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Irreconcilable differences.

I'm going to quote that old saw, "keep your friends close, and your enemies closer". It makes the show more economical, and profitable, keeping the villain inside the tent. Just like Dr Zachary Smith. They don't need a monster of the week, they just strike sparks off Sheldon and comedy ensues. Then prettiness - and obvious height-ism in the general population - has taken over. Nothing to be done.

LOL.

But at least Penny and Leonard haven't actually left, so the part of the story interesting to me is still there, dripping out slowly.

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I agree.  These guys are outcasts who find kindred spirits in each other.  Earlier in the series when Penny was just getting to know them, we saw more of what the guys had in common.  The scene this season when they were trying to get Comic-con tickets felt like that.  Last season Bakersfield was the same way.

 

Like Phanta said, I think we're supposed to see Sheldon as extremely prideful in a funny way.  He says these things that are insults but the gang knows he's just running off at the mouth and doesn't really mean them.  Sheldon doesn't make new friends easily but once he accepts someone into his circle of friends, he is loyal and devoted.  For me, those moments, especially with Amy and Leonard, when he lets down the prideful exterior to show how deeply he cares for people are extremely touching. 

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Its a bit like friends, all of them at some time did and said mean things but they worked it out

Sheldon probably has some annoying traits but he's not the only one and probably has less than the others tbh

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Its a bit like friends, all of them at some time did and said mean things but they worked it out

Sheldon probably has some annoying traits but he's not the only one and probably has less than the others tbh

Um, less than the others? It's his "endearing wackiness" that is now the show's primary driver. They plant that over almost every moment.

Hmm, I wonder how Emily will interact with him. That will be interesting. Hope she sticks around till next season.

edit. And really, would anyone put up with your SO's flatmate calling you dumb, proposing you do porn and constantly belittling your SO? Hells no. Its got to be a setup for laughs. Can't be anyway real.

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If Leonard likes him as a friend, who are you to tell him he shouldn't?

Just because you don't like Sheldon doesn't mean that the gang doesn't.

 

A lot of people say, "I wouldn't put up with his crap" or whatever, but it's not about what any of us would put up with, but what the show's characters put up with.  Like Leonard has said before, they rag on each other, tease each other, etc.

He tells Sheldon he looks like a giant praying mantis, they laugh at him when the students at his lecture make fun of him--and they gleefully show him the comments.  They tease him and make fun of him just as much as he does them.

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If Leonard likes him as a friend, who are you to tell him he shouldn't?

Just because you don't like Sheldon doesn't mean that the gang doesn't.

 

A lot of people say, "I wouldn't put up with his crap" or whatever, but it's not about what any of us would put up with, but what the show's characters put up with.  Like Leonard has said before, they rag on each other, tease each other, etc.

He tells Sheldon he looks like a giant praying mantis, they laugh at him when the students at his lecture make fun of him--and they gleefully show him the comments.  They tease him and make fun of him just as much as he does them.

I'm saying I don't find it amusing to watch Sheldon go all Sheldon on Penny all the time because it's old and unpleasant. I've been in since day 1 and Sheldon's journey isn't what brought me in and isn't going to me make stay. Not speaking for any majority, just me. If that's where the show goes I probably just better adjust.

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But Sheldon is both.

 

Yeah, let's not forget that Sheldon is the whiny one. The table episode pretty much summed it up.

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He had every right to complain when something was forced on him that he clearly wasn't happy about, penny doesn't even live there so had no need to be interfere

I forgot that some of you think Leonard can do no wrong

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Speaking (or actually writing) for myself, I will add my opinion on this.  Sheldon is a wonderfully quirky, irksome and loveable(why sometimes we don't know) character.  I didn't start watching for him specifically but his character is without a doubt iconic and a very integral part of the show.  Now here comes the BUT..

 

Just like anything else - too much of a good thing can grate on people.  I know it has on me.  It doesn't mean that I don't like the character. 

 

I know this is the spoiler thread and sorry for being off topic but the discussion was started here.  Some of the episodes of late appear to me just to be vehicles for showcasing Sheldon.  I think that is why I enjoyed the dinner date with Raj/Howard etc.  because Sheldon was not in it. 

 

That being said, I hope they continue to showcase other pairings within the core group besides those that involve Sheldon. 

 

And once again I will state that I am NOT trying to attack Sheldon..

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He had every right to complain when something was forced on him that he clearly wasn't happy about, penny doesn't even live there so had no need to be interfere

I forgot that some of you think Leonard can do no wrong

 

Every right to complain? Leonard (who, btw, bought the table and ALSO lives there) is allowed to change some things in the apartment. It's funny how you try to blame Penny, even though it was Bernadette's idea and Leonard bought it. You just don't wanna face the truth: Sheldon is a giant baby.

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Penny encouraged Leonard though, Sheldon is only a baby in some peoples view, certainly not mine

Leonard knows Sheldon doesn't like change but chose to conveniently ignore that

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Penny encouraged Leonard though, Sheldon is only a baby in some peoples view, certainly not mine

Leonard knows Sheldon doesn't like change but chose to conveniently ignore that

 

Awww, poor Sheldon. You seem to forget that Leonard is not his slave. He LIVES there and also pays for the rent. The roommate agreement allows him to change 50% of the apartment. So... even if he doesn't like change, it is in this stupid roommate agreement HE wrote. He doesn't have a single right to complain. And about the baby part... the whole group calls him a big baby (and even Sheldon said it in the table episode). But apparently, I'm watching another show.

