Spoilers S7 Spoilers

[Nogravitasatall]

Rachel, should someone have told Howard when Penny recommended Bernadette continue looking, even though she was engaged? Or, should the girls have told Sheldon when Amy suggested they all find random guys to pickup and take to the bathrooms for sex? The girls are out alone, they're saying things they probably will never talk about again.

This goes to telling the story and creating the drama and situations. No one is snitching, telling tales, being underhanded or dobbing anyone in. Its all about the set up for the gag.

[Chiara]

It occurs to me that Bernadette thinks the shamy is a joke (ala) love spell if she is trying to encourage Amy to go off with some random bloke, Sheldon should be informed

For comedy purposes, it might be interesting. If there is one thing more painful to Sheldon than being pursued, it is being ignored and dismissed as second best. A little drop of jealousy might bring forth interesting results. 

 

In the overall context of the episode however, I believe we should be more relaxed. Let's face it, Howard and Sheldon are not easy to live with : one alternates between treating his wife like his mother and like his fling and the other has yet to open up to his girlfriend in a "normal" way. The girls are frustrated and lashing out. They wish things were different : Bernadette would like Howard to be a teeny bit more like Sheldon (not so clingy and sugar sweet) and Amy would like a zest of Howard in her Sheldon (especially the stripper pole thing, I would imagine). 

 

I do not believe Bernadette thinks Shamy is a joke per se. I assume she just does not understand how Amy can go on with it with so little feedback from Sheldon. In fairness, it is a justified interrogation. Most women would have given up on Shelly by now. Amy, as we know, has nerves of steel but it is a lot to take for one romantic biologist. Bernadette is allowed to let Amy know she has other options and Amy should be aware of them, just for the sake of her self-esteem. 

Edited August 22, 2013 by Chiara

[rachelshamyfan]

I believe that what is meant by 'Sheldon should be informed' is that he should be informed that Amy has other choices. And that if he (Sheldon) doesn't do something to show Amy some attention (and by attention I mean physical attention, even if it's only holding her hand (without being forced to) and kissing her on the cheek.) and generally treating her better, that Amy will start looking for someone who will. My impression is that Amy has fallen into the 'friend zone' and Sheldon treats her like one of the guys. If this were Buffy, Amy would be Sheldon's 'Amy shaped friend'.

I meant Amy should tell Sheldon what Bernadette tried to do

For comedy purposes, it might be interesting. If there is one thing more painful to Sheldon than being pursued, it is being ignored and dismissed as second best. A little drop of jealousy might bring forth interesting results.

In the overall context of the episode however, I believe we should be more relaxed. Let's face it, Howard and Sheldon are not easy to live with : one alternates between treating his wife like his mother and like his fling and the other has yet to open up to his girlfriend in a "normal" way. The girls are frustrated and lashing out. They wish things were different : Bernadette would like Howard to be a teeny bit more like Sheldon (not so clingy and sugar sweet) and Amy would like a zest of Howard in her Sheldon (especially the stripper pole thing, I would imagine).

I do not believe Bernadette thinks Shamy is a joke per se. I assume she just does not understand how Amy can go on with it with so little feedback from Sheldon. In fairness, it is a justified interrogation. Most women would have given up on Shelly by now. Amy, as we know, has nerves of steel but it is a lot to take for one romantic biologist. Bernadette is allowed to let Amy know she has other options and Amy should be aware of them, just for the sake of her self-esteem.

I'm guessing Amy didnt tell the girls what was said in the bedroom and rightly so!

Rachel, should someone have told Howard when Penny recommended Bernadette continue looking, even though she was engaged? Or, should the girls have told Sheldon when Amy suggested they all find random guys to pickup and take to the bathrooms for sex? The girls are out alone, they're saying things they probably will never talk about again.

Penny was out of order in that episode telling both there is other options

I don't remember about Amy saying about going to bathrooms for sex? You may have to remind me!

