Ship Zone The Shamy Thread! (Season 6 Edition-Spoilers)

[koops]

Are we absolutely sure about the number of seasons, though? We're all assuming the show is going to be ten seasons long but has it been confirmed or is it just speculations? Because if nothing has been said, we can also start entertaining the idea that the seventh season could be the last and then your scenario would be perfect.

 

No, there's no certainty about the number of seasons, but it's pretty much a given they'll be renewed for S8. Someone might correct me if I'm wrong but I was given to understand that series this far in their runs are only renewed yearly and not given multi-extensions? In which case they'll just go year by year. 10 seasons was speculation based on how strong the show is right now, but if they renew it yearly who knows when they will start running out of steam. Might happen earlier, might happen later. I do agree though that once we get to S9 it will be hard to make L/S living together and not with P/A realistic.

[stardustmelody]

Welcome ProudShamyShipper!   Glad to have another shipper!

 

Koops, I agree with you.  I think 6.15 was a foreshadow, but it is something not very soon.  Probably S8 at the earliest.   Second, I also agree that the apartment was always Sheldon's in the first place.  It really is his apartment and Leonard rents a room from him.   That is how it was established in earlier seasons.   So if anyone moves out of the apartment, I would guess it would be Leonard, not Sheldon.  I don't even think Leonard would ask Sheldon to move out.   Sheldon hates change so I don't see him moving out as well.

[phantagrae]

Are we absolutely sure about the number of seasons, though? We're all assuming the show is going to be ten seasons long but has it been confirmed or is it just speculations? Because if nothing has been said, we can also start entertaining the idea that the seventh season could be the last and then your scenario would be perfect.

 

There's no way the seventh season is the end.  They're still flying way too high and none of the actors seems interested in jumping ship any time soon.  They all have expressed the desire to stay as long as the show runs and CBS isn't going to let go of the #1 comedy in America (and in many other countries as well) at this point.

 

The actors and others involved may have more negotiating power whenever it comes up again, but CBS is apparently immensely happy with the success of the show, the cast and crew seem to still be happy, and the audience is still showing up in droves.  That doesn't happen for most 7-yr-old shows.

 

There's no way CBS is going to let go of this show at this point.

[stardustmelody]

No, there's no certainty about the number of seasons, but it's pretty much a given they'll be renewed for S8. Someone might correct me if I'm wrong but I was given to understand that series this far in their runs are only renewed yearly and not given multi-extensions? In which case they'll just go year by year. 10 seasons was speculation based on how strong the show is right now, but if they renew it yearly who knows when they will start running out of steam. Might happen earlier, might happen later. I do agree though that once we get to S9 it will be hard to make L/S living together and not with P/A realistic.

 

I don't know for certain about the contract limitations.  I would not be so certain they can only be renewed annually now.   That might be the case, but I can't say it is for certain.  What we do know is that Two and a Half Men is going for their 11th season and that show is horrible in comparison to BBT.   BBT has broken records for ratings and seems to be holding strong so there is no reason to believe they will not continue to renew.  Also, from what we can tell, the actors are more than content to continue on and hope for 10 seasons.   So I think they are in great shape to be renewed, as Koops said at least through season 8.

[Guest DroneInTheSun]

Welcome ProudShamyShipper!   Glad to have another shipper!

 

Koops, I agree with you.  I think 6.15 was a foreshadow, but it is something not very soon.  Probably S8 at the earliest.   Second, I also agree that the apartment was always Sheldon's in the first place.  It really is his apartment and Leonard rents a room from him.   That is how it was established in earlier seasons.   So if anyone moves out of the apartment, I would guess it would be Leonard, not Sheldon.  I don't even think Leonard would ask Sheldon to move out.   Sheldon hates change so I don't see him moving out as well.

 

I don't know, obviously Sheldon hates change but that's why I like the idea of him taking the decision to actually move out (rather than watch Leonard move out) so appealing. I feel like that, more than anything else (apart from maybe having sex with Amy), would show an unprecedented character growth. I like Sheldon, but there is only so many seasons of a stoic character I can watch before thinking the writers are treating their audience like idiots, so I do hope that at some point, he won't be that against change (I'm not expecting him to become a hippie either, though, lbr this is Sheldon we're talking about).

