Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[CaitAmber]

Queen of the Chat is waiting for you lovelies! 

[MJistheBOMB]

You girls have fun in there. I'm so sleepy so I'm gonna go to bed :-)

[CaitAmber]

You girls have fun in there. I'm so sleepy so I'm gonna go to bed :-)

Sweet dreams! 

[phantagrae]

The whole way that sequence was written made no sense.

 

He gets outraged because he thinks Raj is implying she has no sexuality.

 

Raj confirms that's exactly what he means.

 

Then Sheldon is like "Oh, ok then..."

 

Why would he get outraged in the first place if once he gets confirmation he just backs down and doesn't bother defending her? It was written in a very awkward way.

 

I think he doesn't know what to say to defend her, so Howard suggests Sheldon insult Raj by talking smack about his mother.

 

One thing I hadn't noticed before--when Sheldon tells Amy to take her breasts out, Raj smiles and nods...

[shamylove]

I just stopped in the chat. No one was there.

[Nogravitasatall]

I think he doesn't know what to say to defend her, so Howard suggests Sheldon insult Raj by talking smack about his mother.

 

One thing I hadn't noticed before--when Sheldon tells Amy to take her breasts out, Raj smiles and nods...

cos he's a rat <plays JAWS theme>

[CaitAmber]

I just stopped in the chat. No one was there.

Oops... /unmutes sound

[phantagrae]

I think that is more acceptable if you are talking one show here now and again, but what I think Shamy fans are upset with is that we know some of what is also coming ahead and it appears like there is a lot of similar type snarky dialog aimed at making Amy look like a doormat.   When you begin to add up several episodes in a row, it paints a whole different picture.  It no longer looks to be "throwaway" and for comedic purposes.  Or of it is, it becomes offensive to those who treasure the sweet relationship that once existed between the characters.  It isn't something that can be ignored any longer.  That is what is troubling me.   It is combining several episodes in a row of nasty remarks or attitude being given that is annoying.

 

As far as the mirror...that would be fine if Sheldon actually had brought Amy along because he felt she was an asset to him.   But in the dialog he implied he only needed her to give him the ride.  It wasn't that he was taking her because of all the things she mentioned about her "assets" such as having knowledge of the academic political environment, being a well respected scientist, etc. that he brought into consideration when bringing her with him.  That is troubling in itself.   To look at her as a mere taxi service verses a true asset.   So I don't see the mirror in that case.

 

Sheldon doesn't deny her ability to be an asset to him.  His comment about her attending being helpful was made before she mentioned what she could do for him.  His thought that she could drive him was the only thing he meant when he said it would be helpful.  So he wasn't denying the other things she could do for him--she hadn't mentioned them yet when he had the thought that she could help.

So when she said all those things she could do, he then said, essentially, "yeah, that too."

 

In a way, Leonard did a similar, though not exactly the same, thing--he told Penny she didn't need to go (he didn't need her help), until she bent over and "tied her shoe."  Then he realized what she could bring to the game ("yeah, that too")

[phantagrae]

cos he's a rat <plays JAWS theme>

 

He's not a rat--he just likes to look at boobs.

[Nogravitasatall]

...well. Then he's a rat and a guy. LOL.

 

I do wish him well but he never fails to go where he does. And cleverly acted too.

Hopefully not the catalyst for the finale. <again plays JAWS theme>

Edited April 6, 2013 by Nogravitasatall

[phantagrae]

Sheldon was attracted to Amy because he was "more similar to him than anyone he had ever met", not because he reminded him of his mother. This dynamic of Amy babysitting Sheldon is social situations is very new, especially given that she herself had little to no social skills until recently.

 

I don't think he was attracted to her because she was like his mother--it's clear that he was attracted to her because, as you say, "she's more similar to him..." etc.

But still, the way she deals with him is indeed very similar to his mother.  I've said this before.

