Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[Guest DroneInTheSun]

Like I said in the taping report topic, I'm finding this finale very underwhelming, but the complete lack of interaction on the Shamy front is the cherry on the cake of disappointement. Seems like a nice episode overall, but definitely not finale worthy, and after the wedding/launch of last year, it doesn't come off as low key, it comes off as really cheap.

[Sheps88]

ATSKA (RIP until next year).

[koops]

I think there is probably a very good reason why they tried to avoid any Shamy interaction: because after what happened between them, I bet there's a significant shift to be expected in their relationship. Either the writers didn't feel like an episode centered on Lenny and Raj was the place to show it for the first time, or they just want 6x23 to be the status quo for now, until they regroup for the summer and develop the "new" Shamy. It is disappointing because I was looking forward to at least one line to show me how the dynamic has changed, but at the same time I think I'm happier that there is no interaction AT ALL rather than having normal interaction as if nothing happened. We didn't see them interact, so we can't say for sure that things are as they used to be.

[Guest DroneInTheSun]

I kind of am hoping something from their body language at the good bye party for Leonard. They'll be in the same room, they're bound to at least exchange a glance or something. If there isn't anything, I'll be really disappointed. I really wanted a follow up on 6x23. But, oh, well, they have a whole summer to get to explore this new dynamic in their relationship. Too bad that we won't be seeing any of it.

[Retroluv]

I think there is probably a very good reason why they tried to avoid any Shamy interaction: because after what happened between them, I bet there's a significant shift to be expected in their relationship. Either the writers didn't feel like an episode centered on Lenny and Raj was the place to show it for the first time, or they just want 6x23 to be the status quo for now, until they regroup for the summer and develop the "new" Shamy. It is disappointing because I was looking forward to at least one line to show me how the dynamic has changed, but at the same time I think I'm happier that there is no interaction AT ALL rather than having normal interaction as if nothing happened. We didn't see them interact, so we can't say for sure that things are as they used to be.

Koops, this is exactly what I was trying to say in the chat last night, but I don't think I was very clear. Thanks for making this point!

[tmp]

I really like Amy's role in the finale.  Instead of being the awkward one, she got to be the welcoming friend to put someone else at ease.  To me, that's a nice character development.

 

I know we would have liked something physical to tie up the season but if we look at 6.23 and 6.24 as together being the finale, everybody's story got some attention--except for H/B, who were due to be sidelined a bit after all the focus on them last year.  I'm glad Raj had some more air time, because he was overdue for some development and storylines.  Not every finale can be as dramatic as a space launch.  We finally got a big mutual ILY between Lenny, one major leap forward for Raj, and (if we're calling 6.23 part of the finale) a turning point for Shamy.  Not bad.

 

It occurs to me that Penny will not want to drive Sheldon to work every day.  Wouldn't it make sense for Amy to sleep over in Leonard's room from time to time since she'll need to be there early to take Sheldon to work?

[Guest DroneInTheSun]

Maybe Sheldon and Amy are gonna engage in cyber-coitus all summer long as a nod to both 6x23 and the neck massage from season 4. 

[SRAM]

I am a Lenny shipper, but I so agree with everyone who says there should have been a Shamy moment in this episode. Leonard's leaving impacts Penny and Sheldon the most. Penny can take care of herself, but who is going to take care of Sheldon, Howard or Raj? I think not. There should have been a scene where Sheldon confesses his fears to Amy, about what is going to happen to him when Leonard leaves, and Amy telling him she would be there for him. This scene should have a hand-hold or hug or small kiss in it, to make it personal between them. The writers blew this episode, they were lazy.

[Kasey]

I totally understand where some may feel cheated as to no specific interaction between Amy and Sheldon but might we look at it this way - Leonard will be gone for 4 months that would presumably include the season opener of season 7 at the very least.  Maybe the writers are waiting to focus on how Sheldon is reacting to Leonard not being there as opposed to supposing how Sheldon will react.

 

I would think there would be much more "goodies" coming out finding out how much Amy had to step up to do things for Sheldon.  Also it gives fans a whole summer to imagine how much Amy had to be there for Sheldon and as someone suggested possibly staying overnight to drive him to work in the morning. 

 

Just a thought...

[stardustmelody]

Monique..

 

Any further tidbits you can give us?  Were there any looks shared across the room kind of thing between Shamy and were there any behind the scenes things you can share?  What was the mood of the cast?

 

Bless you again for your report.

[koops]

I kind of am hoping something from their body language at the good bye party for Leonard. They'll be in the same room, they're bound to at least exchange a glance or something. If there isn't anything, I'll be really disappointed. I really wanted a follow up on 6x23. But, oh, well, they have a whole summer to get to explore this new dynamic in their relationship. Too bad that we won't be seeing any of it.

