Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[vasu]

vasu, I agree the show has not been overt about showing any instance where Amy would not take the leap, but Amy is just as inexperienced as Sheldon.  They have made that fairly evident.   The writers have mentioned several times during fan events and interviews that both Sheldon and Amy are like  a middle-school adolescent in that both have child-like views on relationships and sex.   I truly believe that the writers are going to pull out some of Amy's "child-like" view about it all when the tables are turned a bit.   Once Sheldon finally decides to take the leap and moves forward and perhaps gets a bit more aggressive in allowing his testosterone to take over (just like a teen boy would), she might start pulling back.  That is where we are going to get glimpses of her not being ready.   I think right now, she is safe in thinking about such matters.   She romanticizes them, sees her friends having healthy sex lives and she knows that Sheldon is the only man she wants.   But she also does not have a boyfriend touching her yet, or getting intimate with her in any way.  He hasn't even kissed her in a deep fashion.  So she doesn't understand yet that once he does start becoming intimate with her, what that might mean to her personally.   It is all fantasy in her head at the moment.   But once the touching starts, that could change.  The reality of the situation will kick in and she may begin to panic.   So I think we will see her start to "freak out" slightly when Sheldon finally abandons fear to the winds and allows hormones to take over.   She may slow him down. 

 

I also believe that the writers will use this as another way to slow their relationship from moving forward too fast.  It helps buy them more time before they actually have them consummate their relationship.

 

I don't follow much of what the writers says at interviews or events...I have little knowledge about those things...

 

But from what I have seen in the show till now ......Amy clearly appears to be ready to be in a full blown relationship.... and I don't even see a little bit of ambiguity regarding this....

 

And I don't know how believable it would be if the writers go on the route you are proposing....cause I think they have moved Amy too far to make her backing down look realistic...

[stardustmelody]

I don't follow much of what the writers says at interviews or events...I have little knowledge about those things...

 

But from what I have seen in the show till now ......Amy clearly appears to be ready to be in a full blown relationship.... and I don't even see a little bit of ambiguity regarding this....

 

And I don't know how believable it would be if the writers go on the route you are proposing....cause I think they have moved Amy too far to make her backing down look realistic...

How is it unrealistic?   Amy has never had Sheldon truly touch her.   Sure she dreams big dreams.  She romanticizes him holding her, kissing her, flowering her with love and affection.   She may even dream about him making love to her.   But the reality is, he has never touched her in any intimate form.   She has shared 3-4 hand holds with him, a few hugs, one cuddle and 2 chaste kisses, one of which does does not even remember because she was drunk through it.    But she does not know what it feels like for him to touch her.

 

Amy has focused on Sheldon's fears and not even considered hers.  She wants the cuddling, kissing and hand-holding stuff so bad that she has not truly thought much beyond that.   Sure she dreams about them marrying and having children, etc.   But she has not really focused on facing fears once he does touch her.    She is inexperienced and has pre-teen like emotions right now, yet is in her early 30's (or at least probably 30).   She has focused so much on helping Sheldon overcoming his fears, she hasn't thought she would have any.  Yet as any woman, facing her "first time", she is suddenly going to face fears about her body (all women worry about their bodies).  She will suddenly feel like he is going to notice bulges that he never saw before, worry he won't like the looks of her, etc.   She will face fears about whether she will be touching him to his satisfaction (especially given a man like Sheldon this has to be a huge fear).   She will worry about whether or not she is doing things right.   She will worry that she won't like it once he does have sex with her because she has no idea whether she will or won't like it.   She will worry whether or not it will hurt and will feel a loss of some of her innocence.  Losing virginity is a big deal even if she has romanticized otherwise for now.   She will also worry he will think less of her and won't respect her (especially given a man like Sheldon).   I mean these are only the start of fears that will begin to crop up, but only once he begins to touch her more intimately (and I am not talking about pure hand-holds, cuddles, etc.), but once he begins to move around the bases.   Even French Kissing will be a bit of a fear for her because she will want to make sure he will like it.   Bottom line, she hasn't had to worry or even realize she has fears yet.  But they will come forward once she is faced with them.   While her hormones will be raging, her fears will prevent her moving forward immediately.   She will move forward, but I do believe it is entirely realistic that they can write her to become "gun-shy" once Sheldon becomes ready.

[Guest DroneInTheSun]

We have a saying in French that says "it's those who talk about it the most that do it the lesser". It's very true with Amy. As much as she talks about intimacy with her boyfriend, she has zero experience and it's not rare to see someone who's all talk actually chicken out once they can do that thing they've been talking about doing for years.

Not saying this is what is going to happen with Amy, but you still can't rule it out.