Edited August 22, 2013 by rachelshamyfan

[Nogravitasatall]

Six way with the Blue Man group, in Vegas, before she broke the nose of the handsy TSA agent. Something happened after that that may have distracted you. Hehheh ... Dice or something.

Edited August 22, 2013 by Nogravitasatall

[jennyferbrelaz]

I read the report for the second time - thank you, Jennifer for posting it here - and I realized it's not something to worry too much. We had already received many spoilers of this episode, some of us have imagined that these things could happening. I have thought, for example, Penny and Sheldon's hug, I confess I didn't think it would be that way, after he said she hurt their feelings. Why the hell did he say that? He is not hippie. But it's normal they spend more time together, as they do usually only three of them (P, L and S) when Leonard is there. They are neighbors and friends. This is not bad or surprising, even though I'm not a Shenny fan, anyway.

As for Raj, I must say that I hope he gets happier in the course of the season, I felt very sorry for him at the end of six season, it's very difficult to be the only one without a girlfriend, anyway, better days will come - I hope so.

I liked the scenes with Amy and Bernadette. I think Bernadette only said that because she isn't aware of the complexity of the Amy and Sheldon's relationship. Nobody is really. I liked the fact that Amy had refused Bernie's advice and other scenes also seem to be fun.

And finally, Leonard and the video. I don't think he has done something really bad or that Penny has the right to be upset with him know that. She made the film first because she wanted it, and it was already on the Internet. Of course people would see. And I don't know how the video was introduced , but if he and the guys were already watching, Leonard is normal to speak with pride that girl of nice breasts is his girlfriend. It's like if even he couldn't believe. He doesn't become a fool for it. I believe that this ending was pretty funny. Just wait to see how things will stay until the episode is released. Then each can have its point of view on something concrete and not in a report made by the eyes of others.

And sorry my bad English. I don't speak English.

[koops]

Right, now that I've slept on it, I'm going to give my longer analysis of the situation.

 

Upon receiving further info, I do not believe this premiere is as bad as it sounded at first. But I also do think there are some issues with it.

 

Re: Sheldon sleeping over at Penny's and hanging out with her. I think it's important to note that, while it was an obvious plot device, the writers had him do all of that while Amy is out of town. I agree with Chiara that this might be the very first time in an awful long time Sheldon has been completely alone. I think his going to sleep over at Penny's was more to underline how distressed he was over the Leonard nightmare than anything else. In fact, he just storms into her room and shuts the door. Hardly like he asked to cuddle. And it is the typical kind of mother-child behavior they love to play with. I was actually not expecting them to imply communication between him and Amy at all in this episode, but to ignore it altogether. That goodnight phone call gave me so many fuzzy feels you have no idea. The fact that he worries about her catching bed bugs to the point that he asks whether she'd consider sleeping in a garment bag is so Shamyromantic I could just die. Like I said, never thought bed bugs would give me feels.

 

Re: Leonard. I do think Leonard comes across pretty bad in this episode. I understand making the point that he isn't moping on the boat and I understand making the point that Penny is missing him for a change, after being so dismissive of him for a long time, but I thought it would have been nice to show at least an inkling of him missing her, I think. I also think that the whole showing the topless scene to his mates while it's obvious Penny does not want anyone to know, is not cool. We do know he showed that particular scene because it cuts from showing the scene of Penny in the shower to Leonard showing it to people and going "That's my girlfriend!"

 

Re: A/B. I said what I needed to say about that scene. I thought that Bernadette came across truly awful at first, but I am glad to hear that she regretted what she said almost instantly. And it's fantastic to see Amy stand up for herself and her boyfriend like that. Like I said, I was actually worried this scene would be the lead-in for a possible breakup, with Amy showing hints that she does want intimacy more than she wants Sheldon and being charmed/flirting with other guys. But if the writers are making a deliberate point that it's the complete opposite and that she's actually quite defensive about it all, it can only be good for her character, since so many think she just wants a boyfriend/sex, rather than wanting Sheldon.

 

Re: Raj. I'm glad they showed him miss Lucy because I do think he got over her way too quickly in the finale. Other than that though, I don't find his story all that compelling.

