Chiany Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Well we know Leonard stood up to Sheldon, but it doesn't really say if he won the argument or not. They already have a pretty crowded apartment. I can't imagine them giving up their desks to fit a table in there. So it will be interesting to see how that plays out. Indeed, I have no idea what they would sacrafice to make room for the table. They might need to rearrange the entire apartment, which I can't see happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Theory is Penny wants a dinner table because she is planning in moving in with Leonard and Sheldon, and wants to start having proper dinners instead of chinese takeouts haha I dont know! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Indeed, I have no idea what they would sacrafice to make room for the table. They might need to rearrange the entire apartment, which I can't see happening. Exactly. Unless they cleaned out that entire little alcove room where they have the telescope, etc. I can't see them having room anywhere for a dining room table. I don't think they are likely to clean that area out. It is full of stuff and while I agree that they really could do some tossing out of things, you know how they are. They think of everything is important. So I just think it ends up being an argument, Leonard standing up, but not winning. It probably will be that they don't get a table after all. Perhaps the whole purpose is to show that L/S want different things now and are going through growing pains of wanting lives that include their women more and thus those cause conflicts with them as roommates. It may be yet another building-block story for L/P to move into her apartment together or get a larger place of their own. We know Sheldon won't move (and he shouldn't have to as that was his apartment first). Also Amy's hints about living alone play into all of this in some way as well. I suspect she must have been part of this story as well because I can't see her being involved in the Howard story as much. I think she probably is part of this story, but that sprinkles just didn't mention her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Another L/S/P episode. Amy's part so insignificant that it's not even mentioned. Sounds boring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Sprinkles is going to type up more shortly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Well it doesent exactly sound boring too me, I guess if your favorite archs in the show are not featured it wouldent compell you that much. Doesent bother me lack of Amy or Shamy, but then again my response to taping reports or episodes are not based on what characters are involved, just the quality of the episode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I don't think it sounds boring...I think the Howard story could be interesting, but it is hard to say with so little information. I think though, some fans are getting tired of the S/P and S/L/P dynamic constantly being played out. You can get too much of a "good thing". Sure they have been gold in the past, but if you have the same characters in your face each week, the fun becomes less obvious. They start to get stale. Also the premise sounds a bit trivial for a sweeps story. I think it could be entertaining, but perhaps not the best sweeps oriented story. Hopefully the table story is the B story and the Howard story is the A story because it has the two guests involved in that story. Edited January 29, 2014 by stardustmelody Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodidIwin? Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) Another L/S/P episode. Amy's part so insignificant that it's not even mentioned. Sounds boring. The episode doesn't sound boring to me at all. Any time Leonard stands up to Sheldon works for me. Also, L/P/S are the main characters after all, so they should be seen together quite a bit. Plus I like the Howard storyline. Edited January 29, 2014 by SodidIwin? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 When Leonard stands up to Sheldon, Sheldon blames Penny for this because Sheldon thinks since she came along, she is the reason for changing Leonard. And then somehow they got to a point where Sheldon also realizes how much he's changed because of Amy. So, yes Amy is also a big factor in this episode…and I don't want to give everything away yet because there's a bit where it kinda freaked me out for sec. And they do get a table but you know in the end, Sheldon's the big baby that always "wins". So we got the answer about the table. Glad Amy is in it, but want to know more there about what freaked her out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGirl Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) we've had so many episode of Leonard going against Sheldon.... Why keep having Leonard going against Sheldon when you know what the out come will be. Sheldon wins no matter what and it's the very reason I so want Leonard to get a place of his own --- I don't want him moving in with Penny (as it is her place and Leonard would probably wind up in the same shape he is with Sheldon) and I am ready for him to move out of Sheldon's apartment. I feel it has never really been Leonard's apartment because Sheldon had final say on everything that goes on and that isn't a home in my opinion. Edited January 29, 2014 by ArmyGirl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cherry Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 there has been so many L/S/P lately that I'm a bit fed up with that kind of plot. I'm OK with Howardette, they usually are funny. I hope they are A story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodidIwin? Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 we've had so many episode of Leonard going against Sheldon.... GOOD...He deserves it IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiany Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 So we got the answer about the table. Glad Amy is in it, but want to know more there about what freaked her out. Excited about the Amy part too, but sounds very good that Sheldon is starting to realize her importance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) GOOD...He deserves it IMHO. Why does he deserve it? Sheldon explained in detail, in a written document even, his expectations to Leonard from day one. If Leonard started to disagree, it isn't Sheldon's fault. Honestly, as Army Girl said, it was always Sheldon's apartment and not really Leonard's. Leonard became a tenant, but not really was it his per se. It always was Sheldon's from the start. Also, Leonard knew what kind of person Sheldon was just upon meeting him. He saw he was a stickler for rules and signed and agreed to those rules. I can understand him not wanting to live by them forever, but at the same time, I can't see why Sheldon has to give in to Leonard in cases like this one. Edited January 29, 2014 by stardustmelody Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGirl Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 So we got the answer about the table. Glad Amy is in it, but want to know more there about what freaked her out. We all knew Sheldon would win. Same old, same old for this show. I am glad Amy is there with L/P/S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SodidIwin? Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Why keep having Leonard going against Sheldon when you know what the out come will be. Sheldon wins no matter what and it's the very reason I so want Leonard to get a place of his own --- I don't want him moving in with Penny (as it is her place and Leonard would probably wind up in the same shape he is with Sheldon) and I am ready for him to move out of Sheldon's apartment. I feel it has never really been Leonard's apartment because Sheldon had final say on everything that goes on and that isn't a home in my opinion. Looks like you are correct in this episode..."Big baby Sheldon always "wins"." Now that fact is really getting old! "Big baby Sheldon always wins!" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGirl Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Why does he deserve it? Sheldon explained in detail, in a written document even, his expectations to Leonard from day one. If Leonard started to disagree, it isn't Sheldon's fault. Honestly, as Army Girl said, it was always Sheldon's apartment and not really Leonard's. Leonard became a tenant, but not really was it his per se. It always was Sheldon's from the start. Also, Leonard knew what kind of person Sheldon was just upon meeting him. He saw he was a stickler for rules and signed and agreed to those rules. I can understand him not wanting to live by them forever, but at the same time, I can't see why Sheldon has to give in to Leonard in cases like this one. I am on Leonard side and that is why I want him to move out and let Sheldon do everything for himself. Sheldon didn't want a roommate he wanted a servant to be at his beck and call. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 GOOD...He deserves it IMHO. I agree to a certain extent, I have always felt Sheldon treated Leonard more like a roommate then a friend, their are moments their and their to say theirs a real friendship their. But its not like with Howard and Raj they become friends in another context and under different circumstances, with Sheldon the way he is he can be very overbearing and patronising, and also controlling obviousley, so it must be hard to live with someone who constantly undermines everything he does, not just Leonard Sheldon did the same thing with Penny, I feel anyone who doesent have his IQ he looks down at, like he said in S3 when he was teaching Penny physics "For instance I cry when people are stupid, because it makes me sad". Not saying Sheldon doesen't have his good sides, but you need to take him in doses, Leonard needs some kinda reward for putting up with him for so long haha, and its true too theirs no logical reason why Leonard is still living with him, but I guess having his girlfriend living next door is convineint, I feel the writers though are resisting change and at some point are going to have to break the L/P/S arch that has been the core of the show and still is . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmyGirl Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Looks like you are correct in this episode..."Big baby Sheldon always "wins"." Now that fact is really getting old! "Big baby Sheldon always wins!" Was there ever any doubt that Sheldon would win. I mean it's Sheldon and he always win even when he is wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiany Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 But they do get the table, and Sheldon wins. Sounds a bit like a compromise some how. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
3ku11 Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Why does he deserve it? Sheldon explained in detail, in a written document even, his expectations to Leonard from day one. If Leonard started to disagree, it isn't Sheldon's fault. Honestly, as Army Girl said, it was always Sheldon's apartment and not really Leonard's. Leonard became a tenant, but not really was it his per se. It always was Sheldon's from the start. Also, Leonard knew what kind of person Sheldon was just upon meeting him. He saw he was a stickler for rules and signed and agreed to those rules. I can understand him not wanting to live by them forever, but at the same time, I can't see why Sheldon has to give in to Leonard in cases like this one. Thats true but if Sheldon was a reasonable person, he wouldent of wrote the roommate agreement in the first place, he would be Hey mate I'm Sheldon knock twice to use the bathroom in the morning, don't touch my whiteboard I'm a genius and since I am letting a pessant in my world, its best you dont touch or the time space continum may be screwed up. Oh and its Pancake Thursday not Friday, so if you ever get a GF just FYI ;")". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilia Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Oh my God is it just me or this is a huge deal for Shamy????? I mean we had 7x11 when Amy finally realized how much she changed him. in a good way. I wish Sheldon realizes that too.Not in the sense "what the hell that vixen has done to me".I would like to apreciate the changes Amy caused...But I guess he will one ep after the SIK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 (edited) I am on Leonard side and that is why I want him to move out and let Sheldon do everything for himself. Sheldon didn't want a roommate he wanted a servant to be at his beck and call. Yep..I knew that and I am on both of their sides. I just think that they have outgrown each other as roommates. They needed each other earlier because both were still young and trying to navigate through life and learn how to adapt more socially. But now that they have steady girlfriends and have matured (well somewhat at least), they are bucking heads. It is like a son and father when the son reaches adulthood...they often have a hard time getting along until the son moves out. Same here. These guys are reaching that point where they really need to have their own spaces. So I agree with you about Leonard moving out. Sheldon needs to gain more independence and can't while he and Penny are catering to all his needs. Even Amy stands up to him and says she won't do things for him. So others need to do the same or Sheldon will always be "baby" Sheldon because he can get away with it. Cecilia, I agree, I think this could be a bit admission by Sheldon...that he has changed because of Amy and she has had an impact on his life. I just hope the "freaking out" ends up a positive "freak out" and not a negative one that Sprinkles had. Edited January 29, 2014 by stardustmelody Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilia Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Yes Star I don't know how to feel about that freaking out part.I guess it is good freak out since the person who wrote it said they didn't want to give away too much like don't spoil the surprise.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted January 29, 2014 Posted January 29, 2014 Yes Star I don't know how to feel about that freaking out part.I guess it is good freak out since the person who wrote it said they didn't want to give away too much like don't spoil the surprise.. Well she was working on the full report. However, now that site is doing its usual "down time" that it does each night around now. It should be back up on about 30 minutes. Hopefully we will get more then. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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