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I can see Sheldon and Penny being way behind because of Sheldon's neurotic need for perfection lol, Penny: "Come on Sheldon were got to get out their! Sheldon: Excuse me Penny I am the team captain Penny: "Cya" lol. 

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I ´ve read the report and I didn`t laugh about a single scene because it was not really funny at all. But I`ll wait until the episode airs. Maybe it turns out to be funny I`ll see.

But this one is very close to be as lame as the Speckerman episode from Season 5. Sorry!

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Lol for the record I don't think you can get a grasp of the episode based on the translation of a taping report. It's like reading the script basically, how the dialogue translates onto tv can be very different on tv. I'm not going to judge any of the episodes until I actually see some actual movement :)

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Plus the actual report is not detailed enough mainly due to the weird timings of the tapings to jump to any conclusions about it yet! There's probably a lot more stuff in the real thing that we'll see that's not on the report.

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Haha join the club everyone is puzzled to as why people ship Sheldon and Penny in a romantic dynamic, I have watched the show since the pilot, the only reason Sheldon and Penny seven years later are even Friends is because of Leonard's persistence in making Penny part of the group. I have been confused always to even where the idea comes from, and what amazing friendship? Sheldon and Penny are no closer then she is with Howard or Raj theirs no difference IMO. It is a scavenger hunt and the writers decided to pair up Sheldon and Penny knowing it will bring alot of banter and comedy, they have been friends for seven years. Only thing I can think of is Shamy fans are getting more frustrated, if an ep doesen't have their relationship being the basis, like I said TBH coulden't care less the relationships well take care of themselfs, its the Big Bang Theory always has been always well be

Woa. we are definitely watching two different shows. Penny is no closer to Sheldon than she is to Howard or Raj?

 

Didn't she tell Sheldon she loved him and was happy he was in her life? I don't even have the time to go through all the moments since S1 she's helped or been there for Sheldon, or he's showed interest in her as a good friend. Including still hiding the fact he was going to see her and have dinner even after Leonard and Penny broke up. Has Raj or Howard spent the night at Pennys apt? Asked her to take care of them when they were sick?

They (Penn and Sheldon) live across the hall from one another for what we are to believe is going on seven years now, and she's been over Sheldon and Leonard's apt almost everyday since they've met even before dating Leonard.

Yet they are not some what closer than she is with Raj and Howard?

Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

 

:unsure:

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Woa. we are definitely watching two different shows. Penny is no closer to Sheldon than she is to Howard or Raj?

 

Didn't she tell Sheldon she loved him and was happy he was in her life? I don't even have the time to go through all the moments since S1 she's helped or been there for Sheldon, or he's showed interest in her as a good friend. Including still hiding the fact he was going to see her and have dinner even after Leonard and Penny broke up. Has Raj or Howard spent the night at Pennys apt? Asked her to take care of them when they were sick?

They (Penn and Sheldon) live across the hall from one another for what we are to believe is going on seven years now, and she's been over Sheldon and Leonard's apt almost everyday since they've met even before dating Leonard.

Yet they are not some what closer than she is with Raj and Howard?

Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

 

:unsure:

Lol for the record Penny told Sheldon she loves him in S6 out of a spur in the moment, she just realized that she is passionate about Leonard and her friends, and Sheldon happened to be in the apartment. Did I ever say Sheldon and Penny weren't close? No If you bothered reading some of my points I clearly stated they are friends and have been for seven years like you said, I just meant at the end of the day their friendship is on the same level its platonic. And as for Raj and Howard spending time at Penny's apt, well Penny slept with Raj lol so I well say they have been more physicaly intimate, not that I a bringing that up again just trying to make a point. I was more getting at some point who ship Sheldon and Penny romantically, as most people would agree it has never been anything but platonic, and since S3 when Lenny broke up the idea of a romantic Shenny had really been settle and delt with, they have had some great comedic moments but thats it. I was just trying to make the point they are friends! Sorry if I wasen't clear on that, point I was making is Penny woulden't be going over every day if say Leonard wasen't their when she first moved in, Sheldon and Penny most likely woulden't of even said two words to each other, I mean Sheldon had no plans on doing so and if not for Leonard woulden't of, although thats all hypothetical. I get Sheldon and Penny are close as friends that was my point, all I meant was is she is just as close with Howard and Raj too.

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I understand that for us, 'shippers of either Lenny or Shamy persuasion, it can be frustrating to see the couples we favour "dismantled". However, so much of their development is already focused on romance-related business that a little break, on occasion, can only be beneficial. 

