Carlilla Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Oh sorry, I should have quoted the post before yours. I didn't mean you were overly defensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mary-anne12 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I thought it was a weird interview Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldonswife Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I just wanna see Jim dance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) I think the term "interview" was kind of loosely applied to this article. Yeah, he asked Lee Pace some questions about his past and future projects, but and I think he must have had a few specific things he wanted/needed to ask for the "interview", but it struck me more as a looser conversation between friends--part news about Pace's upcoming stuff, part friendly conversation that goes where it goes as they reminisced, etc.--than the kind of tighter interview a true journalist would conduct. I think that was the point of having Jim do it rather than a staff journalist--to get that friendly stream-of-consciousness type of conversation.  All I was saying earlier is that I don't think that the comments about Jim and Pace's little mornings in any way contradicted what Jim said before about sharing coffee with Todd in the mornings.  And it could well be that the interview was transcribed from a phone interview or something like that, where they recorded their conversation and some lackey at the magazine typed it up, hence the typo on Todd's last name.  I'm sure Jim wasn't typing it up. And if it's an online-only article, typos happen there all the time, with the writers going back later to correct mistakes. I guess online articles aren't edited as carefully as print articles.  As for being a morning person, my nephew Eli is the most morning of morning people in our family. As a matter of fact, I don't think anybody else in the family is truly a morning person, though my mom comes close, I guess.  I like to wake up slowly and to me, the best thing in life is lying in bed in the morning, all warm and comfy (especially with a cat or two on the bed) and not having to get up to go anywhere. I don't drink coffee or anything in the morning to wake up, but I'd rather stay in bed. I'm a night owl.  But when I'm visiting my sister, I sleep on their living room couch and when Eli was younger, he'd come in and sit on the other couch and kind of wait for me to wake up. Or he'd turn on the TV really low and sit there and watch. If I happened to open my eyes, he'd immediately say, "Hi, Aunt Beth!" and I'd have to tell him, "It's not really morning and I'm not really awake" so that I could sleep a little more. Edited December 18, 2014 by phantagrae Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamyyy^-^ Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I acknowledge to be very protective about Todd.. not only because I like him and to me seems a beautiful person but because the fans of Mayim and Jim often try to discredit Todd and its relationship with Jim in a subtle way. In general not here and not now. Obviously everybody can think what they like about that interview, simply I don't think that Jim would have mentioned Todd if he didn't want to do it in a positive or joky way.. nothing more I just wanna see Jim dance... Â me too! ahahah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MsTeller Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 For what it's worth, here is my interpretation of it: "We would talk (paraphrasing) and Todd would come up" actually seemed to mean that Todd would come up as the subject they were talking about not that he would walk into the room during the conversation. That was just the first meaning I got from it. Â I would also not describe Jim's thoughts or words as disorganized or as manic. More or less, it sounded like him as he normally speaks. The printed interview read as though someone simply transcribed the words onto paper or computer screen without adding the context you normally would in a printed article. Spoken conversations do not always translate well in print. (Plus the transcriber could not spell or punctuate well in general. They did not just misspell Todd's name. They also misspelled The Monkees.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_90's_generation Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) It all comes to how you feel towards a certain person, in a way... I came to like Todd, I think he must be a very interesting person, to be able to stand and support your partner when it goes from working here and there, to see your partner's face plastered on t-shirts, ppl wanting to know all about him (and you)... it just... is easy to lose your mind and temper to all that. For me, it's a pity we can't get to know Todd a little bit more, say, through IG or something else, just a little insight to his... things and ways... dunno. Â I agree with what shamyyy said. Not here, not now... but yeah, I get this vibe sometimes... it's ok. Freedom of speech. Â The interview was very informal, I like that. But sometimes it seemed Jim talked more than Lee lol but like phanta said, i understand that was a bit the intention of the whole interview with two famous ppl. Edited December 18, 2014 by Andy_90's_generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_90's_generation Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 On a much cheerful note: Jim's on The late late show today!!!!!!!! It's always such a treat to hear him so relaxed talking with Craig, and since the show ends this week i guess there's something special? maybe? I want Jim to take off his socks again (along with his coat and tie, and maybe, his shirt) Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 You know I like Todd as well, he fits what Jim wants in a relationship. I just pointed out it looked a bit dissy that's all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankie Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Is