 

And now to the big one. The S/P hug. I think I'm going to refrain on having an opinion on it until we are well into the season and I can see what they're going to do with Shamy. Nobody is worried about romantic Shenny at all (and, if you are, then you are a bit delusional, IMO) and there's nothing wrong with two friends hugging, especially since it's clear Sheldon did not want to at first. However, I do strongly agree that it is terrible to show him be fine with hugging other people (and I made this comment last season when he hugged Professor Proton) when his poor, patient girlfriend is so affection-starved, committed and faithful. And, on top of that, the show makes the point that the only reason he isn't affectionate with her is because he "is uncomfortable with the sort o physical contact that comes easily to others". Now, we know he's been working on it, and this might be one example that he has been getting better. But then I'd better not see him ever shoot Amy down again this season over hand-holding or hugging. Otherwise you have a glaring character inconsistency. Because as much as we can all speculate that it's because with Amy it's different from Penny, there has never been any indication on the show that Sheldon is in any sort of internal turmoil over the feelings touching Amy elicits in him. Ever. So the writers need to either be consistent from here on, and let him be a bit more physical with Amy, or make that point loud and clear that he has sexual feelings for her that he is still learning to handle. Otherwise it is just a terrible unbalance in the relationship and in Sheldon as a character and I would start questioning his feelings for her.

 

The other thing I found odd about the hug is that Jennifer said they did 3 takes because they explicitly asked the audience not to "awww" or make any noise. Now, if the point of the hug is to show a poignant moment over them missing Leonard, and that's why they want the audience to keep quiet, fine. I gather that Sheldon might be fairly rattled over missing Leonard, although in denial, so it would be nice to show that. If the point of the hug is to show some sort of Sheldon milestone in being affectionate, then I think it's pretty terrible in relation to Shamy. Especially considering that Shamy had a couple of very poignant and intimate scenes last season when they let the audience just laugh over when I thought it was very out of place (e.g. when he tells her about the EC on V-day or at the very beginning of their D&D roleplay). Maybe Jennifer can clarify when she is next online. 

 

All in all, I think it's a rather odd season opener. But, like we said earlier, this show has a tendency to go for pretty weird and mean season openers only to then fix it all up as the season progresses. So we'll see how things evolve from here on to November sweeps.

[Chiara]

I'm guessing Amy didnt tell the girls what was said in the bedroom and rightly so!

The bedroom scene was definitely a breakthrough and if Sheldon proves he is willing to keep on trying, then everything is great. 

 

However one has to consider viewpoints. Bernadette's "allegiance", if I can phrase it like that, lies first with Amy, not Sheldon or the Shamy as an entity. While Bernie likes Cooper and is a good friend to him, they are not particularly close. Conversely, Amy is one of her dearest friends : it makes perfect sense to me that she would give priority to her pal's happiness and, if she sincerely feels Amy is not as happy as she could be because of Sheldon, she has every right to mention it to her. 

The same logic applies to Penny and her advise to Bernadette : Penny, for quite some time, was not particularly fond of Howard (for good reasons, I believe). However, she likes Bernadette very much. So she told her friend to do what was best for her. Not Howard or their pairing. 

 

I don't remember about Amy saying about going to bathrooms for sex? You may have to remind me!

"So, what’s the plan? Are we gonna teach our fellas a lesson by getting stinking drunk, luring strange men into the bathroom, and turning the toilet stall into a temple of the senses?" - Amy, The Santa Simulation. 

Edited August 22, 2013 by Chiara

[3ku11]

^Lol dont take Penny seriousley, she can be pretty snarky I think she was being sarcastic. I mean Pennys known Howard longer at that point, and that was up to that moment in S5 where Howard did that speech to Bernadette in front of Penny, that was the first moment the characters started to mature. But up to then Howard was still her sleazy, kinda creepy at times friend who flirts with het haha. And I dont think she was being specefic she was generalizing, Leonard said it best when he said most of the time Pennys breezy but then she can turn into the hulk haha. I think that was funny anyway.