 

 

Firstly, I thoroughly enjoy reading your posts, Chiara. I may disagree with some matters, but you’re always eloquent and humorous. And thank you for your rational acceptance of those with S/P preferences. Very tolerant and rather unusual, from my experience. Hats off to you, and a tugging of forelocks.

 

Episodes like this are a very welcome respite for those of us who are not inclined towards either main couple. I’ve always felt it was far more prudent for sitcoms to source their characters’ romantic interests from outside the main pack (Frasier, Seinfeld, Black Books etc), thereby allowing the greatest number of people to project their own mythologies onto the scenarios. Because there’s no skirting around the fact that that’s what we all do. Certainly in this ballpark.

 

If one hooks up all the central characters with each other on a semi-permanent basis, there will always be fans who feel ostracised, if the relationship chosen for their favourite character has no bearing on their own nature or experience, and they are subjected to episode after episode of it, particularly with the doleful prospect of the future of the canon couples being set in stone.

 

For every chap who identifies with Leonard, and is attracted to Penny, there is another poor fellow who identifies with Sheldon, and is, ditto, attracted to Penny. Or who identifies with Penny, but is attracted to Sheldon, rather than Leonard. Not only do these folk not get a scenario they can identify with, but they must put up with “ships” they are naturally going to be antagonistic towards, and are generally called delusional loony-bins on a fairly repetitive basis, simply for expressing the same preferences as the first man, whose emotions, rather arbitrarily, happen to be canonical.

 

Somewhere out there, there’s a poor sod who identifies with Howard and is attracted to Sheldon. Or vice versa. Or who identifies with Amy and is attracted to Leonard, or Bernadette. They’re going to feel outcast as well. At least the Sheldon-identifying fellow has a large support group of like-minded fans (albeit not on this forum).

 

If one keeps the characters as individuals, whilst allowing them to bond as a group, and treats the romantic interests as fleeting interlopers, it may not be “realistic” to the general plod of life, but it’s ‘just’ to the audience, and more honourable in my opinion, and closer to an allegorical art form. (my general shtick is with the allegorical, in case you’re unaware)

 

Episodes like this one, once in a while, allow those whose romantic interests aren’t represented, to relate to the characters as independent entities once more.

This also does a great deal towards mitigating the pain felt by people who increasingly feel they are being left behind by this show, as it staggers away from the feckless follies of the early seasons, and adopts a determined stride towards marriage, babies and mortgages, none of which have anything to do with the characters and scenarios we were originally drawn to.   

 

That said, I’m delighted by this episode. It seems nostalgic and a little madcap, faintly ridiculous, and innocent. I always like Raj when he’s in benighted playboy mode, and I’m immensely looking forward to seeing the Howard and Amy scenes. Something I very rarely get to say. Amy was attached to my favourite character when I already had an emotional connection between that character and Penny, ergo Amy always seemed redundant and intrusive. I would very much like to appreciate her as an individual, but this necessitates her being detached from Sheldon, whom I firmly believe should remain a solitary creature. “Shenny” for me essentially remains a fanfiction choice, a philosophical concept, or a “have to choose a relationship at gunpoint” sort of deal. They are my favourite relationship on the show, romantic or otherwise, but that doesn’t mean I want to see them buying a bicycle built for two.

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People seem to be forgetting that this show was never just about relationships, it was about friendships as well. You can go back to any season and find plenty of episodes, without a romantic storyline. The problem is, there are too many shippers who are heavily invested in the couples, here. Some of which... not all, are more interesting in the outcome, than the process. So, to these shippers, the relationships are being sidelined. This show always strayed away from the relationships and told other stories inbetween. That's what has kept it so popular because it appeals to more people that way. I'm pleased they are sticking the that formula because this looks like quite a funny episode to me.

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Finally got to read the report and i have to say i cant wait to see this one! I love full cast episodes and i really do love watching Sheldon and Penny paired up (not in the romantic yucky kind of way, although im sure most of you know that!). Its one of the things i really like about this show so i cant wait for that. Looking forward to seeing how the other two teams are together. I'm glad they didn't do couples teams since it means we will get to see how those other characters interact with each other. Especially intrigued about the Howard and Amy pairing.

 

Overall it sounds like a fun episode and i dont really see why some people are freaking out over it. I know there hasn't been much Shamy stuff, and that is a shame, but it will come, and im sure it will be brilliant when it does. As for having this episode about Leonard being back; they done that in the second episode and im sure it wont be the last time it is mentioned. This is only the third episode of the series and so far each episode has the potential to be pretty great and i cant wait to see them all played out on screen.