Jim on Craig's show tonight or tomorrow night? Jiab, my DVR says it's on tonight (technically Friday because it's on at 12:37 AM) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denajeanx Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yeah, I don't think anyone is trying to put Todd down, especially since he wasn't even involved in the interview. It was just weird the way certain quotes came off and the way the article was written, in general. Given the context before and after, I don't think Lee meant he came up in conversation. But again, it is all up to interpretation, as it is in text. And as I said initially, there are those who are overly defensive when they see Todd's name brought up and get their pitchforks out. Â I still think Jim was all over the place and not very organized for an "interview", the whole thing was just bizarre to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 On a much cheerful note: Jim's on The late late show today!!!!!!!! It's always such a treat to hear him so relaxed talking with Craig, and since the show ends this week i guess there's something special? maybe? I want Jim to take off his socks again (along with his coat and tie, and maybe, his shirt)    I saw Betty White on Craig last night. It was a little weird, but funny, as always. They talked about a baby hippo born recently at the zoo...  But her show, Hot in Cleveland is ending this season, so maybe she'll be available to play Meemaw sometime soon...  I wonder if Jim will get a little emotional tonight, since Craig was his first talk show and he used to go on there and help Craig do the email and tweets segment now and then. I mean, I know they'll keep it light and funny, but I wonder what they're going to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I only saw Betty white in lake placid, not sure she fits the part of meenaw but jmo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I a laughing at this whole conversation. Everyone acts like they know Jim and they know Todd. Bottom line is we know nothing about their relationship and whether it is good or bad. We know Jim stays with Todd and they have a comfort between them. That is about all we know. Pictures can deceive as well as can articles because the person writing them interprets what they want during an interview and often paints a picture they want to paint. When on the red carpet or in public, Jim is very much driven by his publicist on what to do and how to present himself.  Yes, even told to hold Todd's hand for photos at times...he is told by his publicist to do that. Does that mean he doesn't ever want to hold Todd's hand? No, but it doesn't mean he always wants to either.  We have seen articles where Jim looks good and some where they kind of paint him as silly.  But does that mean he is a silly person? Not necessarily.  Is he always a good person, probably not because that is not really being a human.   We all have are good days and bad days.  Jim included. He is not perfection, even if we all think highly of him.  I respect his work and his work ethic. I respect that he is respectful of others.  Todd I know nothing about other than he is always there, and Jim seems to favor him.  I don't know if he is a nice person or not.  None of us have met him, talked with him at length to really get a good understanding of who he is as a person.  We only know Jim likes him and stays with him and therefore are trusting he is good based on Jim's opinion.  But Jim also likes some pretty quirky people and some that carry a lot of controversy around them and may not appear as "nice" publicly, but that does not mean that they are "bad" either.  So that doesn't tell us anything either.  I am not dissing anyone here but I find it intriguing that fans always feel they know an actor or their significant other based on publicity and pictures.  Unless you are a personal friend of them, you don't know them, yet everyone here acts like they know these two men so well and that they are perfection.  They aren't. They are human beings that get up, shower, brush their teeth dress and then work hard (or at least Jim does) and beyond that we don't know much else about them and what they are really like.  Both men laugh, cry and have good days and bad ones.  I am sure both can be sweet and adorable and then bears and frustrating.   But it is funny to see people get upset when someone mentions that wording is odd in an article and points out that it could be construed as a "diss" even though they were not even indicating that it was a definite diss.  They were more making a comment on the person writing the summary of the interview than they were commenting on the relationship, yet everyone got in a tizzy thinking they know that Jim and Todd are perfect and how dare anyone say Jim dissed Todd. I suspect there are times Jim has dissed him both privately and in public.  Does that mean he dislikes Todd or that there is trouble? Not necessarily. It happens. He is a human and sometimes opens mouth before thinking like all of us have that ability to do.  But insinuating someone is creating drama over poor wording is hilarious.  It just is so amusing to watch everyone get so sensitive when in reality none of us know either of these men.  I just have to laugh at it because it is so dang funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddsunny473 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 When I´ve read this interview I first thought that it was faked. For me it seemed too intimate, I was feeling kind of a stalker,lol. Is there a possibility that this interview wasn´t real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_90's_generation Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Star, with all due respect, this feels like preaching. Of course we know nothing of their lives. None of us knows. And of course they are not 'perfect', that goes without saying. If we are giving opinions, why can't we give opinions on what we think, we believe, we guess. No one said we have a friend of a friend of a friend who knows Todd, or Jim and we know for a fact something. And I, personally, don't think anybody was upset. Words written deliver half the message without the intonation and something can be misunderstood. Like what I'm writing now, for example, may look like i'm upset, when i'm just pointing something i didn't particularly like, but with respect. I understand what you're saying, and understand the whole point of it. And I agree. But I feel uncomfortable with your wording. That is all. Edited December 18, 2014 by Andy_90's_generation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