[koops]

The bedroom scene was definitely a breakthrough and if Sheldon proves he is willing to keep on trying, then everything is great. 

 

However one has to consider viewpoints. Bernadette's "allegiance", if I can phrase it like that, lies first with Amy, not Sheldon or the Shamy as an entity. While Bernie likes Cooper and is a good friend to him, they are not particularly close. Conversely, Amy is one of her dearest friends : it makes perfect sense to me that she would give priority to her pal's happiness and, if she sincerely feels Amy is not as happy as she could be because of Sheldon, she has every right to mention it to her. 

The same logic applies to Penny and her advise to Bernadette : Penny, for quite some time, was not particularly fond of Howard (for good reasons, I believe). However, she liked Bernadette very much. So she told her friend to do what was best for her. Not Howard or their pairing. 

 

"So, what’s the plan? Are we gonna teach our fellas a lesson by getting stinking drunk, luring strange men into the bathroom, and turning the toilet stall into a temple of the senses?" - Amy, The Santa Simulation. 

 

Worst Amy line they ever gave her. That's the main reason I absolutely loath that episode. 

[Chiara]

Worst Amy line they ever gave her. That's the main reason I absolutely loath that episode. 

Really ? I loved that line ! And its follow up "Who's forever 63 now ?"

 

I genuinely appreciate that Amy is such a foxy lady : in spite of her conservative appearance, she is wild, completely open-minded, funky and willing to experiment. For too long, she was left on the shelf because of her quirkiness but now that she has the girl possee she always dreamt of, she cannot wait to go crazy, springbreak style ! That, to me, is one of her most attractive traits.

 

She is oddly brave, eager, sexual and confident (at least when her friends are with her). It is because of all of these things, in my opinion, that she is able to withstand the difficulties a relationship with Sheldon entails. She is a huntress waiting for her prey. Quite a rare occurence on television and a nice tour de force on Ms. Bialik's part who manages not to make it look or sound creepy !

[3ku11]

Really ? I loved that line ! And its follow up "Who's forever 63 now ?"

 

I genuinely appreciate that Amy is such a foxy lady : in spite of her conservative appearance, she is wild, completely open-minded, funky and willing to experiment. For too long, she was left on the shelf because of her quirkiness but now that she has the girl possee she always dreamt of, she cannot wait to go crazy, springbreak style ! That, to me, is one of her most attractive traits.

 

She is oddly brave, eager, sexual and confident (at least when her friends are with her). It is because of all of these things, in my opinion, that she is able to withstand the difficulties a relationship with Sheldon entails. She is a huntress waiting for her prey. Quite a rare occurence on television and a nice tour de force on Ms. Bialik's part who manages not to make it look or sound creepy !

Amy's quirky and I agree that line was awesome haha. 

[rachelshamyfan]

Six way with the Blue Man group, in Vegas, before she broke the nose of the handsy TSA agent. Something happened after that that may have distracted you. Hehheh ... Dice or something.

Oh yes but that was Amy clarifying the no rules thing and I'm still not happy about Bernadette encouraging her, that's not what a friend should be doing!

Already am not liking this episode too many strange things happening but I guess the actual showing might be different so I shall hold back a little

[dana1010]

Okay first off let me say that I never go on these things because I don't like to be spoiled but since I was at the premire taping I thought I would read what people were saying about it. I really liked the premire and only wish there could have been scenes with all of them together. I'm a huge Shamy fan and I must say nobody should be that worried about the Sheldon/Penny hug. Sheldon offered to shake her hand and she hugged him. It's funny to because he takes his hand and pats her on the back much like he did when Amy hugged him after the tiara except with Amy he used both hands and for Penny he used one.

 

Also even though there was no Shamy scenes together, I did enjoy Amy's phone conversation with him at the hotel. There's a moment where Bernie is saying "I love you" to Howard over the phone and then it spans over to Amy who looks like she wishes she could say that to Sheldon or he would say that to her, which ends with a joke about her spleeping in her garment bag.

