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Does anyone know the real story of the guy Tommy Boatwright represents?  I think I read somewhere that he eventually killed himself out in NM or AZ...

 

But of course, I think Larry Kramer really likes Jim and Mark and may or may not put them together romantically in the sequel.  But it sounds like he could be writing a deeper part for Jim to work with, if everything works out.

 

And on a totally different note, has anyone seen the Elf musical onstage?  I was wondering what Buddy's songs were like in general, now that we got a taste of that one song in the promo (that is stuck in my head...)  I was wondering if he will be singing that "Baby, It's Cold Outside" duet in this version or if that's not included or what.

I imagine there will be some kind of romantic singing for Buddy and Jovie at some point. :)

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Does anyone know the real story of the guy Tommy Boatwright represents?  I think I read somewhere that he eventually killed himself out in NM or AZ...

 

But of course, I think Larry Kramer really likes Jim and Mark and may or may not put them together romantically in the sequel.  But it sounds like he could be writing a deeper part for Jim to work with, if everything works out.

 

And on a totally different note, has anyone seen the Elf musical onstage?  I was wondering what Buddy's songs were like in general, now that we got a taste of that one song in the promo (that is stuck in my head...)  I was wondering if he will be singing that "Baby, It's Cold Outside" duet in this version or if that's not included or what.

I imagine there will be some kind of romantic singing for Buddy and Jovie at some point. :)

 

 

Tommy was based on Rodger McFarland, who was executive director of GMHC and a founding member of ACT UP and Broadway Cares.  He committed suicide in New Mexico in 2009.

 

The NYT May 2009:  http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/nyregion/19mcfarlane.html?_r=0

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I know a little bit about Rodger McFarlane, the real-life Tommy Boatwright. I was actually fascinated with this story and with Larry Kramer before Jim ever became associated with it.

 

Most of what is depicted in TNH is true. He walked into a GMHC meeting one day wanting to help, and he came up with the idea for a hotline for people to calling seeking information and help. He was a huge activist and not only became executive director of GMHC but started lots of other organizations for AIDS.

 

He was also extremely close with Larry, and stuck by him in all the controversy he caused. They were really good friends, and Rodger was a huge supporter of all his endeavors with AIDS and was even co-author on many of Larry's pieces. It is also said that they were lovers.

 

He was also very athletic, and he ended up breaking his back. He didn't want anyone to have the burden of caring for him (even though he had cared for so many people when they were in poor health), and he didn't want to live with the pain, so he killed himself.

 

He sounds like a really complex and deep character, and good reason for Kramer to write a sequel that details his life more. It's a really exciting opportunity for Jim.

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Does anyone know the real story of the guy Tommy Boatwright represents?  I think I read somewhere that he eventually killed himself out in NM or AZ...

 

But of course, I think Larry Kramer really likes Jim and Mark and may or may not put them together romantically in the sequel.  But it sounds like he could be writing a deeper part for Jim to work with, if everything works out.

 

And on a totally different note, has anyone seen the Elf musical onstage?  I was wondering what Buddy's songs were like in general, now that we got a taste of that one song in the promo (that is stuck in my head...)  I was wondering if he will be singing that "Baby, It's Cold Outside" duet in this version or if that's not included or what.

I imagine there will be some kind of romantic singing for Buddy and Jovie at some point. :)

His name was Roger McFarlane. He was the first paid executive director of the Gay Men's Health crisis. He also lived with and assisted his brother before his death due to AIDS in 2002. He committed suicide in 2009 in Truth or Consequences, NM claiming in his note that he could no longer live with his heart and back issues. 

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/19/nyregion/19mcfarlane.html

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And on a totally different note, has anyone seen the Elf musical onstage?  I was wondering what Buddy's songs were like in general, now that we got a taste of that one song in the promo (that is stuck in my head...)  I was wondering if he will be singing that "Baby, It's Cold Outside" duet in this version or if that's not included or what.

I imagine there will be some kind of romantic singing for Buddy and Jovie at some point. :)

 

No it doesn't.  Sucks.  I would've LOVED to hear him sing that song.  I think Jovie has a romantic song, but not with Buddy.

