rickfromillinois Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 (edited) Look back and try to find where I have posted the same thing twice. Perhaps it looks so similar because I am responding to the same inane posts. As for me saying that your opinoin doesn't count HERE, please point it out where I said that. If you are referring to me saying that your opinion counts for little as far as the writers are concerned, live with it. It holds true to all of our opinions. Edited August 3, 2013 by rickfromillinois Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 Why do you keep directing comments to me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 (Warning: Stop reading if you're sick of trying to understand Sheldon's character. I can't help it, it's one of my symptoms, curse you mind!) Interesting that the same people who don't want Sheldon to have a proper diagnosis, are happy for him to continually be called 'crazy' and 'wack a doodle'! It's obvious that a character is the result of the interplay of ideas between writers and actor. When Jim Parsons was asked by Variety, about his characters traits, 'certainly sounds like it that Sheldon has Aspergers. I read 'Look Me In The Eye', From reading it, he couldn't display more traits of it. Every Aspergers sufferer is very smart......that's where the two circles collide as far as Sheldon the character, and why he displays those traits'. But regardless of whether Sheldon displays; O.C.D., generalised anxiety disorder, social anxiety disorder or mild Aspergers, my point has always been that Sheldon does not deserve to be criticised, ridiculed, humiliated, or struck. It sends out the wrong message to those who are quick to judge, and lack tolerance of those with mild mental disorders. Why do you think people with mild mental disorders withdraw from public situations, and get increasingly wary of people? See I think that is the reason why they will not "label" Sheldon with any particular illness. Sheldon, as Chuck Lorre said, "is Sheldon". I submit that there is no real way to have a comedy show deal with dignity a mental illness. Just no way. As a person who does suffer from several mental disorders, I feel I am 100% an expert on stating this. What I don't understand is why does it matter? I don't see NAMI condemning the show as exasperating the stigma that the mentally ill suffer and I can tell you first hand accounts of that stigma in action. But I do have to say that I do get tired of people wanting to label any and every quirk that someone has as some type of illness (not directing this at anyone). I feel that this is why stigmas exist in my humble opinion. Sheldon is Sheldon and you know that is alright with me... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajond Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 Change the record. have you got all your posts saved somewhere? Think you might need to get off the whole asperger's thing and the condescencion. I am certain the writers would not create a character with aspergers/autism/any other label you can think,of and then proceed to make fun of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripper Posted August 3, 2013 Posted August 3, 2013 Can we please move past the Aspergers discussion? It's heading nowhere productive. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground between what some people identify as Sheldon's Aspergers qualities, what others identify as just Sheldon's traits, and what the producers have stated on the record. Whether it's debated here or not, there is of course only one reality and this discussion won't alter that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 TBS had a re-run tognight of the Hawking Excitation, perhaps the funniest episode of the whole show.....Sheldon wearing that French Maids outfit to work was hilarious, and then when Hawking told him that his math was wrong on his theory......it doesn't get much better then that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaqo Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 (edited) Can we please move past the Aspergers discussion? It's heading nowhere productive. There doesn't seem to be any middle ground between what some people identify as Sheldon's Aspergers qualities, what others identify as just Sheldon's traits, and what the producers have stated on the record. Whether it's debated here or not, there is of course only one reality and this discussion won't alter that. From what I've been reading, and a course I'm taking to help with my OCD, I think there is a real point to understanding Sheldon's Traits(ie:the undiagnosed don't get the help they need). His future, and the possibility of him being capable of intimate relationships in the future. The twenty second chapter of 'Look Me In The Eye' is titled 'Becoming Normal'. Sheldon's neural connections formed differently, to protect him from what was happening around him in childhood. The author of the book didn't get a proper diagnosis until his forties, but was able to rebuild new neural pathways. Sheldon would obviously need the help of those around him. I don't think the sudden appearance of Amy, a neuroscientist, was accidental. She understands he has mild mental problems, and is