I.Am.Molly Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Oh come on! Penny's topless thing is hardly sleazy! It has been said that it's a shower scene and part of some slasher movie. Just cos she's topless in it, doesnt mean she's going full frontal! I will admit the whole topless thing did kinda bother me at first, not so much Penny doing it, but Leonard showing it off. But when you think of it as just a scene in a movie where shes showering and probably not showing anything explicitly, i don't see the problem with Leonard showing it. It's just Leonard's way. He's always bragged about Penny being his girlfriend and i sort of expected that sort of thing to be shown. I didn't expect it as a topless movie scene, but still. Why couldn't it been that they both googled her name, when they first met her, to see what movies she had done and came across her topless movie, would have making it sound innocent like that be bad? And couldn't the last scene be Leonard, by himself, watching it with sad lonely look on his face, mumbling 'I miss you'. Even better why did they even go with a storyline of Penny doing a topless movie? How do you know that's not what happened? They could have simply googled her and came across the movie. I dont recall anywhere saying how it was found. I'm glad they didn't go with the sad lonely Leonard. I like seeing Leonard happy and enjoying himself, he deserves it. Keep all that deep emotional stuff for fanfiction! haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Hey if Mary Poppins could show her breasts... Just sayin'... Hey, the weirdest thing is 51%+ of people have them. Why always the tone of surprise when they come out? Arrrggghh. Eta... I have a t-shirt that says.... Lol Edited August 22, 2013 by Nogravitasatall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Hey, the weirdest thing is 51%+ of people have them. Why always the tone of surprise when they come out? Arrrggghh. Eta... I have a t-shirt that says.... Lol Yea but what % of those 51% do you want to see? I'd be willing to make "the sacrifice" to see Penny's Edited August 22, 2013 by Chrismo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) The thing is, we covet scarce items. The more you hide things away the more they are coveted. But in this case I'm happy for Leonard to have had the experience. Penny made a naive judgment once that shouldn't haunt her forever, so once they speak about it and share the info they will share the burden, reduce the guilt and all will be happier. Also once things are out there, and no longer scarce, my experience is also that you just go back to the conversation, have a "soda" and watch the boats go by. Or play volleyball. Eta beach cricket. I'd be surprised if they make this a running gag. But it will rate. Edited August 22, 2013 by Nogravitasatall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I think people need some perspective got to bear in mind that Leonard saw the video back in S1, this is a backstory. Back then Leonard was the nerd who desired the hot chick across the hall, they weren't exactly in the place they are in with their relationship now. Back then he just first met her, so he was prob checking her out on her FB page, My Space Page e.t.c. Saw the video once and that was prob hit (well maybe not once haha but you get my point). But as Leonard got to know Penny and became Friends, he prob forgot about it or he values Penny's opinion just like she does with his, and diddn't want to embarass her which is understandble. And it would be different if he was around Sheldon, Howard, and Raj he would prob say put that away. But within his peers having a great time clearly which he deserves, seeing most of the time he plays the anchor dealing with Sheldon and Penny e.t.c. He prob got lost in the moment got carried away he is around his peers, so he prob wanted to brag the same way he would brag if he was at comic con, it was the circumstances he was in. And I am sure if the topic arises Leonard and Penny well talk about Leonard well prob laugh about it, but I don't think this well cause any problems between Lenny at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) ALSO, not to overly bag Sheldon, he is no altruist... I can't go on, because I have to do this in the Shipping Lanes. It's just that Leonard's selfless acts will never be recognised or socialised by his flatmate, because it's not in Sheldon's character to be at all concerned about things that don't involve him. So while this makes Leonard look bad to an observer, because his good acts are not reported, it's not the writers making Leonard look bad, its just a natural consequence of the performance of the established characters. He is not being picked on... things just play out that way when one is involved with Sheldon. If the right circumstances arose Sheldon could easily tell Penny about Leonard's repo-man job on Kurt. Its just that there is nothing in that for Sheldon, so it hasn't come up. Maybe it will. Edited August 23, 2013 by Nogravitasatall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 You know speaking of Sheldon and how he treats Leonard, one of the things that always rubbed me the wrong way was the analogy that somehow Sheldon is like Spock. Sheldon is nothing like Spock, Spock was a loyal friend to KirK, he would die for him, he would cover for him and never insult him like Sheldon does to Leonard. Spock also believed the 'The needs of the many come before the needs of the few or the one', Sheldon believes in 'The needs of the one (him) comes before the needs of the many'. Sheldon is no Spock and it is an insult to what the character Spock is to say he is. Leonard is in a lot of ways like Kirk, he is the alpha male of the group, gets the best girls, cares about his troops and tries to protect them and is a leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 If I was dating Kaley and she had done a topless role in a movie, I'd be showing it to every guy I know, closely followed by "yeah, I'm hitting that." It is not like Leonard was showing people a private sex tape they made together. It's a widely available video on the internet of his hot girlfriend in a movie. Well, then you're crass, immature, and totally insecure. If