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I went back and watched the scene again. Sheldon said, "When I decide I wanted to be a physicist". There were no other qualifiers. 

 

And to go along with this, when he was encouraging Penny to follow her dream, the personal narrative he chose to compare it with was turning down being a 'chalk monitor' so it didn't interfere with his decision to become a physicist. What?! That is an elementary school task and not even remotely close to any real life concern that Penny finds herself in and threw herself in: jobless with no real skills, quite likely with minimal savings, a boyfriend who will quite likely be her paying for living expenses if she doesn't get a fantastic break in a few weeks who she has been regularly minimizing. 

 

There is a taping tomorrow night, correct? 

 

I always have a fairly high level of dread going into these but now, for me, it's off the scale. 

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And to go along with this, when he was encouraging Penny to follow her dream, the personal narrative he chose to compare it with was turning down being a 'chalk monitor' so it didn't interfere with his decision to become a physicist. What?! That is an elementary school task and not even remotely close to any real life concern that Penny finds herself in and threw herself in: jobless with no real skills, quite likely with minimal savings, a boyfriend who will quite likely be her paying for living expenses if she doesn't get a fantastic break in a few weeks who she has been regularly minimizing. 

 

There is a taping tomorrow night, correct? 

 

I always have a fairly high level of dread going into these but now, for me, it's off the scale.

To be fair, he did start college, out of the fifth grade. If he decided not to do chalk monitor in fifth grade, so he could concentrate on physics, the statement has some validity.

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To be fair, he did start college, out of the fifth grade. If he decided not to do chalk monitor in fifth grade, so he could concentrate on physics, the statement has some validity.

Also to be fair, if Sheldon had become chalk monitor he might not have lived long enough to have gone to college. Given the way he acts when he has any power.

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The one thing I find interesting is Penny took this leap counting on Leonard to be her safety net for financial support. To do that with her indepence and commitment issues I think that she is more committed to Leonard than she is willing to admit.

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The one thing I find interesting is Penny took this leap counting on Leonard to be her safety net for financial support. To do that with her indepence and commitment issues I think that she is more committed to Leonard than she is willing to admit.

Yeah , no.....

This was never implied in the show

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The one thing I find interesting is Penny took this leap counting on Leonard to be her safety net for financial support. To do that with her indepence and commitment issues I think that she is more committed to Leonard than she is willing to admit.

 

Except she didn't. 

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The one thing I find interesting is Penny took this leap counting on Leonard to be her safety net for financial support. To do that with her indepence and commitment issues I think that she is more committed to Leonard than she is willing to admit.

Obviously. If not maybe that porn audition she turned down a couple years ago would supplement her income. As mentioned earlier what else can she do but waitress. All her resume is the hemorroid commercial, an unseen NCIS,and TCF. Employers aren't going to be pounding on her door to hire her for anything.

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The one thing I find interesting is Penny took this leap counting on Leonard to be her safety net for financial support. To do that with her indepence and commitment issues I think that she is more committed to Leonard than she is willing to admit.

Again, I think they are setting things up for Leonard to move in with Penny. The last time she had a big financial crisis (season 2, episode 14) he offered to be her room mate, and they weren't even dating. As I see it there are only three viable choices to solve this.

1. Penny starts getting acting work. As in enough work to support herself.

 

2. Penny becomes totally dependent on Leonard for support. As in they move in together, or get married, or Leonard just forks over cash to support her. All while Penny continues to look for acting work.

 

3. Penny goes back to working at something else. Penny gets another job and returns to actress/waitress or gives up on the actress part and looks for another career. Penny could go to school for an actual career and not just take a few classes.

 

There could be a middle ground between 1. and 2. but Still I see big changes coming up with L/P's relationship.

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Obviously. If not maybe that porn audition she turned down a couple years ago would supplement her income. As mentioned earlier what else can she do but waitress. All her resume is the hemorroid commercial, an unseen NCIS,and TCF. Employers aren't going to be pounding on her door to hire her for anything.

Penny's best chance of getting work (imo) is if she can be hired for for local stage work or some indi film that catches attention. The pay will probably be next to nothing but the exposure could lead to more.

For that matter, her work in 'Streetcar' could have caught someone's attention, but they haven't had the right part for her yet. If so she could be hired anytime solving her financial problem(s).

