Spoilers S7 Spoilers

[JenniferTBBTFAN]

I went to last night's episode. New to this forum, but here are a few highlights.

 

The entire process was great. I was lucky enough to have non-standby tickets. The wait was in level 1 of the parking garage, which I think is a change from what I read online?. There were lots of benches for people to sit down and wait. Arrived around 3:45 and it looked like there was already over 100 standby. They announced numbers 1-19 in standby may make it in. Not sure how many actually got in because we were seated by then. We were seated third row right by the center aisle behind VIP. A couple of regulars told us those were great seats...and I have to agree.

 

Leonard is still at the North Sea and Penny and Sheldon are missing him during this episode. Amy and Bernadette are away at a conference and enjoy being hit on by men in a bar. Rajesh spends the episode missing his girlfriend and Howard tries to help him out.

 

Any questions, let me know. Looking forward to spending some time on this board!

[phantagrae]

It always amazes me when people start talking about how poor Leonard is bullied by the EVIL SHELDON and is his whipping boy and all that.  Leonard isn't legally bound to remain Sheldon's roommate, apart from whatever might actually be on their lease with their landlord.

Whatever Leonard might have agreed to in the Roommate Agreement isn't exactly legally binding, no matter what Sheldon likes to think.

 

I think what people miss is Leonard's inherent humanity toward all of his friends.  And he does consider Sheldon a friend.

I think that we see in the flashback episode that while Leonard initially thought of Sheldon as an opinionated, know-it-all weirdo, he didn't hate him.  He willingly jumped through all of Sheldon's hoops, at first to get into the apartment, and then later because it was probably easier to agree to it than to fight over it.

Yes, Sheldon is something of a spoiled child, but underneath it all, he really does care about Leonard as well, and is desperate to keep him as a friend.  It's just that his pride will not allow him to admit to such things openly.

 

But I think that Leonard has found things in Sheldon's personality that he likes as well.  They have interests in common, both in entertainment and in their work, even if they're not walking in lock-step about everything, but that's true of all friendships.

I think that Leonard understands that Sheldon needs him, both emotionally and psychologically, as well as for things like rides to work, etc.  If it weren't for Leonard's friendship, who knows how badly off Sheldon would be emotionally.  I think Leonard somehow knows that and feels for him as a person.  In the same way, Leonard understands Howard and Raj, and even Penny.  While he may not get it right all the time, his heart is always in the right place, and that's why he cuts Sheldon a lot of slack.

 

For the other characters, in regard to Sheldon, it's some variation on this same idea.  Penny is like a big sister/den mother to all of the guys, including Leonard to some degree, although her relationship with him is, of course, different, but this is more true with Sheldon, because, again, he needs it most.

 

That's why Sheldon is never going to be truly put in his place.  They all have their place in the group dynamic, and that's not really going to change while the show is on the air.  Each of them gets their personal ego balloon burst at some point, whenever they have some ego-inflating experience--Raj with his magazine cover, Sheldon with his premature excitement of the polar expedition, Howard with his experiences with the other astronauts, and Leonard with his various dating experiences, and probably to some degree, this North Sea expedition.  I'm sure he's not going to come home completely triumphant, or not in a way that's going to give him any kind of permanent upper hand.

Though Sheldon is, as Jim Parsons put it, sharp-edged, and will always have a sense of superiority, nobody in the group really has the upper hand over anyone else.  One person may temporarily rise above the others, but every success is tinged with at least a little chagrin, usually due to the person's own self-importance.

 

But in the end, they all care for each other and take care of each other.

 

Leslie Winkle won't be coming back.  Her behavior ended up being kind of one-note--insult Sheldon by calling him a dumb-ass, flirt with or reject Leonard, as needed, sleep with Howard, or reject him, as needed.  Though she was smart, she was kind of less personally ethical than the others.  She didn't get involved with Leonard or Howard because she actually loved either of them.  They were convenient for the moment, and inconvenient the next.  She didn't belong as a member of the "gang" anymore than Kripke does.  But as a colleague at work, again, there was just the "dumb-ass" comments.

 

I think we'll continue to see interesting guest stars, but the dynamics of the gang won't really change other than the slow progression of the relationships, and apparently more interactions among different combinations of the characters.

[stardustmelody]

Script cover for 7.02

 

[bigbangsheldon]

@billprady4m

Answer to today's odd FAQ: There are 38-45 pages in a Big Bang Theory script.