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Woa. we are definitely watching two different shows. Penny is no closer to Sheldon than she is to Howard or Raj?

 

Didn't she tell Sheldon she loved him and was happy he was in her life? I don't even have the time to go through all the moments since S1 she's helped or been there for Sheldon, or he's showed interest in her as a good friend. Including still hiding the fact he was going to see her and have dinner even after Leonard and Penny broke up. Has Raj or Howard spent the night at Pennys apt? Asked her to take care of them when they were sick?

They (Penn and Sheldon) live across the hall from one another for what we are to believe is going on seven years now, and she's been over Sheldon and Leonard's apt almost everyday since they've met even before dating Leonard.

Yet they are not some what closer than she is with Raj and Howard?

Whatever makes you feel better, I guess.

 

:unsure:

 

 

Not that it's a huge deal but Penny said she loved having Sheldon in her life.  It's a bit different from saying specifically that she loves him.  He did reply that he loved her too but he was just coming down from his dominorgasm so you know as a guy it just came out...

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Not that it's a huge deal but Penny said she loved having Sheldon in her life. It's a bit different from saying specifically that she loves him. He did reply that he loved her too but he was just coming down from his dominorgasm so you know as a guy it just came out...

I'm pretty sure she said she loved Sheldon once before too. In a sort of 'I love you Sheldon but you're crazy' kind of way haha I don't specifically remember the scene but I do remember her saying it.

Penny definitely is closer to Sheldon than Howard and Raj. Not in a more romantic way, but there's no way her relationship with him is on par with the other two guys. I don't see this as a bad thing though. Of course she is going to be closer to him, they have lived across the hall from each other for years. She has spent a lot of time in his apartment during her relationship with Leonard. They are close, like brother and sister and it's cute. She cares about him, and in his weird Sheldon-y way he cares about her too.

Oh and 'as a guy it just came out' I love you for that line Kasey! Haha

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I see this as a stand alone episode that is not related to any other expisode and is done as comedy. They have had these episodes many times before and most of them are funny. It is sort of a surprise that they do it right after the episode Leonard comes home but it does remind me how the episode, after the 'I Love You' had nothing to do with that one either. Pairing Sheldon and Penny in this episode does seemed forced but it reads that she wants to kill him, not kiss him. I have no opinion if it will be a good episode because we don't have the whole story. I sort of think this episode says the writers are done with the North Sea plot now and are moving on. As a Lenny shipper, I am disappointed that this North Sea plot didn't give us anything more for L/P. I can see why Shamy shippers are disappointed because you think Leonard being gone would bring Amy and Sheldon closer, not Penny and Sheldon.

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I'm pretty sure she said she loved Sheldon once before too. In a sort of 'I love you Sheldon but you're crazy' kind of way haha I don't specifically remember the scene but I do remember her saying it.

Penny definitely is closer to Sheldon than Howard and Raj. Not in a more romantic way, but there's no way her relationship with him is on par with the other two guys. I don't see this as a bad thing though. Of course she is going to be closer to him, they have lived across the hall from each other for years. She has spent a lot of time in his apartment during her relationship with Leonard. They are close, like brother and sister and it's cute. She cares about him, and in his weird Sheldon-y way he cares about her too.

Oh and 'as a guy it just came out' I love you for that line Kasey! Haha

 

 

Thanks Molly.  I don't remember her saying that but it would be so like her.  They do (Sheldon and Penny) have a lovely chemistry in the cutest of ways.  I was thinking before that Penny soft of bonding with Raj in the season finale so I would like to see some interaction with Howard too.  I like the whole cast chemistry so the more they can relate to each other, the more enjoyment I get...

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Thanks Molly.  I don't remember her saying that but it would be so like her.  They do (Sheldon and Penny) have a lovely chemistry in the cutest of ways.  I was thinking before that Penny soft of bonding with Raj in the season finale so I would like to see some interaction with Howard too.  I like the whole cast chemistry so the more they can relate to each other, the more enjoyment I get...

216 The Cushion Saturation, " Boy I love him but he is one serious wackadoodle"

Why does everyone misquote her from The Closure Alternative, she actually says " I love that you are in my life" not that she loves him.

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Lol for the record I don't think you can get a grasp of the episode based on the translation of a taping report. It's like reading the script basically, how the dialogue translates onto tv can be very different on tv. I'm not going to judge any of the episodes until I actually see some actual movement :)

I have a differnet humor than you. That could be the reason why I didn`t laugh. I really can`t laugh about every stupid joke.