[silverangel]

vasu, I agree the show has not been overt about showing any instance where Amy would not take the leap, but Amy is just as inexperienced as Sheldon.  They have made that fairly evident.   The writers have mentioned several times during fan events and interviews that both Sheldon and Amy are like  a middle-school adolescent in that both have child-like views on relationships and sex.   I truly believe that the writers are going to pull out some of Amy's "child-like" view about it all when the tables are turned a bit.   Once Sheldon finally decides to take the leap and moves forward and perhaps gets a bit more aggressive in allowing his testosterone to take over (just like a teen boy would), she might start pulling back.  That is where we are going to get glimpses of her not being ready.   I think right now, she is safe in thinking about such matters.   She romanticizes them, sees her friends having healthy sex lives and she knows that Sheldon is the only man she wants.   But she also does not have a boyfriend touching her yet, or getting intimate with her in any way.  He hasn't even kissed her in a deep fashion.  So she doesn't understand yet that once he does start becoming intimate with her, what that might mean to her personally.   It is all fantasy in her head at the moment.   But once the touching starts, that could change.  The reality of the situation will kick in and she may begin to panic.   So I think we will see her start to "freak out" slightly when Sheldon finally abandons fear to the winds and allows hormones to take over.   She may slow him down. 

 

I also believe that the writers will use this as another way to slow their relationship from moving forward too fast.  It helps buy them more time before they actually have them consummate their relationship.

 

I agree. I think that by living together Amy was trying to be close to Sheldon, increase the level of intimacy, but by being together in everyday situations, by learning one another and by whole this little things which could make them closer to each other, and  it could have been  facilitation for them when Sheldon will be ready to move in to the physical part. It could have been  facilitation for her  because like you said she is inexperienced and everything what she knows, and what she imagined, and about what she dreamed could have been for real, good, better or worse than her imaginary and dreams, and by living together and being so close to each other often, builds a stronger bond and intimacy, and it is  large facilitate.

And that wasnt her goal to move in to Sheldon  to convince him to  sex, but her goal was to be near to him, to build this kind of emotional bond  reinforced by the trust and love, that that was the perfect medium for the transition to the physical part of the relationship.

And I agree that she has no idea how it's like to be close to someone, and be touched  and to touch someone to be with someone close as you can, and what it means for her and for him, and even if she knows what she wants and what she needs, and has certain goal, that when this moment will come, she may be frightened, embarrass, and  to have such concerns as any woman who is not so sure of her appearance, all the more that Sheldon will  see her naked.

 

[vasu]

I don't see what the big deal is ......

 

We have never seen her showing being afraid or having any fears......and she clearly enjoyed being spanked......remember from her point of view it was fully sexual.....and it looks like there are still a lot of Sheldon dealing with his fears story-lines coming up....... so I don' think after that they will have the same story-line with Amy again...

[silverangel]

How is it unrealistic?   Amy has never had Sheldon truly touch her.   Sure she dreams big dreams.  She romanticizes him holding her, kissing her, flowering her with love and affection.   She may even dream about him making love to her.   But the reality is, he has never touched her in any intimate form.   She has shared 3-4 hand holds with him, a few hugs, one cuddle and 2 chaste kisses, one of which does does not even remember because she was drunk through it.    But she does not know what it feels like for him to touch her.

 

Amy has focused on Sheldon's fears and not even considered hers.  She wants the cuddling, kissing and hand-holding stuff so bad that she has not truly thought much beyond that.   Sure she dreams about them marrying and having children, etc.   But she has not really focused on facing fears once he does touch her.    She is inexperienced and has pre-teen like emotions right now, yet is in her early 30's (or at least probably 30).   She has focused so much on helping Sheldon overcoming his fears, she hasn't thought she would have any.  Yet as any woman, facing her "first time", she is suddenly going to face fears about her body (all women worry about their bodies).  She will suddenly feel like he is going to notice bulges that he never saw before, worry he won't like the looks of her, etc.   She will face fears about whether she will be touching him to his satisfaction (especially given a man like Sheldon this has to be a huge fear).   She will worry about whether or not she is doing things right.   She will worry that she won't like it once he does have sex with her because she has no idea whether she will or won't like it.   She will worry whether or not it will hurt and will feel a loss of some of her innocence.  Losing virginity is a big deal even if she has romanticized otherwise for now.   She will also worry he will think less of her and won't respect her (especially given a man like Sheldon).   I mean these are only the start of fears that will begin to crop up, but only once he begins to touch her more intimately (and I am not talking about pure hand-holds, cuddles, etc.), but once he begins to move around the bases.   Even French Kissing will be a bit of a fear for her because she will want to make sure he will like it.   Bottom line, she hasn't had to worry or even realize she has fears yet.  But they will come forward once she is faced with them.   While her hormones will be raging, her fears will prevent her moving forward immediately.   She will move forward, but I do believe it is entirely realistic that they can write her to become "gun-shy" once Sheldon becomes ready.

