Spoilers Leonard And Penny Season 7 *spoiler* Discussion Thread

[ArmyGirl]

Now we have to wait until January 14th, 2014 to find out what happens! Do we know if anyone is going to that taping? I hate cliffhangers when it pertains to Lenny!

Cliffhangers have never been Lenny or Lenny Fans friend.

[SodidIwin?]

I think this will end in a really good resolution for Lenny but I don't think the proposal will come until the season finale or sweeps season. I think we will get a talk very similar to 6x16/7x06 and they'll move forward... I will be REALLY disappointed mad if they choose to use this stupid issue to seperate them so I'm crossing my fingers for Leonard/Penny here. Thankfully we get a taping report next week.

Is there a taping next week? I thought they were now done for the year. Do we know anyone that is going to next weeks taping then?

[terriblewaitress]

Guys they're not going to break up if Leonard proposed in bed then they're not going to give up just because she proposed drunk like c'mon their relationship is stronger than that

 

I just really want to know what they're gonna do man. 

[menamena]

Now we have to wait until January 14th, 2014 to find out what happens! Do we know if anyone is going to that taping? I hate cliffhangers when it pertains to Lenny!

 

No we don't. The next taping is on 12/17 which is a week from now.

[rachelshamyfan]

Yes a girl from the other forum has standby tickets

[ArmyGirl]

I hope someone is going to the taping and we get some information on what is happening with Leonard and Penny. This is killing me.

[menamena]

^Tomasina who reported 7x09 will be going to the taping next week.

[Guest]

I thought Tomasina is going to 7.13?

[ArmyGirl]

Yes a girl from the other forum has standby tickets

Thanks Rachel for the info. All we have to do now is make it until next Tuesday.

[Chrismo]

It's IMO to have sympathy for both Leonard and Penny in this episode. This was going to be the highlight of her career, friends and family were watching and then nothing. Her comment about ten years and nothing to show for it had nothing to do with Leonard but I can see how he took it that way. I know her drinking will be discussed but you can hardly blame her. Leonard on the other couldn't have said anything to make her feel better. His it was only three lines comment IMO was to try to minimize the overall importance of what happened but it made things worse. In regards to the proposal there is different ways to take that. Penny May have meant it and realized how she has been through the years,although tipsy, and wanted to make Leonard happy. Leonard probably related it to his in bed proposal and had the same reaction Penny did. obviously he as having second thoughts at the end. It will be interesting what Penny's thoughts are. IMO this won't cause a breakup.

[Chiany]

This indeed won't lead to a break-up, they have been through to much for something like this to end it.

I really think it will lead to an actual engagement some how, not sure if that will happen in 7'13 yet (I expect so, don't think it will be dragged out over more then 2 episodes).

[SRAM]

Okay I'm a little worried. Leonard doesn't do anything right with Penny this episode and at the end he doesn't know if they are broken up, there are too many similarities to the bowling alley breakup episode. This show doesn't do linked episodes as a rule, I'm afraid that next episode we might just see them apart.

We always wondered how they could break them up without us disliking one of them or them not being able to get back together. I think they just found a way. I really hope I am wrong.

[Chiany]

Okay I'm a little worried. Leonard doesn't do anything right with Penny this episode and at the end he doesn't know if they are broken up, there are too many similarities to the bowling alley breakup episode. This show doesn't do linked episodes as a rule, I'm afraid that next episode we might just see them apart.

We always wondered how they could break them up without us disliking one of them or them not being able to get back together. I think they just found a way. I really hope I am wrong.

 

If they really brake up because of this, I would "dislike" them both actually.

[terriblewaitress]

Let me post my thesis I thought of whilst cooking my ramen noodles because my heart is in mega Leonard & Penny mode.

 

I think this is a good thing. I hate that the writers are making us wait but that just makes it all the more exciting. Anyways. Leonard is only unsure of their relationship because he gave all the power to Penny in taking the step towards being engaged, and because she wasn't totally sober he didn't want to take advantage of her and say yes. Now he feels crappy because a) he didn't know how to help her and he didn't say 'yes' to her proposal and c) he doesn't know how she's going to react when she's sober. Oh and d) he doesn't want to push her. Likelihood is he knows deep down she needs a bit of time to go over what happened. Penny meanwhile is probably freaking out about what she just did, trying to work out if she meant it or if it was the alcohol talking, and if she'd even had enough alcohol to blame it on that in the first place. She's obviously had it on her mind, considering how touchy she was about her marriage to Zack and then adding a little joke after saying she'd marry for love, and also her dream that she met Leonard anyway without Sheldon's existence, plus all the other adorable stuff this season with her romantic little box of things and trying her hardest to find something meaningful. Neither of them want to break up, but neither of them are brave enough to go back and say 'listen, here's the deal' because they're stubborn little snowflakes, the pair of them.

 

And I'm not sure where the similarities are with the bowling alley episode or why people are worried. Penny's said herself "you can't just take something like that back" and last time, they didn't break up, so why should they now? Leonard just over thinks everything. 

 

Can't wait to see next weeks taping report and find out what happens! 

[SodidIwin?]

Okay I'm a little worried. Leonard doesn't do anything right with Penny this episode and at the end he doesn't know if they are broken up, there are too many similarities to the bowling alley breakup episode. This show doesn't do linked episodes as a rule, I'm afraid that next episode we might just see them apart.We always wondered how they could break them up without us disliking one of them or them not being able to get back together. I think they just found a way. I really hope I am wrong.

