Spoilers S7 Spoilers

[silverangel]

I don't know if anyone posted it here but this morning Bill Prady on twitter posted this picture of script cover...oopopppsss I can't post it here... damn it... so here it is the link

 

http://silverangeld.tumblr.com/image/59001136303

Edited August 22, 2013 by silverangel

[Taperoo]

Ok..here is what I have a problem with.  While each individual thing itself in the Sheldon/Penny scenes are not big issues, what bothers me most is out totally out of character most of they were:

 

 

Bottom line, it wasn't each individual action, it was the whole of it that was ridiculously out of character that was the problem. I also don't understand the purpose at all of any of it.  It was to show they miss Leonard...yes I get that...but that could have been expressed so many other ways and remained in character for all three characters really.   So was the making characters fall out of character to fit a story that they wanted to tell for some reason, or that will tie into something down the road, or was this truly a new direction they will be taking with the characters?  I would have liked to have said neither, but I really don't understand what they are doing at all.   I just hope it works itself out and gets back to being a bit funnier and more interesting of a show than what I saw here.

 

I did like the Amy/Bernie scenes and felt rather "meh" about Raj/Howard/Mrs. Davis scenes.

 

1. Sheldon could have taught her how to play as it appears they have spent a lot of time together missing Leonard.

It's the sort of thing Sheldon would do - teach somebody the basics of a game and then proceed to beat them or be surprised by the persons

ability.

2. By the sounds of it Penny shares the not so secret topless scene in a movie with Sheldon and Sheldon merely responds with something to difuse the tension

with something that is not that much of a big deal to anyone but Sheldon. Same old Sheldon.

3. There is probably context to go with the scene of the video playing on the boat. Rather than get all angry about it, perhaps this is a way for the

writers to place a challenge in front of Penny - Leonard acting like her other boyfriends will send her into a tail spin. I doubt it will lead to them

splitting up again (if it does it would be a really weak reason for it on the writers part). It's a chance for Penny to be seen as the mature one of the couple and Leonard to appear immature in a way

we've not seen before. Besides if Howard is the one who found the video (which is likely given the nature of the character in early seasons of the show), then that means Penny will have an outlet to direct her anger towards. 

4. Leonard is not around, so he'll flee to the next person he feels safe around even if he won't admit it to them. Which

would be Penny (bonus she's right across the hall). Makes perfect sense in conjunction with his nightmare about Leonard and the Kraken. This will perhaps not sit well

with Shamy fans but you have to look at Penny and Leonard as Sheldon's surrogate parents (at least when Sheldon's mother is not around). They are helping Sheldon

to gain the maturity he's lacking which in the end will help him with Amy.

5. Because maybe Sheldon sees Penny as a friend and is a bit more comfortable with her hugging him. Amy on the other

hand represents a whole other challenge for Sheldon. She wants more than a hug. And that probably scares the hell out of Sheldon.

Penny = Safety in the same way Leonard offers safety.

 

The thing with set and taping reports is you don't see the final version of an episode until it airs. Thus you can

miss a lot of things. They may well have scenes to insert into the episode with Leonard on the boat that they did not

show to the auidence. As always I reserve judgement until I've seen the episode in question.

[Spaced_up]

Um, okay. I wasn't going to do this but im just gonna throw it out real quick before i go off to bed. I dont think this is all that bad. PLEASE DONT SHOOT ME! The only thing in it that maybe bothers me a little is the whole topless Penny thing. im not totally surprised Leonard found it and to be honest i can imagine it was probably Howard that helped him find it. ha! Also its not totally OOC for Leonard to show it. Remember he took that picture for comic con? an extreme version of the same thing. Plus we dont know what he actually showed them. It could just have been the part right before she was topless or right after! i doubt he would go about showing his girlfriends boobs off to everyone! And i can only hope he actually didn't. We will only really know when it airs.

 

Okay and the Shenny stuff doesnt bother me either. Let them have their hug, they miss their friend/ boyfriend. I get that maybe its a little annoying since he wont willingly hug Amy but whos to say he was happy with hugging Penny? She could have and probably did pull him in for it and he stood still hating it like he does with Amy. I cant see him all of a sudden pulling her in for a massive cuddle with a huge smile on his face thinking it was great. and i really dont think anything is going to come of it. Except maybe in some fanfiction. That shit is going to go crazy with this, but in the actual show nothing will happen. They are showing Penny missing Leonard, thats a good thing! and the sides for the next episode say Penny is back spending time with Leonard and forgetting about Sheldon so all that hugging and bonding probably wont come about again.