willing to help him. If Leonard, with his background in psychology(growing up with a psychologist mother), was to support Sheldon, and get Penny's support, Sheldon will be set free from his conditions, that while having benefited him until now(academically), will limit his future social possibilities. Edited August 6, 2013 by gaqo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 From what I've been reading, and a course I'm taking to help with my OCD, I think there is a real point to understanding Sheldon's Traits(ie:the undiagnosed don't get the help they need). His future, and the possibility of him being capable of intimate relationships in the future. The twenty second chapter of 'Look Me In The Eye' is titled 'Becoming Normal'. Sheldon's neural connections formed differently, to protect him from what was happening around him in childhood. The author of the book didn't get a proper diagnosis until his thirties, but was able to rebuild new neural pathways. Sheldon would obviously need the help of those around him. I don't think the sudden appearance of Amy, a neuroscientist, was accidental. She understands he has mild mental problems, and is willing to help him. If Leonard, with his background in psychology(growing up with a psychologist mother), was to support Sheldon, and get Penny's support, Sheldon will be set free from his conditions, that while having benefited him until now(academically), will limit his future social possibilities. Amy hasn't mentioned that he has an undiognosed mental disorder. Leonard hasn't mentioned that he has an undiognosed mental disorder aside from several declarations of him being crazy. Leonard's Mother hasn't mentioned that he has an undiagnosed mental disorder, and she is a professional in the field. He was tested. When tested they did not say that he has an undiagnosed mental disorder. NO ONE on the show has mentioned the possibility of him having an undiognosed mental disorder. As far as the show is concerned "Look Me in the Eye" is moot. It is irrelevant to the show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaqo Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 click,.......click,......click,.....click,.....click......change the record! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 click,.......click,......click,.....click,.....click......change the record! Yes, I think you should. The inane theory pulled out of someone's buttocks is getting boring. NO ONE on the show or associated with the show HAS EVER said that he has asperdergers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaqo Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 Yes, I think you should. The inane theory pulled out of someone's buttocks is getting boring. NO ONE on the show or associated with the show HAS EVER said that he has asperdergers. click,...click,....click,....click. There's no point responding until you've actually thought of something new to say. I've heard all this repeatedly from you. When I said 'think outside the box', I didn't think you were going to get in the box! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 click,...click,....click,....click. There's no point responding until you've actually thought of something new to say. I've heard all this repeatedly from you. When I said 'think outside the box', I didn't think you were going to get in the box! I am responding to the repeated pet theory that Sheldon has asperbers. Talk about being in a box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted August 4, 2013 Posted August 4, 2013 (Hey, would you look at that! I've finally learned how to quote multiple people, Tensor.)I never doubted you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
supreme1 Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) From what I've been reading, and a course I'm taking to help with my OCD, I think there is a real point to understanding Sheldon's Traits(ie:the undiagnosed don't get the help they need). His future, and the possibility of him being capable of intimate relationships in the future. The twenty second chapter of 'Look Me In The Eye' is titled 'Becoming Normal'. Sheldon's neural connections formed differently, to protect him from what was happening around him in childhood. The author of the book didn't get a proper diagnosis until his thirties, but was able to rebuild new neural pathways. Sheldon would obviously need the help of those around him. I don't think the sudden appearance of Amy, a neuroscientist, was accidental. She understands he has mild mental problems, and is willing to help him. If Leonard, with his background in psychology(growing up with a psychologist mother), was to support Sheldon, and get Penny's support, Sheldon will be set free from his conditions, that while having benefited him until now(academically), will limit his future social possibilities. Well, from the comic con Q&A session, the writers said that Sheldon is just Sheldon and they're not trying to make him appear as if he has a mental disorder. LOL Leonard's mother is just to show why he has inferior complex and emotional upheavals, not to support Sheldon. In one episode Leonard tried to give Sheldon therapy to overcome stage fright and just failed miserably. Amy is a neurobiologist