Just like Mary, Amy will let him get away with a lot of crap, just rolling her eyes or shaking her head at his nonsense, but she'll let him go only so far before she puts her foot down and makes him straighten up.

 

Mary does it in the first season, when she lets Sheldon pout in his room for day or two, but then she goes in there and tells him to get dressed because he's going to go apologize to his boss, etc.  When he objects, she says, essentially, "Was I asking you or telling you?"

Amy does something very similar in the Vacation episode and also in the date night episode this season.  In Vacation, she lets him whine and complain about the tasks she gives him, for a while, but after his thumb incident, when he wants to come back, she puts her foot down and insists that he apologize sincerely.

In the Date Night episode, she tolerates Raj's presence on their date for a little while, but then she again puts her foot down--tell me something sincere or that's it.

 

While I don't think Sheldon went out looking for a woman like his mother--and in many ways Amy is NOTHING like his mother--what we don't know is what he learned about Amy as a person in those initial 4 months that built upon whatever he saw in her in that brief meeting in the coffee shop.  By the time we see them in the S4 season opener, they've been building on that initial meeting, getting to know each other via texts and emails, etc.

So maybe he felt some resonance between her and his mother.

[silverangel]

I think he doesn't know what to say to defend her, so Howard suggests Sheldon insult Raj by talking smack about his mother.

 

One thing I hadn't noticed before--when Sheldon tells Amy to take her breasts out, Raj smiles and nods...

 

Yeah I know.. I want to think this way....maybe he doesn't understand whole this kind of thing, and what to say to defend her because he wasn't in situation like this earlier. I'm just so angry on the writers because of the way how they show all of the Shamy interactions right now and whole this rollercoaster of Sheldon's behavior make me sick.

I hope the writers have some great thing in the last two episodes .I just want to see those kind of sweetness between them, for which we all yearn.

I noticed it too. When Sheldon says what are you waiting for... take your breasts out, he stare at Amy's chest and smiles.

 

[Shamynatress]

I would really like to give Jim a call and ask him about his opinion on the latest Sheldon snarkyness...........

 

Anyone have his phonenumber?

 

He is one of us Shamys and tbh I would kill for getting to know what he thinks about his lines.

 

   

[koops]

I didn't see this scene as motherly per se; even earlier, she was the one who told him 'you have a guest who's upset', so that he would get tea. I agree that she's supposed to be socially awkward too, but since she's a little more aware than him (the turtle to his snail), she can get him to follow some things because he trusts her enough to listen to her willingly (in the case of his mother or Penny, his 'obeying' is more usually under protest).

 

Yes, sorry, I wasn't talking about any particular scene, and I didn't mean to imply it was negative at all. I think Amy has acquired new social skills thanks to the girls and she is now "passing the knowledge" on to Sheldon. What I was saying is that it's a relatively recent development and I don't think Sheldon's gravitated towards her because she reminds him of his mother. While Amy and Mary do have some things in common in the way they deal with it, Amy has always treated him like a grown up, unlike everyone else around him, and that's what I think made them work in the first place. She gets him and doesn't think he is crazy (or at least didn't until recently). 

 

The best example of that is the Parking Lot ep, imo. At the beginning of the episode, Sheldon gets angry at Leonard for never taking his side and Leonard replies "That's because I can never understand your side!". But Amy stuck by his side throughout the episode. It was a nice little contrast between the way everyone else sees him ("You're out of your mind, Sheldon" - Howard) and she does. I would hate for that dynamic to get lost and replaced with her "mothering" him. He has Penny and Leonard for that.

