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To be fair Lenny have been acting like a married couple this season. Dont know where roommates come from. Yeah s8 sure.  But s9 on that fronts Been fine. But yeah I agree that ship sailed years ago. Tptb simply care about ratings currently. The shows simply gone from David to Goliaf. As for Leonard as everyone else. Hes merely a pawn in Sheldons world. 

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Tbbt sometimes looks like the sheldon show.  I dont agree the lenny are nit the center of the tbbt as s couple. Leonard is still the leader of the guys and penny of the girls, despite shammys added presence on the show.

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Leonard has always been the most nearly normal and least immature of the guys, so I guess he's the one we identify with. But I find that when I re-watch episodes I like him less than I did thje first time - I notice shitty behaviour (usually towards Penny, on at least one occasion towards Sheldon - the electric can-opener stunt) that I hadn't realised was so shitty the first time. And now I'm getting really exasperated with his mother issue. He's in his thirties, he's married to the love of his life, he's published a great physics theory, and he's still whining about how his mother didn't show him love when he was a child? As Beverly said to him once, "buck up".

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16 minutes ago, JohnPhD said:

Leonard has always been the most nearly normal and least immature of the guys, so I guess he's the one we identify with.

Leonard's the "most nearly normal and least immature"?

He was so weirded out, by his girlfriend having a British guy as her classmate, that he pretended he wasn't her boyfriend, and told the guy her actual boyfriend was a gang member.

He'd rather spend the weekend playing D&D, than spend it having sex with his girlfriend.

He'd sooner have Penny "Just, just hate me, but stay with me.", than split up with him.

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1 hour ago, JohnPhD said:

Leonard has always been the most nearly normal and least immature of the guys, so I guess he's the one we identify with. But I find that when I re-watch episodes I like him less than I did thje first time - I notice shitty behaviour (usually towards Penny, on at least one occasion towards Sheldon - the electric can-opener stunt) that I hadn't realised was so shitty the first time. And now I'm getting really exasperated with his mother issue. He's in his thirties, he's married to the love of his life, he's published a great physics theory, and he's still whining about how his mother didn't show him love when he was a child? As Beverly said to him once, "buck up".

Since when is there a timeframe in which one has to resolve issues from their childhood? How we spent our childhood shapes us in the most profound way. And in Leonard's case it was plain emotional cruelty. 

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On March 17, 2016 at 8:16 AM, JohnPhD said:

Leonard has always been the most nearly normal and least immature of the guys, so I guess he's the one we identify with. But I find that when I re-watch episodes I like him less than I did thje first time - I notice shitty behaviour (usually towards Penny, on at least one occasion towards Sheldon - the electric can-opener stunt) that I hadn't realised was so shitty the first time. And now I'm getting really exasperated with his mother issue. He's in his thirties, he's married to the love of his life, he's published a great physics theory, and he's still whining about how his mother didn't show him love when he was a child? As Beverly said to him once, "buck up".

In the real world being tortured by his mother for her experimental research on the mind, when he was young and impressionable, would have made him a serial killer.  So when Sheldon pulled that stunt at the North Pole, in the real world, Leonard would have left parts of Sheldon spread across the frozen tundra.  But that is not Leonard in the show, he is very empathetic, that is why he stays with Sheldon and helps him deal with the world, also he is carrying of Penny, he never told her she should have taken a porn job because her acting career was doing so poorly, like Sheldon seriously did.  

BTW, Sheldon should have been fired for keeping them all there at the North Pole after he found out his experiment failed, he wasted grant money and made three brilliant scientists have to treat him like a spoiled child after he didn't get the results he wanted.  Leonard could have been back to Penny in 30 days if he didn't have to stay with spoiled Sheldon for the full 3-4 months.  Running the can opener was just mental self preservation for the guys and Leonard protecting Sheldon because Howard wanted to kill him.

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27 minutes ago, SRAM said:

 

BTW, Sheldon should have been fired for keeping them all there at the North Pole after he found out his experiment failed, he wasted grant money and made three brilliant scientists have to treat him like a spoiled child after he didn't get the results he wanted.  Leonard could have been back to Penny in 30 days if he didn't have to stay with spoiled Sheldon for the full 3-4 months.  Running the can opener was just mental self preservation for the guys and Leonard protecting Sheldon because Howard wanted to kill him.

It's not the way it works, you make an experiment once and if you don't find what you are looking for you go home. It took years to detect gravitational waves, I guess that also to detect monopoles (if they exist) should not be that easy. You repeat the experiment and hope for the best...In general those kind of expeditions have a a schedule and you stay there until it's planned. 

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On March 17, 2016 at 8:43 AM, Stephen Hawking said:

Leonard's the "most nearly normal and least immature"?

He was so weirded out, by his girlfriend having a British guy as her classmate, that he pretended he wasn't her boyfriend, and told the guy her actual boyfriend was a gang member.

He'd rather spend the weekend playing D&D, than spend it having sex with his girlfriend.

He'd sooner have Penny "Just, just hate me, but stay with me.", than split up with him.

You are being very selective in your  response, all the guys dumped their girls to play D&D.  Howard was jealous of the tall scientist at the convention, and Sheldon was jealous of Stuart so much he even ruined Amy's date.  Also all the guys have begged their girls at one time, even Sheldon when he kept at Amy to end her time away from him which resulted in her breaking  up with him.

Bottom line is all the guys have done that crap, so yes Leonard still comes out as the most normal and mature.

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17 hours ago, Stephen Hawking said:

Which makes them all equally immature.

Oh, I will agree with you there.

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3 minutes ago, SRAM said:

Oh, I will agree with you there.

Well, that's all I was saying.

I wasn't saying any of them are more mature, than Leonard.

I was simply saying, he isn't the least immature.

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 I think his biggest immaturity is that he still has a high school like insecurity and still thinks of Penny as the cheerleader/promqueen that could easily find someone better.  Season 6 looked like they were going to rid the character of that but it came back fully in season 7 when he begged Penny not to break up with him after her drunk proposal.

now I do believe Leonard is the most normal of the group and that is one of the reasons Penny gravitated to him in the beginning and why they can talk to each other, better than the other guys in the group.

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