Spoilers S7 Spoilers

[menamena]

Phanta: What do you mean actual spoilers? The taping reports are posted in the taping thread - this thread is for discussion of spoilers and I honestly don't see anything wrong with the current conversation. L/P are just the current topic of interest - once new spoilers come out, discussions will naturally shift. I don't see the need to unnecessarily police the conversations in this thread because no-one's doing anything wrong. Also, I really don't think a forum format is designed for searchability - this thread in particular always has heaps of discussions after every episode where earlier spoilers naturally get buried being organized chronologically. However, there's also a "search" button in this forum designed for people who don't want to wade through multiple pages. We can also have a poster - say Chloe have one post on the page where she keeps updating all the small tidbits from the show.

Edited September 20, 2013 by menamena

[tmp]

This ep might be a Parking Lot style one as far as L/P involvement is concerned. I like that Howard is giving Amy (and Sheldon?) advice about her and Sheldon's professional boundaries though. I wonder whether they are bonding for good after 7x03

 

Wait, I must be missing something.  I read the link but didn't see anything about Howard giving Amy advice, or about Amy feeling smothered.  Was there another spoiler?

[JonRS92]

But I think that generally the Shamy venting, especially the hardcore Shamy-only discussions, happen in the Shamy thread, where they should.  But most of the L/P conversation that has happened in this thread lately is more about the history and the ups and downs of L/P, not directly related to the actual spoilers.

 

All I'm saying is that the actual spoilers are harder and harder to find because there's 20 pages of The History of Leonard and Penny.

 

Not to mention that spoilers themselves are kind of hard to come by.  We get them with the taping reports and such, but it is real easy for discussions for those to evolve into including more than just those spoilers.  In a week we will have new material and it doesn't look like it will be about L/P

Wait, I must be missing something.  I read the link but didn't see anything about Howard giving Amy advice, or about Amy feeling smothered.  Was there another spoiler?

 

Yes, I didn't read anything about that either.

[koops]

Wait, I must be missing something.  I read the link but didn't see anything about Howard giving Amy advice, or about Amy feeling smothered.  Was there another spoiler?

 

The first line of the side has Sheldon saying "As Howard advised, she is merely respecting our professional boundaries."

 

I think the smothering bit in the E! article is a bit of an exaggeration, but I think they're referring to the fact that Sheldon is going over to her table and telling her colleagues about their relationship. 

[rachelshamyfan]

Its like he's marking his territory, which is fair enough he already had to fight off Stuart!

[Chrismo]

But I think that generally the Shamy venting, especially the hardcore Shamy-only discussions, happen in the Shamy thread, where they should.  But most of the L/P conversation that has happened in this thread lately is more about the history and the ups and downs of L/P, not directly related to the actual spoilers.

 

All I'm saying is that the actual spoilers are harder and harder to find because there's 20 pages of The History of Leonard and Penny.

Bu then again and it nots you but when the hardcore Shamy discussions do appear her you have to go through pages and pages  of picture of Sheldon and Amy.

[phantagrae]

Phanta: What do you mean actual spoilers? The taping reports are posted in the taping thread - this thread is for discussion of spoilers and I honestly don't see anything wrong with the current conversation. L/P are just the current topic of interest - once new spoilers come out, discussions will naturally shift. I don't see the need to unnecessarily police the conversations in this thread because no-one's doing anything wrong. Also, I really don't think a forum format is designed for searchability - this thread in particular always has heaps of discussions after every episode where earlier spoilers naturally get buried being organized chronologically. However, there's also a "search" button in this forum designed for people who don't want to wade through multiple pages. We can also have a poster - say Chloe have one post on the page where she keeps updating all the small tidbits from the show.

 

Well, the latest taping reports have been posted as links in this thread, way back around p.50-something.  I just dug them up for someone who wanted to see the reports for 7x3 and 7x4.

We have had more snippets, like the sides for 7x5.

And I don't know that the L/P relationship in the larger sense, which is what the last several pages have been about, are really the main focus of the most recent spoilers.  It's certainly what the L/P folks are most interested in, and that's fine, but all I'm saying is that this same conversation is going on in the L/P thread as well as here.  I think that the Shamy-focused conversation related to the spoiler information is mostly confined to the Shamy Spoilers thread.

 

There are always lots of new posts in this thread, but almost none of them have to do with any kind of new information related to the spoilers we've gotten except for the latest posts related to the quote that chloe posted.

 

I'm not talking about putting people in a straightjacket, but I think that it would be better, especially as we go forward, if we can keep protracted conversations related to specific couples to their designated threads, since we have those threads for a reason.

If the L/P Spoilers and Shamy Spoilers threads didn't exist, then, yeah, all the conversation about the couples would be here, but we have specific threads designed for in-depth conversations about the couples both spoiler-related and spoiler-free.