Except with Lenny 2.0 one of the big differences in their relationship this time around has been communication. Hopefully that won't change now and they can calmly talk this through. The other option is if the want to push it out to episode 150 they show them apart and Penny is getting counsling from her gal pals. The only problem with that would be that they kept them apart for what 3 episodes? I just don't know. The writers sure now how to push the Lenny shippers buttons! They never do this drama crap to this extent with the other couples!

Edited December 11, 2013 by SodidIwin?

[vasu]

I don't quite know how I think about this episode...I'll probably wait for it to air...

 

but as of now... i get the feeling that ... Penny is settling for Leonard.......penny proposing because she did not get the part implies that .....

[SRAM]

Except with Lenny 2.0 one of the big differences in their relationship this time around has been communication. Hopefully that won't change now and they can calmly talk this through. The other option is if the want to push it out to episode 150 they show them apart and Penny is getting counsling from her gal pals. The only problem with that would be that they kept them apart for what 3 episodes? I just don't know. The writers sure now how to push the Lenny shippers buttons! They never do this drama crap to this extent with the other couples!

That is my thinking, this is not a breakup where they go out and find other people, this is a period of romantic separation where they take time to think, I don't think it will last till the end of the season. I do hope I am completely wrong. The Shenny's are going to have a field day with these two episodes, Penny kissing Sheldon and Penny & Leonard problems, they will be in heaven. Thanks TPTB.

[Tensor]

I'm not sure the writers would do that. That would leave them in a hole they would have to dig out of. So when she sobers up, like the next week, the writers would have to write that or at least mention it. Also, I'm willing to bet that neither Penny or Leonard mentions it, except between themselves, so the group won't know of it.

Man, this was completely wrong. The left it hanging and Leonard mentioned it to Sheldon.I need Sheldon for help with the retraction.

[hamerman55]

Having not read the taping report, I can only say that having them break up over a druken proposal after losing a big part is ridiculous. Further, that Leonard is well-meaning but inept at helping Penny is just the way Leonard is. He wants to help, but is often hamhanded.

I'm not surprised they wrote this as a cliff-hanger. They hook everyone for the January hiatus, then followup during sweeps in February. I'll bet the contracts get settled after they know how much the commercials ratings are.

Things are often a little fraught with sitcom proposals to create uncertainty. WE KNOW Leonard and Penny will end up together, but a proposal is not "fun" unless there is some doubt as to the answer on the part of the one asking. The writers can't resist (nor would we want them to) putting some drama in a proposal. I think we'd be disappointed if Penny walked in the apartment one day, asked Leonard to marry her, and he said OK. Under virtually any other circumstance, we know Leonard would say yes, so the only way to wring any drama out of a Penny proposal is to arrange is so that Leonard would not automatically say yes.

I do like the idea of Leonard not saying yes right away, in that it makes him less desperate and more confident. He wants Penny to be as committed as he is. A drunken proposal after a career problem is not commitment, it is desperation.

The good thing, as people have mentioned, is that Penny doesn't usually admit her true feelings deliberately. She lets them slip out. Her ILY and the box of mementos are good examples. The other times are when Leonard pins her down and drags it out of her. She didn't admit to insecurity, jealousy or commitment issues until Leonard pinned her down and got her too.

[SodidIwin?]

Man, this was completely wrong. The left it hanging and Leonard mentioned it to Sheldon.I need Sheldon for help with the retraction.

But wasn't that only your first blemish on a perfect record...Oh Swami? So we'll let it slide. Where as Sheldom seems to be making it a habit.

[Oldnavy]

I just read the report and I am not sure where they are headed with this thing between Leonard and Penny.  I will wait for the actual episode because the show is usually better than it appears in the report.  I do think that the writers are trying very hard to string out the Leonard/Penny relationship and it is getting old.  I did not care for Sheldon's question about whether or no their relationship is over.

 

As for Penny's proposal, MJ points out that she(Penny) is a little tipsy but I do not get the idea that she real drunk.  However, her proposal does seem to come from depression over her life circumstance and the alcohol.  I can see why Leonard would hesitate at that moment, but it is not something that should end the relationship.  At the end it seems like Leonard is overthinking everything again. 

[vasu]

Man, this was completely wrong. The left it hanging and Leonard mentioned it to Sheldon.I need Sheldon for help with the retraction.

 

A double blow..  ha ha...

[SodidIwin?]

I just read the report and I am not sure where they are headed with this thing between Leonard and Penny. I will wait for the actual episode because the show is usually better than it appears in the report. I do think that the writers are trying very hard to string out the Leonard/Penny relationship and it is getting old. I did not care for Sheldon's question about whether or no their relationship is over.

As for Penny's proposal, MJ points out that she(Penny) is a little tipsy but I do not get the idea that she real drunk. However, her proposal does seem to come from depression over her life circumstance and the alcohol. I can see why Leonard would hesitate at that moment, but it is not something that should end the relationship. At the end it seems like Leonard is overthinking everything again.

Leonard: What are we doing?

Penny: What do you mean?

Leonard: Every scenario I play out for you and me ends badly.

Penny: That’s because you overthink everything.

Edited December 11, 2013 by SodidIwin?

[DPK]

Well, I was wrong about what happened. Penny proposing drunk was her way of trying to make herself feel better about what happened so Leonard's hesitation is completely understandable.

 

That being said I still don't think we're going to get a genuine engagement between the two until after they've been living together for at least a little bit of time.

[Chrismo]

I don't quite know how I think about this episode...I'll probably wait for it to air...

 

but as of now... i get the feeling that ... Penny is settling for Leonard.......penny proposing because she did not get the part implies that .....

There is a lot of ways to take it. I get what your saying but it also could mean Penny realized what was really important to her.