denajeanx Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I'm just glad I wasn't the only one that found the whole thing weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 I a laughing at this whole conversation. Everyone acts like they know Jim and they know Todd. Bottom line is we know nothing about their relationship and whether it is good or bad. We know Jim stays with Todd and they have a comfort between them. That is about all we know. Pictures can deceive as well as can articles because the person writing them interprets what they want during an interview and often paints a picture they want to paint. When on the red carpet or in public, Jim is very much driven by his publicist on what to do and how to present himself.  Yes, even told to hold Todd's hand for photos at times...he is told by his publicist to do that. Does that mean he doesn't ever want to hold Todd's hand? No, but it doesn't mean he always wants to either.  We have seen articles where Jim looks good and some where they kind of paint him as silly.  But does that mean he is a silly person? Not necessarily.  Is he always a good person, probably not because that is not really being a human.   We all have are good days and bad days.  Jim included. He is not perfection, even if we all think highly of him.  I respect his work and his work ethic. I respect that he is respectful of others.  Todd I know nothing about other than he is always there, and Jim seems to favor him.  I don't know if he is a nice person or not.  None of us have met him, talked with him at length to really get a good understanding of who he is as a person.  We only know Jim likes him and stays with him and therefore are trusting he is good based on Jim's opinion.  But Jim also likes some pretty quirky people and some that carry a lot of controversy around them and may not appear as "nice" publicly, but that does not mean that they are "bad" either.  So that doesn't tell us anything either.  I am not dissing anyone here but I find it intriguing that fans always feel they know an actor or their significant other based on publicity and pictures.  Unless you are a personal friend of them, you don't know them, yet everyone here acts like they know these two men so well and that they are perfection.  They aren't. They are human beings that get up, shower, brush their teeth dress and then work hard (or at least Jim does) and beyond that we don't know much else about them and what they are really like.  Both men laugh, cry and have good days and bad ones.  I am sure both can be sweet and adorable and then bears and frustrating.   But it is funny to see people get upset when someone mentions that wording is odd in an article and points out that it could be construed as a "diss" even though they were not even indicating that it was a definite diss.  They were more making a comment on the person writing the summary of the interview than they were commenting on the relationship, yet everyone got in a tizzy thinking they know that Jim and Todd are perfect and how dare anyone say Jim dissed Todd. I suspect there are times Jim has dissed him both privately and in public.  Does that mean he dislikes Todd or that there is trouble? Not necessarily. It happens. He is a human and sometimes opens mouth before thinking like all of us have that ability to do.  But insinuating someone is creating drama over poor wording is hilarious.  It just is so amusing to watch everyone get so sensitive when in reality none of us know either of these men.  I just have to laugh at it because it is so dang funny.  Thanks for sharing your amusement at our conversation.  I don't think anyone was trying to imply that Jim is perfect or that Todd is perfect or anything else. You like to use the word "seem" a lot--Jim "seems" to "favor" Todd--when I think Jim has made some public statements about the nature of their relationship. I think it's fair to believe that Jim loves Todd and Todd loves Jim. I think that much was made plain at the GLSEN ceremony.  Yeah, they're not going to air whatever dirty laundry they may have--everyone gripes to or about their SO at some point in life--but whatever occasional fusses they may have with each other have obviously not been significant enough to come between them, since they've been together so long.  Whether or not he chooses to hold Todd's hand or put his arm around him can be something his publicist suggests, or it could actually be something Jim WANTS to do. Isn't it possible that Jim would actually want to hold hands with Todd? In earlier years Jim was very circumspect and rarely mentioned Todd, but it seems that ever since he was in the Normal Heart movie he's been more and more open about Todd and their relationship.  No, he's still not talking about personal details, but I think that's just his private nature. He has made it clear that his relationship with Todd is about love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pantherpat Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) I a laughing at this whole conversation. Everyone acts like they know Jim and they know Todd. Bottom line is we know nothing about their relationship and whether it is good or bad. We know Jim stays with Todd and they have a comfort between them. That is about all we know. Pictures can deceive as well as can articles because the person writing them interprets what they want during an interview and often paints a picture they want to paint. When on the red carpet or in public, Jim is very much driven by his publicist on what to do and how to present himself.  