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I would like to agree with this, but the showrunners have stated that Penny is highly unlikely to be successful as an actress, due to their own experience and perceptions. 

 

So why are they going there now? Why Highlight it?

 

They already have this big Shamy "will they or won''t they" drama, why add more?

 

I hate to sound like a broken record, but it is supposed to be a comedy.

Well the writers sort of painted Penny into a corner now. She quit her job to make a big push to jump start her acting career, so not succeeding will be a failure for her. Having to work at another service job will be a failure to her. Penny feeling like a failure is pure drama, we've seen that already. Having her not have money and having to live with Leonard or him living with her is also not a healthy way for them to live together. So her having limited success, at least able to support herself, seems like the only happy answer.

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So true Tensor.   The most consistent motif the writers have used with Penny is her insecurity about her intelligence and judgement. It pops up constantly in several episodes a season, starting with

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OK, I went and re-watched the show tonight. I was looking at how Leonard and Penny reacted and it became obvious it was a no-win for Leonard. He was obviously sticking his foot in his mouth while tryi

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The first picture is the guys playing board games...

The third is Penny telling Leonard about her car...

The 9th is probably the first scene...

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I'm really hoping that him buying her a car is a complete surprise to her and cute.  It sounds like he is taking her to TCF but really takes her to a car lot and buys the car with her.  I hope it is a big surprise to her, that would be really a nice scene between them for  a change.

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I'm really hoping that him buying her a car is a complete surprise to her and cute.  It sounds like he is taking her to TCF but really takes her to a car lot and buys the car with her.  I hope it is a big surprise to her, that would be really a nice scene between them for  a change.

 

Well, the writer of the taping report said it was a sweet Lenny moment. So, yes, I think it's gonna be a big surprise. She hates the Cheesecake Factory, but then... BAM! Leonard buys her a car so that she doesn't have to go back. Awesome! And I think that's a nice way to show that he really supports her dreams and cares about her.

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Well, the writer of the taping report said it was a sweet Lenny moment. So, yes, I think it's gonna be a big surprise. She hates the Cheesecake Factory, but then... BAM! Leonard buys her a car so that she doesn't have to go back. Awesome! And I think that's a nice way to show that he really supports her dreams and cares about her.

 

I would really like to see it play out that way.  Kaley is good at facial expressions, so Penny taken by complete surprise by such a supportive gesture by Leonard would be a great scene.

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I would really like to see it play out that way.  Kaley is good at facial expressions, so Penny taken by complete surprise by such a supportive gesture by Leonard would be a great scene.

 

Yes, absolutely. Remember how she freaked out about Lakers tickets? That's nothing compared to a car, lol.

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I kept saying I didn't see a problem with them moving in together, so she could continue chasing her dream. It would show that Leonard does, indeed support her. But, buying her a car does the same thing. I really hope we get to see her surprise.

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Yes, absolutely. Remember how she freaked out about Lakers tickets? That's nothing compared to a car, lol.

 

I wonder will Penny mention how much money Leonard spend on the car like she did when he wanted to buy comic con tickets?  

 

Leonard is a good boyfriend even when he can't always say things right when he is trying to support Penny.  I do hope Penny finally understand what she has with Leonard in her corner.

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I can't see it happening without showing Penny's reaction, lol. I would FREAK OUT if someone would buy a car for me just so that I can follow my dreams.

There MUST be some kind of a surprise! It's not like you get a car every day and just say "Okay... thanks".

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I wonder will Penny mention how much money Leonard spend on the car like she did when he wanted to buy comic con tickets?  

 

Leonard is a good boyfriend even when he can't always say things right when he is trying to support Penny.  I do hope Penny finally understand what she has with Leonard in her corner.

 

You know a normal person would understand that, but the writers seem to ignore things like that when it suits them.  I mean a boyfriend who buys you a car, when your goes bad, so that you can continue specifically to follow your dream, is really behind you, he is investing in your future.  Really Penny should be thinking extremely seriously about him and their future after that, because accepting it sort means  a commitment by her if you are someone who is a character like Penny.

There MUST be some kind of a surprise! It's not like you get a car every day and just say "Okay... thanks".

 

No if she did that she would come off looking like a gold-digger, like that deaf girl Raj dated.

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No if she did that she would come off looking like a gold-digger, like that deaf girl Raj dated.

Yep. I'm pretty sure she will appreciate his support and be full of happiness. It's a really big deal!

