 

Love ya guys!   :wub:

 

ps: If Sheldon does not Kiss Amy this Season, I am flying to LA and will be KISSING her myself!!!!   I SWEAR to NEIL

 

Neil is pleased.

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Interestin'.

 

Who's Arthur?

 

Arthur is apparently someone we haven't met but who is a minor celebrity.  Tantalizing snippet but hard to tell where it's headed.

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OMG You met MICHAEL JACKSON?
You're such a lucky girl! I'm his fan since I was 6 years old and never met him :(
I'm so happy to meet someone who is his fan too, especially someone that loves TBBT
If I had the chance to meet him, I would cry and hug him... 
Hold on... So... many... feelings... *faint*

 

 

Never met him officially. Seen him probably 100 times in person, a few times up close, even reached into his car window and he grabbed on to my hand for 2 seconds and I heard him say, "I remember her..." about me once...close enough though. My sister Anna got to meet him officially though, which was cool.

 

That is so cool we both are fans of both. Haha.

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OT:  I just read that Margo Harshman who has been playing Alex appears to have been cast in a new pilot called "Betas" (Amazon is producing).   Sounds like Sheldon might be losing his assistant soon if the pilot gets picked up.

 

"Betas is set in the world of Silicon Valley start-ups and centers on a quartet of under-socialized computer geeks who have designed a killer app that could transform the social lives of about 6 billion people for the better. Now all they have to do is get over their crippling personality flaws and sell their product."

 

Sounds sort of like what BBT was originally thought it would be about before they changed the professional careers to be scientists instead.   LOL!

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I don't want to toot my own horn but I am definitely very blessed. Very thankful for all my dreams in life coming true, including going to the Big Bang Theory tapings. Yes, I went to Neverland 5 different times back in the day. MJ was awesome to his fans. Anyway, back to the topic...

 

All I can say on the topic of Sheldon is I hope he eventually grows the hell UP in his relationship with Amy and realize the amazing catch she is. He is lucky to have her and he needs to prove to her that she is lucky to have him as well. She already clearly loves him enough to be so patient  with him so the least he can do is show more interest in her to let her know he cares about her like she does him. He can start be being sweeter to her and not making remarks like he did in the recent episode that has everyone so upset. 

 

I was not bothered by this like everyone else but, yes, if it were to continue on, I'd be a little annoyed. Let's try to be more positive and hope the writers don't screw up something as amazing as the Shamy! Let's send out good vibes, ladies! You're bringing me down a little. LOL.

 

 

Thank you for your words. And for cheering us a little, for sending good vibes. I believe that Shamy's love will growing stronger. Sorry for black clouds. 
And if I must say that it sounds amazing that you saw MJ and you had been in Neverland. It's so wonderful feeling when our dreams can  come true. I have my dream.... it's small dream...  I   would like to see Jim Parsons live on Broadway. I know it's silly but I hope that maybe it will come true...
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