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Penny's best chance of getting work (imo) is if she can be hired for for local stage work or some indi film that catches attention. The pay will probably be next to nothing but the exposure could lead to more.

She probably can't. The residual check she got strongly suggests that she is a member of SAG . Non-union commercials rarely pay residuals, which we know she got. Not to mention, national companies (Pfizer the company that makes Preparation H) almost always work under SAG rules. NCIS works under SAG rules and as a member of SAG, not taking non-union work is the first and biggest rule. Stage has it's own union, Equity, that also prohibits non-union work. SAG and Equity are sister unions and respect the others rules. Members of one are eligible for membership in the other.

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What I see happening is Penny gets web famous (ala IRL PhillyD) I mean she's smart (In her own right), has to tools (through Sheldon's fun with flags set up) and she's clearly determined (quitting the cheese cake factory. Either that or she some how magically gets a part, with season finale being devoted to that.

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She should do Survivor...

I don't know about this. Remember Penny told Beverly she hates getting dirty. lol

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The one thing I find interesting is Penny took this leap counting on Leonard to be her safety net for financial support. To do that with her indepence and commitment issues I think that she is more committed to Leonard than she is willing to admit.

Leonard's insecurity (and the running gag it's played for) aside, it's clear that Penny is committed to, and expects to marry Leonard. She's just afraid to act on it.

 

Season 6 episode 16

 

Penny: As long as things keep going great between us, you’ll keep asking me to marry you, and eventually I’m gonna end up saying yes, and then we’re gonna be married forever, and the whole thing just freaks me out.

 

That's not something you'd say if you don't expect to get married to someone. In my mind the only question is when they'll get married not if.

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Oh, by the way I forgot to add the last time..

I don't see a third act coming after 2 episodes of drama...cause the last scene with Leonard Penny Sheldon seemed to be the end of it (as they celebrated their reconciliation)

And if so many people(including some reviewers(posted by some of you)) are seeing something wrong with what is going on between Leonard and Penny then probably there is something wrong going on.

And it seems like I was not the only one who thought the transition of Leonard thinking Penny's decision was a poor one to Leonard saying he is "proud" of Penny was pretty unclear.

And what will happen if Penny lands a role in a movie or a show where she has to kiss other guys? Leonard probably will not approve of it...

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Oh, by the way I forgot to add the last time..

I don't see a third act coming after 2 episodes of drama...cause the last scene with Leonard Penny Sheldon seemed to be the end of it (as they celebrated their reconciliation)

It may not be in the next episode, but they will have to address Penny not having a job. Either by her getting parts, getting a different job, or relying on Leonard to support her while she continues to try to become an actress.

 

And if so many people(including some reviewers(posted by some of you)) are seeing something wrong with what is going on between Leonard and Penny then probably there is something wrong going on.

Does that mean that because there are so many people thinking there isn't something wrong with them mean that there isn't anything wrong?

 

And it seems like I was not the only one who thought the transition of Leonard thinking Penny's decision was a poor one to Leonard saying he is "proud" of Penny was pretty unclear.

And I wasn't the only one who thought it made a lot of sense, considering how things were going for the two or them. Leonard always supported her, he had concerns about it, and just didn't voice those concerns very well. And, the writers are pretty good at wrapping things up quickly, without explaining.

 

And what will happen if Penny lands a role in a movie or a show where she has to kiss other guys? Leonard probably will not approve of it...

Much comedy fodder for the writers.

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It may not be in the next episode, but they will have to address Penny not having a job. Either by her getting parts, getting a different job, or relying on Leonard to support her while she continues to try to become an actress.

What I was going for was the third act of Leonard and Penny discussing him supporting/not-supporting her.

 

Does that mean that because there are so many people thinking there isn't something wrong with them mean that there isn't anything wrong?

I said probably.

 

And I wasn't the only one who thought it made a lot of sense, considering how things were going for the two or them. Leonard always supported her, he had concerns about it, and just didn't voice those concerns very well. And, the writers are pretty good at wrapping things up quickly, without explaining.

It making sense and the writers wrapping things up quickly without explaining do not seem to match (if they were both referring to the same episode)

Because I know that they seem to wrap up things without explaining , and I thought this was one of those episodes.

 

Much comedy fodder for the writers.

Yeah,I guess I can see the type of humour coming..Leonard acting pathetic and insecure ... while Penny gets impatient and lashes out at Leonard

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Oh, by the way I forgot to add the last time..