 

So I have a crazy theory about this. I think they are setting up so that by the end of this season the Shamy will say "I love you" to one another because if you remember in last season's premire Amy asks Sheldon to say something "meaningful and from the heart" and in the Love Spell he does finally when he says "for me what we have is extremely intimate".

 

I don't really have an opinon on the whole Lenny situation because personally it doesn't matter to me whether or not they are together.

[eirwinrommel]

I meant Amy should tell Sheldon what Bernadette tried to do

I'm guessing Amy didnt tell the girls what was said in the bedroom and rightly so!

Penny was out of order in that episode telling both there is other options

I don't remember about Amy saying about going to bathrooms for sex? You may have to remind me!

Well in that case I stand corrected. But I also stand by my opinion that Sheldon needs to show Sheldon some affection or she's should get out of there.

Edited August 22, 2013 by eirwinrommel

[koops]

Really ? I loved that line ! And its follow up "Who's forever 63 now ?"

 

I genuinely appreciate that Amy is such a foxy lady : in spite of her conservative appearance, she is wild, completely open-minded, funky and willing to experiment. For too long, she was left on the shelf because of her quirkiness but now that she has the girl possee she always dreamt of, she cannot wait to go crazy, springbreak style ! That, to me, is one of her most attractive traits.

 

She is oddly brave, eager, sexual and confident (at least when her friends are with her). It is because of all of these things, in my opinion, that she is able to withstand the difficulties a relationship with Sheldon entails. She is a huntress waiting for her prey. Quite a rare occurence on television and a nice tour de force on Ms. Bialik's part who manages not to make it look or sound creepy !

 

That's the thing. I do not think Amy is brave, eager and sexual underneath it all. I think she's very much talk.  She's a virgin too. Mayim made that point in her recent GD interview, that the D&D sex was a very interesting scene to shoot because it shows how even though Amy talks and talks and comes across as sexually aggressive, she gets really nervous and floored when faced with actual intimacy. In fact, I really liked how they portrayed her in Love Spell, that was the perfect Amy. She was the one who set rules over Vegas and yet was so excited about it in her dorky way, she hit that TSA agent for touching her, she was nerdy and wild and sensitive at the same time. I always took her sexual comments as nothing to do with her wanting sex per se (although obviously she does want Sheldon bad), as to the fact that she has no filter and has no idea what's appropriate and when. The hilarious thing about Amy as a character is that they give her these sexual connotations when she is anything but: she has no experience, flips at people touching her, and is not what one would normally consider the embodiment of a "vixen", yet that's the nickname they keep using for her. I love that nickname because of the irony in it, whoever came up with it needs all of the award.

 

If she were really so sexual and eager, she would not be waiting on Sheldon and make the point, again and again, that it's only him that she wants. I think the reason she can put up with Sheldon is because of what was established since day 1: they are so alike they get each other. Although I do admit that Molaro's take on Amy is a bit too "normalizing" and I often worry that they might lose the plot that the reason why Shamy were matched up in the first place is because of their similarities, rather than because Amy can put up with his quirks through patience. Prady had a MUCH better grasp on that, IMO.

[3ku11]

That's the thing. I do not think Amy is brave, eager and sexual underneath it all. I think she's very much talk.  She's a virgin too. Mayim made that point in her recent GD interview, that the D&D sex was a very interesting scene to shoot because it shows how even though Amy talks and talks and comes across as sexually aggressive, she gets really nervous and floored when faced with actual intimacy. In fact, I really liked how they portrayed her in Love Spell, that was the perfect Amy. She was the one who set rules over Vegas and yet was so excited about it in her dorky way, she hit that TSA agent for touching her, she was nerdy and wild and sensitive at the same time. I always took her sexual comments as nothing to do with her wanting sex per se (although obviously she does want Sheldon bad), as to the fact that she has no filter and has no idea what's appropriate and when. The hilarious thing about Amy as a character is that they give her these sexual connotations when she is anything but: she has no experience, flips at people touching her, and is not what one would normally consider the embodiment of a "vixen", yet that's the nickname they keep using for her. I love that nickname because of the irony in it, whoever came up with it needs all of the award.