you were dating Kaley, and you were "hitting that" what the hell difference would it make if your friends knew about it or not? Wouldn't the real pleasure not be in "hitting that" as it were? Are you so shallow that you need other people's validation in order to make something relevant to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I am with you SRAM, I can't go through another Lenny breakup. Watching a tv show shouldn't make you sick to your stomach or your stomach in knots. Watching television is suppose to be about escapism and fun. I am with you Army Girl, and while others may think we over react, they are wrong/ It is not over reaction, it's passion (about TBBT) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Leonard is in a lot of ways like Kirk ...and is a leader. Or like Captain Picard (as stated in the Bakersfield expedition episode) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Well, then you're crass, immature, and totally insecure. If you were dating Kaley, and you were "hitting that" what the hell difference would it make if your friends knew about it or not? Wouldn't the real pleasure not be in "hitting that" as it were? Are you so shallow that you need other people's validation in order to make something relevant to you? I am with you Army Girl, and while others may think we over react, they are wrong/ It is not over reaction, it's passion (about TBBT) I think part of the over reaction is that no one has seen the actual episode. Everyone who goes on the thread here loves the show and IMO love Leonard and Penny. I don't think anyone here wants to see another break up. While the person who was at the actual taping did a wonderful job describing the filming it's just words on a piece of paper. Everyone reads things a little differently. Anyone on here seems to have a passion for the show. My take on the "video" is this. Penny told Sheldon about the video. He tells her that he and Leonard have already seen it. The tag at the end of the show seems to show Leonard watching the video with his boat "mates" while partying. To me they were trying to show the irony between Penny mentioning the video and then Leonard watching it. Will they make a point about this in later episodes? Who knows. If anything it appears maybe Leonard was drunk and may have used bad judgement. Not the first time this has happened on TBBT (Raj/Penny for example). In regards to the persons comment about Kaley and" hitting on that" that's like anything else. You may not like it but it's just someone's opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Mississippis Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 It's not a problem. I was going back and forth, trying to take away pitchforks and dousing torches, along with calming the rioting villagers. I've probably left several different versions. LOL! At this! But I still consider myself an uncalmed rioting villager! Leonard sharing the video while drinking is also different than if he was sober. Like I said initially, I need to see the show to before I get even up my crazy, but I hope this is case -- Leonard is sloshed. This would make what I see as a complete lack of judgement in his case, somewhat understandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I.H.S.F.C. Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Well, then you're crass, immature, and totally insecure. If you were dating Kaley, and you were "hitting that" what the hell difference would it make if your friends knew about it or not? Wouldn't the real pleasure not be in "hitting that" as it were? Are you so shallow that you need other people's validation in order to make something relevant to you? Take your white knight routine somewhere else. I'm sorry if my explanation of how most red-blooded males in the company of a bunch of other males would act somehow offended your delicate sensibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiara Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) You know speaking of Sheldon and how he treats Leonard, one of the things that always rubbed me the wrong way was the analogy that somehow Sheldon is like Spock. Sheldon is nothing like Spock, Spock was a loyal friend to KirK, he would die for him, he would cover for him and never insult him like Sheldon does to Leonard. Spock also believed the 'The needs of the many come before the needs of the few or the one', Sheldon believes in 'The needs of the one (him) comes before the needs of the many'. Sheldon is no Spock and it is an insult to what the character Spock is to say he is. Leonard is in a lot of ways like Kirk, he is the alpha male of the group, gets the best girls, cares about his troops and tries to protect them and is a leader. I think the show made that point once. When Sheldon performed his Star Trek-themed autobiographical play with Penny, he ended up breaking down because, ultimately, he did not want to go with Spock and leave his mommy behind. Spock is 100% adult : all about responsibility and duty. Sheldon is a little boy. Because of his remarkable intelligence and superb vocabulary, it might be easy to forget that but this is what he is. With all the good and all the bad, the beautiful innocence and the utter selfishness, the odd bouts of utter generosity and the dictatorial tendencies. Even his distaste for physical contact and displays of affection is child-like : he reacts like a four-year-old who shouts "eww" when he sees grown-ups embracing each other or wipes his cheek after his mom kissed him. He is growing up, but it is taking quite a while. However, he shall never be Spock. And while he may be unaware of the fact, the writers are not fooled, I think Edited August 23, 2013 by Chiara Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonbase Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wow, the Sheldon hate is fully rammed up these days. Another one of my predictions comes to pass. The Sheldon backlash!! Not that I can blame you. He was my No.1 favourite character of all time. Way above Leonard, but sadly even I find him a bit of a fool at times now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidley Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Bottom line for me is if Penny finds out she