Guest DroneInTheSun Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 Knowing someone is important to you is one thing. Being happy that someone is important to you in so much as it's going to have a huge impact on your life is an altogether different matter. Sheldon, as a character, has a history of waffling back and forth on things (which I blame on the writers.) You'll have one episode where he seems to accept something and another where it's back up in the air. What we know for sure is that Sheldon doesn't like change. Season Six has been about change. So, it doesn't surprise me that he has been cranky and mean and immature more this season. I am not trying to excuse the things the writers have had him say to Amy just for the sake of a joke, I am simply trying to explain my take on the season. That's all. I'm not sure why you feel the need to be so defensive? I'm not saying you're trying to excuse him, you answered a question about why he had been that way, writers' inconsistencies apart. I'm just trying to say why I don't think your explanation really works. And Sheldon didn't seem very unhappy when he told L/P that he's quite fond of Amy, or when he had that adoring look on his face when he gave her her VDay present. If it was just about not liking change, he'd have been an asshole to her much earlier in the series - after the Flaming Spittoon for example. Two things: You said: "Sheldon's known for a while that Amy's important to him - he asked her to be his girlfriend, for crying out loud." I read this as if you were implying that Sheldon was planning to ask her to be his anyway. I don't know that I can agree with that. Sheldon did not ask Amy to be his girlfriend because she was important to him. He did it because he was over a barrel, and she was going out with someone else. She was important to him. He had already acknowledged this and would not have needed a commitment beyond friendship with her to proclaim this to the world. He in no way wanted the responsibility that came with having a girlfriend as well as the extra obstacles he would have to face with this kind of relationship (especially in regards to physical touching). But, he knew logically that, if he didn't ask her, Amy would had every right to date Stuart or anyone else who might come along. Amy agreeing to date Stuart just proved to Sheldon she wanted to date someone and would date someone if asked. Up until that point, I think he believed she was like him and didn't want a romantic relationship of any kind, which she had told him several times. Therefore, if he wanted to keep her all to himself, he had to make adjustments accordingly. This, to me, is why he bit the bullet and asked her. The relationship agreement was his way of compromising in this regard and allowed him to give her what she wanted while also being able to do so at a level he could be comfortable with. In Sheldon's mind, he and Amy were already going out together. In The Wiggly Finger Catalyst he did not correct Raj about the whole girlfriend thing, and more importantly, in The Flaming Spittoon Acquisition, when Penny talks about the guy she liked and says he started going out with someone else, Sheldon assumes she means he is the guy, clearly inferring he's already going out with someone else - i.e. Amy, obviously. Stuart is what he needs to make it official but there's no doubt in his mind that they're together. You said: "and there are plenty of instances where seeing her upset upset him too (like in The Shiny Trinket Manoeuvre where he didn't get why Amy was mad at him but cared enough that she was mad at him to drink digital alcohol and buy her a freaking tiara! or even in early Season 6, when he realises he's a callous egomaniac and that she's gonna leave him if he doesn't change and he ends up drinking so much he gets drunk and wants to beat up Wil Wheaton)" Sheldon is, first and foremost, a man. He doesn't necessarily get upset simply because Amy is upset. He gets upset because Amy is mad at him and is punishing him accordingly. As he wants the punishment to stop, he has to find a way to make amends (buying the tiara or going to beat up Wheaton). Honestly, I was with Sheldon on the whole Wheaton thing. Amy was getting exactly what she was dishing out. Why should Wheaton have to apologize and why should Sheldon have to be involved at all? She bit off that bite all by herself, she should have to swallow it. As long as Wheaton wasn't being overtly mean to her (like calling her really bad names or threatening her), Sheldon didn't need to get involved. I wouldn't have. I think the only thing Sheldon learned for sure was that, when it came to arguments, he had to side with Amy no matter what or he was going to be punished. This is a lesson most men have to learn at some point in a relationship. However, I think it is ridiculous to think that Sheldon is sensitive enough to be upset simply because Amy is. He never has been, and he never will be. He didn't even want to go into his bedroom to comfort her on the Dungeons and Dragons night. He was pushed in there by obligation and peer pressure from his friends. (Yes, everything he did while in there was of his own free will. But what got him in there to begin with wasn't his idea.) I do, however, adore that he got drunk and made the "callous egomaniac" comment. I loved that he recognized what a gift he has in Amy and how he doesn't always treat her right. I think, most of all, this as well as his Texan upbringing is what propelled him to go threaten Wheaton. Amy was ridiculous in the WW episode, I agree. But the fact remains that seeing her angry at him was enough to make him think she was going to leave him. He may have wanted the punishment to stop, sure, but there's more than that - he was literally afraid he'd failed her and she was going to realise that and go on without him. But if that's ridiculous to interpret that as him being upset and valuing his relationship with Amy, then I'm ridiculous. I probably give him more credit than you do. Does that make me ridiculous? okay then. /shrugs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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