 

As for his apartment having been his first, that's a good point I had not thought of, but once again, I think seeing a selfless Sheldon deciding to leave the Lenny live on their own would show a great deal of character growth, so I don't believe it's that much of a contradiction with my wishes. Actually, I think the problem here would probably turn out to be Leonard, rather than Sheldon, as he'd feel guilty of essentially kicking Sheldon out of his home (I don't see Penny losing too much sleep over this though.)

[MJistheBOMB]

Welcome, Proud! So glad you can join us.

[silverangel]

Welcome ProudShamyShipper in our kingdom. It's great that our Shamy army it's detting stronger...

[stardustmelody]

Lost, it could be.  Your scenario certainly has some valid and interesting points.  I suspect, however, his growth and selflessness is going to show more with interaction with Amy than anyone (or I hope it does since that is what we want...a strong, loving, and equal relationship between them).   I still believe the writers are going to believe that the apartment is and always will be Sheldon's.  Just my gut feel.

[amethyst]

Welcome ProudShamyShipper.I'm a new member of the Sharmy myself.It's great fun

[koops]

It's just my personal preference that the apartment remains Sheldon's. But I understand the writers could do anything, and it would indeed be a selfless act, but I find it kind of sad for him to move out and move into Penny's alone. It would be like he's been left behind by his buddy, in a way, that Leonard has outgrown Sheldon. It's bittersweet, and I don't know if I'd like to see that on this show. I would rather they both moved on with their SOs, if they have to part way as roommates. If it has to come down to Sheldon doing his selfless act and leaving his apartment (and his spot!) behind, I'd rather he moved in with Amy at hers.

[amethyst]

Koops,i quite like the idea of Sheldon moving into Amy's apartment.After all we have seen a certain amount of Shamy "action"on her couch.It would be fun seeing that develop

[stardustmelody]

After reflecting, I do wonder if Amy's statement about moving out, buying a home, getting married, starting a family was more than a hint about marriage, but also about potentially having him move out into a home with Amy?   I still think the purpose of that was more about "marriage" than anything, but it could be about that possibility of him moving out and moving somewhere with Amy so her apartment might be the place, or they could get their own place.  Bottom line, the writers will write it and we will watch it all unfold and be there with them whatever they decide to do with the living arrangements.  I do agree that I prefer to see Sheldon moving on with Amy instead of by himself in Penny's old apartment. I think that would be a bit weird.

[koops]

I don't think that was foreshadowing much as just a hint of where their relationship might go in the future, but probably even beyond the show. I was very worried about that line, I'm VERY relieved they didn't have Sheldon shoot her down but be neutral about it. 

[Shel_Ra_Ho_Le]

I don't know for certain about the contract limitations.  I would not be so certain they can only be renewed annually now.   That might be the case, but I can't say it is for certain.  What we do know is that Two and a Half Men is going for their 11th season and that show is horrible in comparison to BBT.   BBT has broken records for ratings and seems to be holding strong so there is no reason to believe they will not continue to renew.  Also, from what we can tell, the actors are more than content to continue on and hope for 10 seasons.   So I think they are in great shape to be renewed, as Koops said at least through season 8.

 

Ah, shit!  No way!  Is this certain?

[eirwinrommel]

I don't know, there's something I find depressing about Sheldon being chased out of his own apartment. Because, after all, it was his apartment first and he's lived there forever now. Maybe it's just me. If it weren't for the fact that I have no idea how they could drag it out with Lenny for that long, my ideal scenario would be: last episode of the series, Leonard moves out and Amy moves in.

I've always maintained that Penny and Sheldon should switch Apts. Sheldon has claimed in the past that the only reason he has a roommate is financial. Obviously a single would be cheaper than a 2 bdroom. This would allow Sheldon to set things up to his own schedule without having to put up with a roommate. Of course he'd have to come to some arrangement with someone to drive him around (or start taking cabs) but Amy would probably be willing to help out. Then when he and Amy get closer He won't have any excuse to put her off with.