 

You noticed it perfectly. She Is so focused on him that she is forgetting about her fears. She idealized it and has so romantic soul that when that time will come that kind of thoughts will come to her "How to do it, will he like it, what would happen if I will scare him, maybe it's to much...whether it will pleased him what he will  see, did he find me atractive and sexy...and he saw Penny naked and I'm not that sexy as she...

I think that it will take time considering  that Sheldon is inexperienced and full of fears, maybe some science curiosity to study analizing this could help them, but I think that love and trust is he key, they need to meet half way to talk about what they feel and what they want from one another.

I wonder how the writers will do this... no matter how long, but what they come up with to build that kind of emotional intimacy and closeness, and to what extent they want to change him... they can not have, cake and eat it too

[Misophonia]

Aww. Thank you, stardustmelody. I talked to Granddaddy Cooper. He thinks you're a hoot and a half as well. LOL.

 

Misophonia

 

 

I like all of these fics a lot.  I also love The Family Reunion Probability Theorem.  It is hilarious, especially the great-grandaddy.   Oh my gosh it is funny.   Another cute fic that is a shorter multi-chapter fic is The Double Girlfriend Dissent.   Very cute.

[silverangel]

I don't see what the big deal is ......

 

We have never seen her showing being afraid or having any fears......and she clearly enjoyed being spanked......remember from her point of view it was fully sexual.....and it looks like there are still a lot of Sheldon dealing with his fears story-lines coming up....... so I don' think after that they will have the same story-line with Amy again...

 

The fact that she liked it when he spanked her it just means  that she wants him so bad, but he had never touched her, or she him in so intimate in a special way. They had never seen each other naked, and she never thought about this moment more, or  what it means to her. He  will see delicate fragile person who is not only naked physically, but also emotionally, and in every way.

This is a special and very personal moment, and when we see a person who never did it, virgin, if she even thought that spanking was so sexy and hot, she doesn't not know whether she  will be confident at herself in such an intimate moment ,  she doesn't know how it is, so she can imagine  and she wants it very much, but she really doesn't know what  she will feels and whether to be afraid or not. Because she is too focused on his problems and fears.

[AdorkablyMe]

Perhaps one day they will both be horny enough. Fingers crossed!

[koops]

I don't think anyone is saying that that's the way it will go down, it's just a possibility. The writers might choose to change things up a bit with a "be careful what you wish for" scenario. I think she's so bold because she knows Sheldon won't budge. She pushes him 2 miles to get an inch. But if she were to push him 2 miles and have him turn around and give 3 will she be prepared for it? I think the writers could still play a "whoa whoa" moment to slow things down, it wouldn't be unrealistic. Again, they might not go there and probably won't, but I don't think Amy's boldness is mutually exclusive of future potential panic.

[tmp]

Perhaps one day they will both be horny enough. Fingers crossed!

 

He first has to figure out he has a libido.  Maybe it will be stronger than his fear of getting cooties from touching.

[koops]

Well, his genitals are functional at least  

[AdorkablyMe]

He first has to figure out he has a libido.  Maybe it will be stronger than his fear of getting cooties from touching.

Key word: enough. He has to be horny enough.

[vasu]

The fact that she liked it when he spanked her it just means  that she wants him so bad, but he had never touched her, or she him in so intimate in a special way. They had never seen each other naked, and she never thought about this moment more, or  what it means to her. He  will see delicate fragile person who is not only naked physically, but also emotionally, and in every way.

This is a special and very personal moment, and when we see a person who never did it, virgin, if she even thought that spanking was so sexy and hot, she doesn't not know whether she  will be confident at herself in such an intimate moment ,  she doesn't know how it is, so she can imagine  and she wants it very much, but she really doesn't know what  she will feels and whether to be afraid or not. Because she is too focused on his problems and fears.

 

And how do you know all this??? I have never seen anything like this referenced in any episode....

 

I don't think anyone is saying that that's the way it will go down, it's just a possibility. The writers might choose to change things up a bit with a "be careful what you wish for" scenario. I think she's so bold because she knows Sheldon won't budge. She pushes him 2 miles to get an inch. But if she were to push him 2 miles and have him turn around and give 3 will she be prepared for it? I think the writers could still play a "whoa whoa" moment to slow things down, it wouldn't be unrealistic. Again, they might not go there and probably won't, but I don't think Amy's boldness is mutually exclusive of future potential panic.