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I think there can never be too much Sheldon, so... :p

I just enjoy seeing all the characters and I really don't care about who gets what percentage of story time and I don't take their squabbles to heart because it's part of the premise of the show that they have conflicts over things like each other's different quirks and how they come into play in various situations, hence, situation comedy. If they were all full of sunshine and sweetness, it would get pretty sickening and cloying.

It's really not that big a deal, IMO.

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Awww, poor Sheldon. You seem to forget that Leonard is not his slave. He LIVES there and also pays for the rent. The roommate agreement allows him to change 50% of the apartment. So... even if he doesn't like change, it is in this stupid roommate agreement HE wrote. He doesn't have a single right to complain. And about the baby part... the whole group calls him a big baby (and even Sheldon said it in the table episode). But apparently, I'm watching another show.

 

When was it mentioned that he is allowed to change 50% of the apartment? 

 

As for the issue, neither Leonard nor Sheldon is a victim in this, though many are acting like Leonard is. He knew what Sheldon was like when he moved in, but has still chosen to live with him for the last ten years despite incessant complaints. 

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When was it mentioned that he is allowed to change 50% of the apartment? 

 

3.22, The Staircase Implementation

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As for the issue, neither Leonard nor Sheldon is a victim in this, though many are acting like Leonard is. He knew what Sheldon was like when he moved in, but has still chosen to live with him for the last ten years despite incessant complaints. 

 

I'm not saying that Leonard is always right (he isn't), but when people try to defend Sheldon, even if he's obviously wrong, then that really pisses me off.

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Speaking (or actually writing) for myself, I will add my opinion on this. Sheldon is a wonderfully quirky, irksome and loveable(why sometimes we don't know) character. I didn't start watching for him specifically but his character is without a doubt iconic and a very integral part of the show. Now here comes the BUT..

Just like anything else - too much of a good thing can grate on people. I know it has on me. It doesn't mean that I don't like the character.

I know this is the spoiler thread and sorry for being off topic but the discussion was started here. Some of the episodes of late appear to me just to be vehicles for showcasing Sheldon. I think that is why I enjoyed the dinner date with Raj/Howard etc. because Sheldon was not in it.

That being said, I hope they continue to showcase other pairings within the core group besides those that involve Sheldon.

And once again I will state that I am NOT trying to attack Sheldon..

So much agreed!

This season has been incredibly Sheldon-heavy. Literally every episode with the exception of maybe one or two have been about him. Even when plots involved other characters, they were tailored to show us how they would affect him. I don't blame people for being fed up with him.

I've heard a lot of complaints recently that the season has been very heavy on Sheldon and Penny (as individual characters, not necessarily as a pairing) and it is true. Other than Raj, who occasionally has his love life plot, the other four characters have pretty much being simple foils to tell stories about Sheldon and Penny. Leonard's trip was maybe the biggest example of this.

But last year we were demanding that they tackle Penny's career and Sheldon's growth and Raj's mutism, and this is what they've done this season. So as long as it is wrapped up satisfactorily, I'm hopeful that the others will get their turn next season. If you think about it, the other four were very central in S4 and 5 and have been then put on the backburner since S6. They will hopefully be taken out of the box and played with next season. But I agree that they need to ease up on the Sheldon a little. Not everyone watches the show for the Sheldon show :p

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3.22, The Staircase Implementation

But Sheldon also mentions that they have a "committee" that deals with furniture, etc., that convenes every other year and the table issue should have fallen under that committee's business. And Leonard didn't even initially object to that idea, only that the committee should meet more often.

And as DaisyJane put it, Leonard knows the deal and lives there on purpose and deals with Sheldon on an everyday basis, so it's not as if he doesn't know the score.

And again, the comedy comes out of taking these known factors and putting the characters into situations that are going to highlight these factors, whether it's Raj's girl problems, Sheldon's control/change issues, Penny's career issues, Leonard's long-suffering tolerance of all if his friends, etc.

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the show is great as it is...

who would watch a show with a very well behaved sheldon and a great manly leonard??

sheldon's character is developed tat way.. some of us love him..some of us dont...

leonard is the understanding room mate... but they do share a wonderful frndship.. under all those layers...

and are considerate to each others feelings too!

 

sheldon is sort of a person who even has a relationship agreement...with his girlfrnd.. he is weird .. but he is wat he is...

and each of the characters have accepted each other,, with their good and bad included


But Sheldon also mentions that they have a "committee" that deals with furniture, etc., that convenes every other year and the table issue should have fallen under that committee's business. And Leonard didn't even initially object to that idea, only that the committee should meet more often.

And as DaisyJane put it, Leonard knows the deal and lives there on purpose and deals with Sheldon on an everyday basis, so it's not as if he doesn't know the score.

And again, the comedy comes out of taking these known factors and putting the characters into situations that are going to highlight these factors, whether it's Raj's girl problems, Sheldon's control/change issues, Penny's career issues, Leonard's long-suffering tolerance of all if his friends, etc.

agree!!

if everything goes smoothly and everything is great.. why will anyone bother to watch the show???

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