 

 

okay, who was asking bill this q so we could know where the scenes are in the sides

[Taperoo]

Leslie was so great. It would be cool if she went out with Raj, she would be the male side and Raj would be the female. She could come to takeout night and flirt with Leonard and piss Penny off, then make Sheldon feel like a dumbass and piss Amy off. They could have her mention having sex with Howard and piss Bernadette off, too. It would be so funny.

 

Well she'd certainly shake things up a bit and you don't need to do any set up work for the character. Plus she does not have to be in every episode.

 

Kind of think Leslie has run her course. Her primary purpose was a temporary distraction for Leonard when he was not dating "blondie". Even that ran it's course very quickly. The part was played well but I can't see it being helpful to the series at this point. What would be the point of pairing her with Raj just so she could turn around an dump him? I don't think I'd find it funny if she were to flirt with Leonard at this point.  That would just be sad.

 

I think there's a bit of life left in Leslie should the writers need her to shake a few things up. I hope she appears before the show finishes (be it 10 or 11 seasons).

 

Leonard getting tenure makes sense in a lot of ways, given how they have built his Science credibility (Hawking taking Howard's recommendation for the boat expedition). Sheldon is unlikely to get it, because he's skating on thin ice with the powers that be as it is at the university. The only way Sheldon would get tenure is if he came up with a revolutionary theory (grabbing all the headlines etc), which Leonard then has to prove or disprove through his experiments. Which as some have mooted would lead to Sheldon having to share a nobel prize.

You would get more comedy out of Sheldon if somebody he sees as beneath his intellect gets tenure. Just imagine if Howard got it. Sheldon did not handle Howard going into space at

all well. Leonard can outsmart Sheldon when he really wants to. I tend to think he lets Sheldon have his tantrums etc for a quiet life. Or as quiet as can be when Sheldon

is around.

[phantagrae]

Script cover for 7.02

 

 

Thanks for the pic!

[Carlos]

It seems amazing how we all watch the same show and think so differently. I for one actually like Lucy and the actrss porttraying her, but don't like her being paired with Raj, so therefore there should be no reason for her to appear on the show I mean if they don't pair her with Raj). In the case of the girl from the gym, I despise her so much it's hard for me to even watch the episode she's in . While I agree that it would be a bad idea to pair Leslie Winkle with Raj, I disagree as to the reasons for it as discussed above.

[arash]

Wait! galacki has said it goes for 14 seasons?seems sooooooo unlikely.

will be shown who had won tenure or just you guys are talking about that?

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[Tensor]

Galecki said it doesn't feel like they've done half the stories they could.  The reporters turned that into 14 years, since this is the seventh year.  Just talking about tenure.

[I.Am.Molly]

It always amazes me when people start talking about how poor Leonard is bullied by the EVIL SHELDON and is his whipping boy and all that.  Leonard isn't legally bound to remain Sheldon's roommate, apart from whatever might actually be on their lease with their landlord.

Whatever Leonard might have agreed to in the Roommate Agreement isn't exactly legally binding, no matter what Sheldon likes to think.

 

I think what people miss is Leonard's inherent humanity toward all of his friends.  And he does consider Sheldon a friend.

I think that we see in the flashback episode that while Leonard initially thought of Sheldon as an opinionated, know-it-all weirdo, he didn't hate him.  He willingly jumped through all of Sheldon's hoops, at first to get into the apartment, and then later because it was probably easier to agree to it than to fight over it.

Yes, Sheldon is something of a spoiled child, but underneath it all, he really does care about Leonard as well, and is desperate to keep him as a friend.  It's just that his pride will not allow him to admit to such things openly.

 

But I think that Leonard has found things in Sheldon's personality that he likes as well.  They have interests in common, both in entertainment and in their work, even if they're not walking in lock-step about everything, but that's true of all friendships.

I think that Leonard understands that Sheldon needs him, both emotionally and psychologically, as well as for things like rides to work, etc.  If it weren't for Leonard's friendship, who knows how badly off Sheldon would be emotionally.  I think Leonard somehow knows that and feels for him as a person.  In the same way, Leonard understands Howard and Raj, and even Penny.  While he may not get it right all the time, his heart is always in the right place, and that's why he cuts Sheldon a lot of slack.

 

 

Yes! This! This is what i was trying to say, but you have just said it so much better! Thank you!

[hamerman55]

Following up on phantagrae's comments, with which I agree, Leonard is very humane. Part of the reason why is that he has what he really needs. The woman he loves, a job he is good at, and likes, and good friends. He's always had that, so I'm a little better with some of his other trials. In the end, he's solid where it matters, and that may be why he functions well as the center of the show. All of the other characters, guys in particular, have some unmet need, it seems. Leonard can not only look after himself, but he can look after other people too. Everytime someone has a problem, he is the one that gets the call.