will go Nebraska on Leonard, but will not take him to the curb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGirl Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Bottom line for me is if Penny finds out she will go Nebraska on Leonard, but will not take him to the curb. I feel Penny should remember the Valentine Day Dinner and how she behaved and how Leonard dealt with the situation. As for going Nebraska on him --- I rather Penny walk away if she feels the need for violence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 (edited) It's not a problem. I was going back and forth, trying to take away pitchforks and dousing torches, along with calming the rioting villagers. I've probably left several different versions. LOL! At this! But I still consider myself an uncalmed rioting villager! Like I said initially, I need to see the show to before I get even up my crazy, but I hope this is case -- Leonard is sloshed. This would make what I see as a complete lack of judgement in his case, somewhat understandable.I ve got Stockholm Syndrome. But I'm going to come back to the "my girlfriends in a movie, I'm so proud of her, bad role, but its a movie and she's gorgeous and wow and oh yeah topless, but that's not the point she's gorgeous and she love ME.." And she's in the company of actors like Charlize Theron, Naomi Watts, Halle Berry and Meryl Streep. He's STUPID, perhaps, but also perhaps had some exposure to art and cinema culture. He's put Penny on a pedestal and has no idea that showing it around could be misconstrued. It's not a sex tape. Anyway, that's my take. Men ARE stupid sometimes, with complete blind spots and tunnel vision. Or it's just me. Edited August 23, 2013 by Nogravitasatall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Wow, the Sheldon hate is fully rammed up these days. Another one of my predictions comes to pass. The Sheldon backlash!! Not that I can blame you. He was my No.1 favourite character of all time. Way above Leonard, but sadly even I find him a bit of a fool at times now. Don't really hate him, just a little sick of him, right now. He is an important part of the show and is one of the reasons it is a big hit. But the show is too centered around him, for my taste. I get sick of, let's do something funny and see what Sheldon's response is to it. So sometimes I just vent. I really like all the characters in the show, I would just like to see a little more ballance that is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tensor Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 No it's not just you, and its not just males. I've been separated from my wife due to my job for up to seven months, in a situation somewhat similar( we weren't on a ship, but rather isolated on land, supply by plane once a week or so) It's not just the men that act foolish in that situation and people who were social drinkers(me included) became heavier drinkers(a pallet of booze and beer every other week or so on average on the plane). So Leonard being drunk doing stupid things is par for the course. Once back home, the return your previous home behavior is rather rapid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 No it's not just you, and its not just males. I've been separated from my wife due to my job for up to seven months, in a situation somewhat similar( we weren't on a ship, but rather isolated on land, supply by plane once a week or so) It's not just the men that act foolish in that situation and people who were social drinkers(me included) became heavier drinkers(a pallet of booze and beer every other week or so on average on the plane). So Leonard being drunk doing stupid things is par for the course. Once back home, the return your previous home behavior is rather rapid. thanks And, i can see that "in character" Leonard could be oblivious his act being construed as exploitative. He's proud of his girlfriend. Also we now know that if Penny gets a movie role he wont freak out if she gets a less than brilliant part. She's a hot blonde (sad for him, i know) and she is likely to be cast in eye-candy roles early in her career. And Leonard is good with that - but of course he would be hopeful for better parts - but he would be appreciative of her work. Also he knows film culture so he would know this too. So not a bad act on Leonard, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nogravitasatall Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Bottom line for me is if Penny finds out she will go Nebraska on Leonard, but will not take him to the curb. I feel Penny should remember the Valentine Day Dinner and how she behaved and how Leonard dealt with the situation. As for going Nebraska on him --- I rather Penny walk away if she feels the need for violence. I took this to mean a spat - a metaphorical Nebraska event. It is tremendous fodder for a classic misunderstanding. Penny: - oh that's my deepest secret, how could you Leonard: - You were so good in that. They lit you nicely and your performance was very good. The angles in the shower were reminiscent of Hitchcock. You know that same thing happened to Charlize Theron. i'm so proud.... Penny: You rat bastard, how could you? Leonard: But its part of your body of work. A REAL movie. Penny: Body! that's all you see. My body . And you showed me off Leonard: No no no no no ..... ... then they make up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squidley Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Definitely no violence, but maybe a little Shamy style of punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGirl Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Definitely no violence, but maybe a little Shamy style of punishment. Sorry I misunderstood what you mean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRAM Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Definitely no violence, but maybe a little Shamy style of punishment. That would be sort of funny, but way too erotic for the show. If you picture Penny laying over Leonard's lap, her butt sticking out, and him spanking it, you can see that is a little too much sex for the show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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