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6.17 The Monster Isolation (Feb. 21)


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give them gifts

 

Even if you feel the EC which reduced Amy to tears wasn't a gift, because a gift 'has' to be conventional.. you're saying the tiara wasn't a gift either?

 

Not trying to convince anyone (have given up on that), but this just stuck out to me.

 

 

I completely agree that the actors shouldn't be belittled for their looks, of all things. 

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Penny and Bernadette have happy relationships??? Did you watch the V-day episode? All three couples have their spats and recover. To say that there's some kind of statement in the show about relationship happiness based on the actresses' PERCEIVED attractiveness is absolutely ridiculous. 

 

I think there's a bit of desperation to grasp at straws going around here. 

 

eta: And bringing out good ol' Chuck here. Whether you see it or not, is irrelevant. There are plenty of standard relationships on tv, if some of us like to watch this one for its uniqueness and you want to think we're sad, by all means go ahead. We'll keep enjoying it.

 

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Not many people love him, but I respect Chiam Levine - you go Chuck!

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Hey. Does anyone have or think they can get info on the jacket Howard wore in this episode. I thought it looked awesome and would love to add it to my collection. Unfortunatly I can't seem to find it yet.

 

 

This one in case you forgot....lol

 

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Ok, I read a guide to "A Streetcar...". If Penny is Blanche, then Kurt was some flavour of gay ( not implausible) and maybe Penny caught him "at work" - hence the comittment trauma. Leonard as Mitch, no. Sheldon as Mitch idk, more likely Stuart. Definitely favour Leonard as a shorter Stanley - so lets start wishing for him in a singlet. But it works better then with Penny as Stella.

Amy as Stella and Sheldon as Stanley gives you Leonard as Mitch and Sheldon as a very bad person.

There was a reason they picked it but idk. I believe they ran it long as a tag because they respected the work.

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Even if you feel the EC which reduced Amy to tears wasn't a gift, because a gift 'has' to be conventional.. you're saying the tiara wasn't a gift either?

 

Not trying to convince anyone (have given up on that), but this just stuck out to me.

 

 

I completely agree that the actors shouldn't be belittled for their looks, of all things. 

 

Well Sheldon could not be bothered to buy a valentine day gift himself while Howard on the other hand toiled 12 hours to make one for Bernie. The one gift which was awesome for Amy,he took for himself and the "gift" he gave her did not turn out ot be tht great after all.I am assuming Amy took Leonard's duty as being Sheldon's personal nurse.

 

As for the tiara, didn't Penny choose it?

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Well Sheldon could not be bothered to buy a valentine day gift himself while Howard on the other hand toiled 12 hours to make one for Bernie. The one gift which was awesome for Amy,he took for himself and the "gift" he gave her did not turn out ot be tht great after all.I am assuming Amy took Leonard's duty as being Sheldon's personal nurse.

 

As for the tiara, didn't Penny choose it?

 

No, Penny was suggesting something else, hence the "You were right, tiara was too much".

 

In any case, whether the gift is great or not depends on the person's reaction when they receive it. The whole point of that scene was that if he had given her all of that material stuff he wouldn't have gotten the reaction he did because with the EC he was essentially telling her "If something happens to me, I want you to be there", which is what she wants the most right now: reassurance that she's important. Hell, the whole title of the episode is about that gift! There is also nothing to suggest that Leonard was his EC before (the time he came and fetched him from the ball pit wasn't an emergency and he wasn't at work), that's just an assumption. But even if it were a continuity error, again, it's her reaction that makes the gift and the intention of the writers with that gift. If the writers intention had been to say that the gift wasn't that great and Sheldon was just being selfish they would have had her react the same way she did with the Star Trek dvds.

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Logically the emergeny contact before Amy had to be Leonard, there is no chance it could be anyone else.

 

So if he replaced Leonard with Amy then it is not a big deal for Shledon.It was for Amy but that was never Sheldon's intention. Basically he lucked into a gift which made Amy happy for a little bit of time.

 

Amy is the female Leonard. And both of them are just pathetic with their brown nose attitude in their respective relationships.

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Logically? That is, again, just an assumption. My emergency contact is my father and he lives in another country. I would never have my roommate make life or death decisions for me. It could very well have been his mother.

 

In any case, I repeat, Sheldon was very well aware that the gift was going to make her happy BEFORE she reacted the way she did. It's pretty obvious from the way he gives it to her and waits smiling and telling her where to read. 

 

If the writers had wanted it not to be a big deal, they wouldn't have set up the scene the way they did. 