[rachelshamyfan]

If something happens in the last two EPs that involve some shamy goodness will that make up for what some people have not liked in the last ep and presumably the next one where Amy tries to help him? It'd only my opinion of course and we can't all agree on the sane thing but I was OK with the last episode

[koops]

It depends. I think it differs depending on the approach one has to the show in general. I don't like to have to look at the show as if it were 2 different shows depending on whether it's sweeps or non-sweeps. So, if the last 2 eps were filled with Shamy goodness as if these few eps never happened, I would seriously worry that this is just a new dynamic they are settling in: sweep-Shamy and non-sweep Shamy. I don't like that. If, on the other hand, we do get a connection to these eps, for example with an Amy outburst, then I will be much happier. I just don't like it when things happen for no reason, especially if it's about taking punches at Amy as a character so that the audience can laugh at how outrageous Sheldon is.

[rachelshamyfan]

Chuck said something about the final being intimate but that could mean anything from the whole group hanging out or individually in any case I think the shamy will be fine!

[untilyou]

Shamynatress: I don't know how he thinks about his lines, but right after the tapping [at Paley fest], he said they (Shamy) were getting more and more attached to each others. 

And she said: they saw each other as equals and it was really sweet. 

 

[i have no ideas how they get those.] 

[koops]

I have to say, all these banners on Tumblr about "Keeping the faith" crack me up. 

[untilyou]

Regarding the dinner time-line in the last ep: I just re-watched it. It's still ok. They showed Shamy scene first, then Lenny, and not going back to Shamy. So they didn't have to happen in the same time. 

I assume Shamy had tea time after Sheldon got back from school, at some time around noon. 

Then Amy and Penny went for shopping. 

Then Lenny had dinner. ^^

[silverangel]

In that scene on the memorial of this professor, when Amy said to him let's repeat all the emotional answers(I don't remember specifically what she said) for me it was something like showing him a way to understand all this nuances associated with social skills, and helps him pass through this situations. She loves him so much that she wants to help him, that he will learn his lesson like he said, but not like his mother, like a woman who loves her man so much that she wants to make his life simpler for Sheldon and for her.  
 

[Guest DroneInTheSun]

Yes, sorry, I wasn't talking about any particular scene, and I didn't mean to imply it was negative at all. I think Amy has acquired new social skills thanks to the girls and she is now "passing the knowledge" on to Sheldon. What I was saying is that it's a relatively recent development and I don't think Sheldon's gravitated towards her because she reminds him of his mother. While Amy and Mary do have some things in common in the way they deal with it, Amy has always treated him like a grown up, unlike everyone else around him, and that's what I think made them work in the first place. She gets him and doesn't think he is crazy (or at least didn't until recently). 

 

The best example of that is the Parking Lot ep, imo. At the beginning of the episode, Sheldon gets angry at Leonard for never taking his side and Leonard replies "That's because I can never understand your side!". But Amy stuck by his side throughout the episode. It was a nice little contrast between the way everyone else sees him ("You're out of your mind, Sheldon" - Howard) and she does. I would hate for that dynamic to get lost and replaced with her "mothering" him. He has Penny and Leonard for that.

 

That's why I'm not excited about The Closure Alternative at. all. I don't get why they have Amy trying to change him because 1) Sheldon doesn't want to change; 2) Amy's supposed to find his "quirks" endearing.

[Razberrypie]

That's why I'm not excited about The Closure Alternative at. all. I don't get why they have Amy trying to change him because 1) Sheldon doesn't want to change; 2) Amy's supposed to find his "quirks" endearing.

 

The way I see it, the idea was that Amy didn't set out to change his compulsive need for completion for her own personal gain but because she thought it was making his life more stressful, so working on that would help him to relax overall even if he didn't like the process. Of course he couldn't put up with the short-term stress of the 'therapy' and got fustrated with her. Amy probably could have gone about it a different way but hey, she tried.

 

Anyway I suppose we'll just have to wait for the episode to be able to pass judgement on her true motives.

Edited April 6, 2013 by Razberrypie

[koops]

Despite all the black clouds, I do find this moment incredibly endearing (thanks to Chloe, gif master):

 

      

[djvang]

Does anyone seriously doubt that Sheldon and Amy will be together when the show finally ends? Calm down. The writers are just stringing you along to keep you watching.