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216 The Cushion Saturation, " Boy I love him but he is one serious wackadoodle"

Why does everyone misquote her from The Closure Alternative, she actually says " I love that you are in my life" not that she loves him.

 

Okay we knew crazy was in there somewhere..thanks Zhalen

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That said, I’m delighted by this episode. It seems nostalgic and a little madcap, faintly ridiculous, and innocent.

For old persons like me(or those who know older films) I got a feeling of "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World"

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For old persons like me(or those who know older films) I got a feeling of "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World"

 

I got "A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum"....I might not be wise and ancient yet, but my mother weaned me on the Goon Show. Incidentally, when you type "Mad Mad World" into IMDB, it advises you that other people enjoyed "Dirty Rotten Scoundrels". AS WELL THEY SHOULD. One of the greatest comedies in the world, in my pointless opinion.

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I don't think it's all that weird that Leonard and Amy didn't want to be paired with Penny. 5 of 6 competitors are scientist, the person creating the hunt is a scientist, so it would be reasonable to expect a more science based scavenger hunt. Besides even without a science base for the hunt Penny is the lowest IQ in the group, which doesn't mean much considering the group. Penny could easily have a 110 or 115 IQ (above average but not genius-level) which would make her pretty smart compared to most people, but when she hangs out with the group she's probably the only one with an IQ below 150.

 

The real insult to her intelligence comes from Raj. He designed a hunt that really had no intelligence requirement, all the puzzles were simple enough and no real outside knowledge was required, and yet he felt that Penny would be a liability to the point that he had to make everyone a winner. The others thought Penny would be less beneficial to their team in,what they expected would be, a more intellectual challenge, but Raj felt that anyone paired with her would lose despite the simplicity of the challenges

For old persons like me(or those who know older films) I got a feeling of "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World"

A great movie to say the least.

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Okay we knew crazy was in there somewhere..thanks Zhalen

One of my favourites for Leonard's speech ending in , " You are you and you are screwed"

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Guest I'm not dead Cheryl

I think the qualm I have about Penny and Sheldon begin paired again is that the first two eps air on the same night. That being said, we're gonna have two weeks in a row of Penny/Sheldon bickering dynamic that while fun... two weeks in a row... is not that fun.

I wouldn't feel this way if the episodes were more apart between the other, but the feeling I get is that I'm getting Sheldon/Penny every week wether I want it or not.

My other qualm is... they did unusual pairings for the other teams... but WHY not with Sheldon and Penny and insted they chose to put them together AGAIN, after only one ep. I feel there is a lot of wasted potential there.
I would have liked to see Sheldon/Bernadette, Penny/Raj maybe. Or Penny/Howard, or Sheldon/Howard, etc. But no, Sheldon/Penny again, again and again.

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I guess they wanted to keep it boy/girl.  And there has really been no interaction between Amy and Howard so if they built on that premise, there was no other way to go really than Penny/Sheldon and Leonard/Bernie...

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The thing about the episode reports is that every time we get one someone declares it to be the worst episode ever., Someone will complain about how un funny it is. Someone will complain that it has too much of whatever ship that isn't theirs, and someone will complain about not enough of their ship. Then the episode will air and 90+% of the complaints will turn out to be overblown. But by then another report will be up and we'll be doing it all over again. So please chill enjoy the early info. and wait to see how it turns out to bitch about what you didn't like. Yeah, like that's gonna happen.

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I don't think it's all that weird that Leonard and Amy didn't want to be paired with Penny. 5 of 6 competitors are scientist, the person creating the hunt is a scientist, so it would be reasonable to expect a more science based scavenger hunt. Besides even without a science base for the hunt Penny is the lowest IQ in the group, which doesn't mean much considering the group. Penny could easily have a 110 or 115 IQ (above average but not genius-level) which would make her pretty smart compared to most people, but when she hangs out with the group she's probably the only one with an IQ below 150.

 

The real insult to her intelligence comes from Raj. He designed a hunt that really had no intelligence requirement, all the puzzles were simple enough and no real outside knowledge was required, and yet he felt that Penny would be a liability to the point that he had to make everyone a winner. The others thought Penny would be less beneficial to their team in,what they expected would be, a more intellectual challenge, but Raj felt that anyone paired with her would lose despite the simplicity of the challenges

A great movie to say the least.

But two scientists together isn't really an advantage over one scientist and Penny.  I think all of them overanalyzed it especiallly Raj. They wouldn't have been any futher along no matter how much science was involved. It came to an actual "race" to the end. That's a scavenger hunt. Penny would beat them all everytime.

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