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Considering how Sheldon has been in the last couple of episodes, it is time for something to happen. With both of Howard/Bernie and Sheldon/Amy plots, they've been a bit hot and cold. One episode they are having a hard time, then they have a good one. At least Howard gets that he messes up, Sheldon not only doesn't make mistakes, but any problem is solely Amy's fault.

With Penny and Leonard, it is high time to meet some family. A Thanksgiving trip to Nebraska or New Jersey is due.

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With Penny and Leonard, it is high time to meet some family. A Thanksgiving trip to Nebraska or New Jersey is due.

 

On Leonards side, i would prefer the trip to Nebraska :D

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On Leonard's side, i would prefer the trip to Nebraska :D

 

Amen. In Nebraska, Leonard is a minor god to Penny's folks, while in New Jersey he is "The Disappointing Child" or "Needy Baby, Greedy Baby" and Penny is his "Good Natured Simpleton"  sex partner.

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 As I don't see where we have any spoilers past the next episode, it will be interesting to see the big plot twists to hook us over the holiday break. The ground is pretty fertile, but likely Penny and Leonard will be spectators this time around.

 

It looks very likely that the Shamy are going to be the one's in the relationship drama spotlight. TPTB have been setting this up all this season with Amy's dissatifaction with Sheldon lack of progress and how in Ep1 and EP3 she has fun with other type of men (oddly enongh, Howard-like).

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Amen. In Nebraska, Leonard is a minor god to Penny's folks, while in New Jersey he is "The Disappointing Child" or "Needy Baby, Greedy Baby" and Penny is his "Good Natured Simpleton"  sex partner.

 

You nailed it. I still don't know why Leonard always tried to be nice to his mother. If i would have a mother like this, i would just ignore and leave her alone. For example the drive to the airport. He takes her to the airport and gets not even a little credit. I hope for some kind of "revenge-episode" later this season...

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Leonard just wants his mom to see something good in him I don't think that's going to change. 

 

I think how they're doing the relationship this season is working, with small things like cuddling and then bigger things like Penny and her Leonard box thrown in - it's not too much but it's not too little, and keeps us hoping for more :) Thanksgiving will be interesting! Burnt & frozen turkey anyone? 

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Leonard just wants his mom to see something good in him I don't think that's going to change.

 

She isn't going to change too. Why does he not see that?

 

 

I think how they're doing the relationship this season is working, with small things like cuddling and then bigger things like Penny and her Leonard box thrown in - it's not too much but it's not too little, and keeps us hoping for more :) Thanksgiving will be interesting! Burnt & frozen turkey anyone?

 

Agreed. I'm wondering what Penny is planning on Valentine's Day this year, after she screwed up the last one. Really looking forward to that :)

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I think people give Beverley a hard time based on how she raised him, I dont think she is a bad person kinda like Sheldon is has always been very emotionally stunted. Not that this is an excuse for the way she treats Leonard, because its not but at the very at least, it can give you an insight into the reasons why Beverley has always been so emotionally distant, just ask Leonards father. Imagine Sheldon as Leonards father, thats what it is like Beverley being his mother. Although she has shown so sign of any physical proof that she cares and loves Leonard, I just think its hard for her maybe it was the way her Mother raised her. intelligence and education was the biggest aspect of human nature to her, and well always come first before human emotion and relationships, its just the way she is built. Shes not stupid shes aware of Leonards issues with the way she raised him, she even acknowledged it in S3, "Leonard I am not in the mood right now for your need for approval". Being a psychologist she approaches everything in life from a clinical perspective, so I think sub-conciousley she feels everyone has a story, so her approach to her relationship with Leonard has always been so clinical opposed to emotional, I just dont think she has ever considered the idea that all Leonard wanted was affection, in her eyes Leonard is the dissapointing child compared to his other successfull brothers, so maybe clinically deep down Beverley doesent give Leonard affection, because from her vantage she feels he doesent deserve it.

 

But obviousley Leonard has turned out amazingly well, and is very succesfull in his field, the last time we saw Beverley though their was no mention of his expedition, I am not even sure she knew. But if she did it may impress her, and it may reinforce the idea that approval and love is not something you need to work for, or an obligation it is something that should come from genuine emotion. Its kinda the same way why Penny dated guys who were a particular type, sub-conciousley either trying to create an alternate reality, or trying to please her father who always refered to her as his little "slugger". Beverly has her advantages though has horrible as she can be at times, I feel advice like "Buckle up", was good advice actually and went a long way it bringing out Leonards assertive side, he grew up thinking love and approval had to be earnt, but meeting Penny who is basically the complete opposite of his mother, warm and affectionate slowly deconstucted his entire philosphy on human construct. Its one of the reasons why Leonard and Penny are perfect for each other, I am not excusing Beverley's actions, but shes wasent a horrible mother for no reason at all. 

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^^^^Yeah, no. Agree to disagree as Zac said.

If I had a dollar every time someone referenced Zac on this site, I would have a dollar ;).