 

From the way things are going now....it seems like the concentration of writers is solely focused on Sheldon's fear...which likely is going to be a ongoing storyline...

 

this 2 mile 3 mile thing I think has already been done...Amy had him bathing her....but then when he wanted to spank her....she happily went along with it.....

 

Ofcouse I cannot say that the writers won't go there or will go there in future.....but as of now I cannot see any hints of Amy trying to slow their relationship down when Sheldon is trying to advance them....... and come-on this isn't Rocket science ..... 

 

If I were to create a poll asking would  Amy jump Sheldon if he agrees to have coitus with her....i can see almost everyone saying yes at this point....

Edited April 8, 2013 by vasu

[stardustmelody]

Yes...he is a big obstacle in this.  His fears are huge and will have to be overcome...she isn't even thinking at all about any she might have.   She is so focused on his.   But as Koops said,  if she were to give him the two miles only for him to take 3, the writers very well might show her side of the "virgin" story and her fears may surface.  Bottom line, the writers ALWAYS focus on Sheldon, not Amy.  Amy is there to tell his side of the story it seems.  They have not revealed to us anything about Amy really.   And that includes any of her own fears and doubts.   We likely won't get those until or if they want to bring them out.  They may never want to do so, but at least they still have the opportunity to do so. It is not by any means too late for them to have her develop fears.   It is not too late for us to learn she has her own hang-ups.   We just don't get many of those right now.   I am hoping they do show more of Amy's story.   The show has been very Sheldon-centric and I think fans are starting to say...hey what about the other people on the show?    They are going to have to balance and show more stories.  They took a big leap and did more with Howard this year.  They need to do the same for other characters.

Edited April 8, 2013 by stardustmelody

[silverangel]

And how do you know all this??? I have never seen anything like this referenced in any episode....

 

 

From the way things are going now....it seems like the concentration of writers is solely focused on Sheldon's fear...which likely is going to be a ongoing storyline...

 

this 2 mile 3 mile thing I think has already been done...Amy had him bathing her....but then when he wanted to spank her....she happily went along with it.....

 

Ofcouse I cannot say that the writers won't go there or will go there in future.....but as of now I cannot see any hints of Amy trying to slow their relationship down when Sheldon is trying to advance them....... and come-on this isn't Rocket science ..... 

 

If I were to create a poll asking would  Amy jump Sheldon if he agrees to have coitus with her....i can see almost everyone saying yes at this point....

 And how you know that I'm wrong... not  everything is black and white as you think..

Edited April 8, 2013 by silverangelD

[CaitAmber]

Holy never-ending discussion Batman. 

Can we move on please? 

The next person that starts discussing an exhausted topic gets

 

PUSHED 

 

Get yourselves in line, peasants! 

[CaitAmber]

 You people really do know that these characters aren't real, right? RIGHT?

[koops]

[stardustmelody]

I guess I am trying to figure out why fans are being chastised here for talking about the show?  Isn't that the point of the forum?   Sometimes we talk about some topics longer than others, but that is okay, isn't it?  I mean if people still have something to say, why make them feel bad?   Now I am feeling like I am not allowed to post and that makes me sad.  I am sure others are going to feel chastised as much as I feel right now and don't understand what I did that was so bad.   No one else was introducing a new topic.  I have no problem changing topics, but if there is something still to say about a certain topic that people wish to chime in about, is that so bad?

[AdorkablyMe]

 You people really do know that these characters aren't real, right? RIGHT?

If it's not a big deal to you then why are you here in the Shamy thread? Silly fun sucker.

[CaitAmber]

I guess I am trying to figure out why fans are being chastised here for talking about the show?  Isn't that the point of the forum?   Sometimes we talk about some topics longer than others, but that is okay, isn't it?  I mean if people still have something to say, why make them feel bad?   Now I am feeling like I am not allowed to post and that makes me sad.  I am sure others are going to feel chastised as much as I feel right now and don't understand what I did that was so bad.   No one else was introducing a new topic.  I have no problem changing topics, but if there is something still to say about a certain topic that people wish to chime in about, is that so bad?

*slow hug* 

I wasn't referring to my girls. 

*strokes*

 

 

[AdorkablyMe]

It's not a big deal to me. Just wanted to see what goes on over here. It's like crashing a slumber party. Too creepy for me.

Denial. Denial, denial.

[CaitAmber]

It's not a big deal to me. Just wanted to see what goes on over here. It's like crashing a slumber party. Too creepy for me.

You're adorable. 

 

C'mere you. 

[delsino]

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