because Mayim Balik is a neuroscientist, like how Sheldon is from Houston, Texas because it's Jim Parsons' hometown. And not like her treatment for his problem with closure has worked anyway. Sheldon just needs time to accommodate new things in his life, that's all, stop trying to diagnose him ) Edited August 5, 2013 by supreme1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaqo Posted August 5, 2013 Posted August 5, 2013 (edited) I do like you gaqo, but I have to agree with this. I just see Sheldon as Sheldon too - I don't think the show would be as light and fun if there was a serious and recognised condition explaining his cute and ever-entertaining antics. I just find myself intrigued by the way he acts, and realise there is always reasons behind people's behavioural traits. I have a very inquisitive mind, and usually can't stop until I've solved or resolved something(not unlike Sheldon, I fear). I did warn people not to read on! Yes, I think you should. The inane theory pulled out of someone's buttocks is getting boring. NO ONE on the show or associated with the show HAS EVER said that he has asperdergers. Will you quit with the gay innuendo already. I should introduce you to ajond! You can follow me around together! Edited August 5, 2013 by gaqo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaqo Posted August 6, 2013 Posted August 6, 2013 Warning: do not read. More quotes from book; 'fascination with trains', 'people tell me how I was arrogant, aloof, or unfriendly', 'display inappropriate facial expressions', 'I always ignored the rules', 'I don't conform', 'Asperger's compels me to be the ultimate expert in whatever field of interest I choose', 'I'm not defective.....we Aspergians are better than normal', 'an essential part of much creative genius'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Warning: do not read. More quotes from book; 'fascination with trains', 'people tell me how I was arrogant, aloof, or unfriendly', 'display inappropriate facial expressions', 'I always ignored the rules', 'I don't conform', 'Asperger's compels me to be the ultimate expert in whatever field of interest I choose', 'I'm not defective.....we Aspergians are better than normal', 'an essential part of much creative genius'. So has this thread been changed to "Aspergers" or is it about you? Neither have anything to do with the topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaqo Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Hey I'm only quoting a book that JP says he read, working on a theory of my own, everyone is free to think, and post whatever you like. I think I know who suggested JP read the book. Room for all ideas and opinions here! Please don't read or discuss any of what I post about this book. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaqo Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 I don't think most people can be bothered, or are sensible enough not to read it. It's just rickfromi who likes to deny everything I say, and think. I never got the regulation denial blinkers that some members like to wear. I'm open minded. If JP had said he'd read 'War and Peace', when asked about the character Sheldon, I'd be wading my way through that. I don't read their replies either. I've come to realise who has something constructive to add. But I appreciate that you distracted everyone with 'eyebrows' last time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 How come Sheldon only gets the one Tom Lehrer song? Where did that come? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickfromillinois Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 I don't think most people can be bothered, or are sensible enough not to read it. It's just rickfromi who likes to deny everything I say, and think. I never got the regulation denial blinkers that some members like to wear. I'm open minded. If JP had said he'd read 'War and Peace', when asked about the character Sheldon, I'd be wading my way through that. I don't read their replies either. I've come to realise who has something constructive to add. But I appreciate that you distracted everyone with 'eyebrows' last time. And if he had mentioned 40 or 50 times something about Shedlon and War and Peace people would be calling for him to get back on subject too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted August 7, 2013 Posted August 7, 2013 Eyebrows are always a good way to distract people. Especially Jim's. I think it's that time again: What's that, Jim? You want me to snog you? Okay... If you insist. I have a thing for his eyebrow wiggle, I would love to see a gif set with all his wiggles Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 Nor do I but there is some excellent people here who can! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaqo Posted August 8, 2013 Posted August 8, 2013 If some one has the DVD's, I'd love to see a compilation of Sheldon's facial expressions! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richardepic Posted August 9, 2013 Posted August 9, 2013 Does anybody see the connection between Forrest Gump and Sheldon or is that just me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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