 

But whatever, as I said, it's not everyone's cup of tea, and that's fine. 

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I think his emergency contact would have to have been Leonard. Remember, Amy had to leave work for Sheldon's "emergencies." I find it highly unlikely that his previous contact would have been someone not in close proximity.

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It could be, but we also never heard Leonard mention anything about Sheldon's "emergencies" in the past. It could very well be that the tag was just meant to be what it is: a funny tag. And/or Sheldon's way to test out his new EC, like he did with the RA when he got the splinter. I doubt Sheldon normally has that many emergencies on a daily basis or he would never get any work done. In any case, even if she were taking Leonard's place, the point of the gift still stands: she's the most important person in his life now.

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It could be, but we also never heard Leonard mention anything about Sheldon's "emergencies" in the past. It could very well be that the tag was just meant to be what it is: a funny tag. And/or Sheldon's way to test out his new EC, like he did with the RA when he got the splinter. I doubt Sheldon normally has that many emergencies on a daily basis or he would never get any work done. In any case, even if she were taking Leonard's place, the point of the gift still stands: she's the most important person in his life now.

 

Yeah, but it's kind of a given that it was Leonard. Sheldon did ask him to check him for 'chair lice' at work, so I assume he's used to just pooping in whenever he has a crisis. In any case, they are showing that Amy is taking over Leonard's duties and Sheldon obviously thinks it's a great honour.  :icon_lol:

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The emergency contact for work is not necessarily the same person that makes final decisions at a hospital. Typically it is someone nearby. Also When Raj signed temporary room mate papers with Sheldon, they spoke of a reciprocity clause, and Leonard said, "don't worry, you get to pull the plug on him (Sheldon) too."  

 

So that points to Leonard being the previous work EC.

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Logically? That is, again, just an assumption. My emergency contact is my father and he lives in another country. I would never have my roommate make life or death decisions for me. It could very well have been his mother.

 

 

What?!?  I think you are confusing an emergency contact with medical power of attorney.  The EC's job is to give you a ride home from the hospital or in worse cases contact your family and friends.   Even the way it was being portrayed in the episode was stupid because the whole point of the EC is for someone from the university to call Amy after Sheldon was taken to a hospital not for Sheldon to call her himself.  He was clearly abusing the situation.

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It could be, but we also never heard Leonard mention anything about Sheldon's "emergencies" in the past. It could very well be that the tag was just meant to be what it is: a funny tag. And/or Sheldon's way to test out his new EC, like he did with the RA when he got the splinter. I doubt Sheldon normally has that many emergencies on a daily basis or he would never get any work done. In any case, even if she were taking Leonard's place, the point of the gift still stands: she's the most important person in his life now.

 

No, Sheldon is the most important person in Sheldon's life.

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Ok, I read a guide to "A Streetcar...". If Penny is Blanche, then Kurt was some flavour of gay ( not implausible) and maybe Penny caught him "at work" - hence the comittment trauma. Leonard as Mitch, no. Sheldon as Mitch idk, more likely Stuart. Definitely favour Leonard as a shorter Stanley - so lets start wishing for him in a singlet. But it works better then with Penny as Stella.

Amy as Stella and Sheldon as Stanley gives you Leonard as Mitch and Sheldon as a very bad person.

There was a reason they picked it but idk. I believe they ran it long as a tag because they respected the work.

 

As much as I love plays, I've never seen "Streetcar".  Putting it on my to-do list.

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I try to not get into things like this, but no matter what you believe that gives you no right to say that it has to do with a character's appearance. I know plenty of people (including myself) who think that something about their appearance will make it where they can't have a boyfriend who loves them and cares about them and that's a shame. It has a way of making you feel absolutely terrible about yourself. Amy and Sheldon may not have a conventional relationship (and I'm sure that if Raj and Lucy become a well-established couple their relationship won't be conventional) but that works for them and that's what matters. Sheldon has a lot of problems that he's trying to overcome. He knows that Amy deserves more than he is giving, so he's trying to work on that and that shows how much he cares about her. 

 

 

As long as you understand that working to improve oneself is not an expression of love it is only trying to get to a place where you can express love.  Of the 5 love languages Sheldon, to my recollection, has never expressed anything without being prompted and in some cases coerced.  The one and only reason this relationship seems to work for them is because it is totally fictional.

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As long as you understand that working to improve oneself is not an expression of love it is only trying to get to a place where you can express love.  Of the 5 love languages Sheldon, to my recollection, has never expressed anything without being prompted and in some cases coerced.  The one and only reason this relationship seems to work for them is because it is totally fictional.