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Leonard holding up a jumper to Penny that says Lenny on it just gives me so many Lenny feels even though that's not even the meaning o this picture but whatever it's cute. I love that she's drinking tea or coffee or whatever, so homey. 

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Leonard holding up a jumper to Penny that says Lenny on it just gives me so many Lenny feels even though that's not even the meaning o this picture but whatever it's cute. I love that she's drinking tea or coffee or whatever, so homey. 

Oh crap the writers read fan fic lol.

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Oh crap the writers read fan fic lol.

Not necessarily, Lenny can be a short, informal version of Leonard.

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Not necessarily, Lenny can be a short, informal version of Leonard.

True I dont think the writers well be incorporating any of ff writers ideas any time soon into the show lol, but still its contriving seeing Lenny in actual form int he show. 

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With kaleys current situation with Ryan on getting married and wanting to have babies. And from going that we are too busy right now to plan the wedding to now planning it seems for ASAP (tomorrow). I would think that the L/P relationship may be taking a back seat for awhile. It has to have some effect on the other cast members as we'll and not just Leonard (johnny) Kaley being in the news so much lately has got to have the writers going a little crazy

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With kaleys current situation with Ryan on getting married and wanting to have babies. And from going that we are too busy right now to plan the wedding to now planning it seems for ASAP (tomorrow). I would think that the L/P relationship may be taking a back seat for awhile. It has to have some effect on the other cast members as we'll and not just Leonard (johnny) Kaley being in the news so much lately has got to have the writers going a little crazy

Just my opinion regardless of Kaley follows through with this engagement or not, has no direct or indirect effect on the show or the writers. I mean Kaley and Johnny have dated other people for like 2 years now, in S3 they were dating other people and had no effect on their relationship on the show, so I dont see how Kaleys personal life has anything to do with the her character or the writing in the show. 

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True I dont think the writers well be incorporating any of ff writers ideas any time soon into the show lol, but still its contriving seeing Lenny in actual form int he show.

Bill Prady has made no secret that he dislikes fan fiction, he thinks people should write their own characters. He has also pointed out that the writers are prohibited from reading it. For Legal reasons, I would suspect. The above was in reply to a tweet asking him why certain fan fiction things happened on the show. He pointed out that some ideas are quite obvious and can be thought of by different authors. I can see that as I've read stories that have ideas that are very similar to ideas I've had.

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Like how in the pictures for episode 7.08 how comfortable Penny is sitting on Leonard's couch. Also notice that her Cheesecake Factory uniform is different.

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Bill Prady has made no secret that he dislikes fan fiction, he thinks people should write their own characters. He has also pointed out that the writers are prohibited from reading it. For Legal reasons, I would suspect. The above was in reply to a tweet asking him why certain fan fiction things happened on the show. He pointed out that some ideas are quite obvious and can be thought of by different authors. I can see that as I've read stories that have ideas that are very similar to ideas I've had.

 

The closer the FanFic is to canon, the more likely there is  to be an accidental convergence of ideas. It will be interesting for you to see,Tensor, how close a certain story you write will find that it share points with future events in the series.

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She isn't going to change too. Why does he not see that?

it doesnt matter how screwed up one's parent is, they are still your parent and you hope for the best. Even if it never comes good, one would always hope. If you watch Justified its a good fictional depiction of not the happy ending, that is probably closer to reality. But still one hopes .Until they die, unchanged and unapologetic. :(

Poor Leonard. Go Nebraska!

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it doesnt matter how screwed up one's parent is, they are still your parent and you hope for the best. Even if it never comes good, one would always hope. If you watch Justified its a good fictional depiction of not the happy ending, that is probably closer to reality. But still one hopes .Until they die, unchanged and unapologetic. :(

Poor Leonard. Go Nebraska!

We get Justified here good show, and it is true it doesent matter how much ones parents is screwed up, you always hope for the best seeing you do not have the option of trading them up, oh Leonard would have some fun with that if that was the case lol ;).

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Also notice that her Cheesecake Factory uniform is different.

I believe that's the bartenders uniform

 

personal life has anything to do with the her character or the writing in the show. 

True dat. It's only with something physically unignorable that a writing team would have to take these sorts of things into consideration whilst writing i.e. when she broke her leg. You always work around it rather than directly letting it affect the character. I think they're been giving Leonard & Penny some awesome stuff so far. 

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Like how in the pictures for episode 7.08 how comfortable Penny is sitting on Leonard's couch. Also notice that her Cheesecake Factory uniform is different.

 

I believe that's the bartenders uniform

 

True dat. It's only with something physically unignorable that a writing team would have to take these sorts of things into consideration whilst writing i.e. when she broke her leg. You always work around it rather than directly letting it affect the character. I think they're been giving Leonard & Penny some awesome stuff so far. 

I'm not sure about the uniform and maybe someone else has pointed this out but another picture has Amy and Bernadette at the bar. Amy met Lucy so that's how Penny would know Lucy. She could be pretending to be working.

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