[Tensor]

Contracts can still be multi year. It's just that after the first contract (six years normally) the variegates of Television dictate caution on the networks part to make sure they aren't forced to pay for something that isn't being broadcast. I would be very surprised if the next contract for TBBT wasn't for at least two years, considering their ratings. That would take them to nine years.

The cast of Friends signed two, two-year extensions (six for the original, four for the extensions for their ten year run). They also got a piece of the syndication deal starting with the fifth year. It was mentioned in an article last year, on the highest paid actresses, that Kaley is also getting money from syndication. Since the timing would indicate that their royalties started with, at least the fourth year, it could be that syndication payments were part of their renegotiation of their salaries. That would make it seem that Jim and Johnny would also be getting syndication money. You can bet that part of the next negotiations will include an increase in the royalties for syndication also. I've got no information as to the other four, but if they are not getting royalties yet (such as Mayim and Melissa due to when they started with the show), I'm sure they will be part of the next round of contracts.

[Shel_Ra_Ho_Le]

Most of the times shows can get renewed in multi year deals and I'm sure that TBBT will get 8 and 9 but I honestly hope that is all they take it to.  I really dont want them to overstay their welcome like HIMYM, Friends, That '70 and Roseanne did.  I want this show to go out with the audience wanting more.  That way a reunion is more possible.

Edited April 19, 2013 by Shel_Ra_Ho_Le

[Guest DroneInTheSun]

I've always maintained that Penny and Sheldon should switch Apts. Sheldon has claimed in the past that the only reason he has a roommate is financial. Obviously a single would be cheaper than a 2 bdroom. This would allow Sheldon to set things up to his own schedule without having to put up with a roommate. Of course he'd have to come to some arrangement with someone to drive him around (or start taking cabs) but Amy would probably be willing to help out. Then when he and Amy get closer He won't have any excuse to put her off with.

 

It's been said, but it doesn't make much sense. Sheldon has money, if the price he was ready to spend on Amy's V-Day present is of any indication. I think the only reason why he wanted a roommate is that, in spite of everything he says against people, Sheldon is someone who cannot function properly without people around him. Which is why, if he were to move out, he would either move in with Amy or move into 4B because Leonard and Penny would only be a corridor away.

[eirwinrommel]

It's been said, but it doesn't make much sense. Sheldon has money, if the price he was ready to spend on Amy's V-Day present is of any indication. I think the only reason why he wanted a roommate is that, in spite of everything he says against people, Sheldon is someone who cannot function properly without people around him. Which is why, if he were to move out, he would either move in with Amy or move into 4B because Leonard and Penny would only be a corridor away.

Oh, I agree he can afford where he lives. But I think he'd prefer to live alone, while still having others drive/help him. L/P might agree to continue to drive/help as an incentive for him to switch. Also with L/P having the bigger Apt. all of the group activities would take place there, thus ensuring even more privacy for Sheldon.

[Pomita]

And, having said all of that, as much as I do find the possibility of the living arrangements changing up quite interesting (if you think about it, it would be quite unique and Shamy-like to move in together before they even have sex and live in separate bedrooms), it does unsettles me to lose the whole L/S at 4A dynamic. So I'm not really sure what I want.

 

 

I agree. I admit I'm one of those with a hang-up about L/S being in 4A.. that set-up being changed would feel huge to me, and not necessarily in a good way. (And Sheldon moving into 4B alone? My first reaction: noooo!)

 

On the other hand, I have faith in the writers, so I'm pretty sure they could come up with some way of doing this that I would be okay with (if they plan to go down that path). Personally, I would be relatively most comfortable with the 6-15 imagined scenario - S/A in 4A and L/P in 4B. But I do think they're going to wait a while (at least one more season) before doing anything major like this.

 

Welcome to Proud!