Yes, even told to hold Todd's hand for photos at times...he is told by his publicist to do that. Does that mean he doesn't ever want to hold Todd's hand? No, but it doesn't mean he always wants to either.  We have seen articles where Jim looks good and some where they kind of paint him as silly.  But does that mean he is a silly person? Not necessarily.  Is he always a good person, probably not because that is not really being a human.   We all have are good days and bad days.  Jim included. He is not perfection, even if we all think highly of him.  I respect his work and his work ethic. I respect that he is respectful of others.  Todd I know nothing about other than he is always there, and Jim seems to favor him.  I don't know if he is a nice person or not.  None of us have met him, talked with him at length to really get a good understanding of who he is as a person.  We only know Jim likes him and stays with him and therefore are trusting he is good based on Jim's opinion.  But Jim also likes some pretty quirky people and some that carry a lot of controversy around them and may not appear as "nice" publicly, but that does not mean that they are "bad" either.  So that doesn't tell us anything either.  I am not dissing anyone here but I find it intriguing that fans always feel they know an actor or their significant other based on publicity and pictures.  Unless you are a personal friend of them, you don't know them, yet everyone here acts like they know these two men so well and that they are perfection.  They aren't. They are human beings that get up, shower, brush their teeth dress and then work hard (or at least Jim does) and beyond that we don't know much else about them and what they are really like.  Both men laugh, cry and have good days and bad ones.  I am sure both can be sweet and adorable and then bears and frustrating.   But it is funny to see people get upset when someone mentions that wording is odd in an article and points out that it could be construed as a "diss" even though they were not even indicating that it was a definite diss.  They were more making a comment on the person writing the summary of the interview than they were commenting on the relationship, yet everyone got in a tizzy thinking they know that Jim and Todd are perfect and how dare anyone say Jim dissed Todd. I suspect there are times Jim has dissed him both privately and in public.  Does that mean he dislikes Todd or that there is trouble? Not necessarily. It happens. He is a human and sometimes opens mouth before thinking like all of us have that ability to do.  But insinuating someone is creating drama over poor wording is hilarious.  It just is so amusing to watch everyone get so sensitive when in reality none of us know either of these men.  I just have to laugh at it because it is so dang funny. Wow - a bit heavy handed there!  You  I a laughing at this whole conversation. Everyone acts like they know Jim and they know Todd. Bottom line is we know nothing about their relationship and whether it is good or bad. We know Jim stays with Todd and they have a comfort between them. That is about all we know. Pictures can deceive as well as can articles because the person writing them interprets what they want during an interview and often paints a picture they want to paint. When on the red carpet or in public, Jim is very much driven by his publicist on what to do and how to present himself.  Yes, even told to hold Todd's hand for photos at times...he is told by his publicist to do that. Does that mean he doesn't ever want to hold Todd's hand? No, but it doesn't mean he always wants to either.  We have seen articles where Jim looks good and some where they kind of paint him as silly.  But does that mean he is a silly person? Not necessarily.  Is he always a good person, probably not because that is not really being a human.   We all have are good days and bad days.  Jim included. He is not perfection, even if we all think highly of him.  I respect his work and his work ethic. I respect that he is respectful of others.  Todd I know nothing about other than he is always there, and Jim seems to favor him.  I don't know if he is a nice person or not.  None of us have met him, talked with him at length to really get a good understanding of who he is as a person.  We only know Jim likes him and stays with him and therefore are trusting he is good based on Jim's opinion.  But Jim also likes some pretty quirky people and some that carry a lot of controversy around them and may not appear as "nice" publicly, but that does not mean that they are "bad" either.  So that doesn't tell us anything either.  I am not dissing anyone here but I find it intriguing that fans always feel they know an actor or their significant other based on publicity and pictures.  Unless you are a personal friend of them, you don't know them, yet everyone here acts like they know these two men so well and that they are perfection.  They aren't. They are human beings that get up, shower, brush their teeth dress and then work hard (or at least Jim does) and beyond that we don't know much else about them and what they are really like.  Both men laugh, cry and have good days and bad ones.  I am sure both can be sweet and adorable and then bears and frustrating.   But it is funny to see people get upset when someone mentions that wording is odd in an article and points out that it could be construed as a "diss" even though they were not even indicating that it was a definite diss.  They were more making a comment on the person writing the summary of the interview than they were commenting on the relationship, yet everyone got in a tizzy thinking they know that Jim and Todd are perfect and how dare anyone say Jim dissed Todd. I suspect there are times Jim has dissed him both privately and in public.  