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Thanks, guys, now I'm recalling the Rodger McFarlane articles I read.  I guess I'm wondering if Larry will have him become romantically involved with Ned Weeks, since whether or not McFarland and Kramer were lovers, he can use some poetic license and take it in that direction if it works with whatever else he's writing.  I guess it might depend on how much Kramer focuses on the work each character was doing as activists and how much he focuses on aspects of their personal lives.

 

And speaking of TorC (as the locals call it), my mom taught school down there for a year before my parents got married.  We would drive through it all the time going down to my grandmother's house, back in the day.

 

I didn't realize it was as recent as 2009 that McFarlane killed himself.  He was the age that I am now.

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No it doesn't.  Sucks.  I would've LOVED to hear him sing that song.  I think Jovie has a romantic song, but not with Buddy.

 

Well, that's kind of a drag.  Have you seen the promo--was that "sparkly jingley" song in the stage musical?

I'm wondering what kinds of adaptations they made--not that I've seen the stage musical...

 

ETA: I didn't realize that Kate Micucci is in this.  She plays Jovie!

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After seeing tonight's episode, I have come to a very firm decision: Jim has the look, the voice and the acting skills of a major movie star. And if he does not end up one I will eat this keyboard.

I really believe that as well.  In fact, he reminds me so much of a modern day Jimmy Stewart.  I'm not sure why; possibly because they both played in versions of Harvey or just because they are both actors of the highest caliber, and of course, they are both adorable, even though Jimmy, sadly, is no longer with us.

 

P.S.  And it just occurred to me, that they are both Jims!  I can't believe that didn't occur to me sooner!   :icon_surprised:  At any rate, I foresee a long, long career for our Jim of today, just the way Jimmy Stewart had a long career, as well.  :)

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No, he was not at the Diamond Ball...or at least if he was, he managed to dodge cameras and Rihanna pretty much posed with all her guests so I am guessing not. I think she definitely would have made sure to pose with him in a photo.

 

Brad Pitt and Jimmy Kimmel did some sort of presentations at the event, but not sure what.

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Well, that's kind of a drag.  Have you seen the promo--was that "sparkly jingley" song in the stage musical?

I'm wondering what kinds of adaptations they made--not that I've seen the stage musical...

 

ETA: I didn't realize that Kate Micucci is in this.  She plays Jovie!

 

Yes, it is.  If you go on iTunes and search for Elf - The Musical it's there.  Its suppose to be a mix between the movie and the musical.  I'm guessing the musical part is just that...the music.  I don't care, it's Jim singing.  :p

 

ETA: The song is called "Sparklejollytwinklejingley".

 

http://www.allmusic.com/album/elf-the-broadway-musical-mw0002227885

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Yes, it is.  If you go on iTunes and search for Elf - The Musical it's there.  Its suppose to be a mix between the movie and the musical.  I'm guessing the musical part is just that...the music.  I don't care, it's Jim singing.  :p

 

ETA: The song is called "Sparklejollytwinklejingley".

 

http://www.allmusic.com/album/elf-the-broadway-musical-mw0002227885

 

As Jim/Buddy says, "Close enough" :)

 

I was reading about it on Wikipedia and the interesting thing is that the Sparklejollytwinklejingley song in the play is sung by Buddy and the people at the department store, apparently, not by the family at home, as in the promo clip, so I'm not going to worry about the other songs.  It looks like they're changing up some of the action as well--like Buddy seeing the Fake Santa at a coffee shop and fighting with him there, rather than in the department store (as in the movie).

 

So, I have decided to forego my initial curiousity about comparing the stage musical and have decided I'm just going to "embrace the chaos" like Sheldon in Werewolf Transformation.  I may even wear my Tuesday pajamas tonight. :p

And take up the bongos.  If I had any bongos.  Maybe I'll use my kittie's bottom... :p

 

I think I'm loopy from trying to do my Healthcare update and having that stupid website mess up on me...

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