 

*hides in corner while everyone tears up my positive post*

 

 

I agree it's not OC for Leonard. He thinks of Penny as a trophy girlfriend, he took a photo because 'his friends won't believe' he's dating a hot girl. This is the entire premise of their relationship. Hot girl and nerd. I think it was probably done for a joke anyway. 

 

Also, whoever said Sheldon and Penny would hug called it. I never in my wildest dreams thought I would see these two share another hug. It's like old times. Thrilled to bits.

[koops]

I am sorry, I called the 3D chess. Now I dare ANYONE to have been able to guess that one. I am so proud of myself I'm going to show off for months about it.

 

Edited August 22, 2013 by koops

[Spaced_up]

I am sorry, I called the 3D chess. Now I dare ANYONE to have been able to guess that one. I am so proud of myself I'm going to show off for months about it.

 

That is seriously impressive 

[koops]

Except Sheldon HAS initiated two hugs with Penny before - no, it didn't lead to romance - but those two hugs are part of Big Bang Theory history. They were in the Bath Item Gift Hypothesis, and then the one where Sheldon is trying to go to Switzerland to see the Higgs Boson. Penny only initiated one hug with Sheldon so far (the pilot) so he is one up on her actually.

 

He has also hugged Professor Proton And Wil Wheaton. Penny is no special cookie as far as hugs are concerned. Actually Sheldon has probably hugged more people than Leonard! Which makes the whole sudden reticence with having him touch Amy even more baffling. Writers really need to get a grip.

Edited August 22, 2013 by koops

[Spaced_up]

He has also hugged Professor Proton And Wil Wheaton. Penny is no special cookie as far as hugs are concerned.

 

Any Sheldon hug is special because of who he is.

 

Sheldon and Penny's friendship is far more important to the show than Wil Wheaton or Proton. Their friendship has produced some of the highest ratest episodes in the shows history. I agree with Shellsyke. Sheldon has initiated two hugs, both with Penny. This is part of the shows history and I'm pleased the writers are showing this regardless of the fact it's only a friendship. They are not just servicing the ships and it shows they are not being dictated too by ships either. 

Edited August 22, 2013 by Spaced_up

[Count Wally de Honk]

 

And Professor Proton is grateful....Actually grateful probably isn't the right word....

[Spaced_up]

 

And Professor Proton is grateful....Actually grateful probably isn't the right word....

 

Love it! Proton's face is perfect and Sheldon is really into that hug. LOL!

[koops]

Any Sheldon hug is special because of who he is.

 

Sheldon and Penny's friendship is far more important to the show than Wil Wheaton or Proton. Their friendship has produced some of the highest ratest episodes in the shows history. I agree with Shellsyke. Sheldon has initiated two hugs, both with Penny. This is part of the shows history and I'm pleased the writers are showing this regardless of the fact it's only a friendship. They are not just servicing the ships and it shows they are not being dictated too by ships either. 

 

Sheldon has initiated 4 hugs. 2 of which with Penny. All I'm saying is it's not the hugging that determines Penny's importance in his life, since arguably both Wheaton and Proton are less important to him than Penny. And that post was replying to Phanta's post saying that hug does not equal romance. Nobody is arguing that Sheldon's hugs aren't special, they were simply saying they're no reason to freak out that there's romance coming (like some people tend to), since he hugs people he has no romantic interest towards. And that him suddenly having a problem hugging Amy (when he didn't in the past, since he spent a whole evening cuddling with her) is inconsistent with the fact that he does hug all sorts of people, important or not. 

Edited August 22, 2013 by koops

[Spaced_up]

Sheldon has initiated 4 hugs. 2 of which with Penny. All I'm saying is it's not the hugging that determines Penny's importance in his life, since arguably both Wheaton and Proton are less important to him than Penny. And that post was replying to Phanta's post saying that hug does not equal romance. Nobody is arguing that Sheldon's hugs aren't special, they were simply saying they're no reason to freak out that there's romance coming (like some people tend to), since he hugs people he has no romantic interest towards. And that him suddenly having a problem hugging Amy (when he didn't in the past, since he spent a whole evening cuddling with her) is inconsistent with the fact that he does hug all sorts of people, important or not. 

 

I see your point. 