 

If she were really so sexual and eager, she would not be waiting on Sheldon and make the point, again and again, that it's only him that she wants. I think the reason she can put up with Sheldon is because of what was established since day 1: they are so alike they get each other. Although I do admit that Molaro's take on Amy is a bit too "normalizing" and I often worry that they might lose the plot that the reason why Shamy were matched up in the first place is because of their similarities, rather than because Amy can put up with his quirks through patience. Prady had a MUCH better grasp on that, IMO.

Maybe Sheldon and Amy are too similar? I think people have got to remember this is Sheldon we are talking about? He has never had any real intimacy with any female or anyone for that matter in his entire life. He even told Penny and Leonard in one of my favourite scenes from Season 6, that he hasen't ruled out intimacy with Amy, Pennys reaction was classic haha. And like Sheldon said it may not seem like it but what he has with Amy is very intimate, it's a work in progress. It took Penny 6 seasons to tell Leonard she loves him, Penny and Sheldon posses the same kinda of social anxieties in a way, both have very different but similar intimacy issues. So in time Sheldon well grown to be intimate with Amy but its a work in progress.

[Chiara]

That's the thing. I do not think Amy is brave, eager and sexual underneath it all. I think she's very much talk.  She's a virgin too. Mayim made that point in her recent GD interview, that the D&D sex was a very interesting scene to shoot because it shows how even though Amy talks and talks and comes across as sexually aggressive, she gets really nervous and floored when faced with actual intimacy. 

I did not mean "sexual" as in "sexually experienced". That has been made very clear. But "sexual" as in "equiped with a very healthy sex drive".

 

The writers could have turned her into a female version of Sheldon. That was actually what she seemed like for her first handful of appearances : somebody to whom relationships were purely utilitarian and who would have been delighted to bypass sex in order to reproduce efficiently and neatly. But they rather quickly changed the dynamics and provided her with decidedly non-Sheldonian traits : a desire to socialise and live a "normal" life, a healthy dose of sentimentality and, yes, a fully functional sex drive. 

 

Is her "bark" worse than her "bite", so to say ? Sure.

Would she have gone to the lavatories with the others if the girls had agreed to her "plan" ? Debatable but maybe not. However, just the fact that she has those thoughts/fantasies and feels ok with them differenciates her from Sheldon who, just at the idea, would probably want to wipe his mind clean with Purell. 

 

You are of course correct when you state that she wants Sheldon and only Sheldon. She is, after all, a romantic princess (complete with tiara). But, to me, she is no wallflower deep down. If her possee were more adventurous, she would probably go along wih it, and gladly ! She might not go all the way crazy and wild, but she would certainly have one hell of a time. Let's face it, the girl has some twenty years of pent-up adolescence stocked inside of her and may very well be just a couple of Cosmopolitans away from dancing on the table. 

Edited August 22, 2013 by Chiara

[3ku11]

I sometimes think people forget the characters on these shows are also human, Amy is no different to any female being in a relationship with a guy who refuses to budge an inch lol must be frustrating. The way she was in S4 just wasen't sustainable over time, she needed to evolve and adapt and the writers have done but at the same time maintained her logical side. 

[koops]

I did not mean "sexual" as in "sexually experienced". That has been made very clear. But "sexual" as in "equiped with a very healthy sex drive".

 

The writers could have turned her into a female version of Sheldon. That was actually what she seemed like for her first handful of appearances : somebody to whom relationships were purely utilitarian and who would have been delighted to bypass sex in order to reproduce efficiently and neatly. But they rather quickly changed the dynamics and provided her with decidedly non-Sheldonian traits : a desire to socialise and live a "normal" life, a healthy dose of sentimentality and, yes, a fully functional sex drive. 

 

Is her "bark" worse then her "bite", so to say ? Sure.