 

That depends on where they pick up from next season. I honestly don't see ANY point in Leonard leaving just to have him come back in the premiere. I am hoping we will get at least a couple of episodes to explore the dynamic with Leonard gone. Like many have said, Amy will undoubtedly hang out there a lot and it would be a great occasion for her to start spending the night occasionally, it would be a waste not to exploit that opportunity.

 

 

 

I am a Lenny shipper, but I so agree with everyone who says there should have been a Shamy moment in this episode. Leonard's leaving impacts Penny and Sheldon the most. Penny can take care of herself, but who is going to take care of Sheldon, Howard or Raj? I think not. There should have been a scene where Sheldon confesses his fears to Amy, about what is going to happen to him when Leonard leaves, and Amy telling him she would be there for him. This scene should have a hand-hold or hug or small kiss in it, to make it personal between them. The writers blew this episode, they were lazy.

 

I understand why they went the direction they did, but I do agree with you. I am very surprised this was not addressed at all, and, to be honest, they are really putting some pressure on themselves next season because, imo, there's no way you can re-start Shamy as they used to be given everything that transpired in 6x23.

[rachelshamyfan]

There is some bts stuff on the spoiler thread on the other forum

[stardustmelody]

Thanks rach...after reading it...it sounds like the cast was even a little "off" as well as the script.   I think the cast often reflect what they see in a script.  Since the script was stale it sounds like they were as well (long pauses, etc.).   I have to admit, it may be better to have witnessed than what it sounds like so far, but it is rather disappointing for a sweeps month and finale.   I would have thought they would have brought out all the big guns for this one.   Instead they played it very "safe".   I do think it will be  entertaining and has some funny lines in it, but again, just comes across rather "meh" for a season finale...during sweeps no less.

 

Word for this episode:  Lackluster.

Edited April 17, 2013 by stardustmelody

[Kiru Breezy]

Tbbt is notorious for the non follow up. After Amy officially becomes his gf, penny says ily etc.

I loved Amy not being an extension of Sheldon in this episode.

[amethyst]

I am a Lenny shipper, but I so agree with everyone who says there should have been a Shamy moment in this episode. Leonard's leaving impacts Penny and Sheldon the most. Penny can take care of herself, but who is going to take care of Sheldon, Howard or Raj? I think not. There should have been a scene where Sheldon confesses his fears to Amy, about what is going to happen to him when Leonard leaves, and Amy telling him she would be there for him. This scene should have a hand-hold or hug or small kiss in it, to make it personal between them. The writers blew this episode, they were lazy.

Agreed.This could have taken place at the going away party, maybe in the kitchen away from the others.It could have been used to show a subtle movement forward in their relationship following what happened in ep 23.

If season 7 starts with Leonard returning then there has to be a different Shamy relationship for it to be believable IMO.Amy could not have spent 4 months taking care of Sheldon and things still remain the same.It's a pity we most likely won't get to see this play out on screen.I think the writers missed a great opportunity here.

[stardustmelody]

Even just a glance at each other and a knowing look between them would have helped.

[notchinc]

Im thinking eye coitus is in order.

[BazingaFan]

I feel there was more progress for shamy in season 4 than in seasons 5 and 6 combined.  That is why season 4 is one of my favorites... so much shamy and so much progress.... and then, we had some in the beginning of season 5 and then.... how slow can we go? 

 

I don't really understand the lack of shamy in the finale.  I was so certain that what happened with them in the episode before was a lead-in to the finale.  I'm sure others will think the same as well, and be disappointed.

 

Oh well.  Tis life.  It'll be a long summer.

Edited April 17, 2013 by BazingaFan

[ShamyForever]

I am disappointed in the finale.   It is really meh for a finale.  It doesn't really even sound interesting at all to me.  This will probably be one of the handful of episodes of must skip episodes in the future.   I can't believe that there was not even one Shamy scene.   Since we know that the script was not even written a week & half before table read, it appears that this episode was rushed.  

 

I hope things improve in S7.   There was not much Shamy in S6 as there was in other seasons.   Time for them to step up with Shamy development in S7.  

[Tensor]

I am disappointed in the finale.   It is really meh for a finale.  It doesn't really even sound interesting at all to me.  This will probably be one of the handful of episodes of must skip episodes in the future.   I can't believe that there was not even one Shamy scene.   Since we know that the script was not even written a week & half before table read, it appears that this episode was rushed.

 

I really don't think this is fair. As I pointed out in the taping thread, in the three weeks after Penny's ILY, L/P had two scenes (and one fashion show) together and only one of those was by themselves. And their first scene together wasn't until two weeks after the ILY episode. I can fully understand the disappointment, but it's not unusually for this show to do this.

 

I hope things improve in S7.   There was not much Shamy in S6 as there was in other seasons.   Time for them to step up with Shamy development in S7.

I'm AM looking forward to their development next year, even though I am a L/P fan.

