Episodes 6.15 The Spoiler Alert Segmentation (Feb. 7)

[Moonbase]

I loved it too. It was a bit Misery-style a bit less creepy of course, but still creepy enough.

 

Yeah, at the end it had a feeling that he would be trapped in that house forever!! ...which of course he won't, but anyway.

[koops]

The thing is, that after rewatching the episode, I don't think Amy realized what she was doing relationship-wise.

 

She kept repeating "roomate" and how good she was at everything that Leonard did, and even ran to Leonard's room to see if her water bed could fit. So I didn't see it as her "pushing" him relationship wise, because I don't think she realized.

 

And, strangely, Sheldon did. He couldn't refute Amy's logic, because it was right, she is the perfect roomate for him. But I think he realized that she couldn't be just his roomate. Amy being her girlfriend AND living with him would bring the "intimacy level" that they are not ready for yet, and he realized.

 

Sheldon's mistake was to not say this to her and blame it on Penny. But he was the mature one on the situation, while Amy didn't even realize the implications-.

Which I find interesting because it puts them in a more equal ground, as it is usually Sheldon the one who is oblivious, and not Amy. But the feel I got from this episode was the contrary-.

 

I just need to quote this because I was trying to type out pretty much the same points and failed miserably. 

[vasu]

The thing is, that after rewatching the episode, I don't think Amy realized what she was doing relationship-wise.

 

She kept repeating "roomate" and how good she was at everything that Leonard did, and even ran to Leonard's room to see if her water bed could fit. So I didn't see it as her "pushing" him relationship wise, because I don't think she realized.

 

And, strangely, Sheldon did. He couldn't refute Amy's logic, because it was right, she is the perfect roomate for him. But I think he realized that she couldn't be just his roomate. Amy being her girlfriend AND living with him would bring the "intimacy level" that they are not ready for yet, and he realized.

 

Sheldon's mistake was to not say this to her and blame it on Penny. But he was the mature one on the situation, while Amy didn't even realize the implications-.

Which I find interesting because it puts them in a more equal ground, as it is usually Sheldon the one who is oblivious, and not Amy. But the feel I got from this episode was the contrary-.

 

I never felt anywhere in this episode that Amy did not think about their relationship....and I don't think it was hinted anywhere...

 

And it's just not believable after seeing the Amy-sick episode(or the whole season 6) that she would not think of their relationship when talking about moving in with him...cause it seems like.. for her any little step forward in their relationship..is a big deal...which she would eagerly try to latch on to.....and I don't think obliviousness is a thing that one can switch on or off according to the situation.......it just does not make any sense....

Edited February 8, 2013 by vasu

[BazingaFan]

After re-watching the episode, the fight in the beginning didn't seem forced to me.  Funny how it can be different the second time around.

 

Someone on facebook commented that this being the "Spoiler" episode could have a double meaning and could be the writers way of telling us that this episode is a spoiler for things to come on BBT.  I don't know... not sure if they will ever break up Leonard and Sheldon... they are the heart of the show.

 

And seriously, Leonard needs a haircut or something!  What's the deal with that?

[koops]

After re-watching the episode, the fight in the beginning didn't seem forced to me.  Funny how it can be different the second time around.

 

Someone on facebook commented that this being the "Spoiler" episode could have a double meaning and could be the writers way of telling us that this episode is a spoiler for things to come on BBT.  I don't know... not sure if they will ever break up Leonard and Sheldon... they are the heart of the show.

 

And seriously, Leonard needs a haircut or something!  What's the deal with that?

 

I also think they won't split them up but if they do, I think it might happen but way towards the end of the series. I don't think they'd even have a full season of this. But I doubt the writers were trying to imply that much with the title, it seems a bit of a stretch.

 

And agreed with Leonard's hair, lol.

[BazingaFan]

I also wanted to mention how much I liked the mention of an old joke from seasons 2 and 3... the part where sheldon asks for the rice, mustard, etc. for his chinese order to be correct.  I like it when things come back from the old... just waiting for a bazinga, though. lol.

[Moonbase]

Someone on facebook commented that this being the "Spoiler" episode could have a double meaning and could be the writers way of telling us that this episode is a spoiler for things to come on BBT.  I don't know... not sure if they will ever break up Leonard and Sheldon... they are the heart of the show.