Would she have gone to the lavatories with the others if the girls had agreed to her "plan" ? Debatable but maybe not. However, just the fact that she has those thoughts/fantasies and feels ok with them differenciates her from Sheldon who, just at the idea, would probably want to wipe his mind clean with Purell. 

 

You are of course correct when you state that she wants Sheldon and only Sheldon. She is, after all, a romantic princess (complete with tiara). But, to me, she is no wallflower deep down. If her possee were more adventurous, she would probably go along wih it, and gladly ! She might not go all the way crazy and wild, but she would certainly have one hell of a time. Let's face it, the girl has some twenty years of pent-up adolescence stocked inside of her and may very well be just a couple of Cosmopolitans away from dancing on the table. 

 

See, I disagree with the last part. I don't think Amy would go "wild" if her posse were wilder. I mean, P/B are already way wilder than she is for many things. And they have been going out dancing and drinking and partying for going on 3 years now. Yet, Amy's idea of a "hot dress" is a Forever 63 grandma gown. She goes on about sex, yet freaks out over a female TSA agent patting her down. She constantly tells P/B she would not do this or do that because her mother told her it's not what girls should do (for example, she was very against even playing hooky to go to Disneyland!). Hardly sounds like a girl who is two drinks away from a wild life, and I think this season premiere confirms that.

 

While I am happy that they are showing the flip-side of the coin with her (Sheldon being the one who doesn't care about what he missed out, Amy caring about it and wanting it), I do think the writers are also heavily emphasizing the fact that she is all talk and no substance. Another example is the "I do love a bad boy" line, followed by Penny's "As evidenced by your boyfriend and fear of hamsters". I think Amy is in the "teenage phase" right now where she is still very excited over having friends for the first time ever and wants to do all these wild things, but yet her idea of wild is actually pretty tame and not what most people would consider wild (see Penny suggesting they go out drinking and Amy wanting to play Twister as if that's the most fun thing to do with her girlfriends, or thinking that playing D&D is even better than Vegas). And that's the beautiful irony. Amy thinks there's a wild party girl inside her but when faced with reality she is anything but. She would *not* work with Sheldon at all if she were an actual wild girl. She would not have the patience and he would not find anything relatable in her. 

 

Or at least so far, I do think the line is thin and easy to cross. That's what I thought they were going to do with this episode, and I'm pleasantly surprised that they seem not to have forgotten the contradictions in her character.

Edited August 22, 2013 by koops

[BlackWhiteRose]

Um, okay. I wasn't going to do this but im just gonna throw it out real quick before i go off to bed. I dont think this is all that bad. PLEASE DONT SHOOT ME! The only thing in it that maybe bothers me a little is the whole topless Penny thing. im not totally surprised Leonard found it and to be honest i can imagine it was probably Howard that helped him find it. ha! Also its not totally OOC for Leonard to show it. Remember he took that picture for comic con? an extreme version of the same thing. Plus we dont know what he actually showed them. It could just have been the part right before she was topless or right after! i doubt he would go about showing his girlfriends boobs off to everyone! And i can only hope he actually didn't. We will only really know when it airs.

 

Okay and the Shenny stuff doesnt bother me either. Let them have their hug, they miss their friend/ boyfriend. I get that maybe its a little annoying since he wont willingly hug Amy but whos to say he was happy with hugging Penny? She could have and probably did pull him in for it and he stood still hating it like he does with Amy. I cant see him all of a sudden pulling her in for a massive cuddle with a huge smile on his face thinking it was great. and i really dont think anything is going to come of it. Except maybe in some fanfiction. That shit is going to go crazy with this, but in the actual show nothing will happen. They are showing Penny missing Leonard, thats a good thing! and the sides for the next episode say Penny is back spending time with Leonard and forgetting about Sheldon so all that hugging and bonding probably wont come about again.

 

*hides in corner while everyone tears up my positive post*

 

I agree with you Molly.

I loved the taping report and I laughed about it.

Can`t wait to see the episode.