[Chiara]

Nobody is arguing that Sheldon's hugs aren't special, they were simply saying they're no reason to freak out that there's romance coming (like some people tend to), since he hugs people he has no romantic interest towards. And that him suddenly having a problem hugging Amy (when he didn't in the past, since he spent a whole evening cuddling with her) is inconsistent with the fact that he does hug all sorts of people, important or not. 

I think there is a little extra subtlety to Sheldon's hugs that may explain his continued reticence when it comes to Amy. 

 

Sheldon does not just hug people because he likes them. To the best of my recollection, he only does so when particularly overwhelmed/extremely pleased. So it is not just a matter of persons, but also one of context. He needs to be so excited/delighted that he cannot express it with words and therefore resorts to using his long, lean arms to communicate his sentiment. 

It is quite in keeping with the rest of the character to be fair : Sheldon is a wordy guy. He has an OED in the head and is not afraid to use it. His body is just a vessel to his mind (to him at least). As long as the brain works, the body does not (hence this supreme economy of movement displayed by Mr. Parsons). But when the cerebral chemistry goes south, then the body takes over, i.e. hugging people or squirming on the floor in extasy when dominoes fall. 

 

To get a hug, Amy has to bypass Dr Cooper's brain. 

Edited August 22, 2013 by Chiara

[Spaced_up]

I think there is a little extra subtlety to Sheldon's hugs that may explain his continued reticence when it comes to Amy. 

 

Sheldon does not just hug people because he likes them. To the best of my recollection, he only does so when particularly overwhelmed/extremely pleased. So it is not just a matter of persons, but also one of context. He needs to be so excited/delighted that he cannot express it with words and therefore resorts to using his long, lean arms to communicate his sentiment. 

It is quite in keeping with the rest of the character to be fair : Sheldon is a wordy guy. He has an OED in the head and is not afraid to use it. His body is just a vessel to his mind (to him at least). As long as the brain works, the body does not (hence this supreme economy of movement displayed by Mr. Parsons). But when the cerebral chemistry goes south, then the body takes over, i.e. hugging people or squirming on the floor in extasy when dominoes fall. 

 

To get a hug, Amy has to bypass Dr Cooper's brain. 

 

I agree. Sheldon's hugs (and all physical touching) are not about the brain and herein lies the biggest problem between Sheldon and Amy, imo. 

 

This up and coming hug is initiated by Penny, I'm keen to see his reaction and how it fits the template.

Edited August 22, 2013 by Spaced_up

[koops]

I agree Chiara. That's why I'm totally fine with him not hugging Amy if it's just in a moment of overwhelming joy or something along those lines, but that when he does it's more controlled and/or because he wants to, for whatever reason. I thought 6x14 was a fantastic step forward to show him starting to like being hugged. It very clever. But I was just saying that in the past he wasn't as reluctant with returning her hugs as they have made him from V-day onward.

[rachelshamyfan]

Nice to see we have a taping report thread, be so much easier to find individual reports

[AndyRenee]

After thinking it over...here are my thoughts on the Sheldon and Penny moments. I think they were ultimately just venting their feelings during the conversation to distract themselves from missing Leonard. I believe that is why she hugs Sheldon. Penny is overwhelmed with missing Leonard.  And ultimately I think that is why he agrees to hug her back. That and the fact this he does have a friendship bond with Penny, of course. I mean Sheldon's feelings are hurt about YouTube? Come on. I don't buy that. He is missing his little buddy. So him and Penny hug it out to help themselves. Molaro did say "Sheldon and Penny would bond greatly over missing Leonard..." or something to that effect. From the taping report alone, I do get that feeling very much. Of course, we will just to have to wait and see how it all plays out...

[Carlos]

1) Even assuming that Penny had told Leonard, what business does she have telling Sheldon? They do not have the type of relationship where that would come up. Secondly the times they have showed Penny's forays into acting have been few and far between either by showing them, or Penny talking about them. I wonder why bring up this now? I must say that it also seems out of character for Penny, and something like a topless scene should have been brought up before.

2) If Leonard actually showed the other people a clip of the movie, even if it wasn't the topless scene, he's an idiot for reasons already discussed. 

3) The suggestion that Amy cheat on Sheldon on Bernadette's part is apalling.

 

So..... dammmmmm! The show's premiere and they have already managed to destroy 3 characters. And to think they had all summer to think about it. Hope it changes, but it is NOT a good sign.