Does that mean he dislikes Todd or that there is trouble? Not necessarily. It happens. He is a human and sometimes opens mouth before thinking like all of us have that ability to do.  But insinuating someone is creating drama over poor wording is hilarious.  It just is so amusing to watch everyone get so sensitive when in reality none of us know either of these men.  I just have to laugh at it because it is so dang funny. Wow - that was a bit heavy handed.  You take all this time to point out we don't know these people but you act as if you do??  I am a fan of Jim Parsons and have a huge amount of respect for his significant other.  You can tell from your writing you don't think much of Todd at all.  You make it sound like Jim is doing some huge favor by allowing Todd to be in his life.  Since you are such close personal friends with the couple you would know this information - right?  No disrespect intended but this was very preachy and well - crossing a line in my honest opinion.  I do not post often but this one floored me and felt the need to say something. 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nickelette424 Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Thanks for sharing your amusement at our conversation. I don't think anyone was trying to imply that Jim is perfect or that Todd is perfect or anything else. You like to use the word "seem" a lot--Jim "seems" to "favor" Todd--when I think Jim has made some public statements about the nature of their relationship. I think it's fair to believe that Jim loves Todd and Todd loves Jim. I think that much was made plain at the GLSEN ceremony. Yeah, they're not going to air whatever dirty laundry they may have--everyone gripes to or about their SO at some point in life--but whatever occasional fusses they may have with each other have obviously not been significant enough to come between them, since they've been together so long. Whether or not he chooses to hold Todd's hand or put his arm around him can be something his publicist suggests, or it could actually be something Jim WANTS to do. Isn't it possible that Jim would actually want to hold hands with Todd? In earlier years Jim was very circumspect and rarely mentioned Todd, but it seems that ever since he was in the Normal Heart movie he's been more and more open about Todd and their relationship. No, he's still not talking about personal details, but I think that's just his private nature. He has made it clear that his relationship with Todd is about love. Thanks Phanta for saying alot of what I was thinking. ETA, Star they're have been times were you made comments as if you privy to and know more than what is told of Jim and/or Mayim and their relationship. Pot/kettle; glass houses and such. Edited December 18, 2014 by nickelette424 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Thanks Phanta for saying alot of what I was thinking. ETA, Star they're have been times were you made comments as if you privy to and know more than what is told of Jim and/or Mayim and their relationship. Pot/kettle; glass houses and such.  Touche! And oddly I do throw myself in the group of us that have presumed things.  So yes...I agree with you on this...which makes it all the more amusing!   You can tell from your writing you don't think much of Todd at all.  You make it sound like Jim is doing some huge favor by allowing Todd to be in his life.  Since you are such close personal friends with the couple you would know this information - right?  I don't know him. I can't dislike or like him because I don't know him. I respect that Jim spends his life with him and so he must have qualities that are appealing, but that doesn't mean that I know him to say he is likeable or un-enchanting either.  I am simply pointing out I cannot formulate an opinion on him because I don't know him and because he is not in the public sector we even know less about him, than we do Jim or any other celebrity.  I can't be "in love" with someone I don't know.  A lot of fans say they love Todd. How can you love someone you don't know? I am just simply pointing out sometimes we put people on pedestals. Sadly often when you meet those people the pedestal crumbles and then it can hurt.  I just have to remind myself and am trying to remind others that we need to keep these things in check.  Todd may be a lovely person. He may be a jerk. I have no idea what he is like. We have never even heard him speak other than to say perhaps one sentence at most.  So we just don't know him enough to love him. Maybe you can like him by association because you like Jim, but to love him?  That seems a bit "out there" to me.  Same with their relationship.  We can respect the relationship and appreciate the fact that Jim seems content. That is about it.  We don't know if they have rocky days and over the moon days. And honestly I don't care to know. I think it is hard to "love" a relationship we are not part of or privvy to. It may just be the scientist in me. I am a person that needs facts and proof before attaching that kind of emotion to it. Edited December 18, 2014 by stardustmelody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamyyy^-^ Posted December 18, 2014 Share Posted December 18, 2014 it's obvious that everybody founds own emotions and  own perceptions around these people. We don't know them  and won't we ever know them probably, therefore does this mean that should not have opinions on them? What sense would have this forum? We discuss and everybody expresses own opinion.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 Aw Jim just posted about being on the late show with craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Such a Hag Posted December 19, 2014 Share Posted December 19, 2014 (edited) It "seems" he really enjoys being on Craig's show. Edited December 19, 2014 by Such a Hag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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