And I think its great that Amy and Bernadette are hanging out and that Penny hugs Sheldon is not bad its cute I mean they´re friends and they´re comforting each other `cause they booth are missing Leonard.

And the end sounds funny. Hehe Pennys secret *LOL*

Edited August 22, 2013 by BlackWhiteRose

[3ku11]

I agree with you Molly.

I loved the taping report and I laughed about it.

Can`t wait to see the episode.

And I think its great that Amy and Bernadette are hanging out and that Penny hugs Sheldon is not bad its cute I mean they´re friends and they´re comforting each other `cause they booth are missing Leonard.

And the end sounds funny. Hehe Pennys secret *LOL*

Agree I think ppl are over reacting sounds good mostly to me, bit concerned about Leonard passing it around or what ever was lost in translation haha. But I would so the same thing, coming across the video it makes sense within his peers he would brag about dating the hot girl from the movie bit of an ego boost, Leonard would of needed that. Everything else Like Sheldon and Penny hug thats nice, they are obviousley missing Leonard he is a big part of their lifes, and probably realized how severe the void is in their lifes when he is gone, whether or not this is out of character for Sheldon or not well I don't think so it sounds like a forced hug from Penny's point of view, not initiated nor even recipucated on Sheldon's part, more about Penny feeling alone and they have clearly bonded. People got to keep in mind this isin't 24 hours directly after Leonard leaves this is 4 months afterwards, where Penny and Sheldon would of made adjustments to their living arangements, maybe Penny has stayed in Leonard's bed a few times who knows. This has no serious repurcussions for Shamy as a whole, things as they are remain the same status quo well resume I am sure, it's just the taping report, they may edit a few things out before it hits TV.

[BangerMain]

The odd thing about Leonard showing the video of a topless Penny to his shipmates is that it can't be used to prove his supposed point. Anyone could go on Youtube and show a video of some unknown woman but unless they are in said video it would not prove the woman is his girlfriend.

[3ku11]

The odd thing about Leonard showing the video of a topless Penny to his shipmates is that it can't be used to prove his supposed point. Anyone could go on Youtube and show a video of some unknown woman but unless they are in said video it would not prove the woman is his girlfriend.

Yeah true name recognition is some inaccuracies here, most likely his shipmates well never see him or his "susposed" girlfriend ever again, so I guess they well just have to take his word for it. Besides I don't know why everyone is shocked by this, not the topless scene that is no big deal, the Bakersfeild Ep Leonard too a photo of him and Penny and a LA Newspaper, to proove to people at comic con that Penny is his girlfriend haha, so Leonard has in the past loved to brag abou this hot girlfriend. Obviousley being a nerd he likes to feel supeior, but I also think it is nice he is so proud of Penny regardless of the questionable way of projecting it.

[Meemaw]

Hi, everyone!

 

I went to the last taping too. Just wanted to share, since am sooo happy to have gone there. 

 

I went to last night's episode. New to this forum, but here are a few highlights.

 

The entire process was great. I was lucky enough to have non-standby tickets. The wait was in level 1 of the parking garage, which I think is a change from what I read online?. There were lots of benches for people to sit down and wait. Arrived around 3:45 and it looked like there was already over 100 standby. They announced numbers 1-19 in standby may make it in. Not sure how many actually got in because we were seated by then. We were seated third row right by the center aisle behind VIP. A couple of regulars told us those were great seats...and I have to agree.

 

Leonard is still at the North Sea and Penny and Sheldon are missing him during this episode. Amy and Bernadette are away at a conference and enjoy being hit on by men in a bar. Rajesh spends the episode missing his girlfriend and Howard tries to help him out.

 

Any questions, let me know. Looking forward to spending some time on this board!

 

Nice to meet you, Jennifer!

[Nogravitasatall]

Hi, everyone!

 

I went to the last taping too. Just wanted to share, since am sooo happy to have gone there. 

 Nice to meet you, Jennifer!

Hey Meemaw, you lucky duck. Bet that was fun. Not envious at all, heheheh. And greetings.