[Chaliceinnana]

1) Even assuming that Penny had told Leonard, what business does she have telling Sheldon? They do not have the type of relationship where that would come up. Secondly the times they have showed Penny's forays into acting have been few and far between either by showing them, or Penny talking about them. I wonder why bring up this now? I must say that it also seems out of character for Penny, and something like a topless scene should have been brought up before.

2) If Leonard actually showed the other people a clip of the movie, even if it wasn't the topless scene, he's an idiot for reasons already discussed. 

3) The suggestion that Amy cheat on Sheldon on Bernadette's part is apalling.

 

So..... dammmmmm! The show's premiere and they have already managed to destroy 3 characters. And to think they had all summer to think about it. Hope it changes, but it is NOT a good sign.

 

This whole episode reads as sick and wrong... I am trying to keep an open mind though. Focusing on the positives...

 

Amy enjoyed her drink, the implications of her drink, remained ladylike and told Bernadette off. That's good... it's not hilarious, but woot?

 

Bernadette and Amy made up... before admitting essentially that if they were going to have a one-nighter, the kind of dude they'd want for meaningless sex would be the other's man. (sick and wrong.)

 

Penny has a movie credit! Good for her!... Well, okay, her boobs have a movie credit.. She told Sheldon, while sober. Leonard told everyone at Sea... (sick and wrong)

 

And I don't really care what happened to Raj, but I wish Howard would have had something more fun to do in the episode. Maybe a slumber party with the ladies at the science conference...

 

Sick and wrong, I know... but it might have actually been fun. The episode sounds pretty empty. I am really hoping the edit turns out great! And that they do a ton of reshoots this week.

[SRAM]

I have heard that they do re-shoots, when do they do them. This episode does not sound very funny.

[Chrismo]

1) Even assuming that Penny had told Leonard, what business does she have telling Sheldon? They do not have the type of relationship where that would come up. Secondly the times they have showed Penny's forays into acting have been few and far between either by showing them, or Penny talking about them. I wonder why bring up this now? I must say that it also seems out of character for Penny, and something like a topless scene should have been brought up before.

2) If Leonard actually showed the other people a clip of the movie, even if it wasn't the topless scene, he's an idiot for reasons already discussed. 

3) The suggestion that Amy cheat on Sheldon on Bernadette's part is apalling.

 

So..... dammmmmm! The show's premiere and they have already managed to destroy 3 characters. And to think they had all summer to think about it. Hope it changes, but it is NOT a good sign.

The person who saw the filming actually seemed to like the episode. My comments on your points.

 

1. Penny and Sheldon are friends. Her telling Sheldon isn't shocking. They have discussed many personal things over the years. 

2. I'm guessing Leonard was drunk when he showed the video. At worst a lapse in judgment. But in his defense he always has to prove Penny is his girlfriend because most don't believe it.

3. Again more of a lapse of judgment with drinking involved. I think Bernadette like the rest of us thinks Amy wishes her relationship(with Sheldon) was further along than it is. It appears both A/B got caught in the moment of both of them getting the free drinks from a couple of guys. Bernadette sounds like she realizes she went too far.

 

All in all it doesn't seem like it's that bad of an episode if you don't look too hard for a deeper meaning. Actually I like the idea that Penny really misses Leonard and Amy and Bernadette may be becoming closer. I think those are actually good things.

[koops]

I honestly cannot believe people are taking the whole A/B describing each other's men joke seriously. Do you even get the joke? They were INSULTING each other's men up until that very moment and they just asked each other which guy they found cuter or something along those lines. They never said "If I were to have a one-night stand I'd want this kind of man". If Amy had described Sheldon and Bernadette had described Howard, the whole joke would have fallen apart. That doesn't mean they want to sleep with the other's SO or that they want to sleep with anyone other than their SOs. 

[Chrismo]

I honestly cannot believe people are taking the whole A/B describing each other's men joke seriously. Do you even get the joke? They were INSULTING each other's men up until that very moment and they just asked each other which guy they found cuter or something along those lines. They never said "If I were to have a one-night stand I'd want this kind of man". If Amy had described Sheldon and Bernadette had described Howard, the whole joke would have fallen apart. That doesn't mean they want to sleep with the other's SO or that they want to sleep with anyone other than their SOs. 

Some people see m a little tense on here today.

[koops]

Some people see m a little tense on here today.

 

 

I am usually the most anal, annoying, overcritical pain in the butt on here and I'm having to tell people to chill. 

 

[Disgusted]

Some people see m a little tense on here today.

 

They've seen the spoilers. They're tense. We all are.

[eirwinrommel]

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