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And what will happen if Penny lands a role in a movie or a show where she has to kiss other guys? Leonard probably will not approve of it...

Isn't this the writers fall back plan with Leonard, so it won't be anything new. Leonard already said that Penny would be off cheating on him with "Ryan Gosling" and that he would never sign a pre-nup because "Leonard's Got To Get Paid".

As a Leonard fan all I want or wish is that Leonard could get a storyline that doesn't involve either Penny or Sheldon for a while. I so tried of the same old, same old when it comes to Leonard. Heck the writers could have done something with the North Sea trip but it was all about P/S so I won't hold my breath on Leonard getting a good storyline.

eta: the Ryan Gosling thing is a joke -- don't want anyone to think I am serious!

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What I was going for was the third act of Leonard and Penny discussing him supporting/not-supporting her.

Fair enough.

 

I said probably.

It's still a valid question. Your saying because you and others see something wrong, there probably is. I just asked that if different posters don't see anything wrong, does that mean there probably isn't anything wrong?

 

It making sense and the writers wrapping things up quickly without explaining do not seem to match (if they were both referring to the same episode)

But it did make sense, to me and others. Penny finally understood the point Leonard was trying to explain. And Leonard understood how much trying this meant to Penny. They both understand each other now, so they made up. How's that not an explanation, even if it was quick?

 

Yeah,I can see the type of humour coming..Leonard acting pathetic and insecure ... while Penny gets impatient and lashes out at Leonard

I can see other types, but I guess everyone see what they want to see.

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Fair enough.

:)

 

It's still a valid question. Your saying because you and others see something wrong, there probably is. I just asked that if different posters don't see anything wrong, does that mean there probably isn't anything wrong?

probably is wrong / probably isn't wrong have the same probability/meaning in my dictionary.

I posted that because initially I thought I was the only one who thought the transition of Leonard's feelings were not clear.

 

But it did make sense, to me and others. Penny finally understood the point Leonard was trying to explain. And Leonard understood how much trying this meant to Penny. They both understand each other now, so they made up. How's that not an explanation, even if it was quick?

You said the writers are good at wrapping up things without explaining , and you said it made sense to you.

Can you see where I got confused?

For me it was not clear and did not make much sense. 

I can see other types, but I guess everyone see what they want to see.

I too can see other types ,but I just went with the show's most used and go to comedy scenarios

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Since tomorrow's taping is suppose to be about the guys getting tickets for the convention it doesn't appear to be about a Lenny episode. if the next episode is the Locomotive Manipulation (episode 150) for some reason I think it's going to be a Lenny episode. The episode name makes it too easy to think it's a Sheldon episode.

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Given that the writers fairly quickly resolved the last episode, I doubt there will be any immediate follow up. I was actually surprised that they had two Lenny episodes back to back and with a continuing storyline. I'll bet the next one is a "Bakersfield" type episode, which will be good, but not advance any plot lines. I think the writers will want to milk the situation of Penny being truly broke for a while. I did think that a certain amount of conflict in Lenny would arise before Penny and Leonard got engaged, however. Penny needing serious living money will soon be a friction point, especially since as we've all noted, the logical solution is for them to move in together. It is just as wrong a reason as last year when Leonard wanted to move in to get away from Sheldon. BTW, have it been noticed that Leonard has been particularly cool to Sheldon since that episode?

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You know to be honest, if there is not another episode to complete this thrilogy, then the last two episodes are going to leave me a little empty.  I hope these last two episodes were there for a reason, like people said, to get Penny more into acting or bond her more to Leonard.

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You know to be honest, if there is not another episode to complete this thrilogy, then the last two episodes are going to leave me a little empty.  I hope these last two episodes were there for a reason, like people said, to get Penny more into acting or bond her more to Leonard.

I hope so, too. Personally I think there will be something big, if not during Feb. sweeps then by end of season. I would, however, not be surprised if I'm wrong.

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I think something big is going to happen with Lenny during the Locomotive episode. For one they appear to be taping the train scene now with no audience. Second it appears that Howdette is there so i gotta believe that would kill a Shamy moment. I still think Lenny is on the train. Also it appears they are celebrating Valentine's Day a week early? Lenny's last one was terrible and Penny's doesn't like Valentine's Day so that might be for her benefit. I'm probably just dreaming but maybe a proposal/moving in together from either Leonard or Penny?

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