 

It did cross my mind. If Sheldon hadn't spoiled Leonard (again) over Walking Dead, I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

[bigbangsheldon]

omg i peed when howard and bernadette where face timing raj 

[Ar Diem]

The thing is, that after rewatching the episode, I don't think Amy realized what she was doing relationship-wise.

 

She kept repeating "roomate" and how good she was at everything that Leonard did, and even ran to Leonard's room to see if her water bed could fit. So I didn't see it as her "pushing" him relationship wise, because I don't think she realized.

 

And, strangely, Sheldon did. He couldn't refute Amy's logic, because it was right, she is the perfect roomate for him. But I think he realized that she couldn't be just his roomate. Amy being her girlfriend AND living with him would bring the "intimacy level" that they are not ready for yet, and he realized.

 

Sheldon's mistake was to not say this to her and blame it on Penny. But he was the mature one on the situation, while Amy didn't even realize the implications-.

Which I find interesting because it puts them in a more equal ground, as it is usually Sheldon the one who is oblivious, and not Amy. But the feel I got from this episode was the contrary-.

 

 

You could also say she was being smart by calling it a roommate situation so it wouldn't seem as threatening to Sheldon.  It was clear when he was in the process of rejecting her she went straight to how she has been a good girlfriend for 2 years.

 

What was her motivation for moving in if not to propel their relationship?  She had to know on some level that passing the cohabitation test removes another obstacle.

[SodidIwin?]

I also think they won't split them up but if they do, I think it might happen but way towards the end of the series. I don't think they'd even have a full season of this. But I doubt the writers were trying to imply that much with the title, it seems a bit of a stretch.

 

And agreed with Leonard's hair, lol.

I don't see how that could realistically work after they have moved all the relationships so far this season? Then all of a sudden they just put on the screeching brakes to a dead crawl for years? That wouldn't go over very well with any of the relationship fans only those that hate they are showing so much relationship movement and not science. I have to think it is more of a spoiler for things to come.

 

I loved how Sheldon patted Leonard's head and then wiped his hand in his pants and said "Lot of product!". LOl!  

Edited February 8, 2013 by SodidIwin?

[koops]

I don't see how that could realistically work after they have moved all the relationships so far this season? Then all of a sudden they just put on the screeching brakes to a dead crawl for years? That wouldn't go over very well with any of the relationship fans only those that hate they are showing so much relationship movement and not science. I have to think it is more of a spoiler for things to come.

 

I loved how Sheldon patted Leonard's head and then wiped his hand in his pants and said "Lot of product!". LOl!

 

I don't know, I'm just guessing because L&S living together is one of the staples of the show, if not the staple. I find it hard to believe that they would change that any time soon. And I'm sure they can come up with lots of reasons to delay that step if they need to. I can't say much more of what I think without spoiling though (which would be ironic in this thread, lol). I am a Shamy fan but I also wouldn't be angry at all at them not moving in together until the end of the series. It's not that important to me so see them shack-up. I'm not against the idea of what happened in this episode either though, and I'm open minded to see what they could come up with to make it good if they were to do it for real. But if I could choose, I'd rather they didn't go there for a while yet. I don't think either couple is ready yet, especially Shamy. And I like the two buddies living together.

[BazingaFan]

I don't know, I'm just guessing because L&S living together is one of the staples of the show, if not the staple. I find it hard to believe that they would change that any time soon. And I'm sure they can come up with lots of reasons to delay that step if they need to. I can't say much more of what I think without spoiling though (which would be ironic in this thread, lol). I am a Shamy fan but I also wouldn't be angry at all at them not moving in together until the end of the series. It's not that important to me so see them shack-up. I'm not against the idea of what happened in this episode either though, and I'm open minded to see what they could come up with to make it good if they were to do it for real. But if I could choose, I'd rather they didn't go there for a while yet. I don't think either couple is ready yet, especially Shamy. And I like the two buddies living together.

 

I agree... sheldon and leonard have a special relationship too and I really liked the end of the episode when they reconciled.  They are Bert and Ernie, after all.

Edited February 8, 2013 by BazingaFan

[Kaizen]

I thought this episode had a mixture of high and low moments, but was very good overall. 

 

As other as mentioned, the opening scene /argument between Leonard and Sheldon didn’t feel right.  It seemed very contrived and forced.  Leonard came across as vicious; the crazy bastard comment was over the top  (and what’s up with his hair). Sheldon being an arse seemed more intentional or less innocent than normal.   I also thought the closing scene was a bit weak.