My main problem with Lucy is fairly early on, I could predict her dialog and responses. Basically, Raj suggests something, she says it is scary and doesn't want to try it. I would have liked the character more if she was invested enough in Raj to try a little harder that she did. She was too quick to run. Dumping him via text was bad too.

[bigbangsheldon]

I went to last night's episode. New to this forum, but here are a few highlights.

 

The entire process was great. I was lucky enough to have non-standby tickets. The wait was in level 1 of the parking garage, which I think is a change from what I read online?. There were lots of benches for people to sit down and wait. Arrived around 3:45 and it looked like there was already over 100 standby. They announced numbers 1-19 in standby may make it in. Not sure how many actually got in because we were seated by then. We were seated third row right by the center aisle behind VIP. A couple of regulars told us those were great seats...and I have to agree.

 

Leonard is still at the North Sea and Penny and Sheldon are missing him during this episode. Amy and Bernadette are away at a conference and enjoy being hit on by men in a bar. Rajesh spends the episode missing his girlfriend and Howard tries to help him out.

 

Any questions, let me know. Looking forward to spending some time on this board!

welcome to the board!!!     

 

just tell us as much as you can bc we have no limits. from the first scene to the last 

Edited August 21, 2013 by bigbangsheldon

[rachelshamyfan]

Ditto!

[eirwinrommel]

Script cover for 7.02

 

Any significance to the challenge coin? or just changing it up from using a pen?

Edited August 21, 2013 by eirwinrommel

[JenniferTBBTFAN]

Ok. I will try and post whatever I can remember!

 

First Scene: Sheldon calls Leonard who is in the North Sea in a rough storm. Sheldon explains an emergency, which turns out to be two Back to the Future DVDs in the wrong cases. At some point during the phone call, Sheldon hears a funny noise and asks if a Kraken had been released. Soon, Leonard is grabbed by a huge sea monster and Sheldon wakes up screaming!

 

This leads to Sheldon running to Penny's door in his pajama's, waking her up. He asks if he can spend the night in her apartment. She says yes, and then he passes by her and goes to her room to sleep. A frustrated Penny walks to the couch.

 

Next:

 

Raj, Sheldon and Howard are in the Cafeteria and Raj is heartbroken about losing Lucy. He compares her to eveything including grease stains and his chicken pot pie. Howard get frustrated and rips apart his pot pie with his fork (hilarious moment for audience). He suggests that Raj come with him to a work social that evening to meet some ladies.

 

In the next scene:

 

Amy and Bernadette are away at a conference. They are saying goodnight to Howard and Sheldon. Bernadette is talking about loving Howie and missing him. Cut to Amy who is convincing Sheldon she won't bring home bed bugs.

 

After that things get a little foggy as far as order because they follow the three pairs of characters in several scenes. I will describe what happened to each pair.

 

The next evening Penny and Sheldon are hanging out at Sheldon's apartment. Sheldon is setting up 3D chess and Penny is reading a magazine. Eventually, Penny begins to play 3D chess with Sheldon. Penny mentions how much she misses Leonard and she decides to give him a call. When Leonard picks up, he is having a BLAST and doesn't make much time to talk. This upsets Penny because she misses him so much, and he doesn't seem to care. Sheldon makes her a hot beverage "to go". Penny insists that they "talk", which turns into Penny and Sheldon each revealing a big secret. Penny admitted that she had done a topless SCENE in a movie, but thankfully it was never released. Sheldon tells her he has seen the movie, Leonard found it on the internet when she moved in! Then Sheldon shares his secret. He doesn't like Youtube's new rating system. Penny basically blows him off and starts to leave (she didn't consider that a real secret). Sheldon tells her that she hurt his feelings (he felt it was a secret and she didn't care). She apologizes and they hug. (this was shot over 3-4 scenes).

 

Meanwhile...Raj and Howard attend the work social. Raj talks with another scientist who is lifeless. He leaves her and heads over to Howard by the food table. Mrs. Davis walks in and Howard explains to Raj how her husband left her. When Mrs. Davis approaches the food, Raj insults her and makes a great comment that had the audience laughing comparing her to a penguin. Mrs. Davis walks away in disgust. Later, Raj heads over to the table she is sitting at and apologizes for his comments. They banter back and forth and he compares her marriage to his four dates with Lucy. As Mrs. Davis is leaving, Raj says some kind words to her and Mrs. David leaves. When Howard asks how it went, Raj says they had a "moment". Howard tells him that he "didn't have a moment" and they banter back and forth about that for a bit. (3 scenes total I believe)