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What I meant was simply that they could just show them coming into the apartment with the rest of the gang there and her excitedly telling them what Leonard did. Or we don't get to see her reaction when she realizes what Leonard is or has done, but we see a sweet moment of her gratitude after getting back to the apartments.

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It seems as though in every other show they have her drunk so they  more or less already have her as a total failure. Maybe a lovable one, but still a loser.

 

That drinking thing is starting to go too far, I wish they would tone it down a little, because it is getting less and less funny.  Also Penny is suppose to be a sweet girl who doesn't judge people by their cover and that is why she became friends with the gang, because she looked below the candy coating to see the real person inside.  Making her a loser is going to hurt the character, they need to give her a little something, maybe she could get a job at a studio, instead of being a actress, something with a future.  However, I still think it would be funny if she got an actress job playing a waitress, like someone suggested before.

What I meant was simply that they could just show them coming into the apartment with the rest of the gang there and her excitedly telling them what Leonard did. Or we don't get to see her reaction when she realizes what Leonard is or has done, but we see a sweet moment of her gratitude after getting back to the apartments.

 

 

I would really feel disappointed if we didn't get to see her face, when she finds out what he is doing.

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would really feel disappointed if we didn't get to see her face, when she finds out what he is doing.

 

I'm not holding my breath waiting to see Penny's face and her reaction.  Most things dealing with Leonard and Penny happens off screen so I kind of expect this to be the same.  Do hope the writers would prove me wrong, though.

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I think Penny has made up her mind about the deal with her and Leonard. My experience is that women are usually much further along than the guy is. She just hasn't articulated it, but I'll bet if pressed, she already knows what the kids' names will be. I believe that she seems the way she is with Leonard because he's really the only one she can trust to put up with her crap. She's trying to be tough and independent, but some aspect of that is that some part of her really just wants to let Leonard look after her. Which he would gladly do.

Leonard buying the car might break the current relationship logjam. I mentioned up thread that I think that him buying the car, and her accepting it is tantamount to a proposal. Not that Leonard would treat it as such, but it is a big enough financial commitment that it could only happen if they were permanently committed.

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Leonard buying a car.  I agree I would love to see her face when he does it.  I also agree that it is a pretty big step, far beyond just paying her rent or electric bill.  In real life imo they would already be engaged if not married.  However, the show is just trying to drag it out for as long as possible.  Last year it seemed to be getting to a point where logically it seemed like it was getting close to moving them to an engaged status. 

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So would I. I really want to see her reaction.

I want to see all of her reaction too. I want to see her go from thinking that they are going to the CCF, to her not knowing what is going on, all the way to having Leonard hand her the keys and title in her name. I want to enjoy this, after all the snark and conflict. Loving detail, please.

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Of course, I also wouldn't mind a next day scene such that we might have seen in early Season 3, where Penny has shown her very great appreciation for Leonard by destroying another bed. A worn out Leonard the next day mumbling about he should have bought her a car sooner would also be funny. There hasn't been enough implied physical affection between them in L/P 2.5. They don't have to show them in bed, but some playfulness would be excellent.

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Of course, I also wouldn't mind a next day scene such that we might have seen in early Season 3, where Penny has shown her very great appreciation for Leonard by destroying another bed. A worn out Leonard the next day mumbling about he should have bought her a car sooner would also be funny. There hasn't been enough implied physical affection between them in L/P 2her level of commitment 5. They don't have to show them in bed, but some playfulness would be excellent.

You're right, the physical affection kissing etc has been less than what a committed couple would display. The car is a definite show of commitment on L's part. It would be interesting to see if P's reaction shows her level of commitment or will the writers leave that for another day. They are desparately dragging the whole relationship thing out on the assumption that they have 3 more seadons to fill.

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You're right, the physical affection kissing etc has been less than what a committed couple would display. The car is a definite show of commitment on L's part. It would be interesting to see if P's reaction shows her level of commitment or will the writers leave that for another day. They are desparately dragging the whole relationship thing out on the assumption that they have 3 more seadons to fill.

I think three more seasons is guaranteed. L/P has been a couple a long time now. I'm not sure what kind of physical affection your expecting but it's got to be better than that Shamy kiss from the last episode.

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I know L and Penny are in a committed relationship and I love seeing deep, emitional relationship moments (like getting the car and the ILY), but I'd still like some aspects of s3 Lenny when they couldn't keep their hands off each other.

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