 

Rajs’ face and cries for help on the phone were hilarious.   Seeing glimpses of Mrs. Wolowitz really caught me off guard.  The way they had her just walk past the doorway, in the background was like some sort of horror movie. 

H&B acrobat joke was ok, but for the most part I find them boring.  To me, H&B as a couple aren’t as funny as H&B are individually or with the other cast members.

Admittedly, I wasn’t sure how this episode would play out and was worried the writers were going to use Pennys’ commitment issues to trigger another L&P breakup.  I’m so glad they didn’t and instead did a fantastic job of showing how Penny has really matured.  

Penny was hitting homers all night long.  Not having a panic attack when Leonard said he wanted to move in, telling herself  “Ok, don’t freak out you can make this work”, and later telling Leonard that he decided to move in “without asking if she was ready” were huge steps.  Plus the “I don’t want to break his heart, I love him…” was a major WOW.  Really solidifies The 43 Peculiarity’ ILY.    This is the most mature version of Penny to date.

 

Also thought the hallway scene with Sheldon was another great P & S one on one moment. And in the doorway with Leonard and Sheldon, the “it’s like the happiness won’t leave the apartment” line is so Penny. Aside for his hair, Leonard did stand out much.

The Shamy scenes were very well done.  Sheldons’ Ummms, not being able to refute Amys’ logic, and Amys’ “what the hell, Sheldon”  (mad and funny at the same time) along with the “it’s possible” from the previous episode may be hints of a Shamy advance. 

 

[Ar Diem]

I also think they won't split them up but if they do, I think it might happen but way towards the end of the series. I don't think they'd even have a full season of this. But I doubt the writers were trying to imply that much with the title, it seems a bit of a stretch.

 

And agreed with Leonard's hair, lol.

 

They won't break them up as friends but I do think their living arrangements will have to change.  Penny living with S/L doesn't make sense and I definitely do not think they can drag Lenny out for several more years at the status quo.

[SodidIwin?]

The thing is, that after rewatching the episode, I don't think Amy realized what she was doing relationship-wise.

 

She kept repeating "roomate" and how good she was at everything that Leonard did, and even ran to Leonard's room to see if her water bed could fit. So I didn't see it as her "pushing" him relationship wise, because I don't think she realized.

 

And, strangely, Sheldon did. He couldn't refute Amy's logic, because it was right, she is the perfect roomate for him. But I think he realized that she couldn't be just his roomate. Amy being her girlfriend AND living with him would bring the "intimacy level" that they are not ready for yet, and he realized.

 

Sheldon's mistake was to not say this to her and blame it on Penny. But he was the mature one on the situation, while Amy didn't even realize the implications-.

Which I find interesting because it puts them in a more equal ground, as it is usually Sheldon the one who is oblivious, and not Amy. But the feel I got from this episode was the contrary-.

Everything surrounding her becoming Sheldon's roommate, was in her mind, pushing their relationship further along. Her little tirade beginning with "What the hell Sheldon!" just put an exclamation point on it. IMO she has been reviewing in her mind her 4 year plan and as far as she is concerned Sheldon just isn't moving along as quickly as she had envisioned he would. Amy showed from that point forward during this episode just how frustrated she is becoming with Sheldon. The question is, was this just a one episode storyline for the writers or will they begin to show her frustration more and more perhaps as a season final?

Edited February 8, 2013 by SodidIwin?

[Moonbase]

The more I think about it the more I think this episode is foreshadowing the couples moving in together. I mean, Leonard, 'king of the nerds' had never heard any of the hype over Dumbledore dying, not in magazines, not at the comic book store or from Raj who is a big fan. The film came out 4 years ago.

 

Burt and Ernie the spitting image of Sheldon and Leonard? I can see it.

 

[annieogly]

Very good episode. I was literally roaring with laughter over Raj-Mrs. Wolowitz, that was brilliant, loved him on the phone & Howard saying he'll be there until his Bar Mitzvah...B/H forget them, why doesn't she leave him for some cute salesman or Glen so we can have our vulgar Howard  back? Funny I was just thinking how much I missed Mrs. Wolowitz....

  The fight, contrived, though kudos to the Harry Potter mentions (I'm a big fan) & Sheldon hates spoilers for himself, doesn't give a hoot about others. Amy going in for the kill, moving in, was so funny & her expression - as if she'd won the lottery, delightful. All without being a creepy sex fiend like last season. Mayim's a wonderful comedienne. Though the writers had her demean science fiction movies, models, etc all the things Sheldon loves, then list all the things she's had to do to please Sheldon. She deserves better - a boyfriend who'd please her! I hope the writers give her an admirer.