 

Oh gosh the  point I'm trying to make is that plain people deserve happiness and normal relationships just like the Pennys and Bernadettes of this world. They don't need to settle for Sheldon's nasty leavings. Why can't Lucy be a happy nerdy girl?  Hollywood puts a very twisted emphasis on female beauty vs male regular looks . Males are permitted to be plain like Leonard and get the pretty girl, but not visa versa.

 

Ar Diem is a guy and thinks Sheldon treats Amy terribly, I'm a gay girl and feel the same way (and Sheldon was my favourite character) It shocks me that most of the straight women here think the Shamy is just fine and make excuses for Sheldon's uncaring selfishness.

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As long as you understand that working to improve oneself is not an expression of love it is only trying to get to a place where you can express love.  Of the 5 love languages Sheldon, to my recollection, has never expressed anything without being prompted and in some cases coerced.  The one and only reason this relationship seems to work for them is because it is totally fictional.

I disagree, working on oneself so that they can get to a place where they express love is an expression.  It shows that Sheldon cares enough to do something about it.  He could not care and say what the hell take it or leave it....I ain't changing. :)

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Oh gosh the  point I'm trying to make is that plain people deserve happiness and normal relationships just like the Pennys and Bernadettes of this world. They don't need to settle for Sheldon's nasty leavings. Why can't Lucy be a happy nerdy girl?  Hollywood puts a very twisted emphasis on female beauty vs male regular looks . Males are permitted to be plain like Leonard and get the pretty girl, but not visa versa.

 

Ar Diem is a guy and thinks Sheldon treats Amy terribly, I'm a gay girl and feel the same way (and Sheldon was my favourite character) It shocks me that most of the straight women here think the Shamy is just fine and make excuses for Sheldon's uncaring selfishness.

Sheldon shows more kindness to Amy than all of the other characters because he's in love.... :shy: He's made some mistakes, but he dosn't make the same mistakes...so he's learning...Ar Diem is thinking realistic from a guy's point of view and not the point of view that is the fictional character of Sheldon.  If it was reality based,Leonard wouldn't have lasted that long. In the real world, would I date a Sheldon...nope.  Not because of his ocd, just that I wouldn't have the patience. :p   We could be friends.

 

Anyway, if you think Sheldon is a terrible character, then why do you want him for Penny? 

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What if they gave Amy an alternative to Sheldon as a season closer? He is no great boyfriend  - and they have not actually played the jealousy card on him. Let Amy have her appropriately qualified substitute.

 

The male Dr Hofstadter snr is available - it would be like Magnum PI in Friends.  And it would re-juice the Shamy. And mess with Leonard.

 

Weirder than Raj/Penny? Not really. Weird enough? IDK.

 

just putting it out there.

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Ok, I read a guide to "A Streetcar...". If Penny is Blanche, then Kurt was some flavour of gay ( not implausible) and maybe Penny caught him "at work" - hence the comittment trauma. Leonard as Mitch, no. Sheldon as Mitch idk, more likely Stuart. Definitely favour Leonard as a shorter Stanley - so lets start wishing for him in a singlet. But it works better then with Penny as Stella.

Amy as Stella and Sheldon as Stanley gives you Leonard as Mitch and Sheldon as a very bad person.

There was a reason they picked it but idk. I believe they ran it long as a tag because they respected the work.

 

Aha! I don't see any of the other characters in those roles myself. Leonard is no Stanley. To me, it's a moment just for Penny. I don't feel it's about the present, or Leonard. It's like she's being nostalgic, reflecting on her past and how it affected her. Just my take...

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What if they gave Amy an alternative to Sheldon as a season closer? He is no great boyfriend  - and they have not actually played the jealousy card on him. Let Amy have her appropriately qualified substitute.

 

The male Dr Hofstadter snr is available - it would be like Magnum PI in Friends.  And it would re-juice the Shamy. And mess with Leonard.

 

Weirder than Raj/Penny? Not really. Weird enough? IDK.

 

just putting it out there.

Um, no.

I don't think Amy is in any way looking for any kind of alternative to Sheldon, certainly not at this point. I can maybe see Sheldon being jealous if Amy got some new research partner. I think that just like Leonard with Alex, she might be flattered at some male attention, but I don't think she'd be looking for an alternative to her "best boyfriend".

And if some guy were to suddenly start coming on to her she might actually get a little scared, since she's pretty much as inexperienced as Sheldon is.

But we've already seen Sheldon jealous of Stuart, so I don't know that they'd be interested in going down that path again.

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