 

Re the poll.. voted. Interesting (and nice) to see that Amy is getting third position as favorite character, right after Sheldon and Penny.

Edited April 20, 2013 by Pomita

[Nogravitasatall]

Most of the times shows can get renewed in multi year deals and I'm sure that TBBT will get 8 and 9 but I honestly hope that is all they take it to. I really dont want them to overstay their welcome like HIMYM, Friends, That '70 and Roseanne did. I want this show to go out with the audience wanting more. That way a reunion is more possible.

I get you with wanting absence of dead horse flogging. Not sure about a reunion being a good thing. My thought is that such are usually more dead horse. I'd like to be reminded of any successes so I can get on board with you. Even "Serenity" didn't do great box office. (Which was sad and unbelievable).

Edited April 20, 2013 by Nogravitasatall

[CaitAmber]

Just a reminder guys, that my hotseat is still open so if you have any questions rattling around in your brains, I'd love to answer them!  

 

 

 

 

[AndyRenee]

I actually thought that line was a nice little jab to the haters who consider their relationship a joke or a pretend-relationship. And I love that it was followed by possibly the most mature display of boyfriend-hood Sheldon has ever displayed on the show. I think a lot of the time people like to dismiss Shamy as a pretend-relationship where Sheldon doesn't really "mean it" that they're in a relationship, he's just calling it that, but here you have him not only say that he doesn't see their relationship as a joke but that he finds it extremely intimate. By his standards, this is the most intimate he's ever been with a person, it's absurd that people try to fit their criteria of romance to this character and completely ignore the context of who Sheldon is. And it was nice to finally hear it out loud and see confirmation that he does take it seriously and he is trying to grow and he is growing. 

 

On another note, I just read a really nice post by Chiara in the Lenny thread that was saying how the writers' reluctance to "change" Sheldon is actually holding Lenny back too. It's a very interesting point that I never considered before, and one more reason why they really need to start letting the baby bird fly out of the nest a little or they'll risk dragging not only Shamy but Lenny into a weird limbo of stagnation.

All hail Jester Koops! 

[koops]

I've always maintained that Penny and Sheldon should switch Apts. Sheldon has claimed in the past that the only reason he has a roommate is financial. Obviously a single would be cheaper than a 2 bdroom. This would allow Sheldon to set things up to his own schedule without having to put up with a roommate. Of course he'd have to come to some arrangement with someone to drive him around (or start taking cabs) but Amy would probably be willing to help out. Then when he and Amy get closer He won't have any excuse to put her off with.

 

I agree with Lost, I think Sheldon uses finance as an excuse to cover up the fact that he doesn't want to live alone, just like he was trying to put off Leonard from going in the finale by coming up with all sorts of excuses. And I don't think it's just about him being driven around, I think he genuinely likes living with Leonard. We also keep forgetting that 4A has the spot. Can you imagine Sheldon parting from his spot? 

 

Anyway, I'm getting the feeling that the topic about Sheldon's development hindering Lenny has kind of turned into a "How can we get rid of Sheldon so Lenny can move in together?" kind of debate. Poor Shelly.

 

Most of the times shows can get renewed in multi year deals and I'm sure that TBBT will get 8 and 9 but I honestly hope that is all they take it to.  I really dont want them to overstay their welcome like HIMYM, Friends, That '70 and Roseanne did.  I want this show to go out with the audience wanting more.  That way a reunion is more possible.

 

Totally agree. It unsettles me to hear that shows as bad at TAHM are going into their 11th season.   I don't want TBBT to keep going past its due date and ruin everything. Just the thought of what they might come up with when they run out of ideas makes me shudder. 

[rubyanjel]

You know, I remember someone from the other board saying something similar but my scenario is that what if the last scenario for the very last episode of the series is all of them moving out, all of them living on different apartments (maybe with their SOs) and then Sheldon and Leonard goes out of the door, saying goodbye to the apartment and then walking down the stares. Like the opposite of the very first scene in the Pilot Episode.

Edited April 20, 2013 by rubyanjel