 Penny, was back, I just loved her reaction to Leonard & her interplay with Sheldon- two trapped terrified people, absolute comedic gold, I've missed them a lot.

ps. I agree Leonard's hair was ghastly & Sheldon's starting to look a bit old.

[phantagrae]

Very good episode. I was literally roaring with laughter over Raj-Mrs. Wolowitz, that was brilliant, loved him on the phone & Howard saying he'll be there until his Bar Mitzvah...B/H forget them, why doesn't she leave him for some cute salesman or Glen so we can have our vulgar Howard  back? Funny I was just thinking how much I missed Mrs. Wolowitz....

  The fight, contrived, though kudos to the Harry Potter mentions (I'm a big fan) & Sheldon hates spoilers for himself, doesn't give a hoot about others. Amy going in for the kill, moving in, was so funny & her expression - as if she'd won the lottery, delightful. All without being a creepy sex fiend like last season. Mayim's a wonderful comedienne. Though the writers had her demean science fiction movies, models, etc all the things Sheldon loves, then list all the things she's had to do to please Sheldon. She deserves better - a boyfriend who'd please her! I hope the writers give her an admirer.

 Penny, was back, I just loved her reaction to Leonard & her interplay with Sheldon- two trapped terrified people, absolute comedic gold, I've missed them a lot.

ps. I agree Leonard's hair was ghastly & Sheldon's starting to look a bit old.

 

WTH?

[rachelshamyfan]

Look old!? How do you come to that!?

Edited February 8, 2013 by rachygd

[SodidIwin?]

The more I think about it the more I think this episode is foreshadowing the couples moving in together. I mean, Leonard, 'king of the nerds' had never heard any of the hype over Dumbledore dying, not in magazines, not at the comic book store or from Raj who is a big fan. The film came out 4 years ago.

 

Burt and Ernie the spitting image of Sheldon and Leonard? I can see it.

 

 

AMAZING! The spiting image of Sheldon & Leonard! Lol! Although Bert is wearing Howard's dickie! Lol!

[Moonbase]

AMAZING! The spiting image of Sheldon & Leonard! Lol! Although Bert is wearing Howard's dickie! Lol!

 

Oh yeah, and Sheldon doesn't have a monobrow... yet. Maybe that's foreshadowing too.

[koops]

The more I think about it the more I think this episode is foreshadowing the couples moving in together. I mean, Leonard, 'king of the nerds' had never heard any of the hype over Dumbledore dying, not in magazines, not at the comic book store or from Raj who is a big fan. The film came out 4 years ago.

 

Burt and Ernie the spitting image of Sheldon and Leonard? I can see it.

 

 

*dies*

 

LOL!

 

I loved when Penny said "You even teach me about words and numbers!" 

[Ar Diem]

Everything surrounding her becoming Sheldon's roommate, was in her mind, pushing their relationship further along. Her little tirade beginning with "What the hell Sheldon!" just put an exclamation point on it. IMO she has been reviewing in her mind her 4 year plan and as far as she is concerned Sheldon just isn't moving along as quickly as she had envisioned he would. Amy showed from that point forward during this episode just how frustrated she is becoming with Sheldon. The question is, was this just a one episode storyline for the writers or will they begin to show her frustration more and more perhaps as a season final?

 

 

If they continue to take it really slow emphasizing her impatience either makes her look bad because she should have known what she was getting into or it makes her a sympathetic character which makes Sheldon look bad.  I think by leaving it subtle in this episode with the one line of frustration made the relationship more believable without it coming across as her brow beating him or making it seem like an ultimatum is coming soon.

 

They have made it pretty clear that Sheldon is in control of the pace of Shamy, and Penny is in charge of Lenny. 

Edited February 8, 2013 by Ar Diem

[bigbangsheldon]

it actually does resemble them ha ha ! 

[Ibid]

I enjoyed the episode. I wasn't offended by the "bastard" comment. Penny has called Leonard a "rat bastard" before. I think the argument parallelled the flashback argument in the episode when Leonard was telling Penny how he came to be Sheldon's roommate. Loved that Amy let loose on Sheldon. Poor Raj...think he'll develop Stockholm Syndrome?