 

Amy and Bernadette go to the Hotel bar for drinks. Drinks are sent over to them by some guys at the bar. Amy is super excited and is delighted that they are getting hit on without Penny! Bernadette goes over and thanks the guys for the drinks and explains to them that they are both taken. Bernadette then makes a comment to Amy saying that no one would blame her if she decided to take it further with one of the guys. When Amy asks Bernadette what she means, she explains that her boyfriend is extremely "Sheldon." Amy is offended and insults Howard. They are still frustrated with each other when the scene ends. Later, they are in the hotel room getting ready for bed. They are not talking at first, but finally start disucssing how nice it was to be hit on. They asked each other which guy they liked better. Amy described the short one with the weird haircut and Bernadette describes that tall one who looked like he wasn't very experienced. After some talking they realize they were decribing each other's men and turn off the lights quickly and say goodnight! (3 scenes total)

 

The final scene is of Penny in the shower, a portion of her movie. Then, we see that Leonard is watching it on the North Sea with everyone there and telling them that she is his girlfriend.

 

Great experience and I feel so lucky that I was able to attend a live taping.

Edited August 24, 2013 by JenniferTBBTFAN

[Tensor]

Jennifer, for your first time, you did extremely well explaining it.  Welcome to the board.

 

[Tensor]

... What the frack?!

This episode is like...

Shenny, raj/Lucy, Amy/Howard, Bernadette/Sheldon..... What the hell happened?!?!

And Leonard partying his little tushie off.

[ArmyGirl]

Thannks Jennifer for the information on the premiere.

[menamena]

 

The next evening Penny and Sheldon are hanging out at Sheldon's apartment. Sheldon is setting up 3D chess and Penny is reading a magazine. Eventually, Penny begins to play 3D chess with Sheldon. Penny mentions how much she misses Leonard and she decide to give him a call. When Leonard picks up, he is having a BLAST and doesn't make much time to talk. This upsets Penny because she misses him so much, and he doesn't seem to care. Sheldon makes her a hot beverage "to go". Penny insists that they "talk", which turns into Penny and Sheldon each revealing a big secret. Penny admitted that she had done a topless movie, but thankfully it was never released. Sheldon tells her he has seen the movie, Leonard found it on the internet when she moved in! Then Sheldon shares his secret. He doesn't like Youtube's new rating system. Penny basically blows him off and starts to leave. Sheldon tells her that she hurt his feelings. She apologizes and they hug. (this was shot over 3-4 scenes).

 

 

Thanks for the report!!! Who initiated the hug between S/P??? And did Leonard ask Penny before sharing her topless video with everyone else? Bcoz as a girl, that's not funny.

[ArmyGirl]

And Leonard partying his little tushie off.

 

 

I'm glad Leonard is having some fun.  Something he doesn't get to do when he's back in California.

 

This season I wouldn't mind Leonard hitting some clubs and having some all out fun --- would make for some good laughs.

[stardustmelody]

I agree Pearl.  I told you all that Sheldon and Penny would hug and you all said...no, no they won't.  I called it and I was right!   UGH!   And then the Bernie/Amy scene and the describing each other's men?  What the heck?   I am not liking this at all!   This is really annoying and outrageous.   What about show history and respect for characters.   UGH!  No respect at all in this episode with the show's history.  

[menamena]

^Yeah, the shenny hug annoys me and Leonard sharing Penny's topless video bothers me a lot. That's not right. at. all.

[stardustmelody]

^Yeah, the shenny hug annoys me and Leonard sharing Penny's topless video bothers me a lot. That's not right. at. all.

No kidding about the topless sharing.  That was horrible.   I really hate this episode so far.   Did they all go do heroine or something before writing this episode?  It is awful (unless we find out it was all a bad dream).   If this is showing us direction for this season, I will be totally gone.   That is awful!

[SRAM]

^Yeah, the shenny hug annoys me and Leonard sharing Penny's topless video bothers me a lot. That's not right. at. all.

 

 

Yeah, Leonard showing people Penny topless bothers me too.  That is really OC for him, I think the writers really screwed that one up.  Maybe after they see what they done, they will cut that part.  They have a month to edit.

Edited August 21, 2013 by SRAM

[ArmyGirl]

Yeah, Leonard showing people Penny topless bothers me too.  That is really OC for him, I think the writers really screwed that one up.

 

Of course it's OOC for Leonard but the writers had to give the anti-Leonard something to hate him for. 

 

 

 

eta: Notice they made sure to give the Shenny some crumbles too.

Edited August 21, 2013 by ArmyGirl