[koops]

Part of me is disappointed that we got no Shamy interaction at all, and part of me thinks it's not that big of a deal. I do think it was a bit lazy because while a big Shamy moment was probably out of place in this episode, given that they had such a big one right before, they could have at least had a moment between the two of them to show us how things have progressed since their D&D sex. But at the same time it's very typical of TPTB to completely stop a couple from interacting after big moments, they did that with Lenny and the ILY. Not saying it's a good thing, but it's not a sign of a bad thing either. I think it's a bad habit that the show has not to address the big occasions right away and try to maintain the status quo, it's not just done to Shamy. They are really reluctant to show the changes in the characters so evidently. I also think the Shamy post 6x23 will have to be a different Shamy, and maybe they want to take the summer to re-group and map out the new direction. I think by now they really need to step up on the physical side of things, and that involves a lot of re-thinking the way they write Sheldon. I think they seem to have done a great job in 6x23 but we have seen how he was all over the place towards the end of the season. They need time to figure that out so that doesn't happen again.

[BazingaFan]

Part of me is disappointed that we got no Shamy interaction at all, and part of me thinks it's not that big of a deal. I do think it was a bit lazy because while a big Shamy moment was probably out of place in this episode, given that they had such a big one right before, they could have at least had a moment between the two of them to show us how things have progressed since their D&D sex. But at the same time it's very typical of TPTB to completely stop a couple from interacting after big moments, they did that with Lenny and the ILY. Not saying it's a good thing, but it's not a sign of a bad thing either. I think it's a bad habit that the show has not to address the big occasions right away and try to maintain the status quo, it's not just done to Shamy. They are really reluctant to show the changes in the characters so evidently. I also think the Shamy post 6x23 will have to be a different Shamy, and maybe they want to take the summer to re-group and map out the new direction. I think by now they really need to step up on the physical side of things, and that involves a lot of re-thinking the way they write Sheldon. I think they seem to have done a great job in 6x23 but we have seen how he was all over the place towards the end of the season. They need time to figure that out so that doesn't happen again.

 

 

This is true.  I may feel better once I see the episodes, too.  Episode 23 may be so awesome that it might hold me through the finale and the summer.  I just hope they open with Leonard still gone for several episodes... so many possibilities for the shamy with him gone.  Season 7 could be the best yet.

[Vero]

I don't think Leonard is gone for several episode but I wish he comes back at least at the end of the first episode. In this way, the season premiere can be a flashback of what happen during the summer between sheldon/Amy, sheldon/Penny, Penny/Amy/Bernadette, etc....

[stardustmelody]

I am curious to see it and I am sure I will enjoy it just fine.  But overall this does not feel like a sweeps episode much less a finale.  It seems rather lackluster for a finale.   There really are very few resolutions other than Raj's story which seems very bizarre.

 

Raj and Lucy were building last week and kissed for the first time.  Suddenly this week she freaks, breaks up with him and he instantly is cured (no real explanation as to how even).   His reaction to the break-up isn't that great, when he reacted a lot more earlier in their relationship to her dumping him on the date.   Very odd...such a strange and rushed story.

 

Then the Lenny story again seemed off to me all the way around.  I feel like, even when in a mature relationship, you show reaction to your loved one leaving you for four months to a long distance where you may or may not have contact issues on a regular basis.   Yet Penny acts like she is perfectly content and happy Leonard will be gone.  She has absolutely no sad feelings whatsoever.   In fact she ends up going from the airport to see Raj and then later has her gal pals over to party and Raj joins them.  Very odd.

 

Sheldon, while he did show some jealousy reaction, shows absolutely no reaction about Leonard leaving and what it will do to disrupt his schedule.  There is no explanation or even discussion about that part of the move.   Again, very odd.

 

I am not really "disappointed" as much as surprised there was no Shamy interaction.  It wasn't because of them as a couple I was surprised, but more because I would have thought there would have been some offer to help Sheldon in the four-month period deal with his routine.   Yet there was none. 

 

I have to believe that perhaps this will make more sense when Season 7 starts, or I hope so.  But another part of me keeps hearing Molaro say that the script had not been written two weeks ago and they didn't know what would be in the finale at that time.   Since he made that remark, I keep feeling like it was a rushed script, that they didn't really arc it well and that we may be shocked when the next season starts that there is no continuity and they just go forward without ever letting us understand the "coping" aspect. That is what really concerns me.   I feel that would be the only reason to have this episode make any sense ...would be to watch how both Penny and Sheldon cope with Leonard's absence and to show how much Leonard is the nucleus of the group.   Yet part of me fears they may not go there in S7.  If that is the case, then the finale will be one of the most bizarre season endings ever.

[CaitAmber]

Monique, I've been keeping at eye on the post count ever since you mentioned the joking goal of us hitting 10,000 posts.

 

It could very well be possible... Especially when 6.23 airs.