Bu then again and it nots you but when the hardcore Shamy discussions do appear her you have to go through pages and pages  of picture of Sheldon and Amy.

 

Well, if that's really true, then that's an issue as well that could be corrected.  We all have places to gush and vent for specific couples.

 

And of course we're all going to discuss and speculate on the spoilers, but I think that if you look back over the last several pages, a lot of the Lenny conversation isn't really about spoilers--and again, there's already a place for such conversations.

[stardustmelody]

Army-Girl...I think Kaley is having a ball filming the movie based on her tweets.   She seems very excited about her role.   It sounds like a cute comedy.  It will be interesting to see if she gets interviewed anytime soon about the role.  It is nice to see her so happy. 

 

I do hope that with a little less Penny in scenes it means that Leonard can be interacting more with Sheldon and the guys.  I sort of miss that side of Leonard.  

 

Koops...you are right about the exaggeration from E! spoiler.   I think that was an "interpretation" they made.  I don't see any evidence of Amy feeling "smothered".  She may be embarrassed or annoyed, but I think she also is a little tickled underneath it all because he admitted to them having a "physical" relationship and now she can remind him of his own words.     Likewise Sheldon is the one being advised by Howard (if you call it advice), not Amy.   I also think this is a bit like Parking Spot episode in that it is a very funny and entertaining episode that feature Shamy and Howardette a bit more, but we likely will see a little L/P somewhere in the episode.

 

Rachelshamyfan..he is definitely marking his territory.  Sheldon is so predictable. I love how he is so protective of "his woman". 

 

re: Phanta's point...I believe that taping reports are one form of spoilers (and I am glad we have a Taping report thread for those), but there are also spoilers that come from the press that get posted here in this thread.   There were threads for each of the couples created (spoiler and spoiler-free versions even), so I do agree that because there are multiple types of spoilers that can be posted here, that when the conversation becomes too close to what the other threads were created for, it makes sense to move them over to those threads.   It does make it difficult to find spoilers otherwise.  I don't have an issues with conversations taking place in the spoiler thread, as long as they relate to the spoilers, but otherwise if they are specific to a given couple, then it makes sense to move it to that couples thread.   It just makes it easier for others to find the actual spoilers that way.  I don't think policing things are what we want but it is more a request of being courteous and thinking of how hard it is to weed through pages of conversation to find one spoiler among them.  That make sense?

Edited September 20, 2013 by stardustmelody

[Carlos]

There's ALWAYS concern in the L/P thread that they writers are messing with them again.  That's the never-ending song over there--and now it's been brought here.  *sigh*

 

Everybody worries about the ship they support, don't they? I don't what's your problem with that ...

[ArmyGirl]

Army-Girl...I think Kaley is having a ball filming the movie based on her tweets.   She seems very excited about her role.   It sounds like a cute comedy.  It will be interesting to see if she gets interviewed anytime soon about the role.  It is nice to see her so happy. 

 

I do hope that with a little less Penny in scenes it means that Leonard can be interacting more with Sheldon and the guys.  I sort of miss that side of Leonard.  

 

 

......

 

 

I think it would be nice if Leonard could finally have a storyline that is focus on him, something that rarely happens imo. I feel it should be okay to let him have a storyline that isn't about relationship or taking care of Sheldon.

 

I love that Kaley is having a great time and hope we great some interviews from her about the movie.

[menamena]

Well, the latest taping reports have been posted as links in this thread, way back around p.50-something.  I just dug them up for someone who wanted to see the reports for 7x3 and 7x4.

We have had more snippets, like the sides for 7x5.

And I don't know that the L/P relationship in the larger sense, which is what the last several pages have been about, are really the main focus of the most recent spoilers.  It's certainly what the L/P folks are most interested in, and that's fine, but all I'm saying is that this same conversation is going on in the L/P thread as well as here.  I think that the Shamy-focused conversation related to the spoiler information is mostly confined to the Shamy Spoilers thread.

 

There are always lots of new posts in this thread, but almost none of them have to do with any kind of new information related to the spoilers we've gotten except for the latest posts related to the quote that chloe posted.

 

I'm not talking about putting people in a straightjacket, but I think that it would be better, especially as we go forward, if we can keep protracted conversations related to specific couples to their designated threads, since we have those threads for a reason.

If the L/P Spoilers and Shamy Spoilers threads didn't exist, then, yeah, all the conversation about the couples would be here, but we have specific threads designed for in-depth conversations about the couples both spoiler-related and spoiler-free.

But where is the line? You're just arbitrarily deciding the L/P discussion is too much and should be shifted to the Lenny spoilers thread whereas I see the conversation as naturally arising from the spoilers of the last couple of episodes. It's not like the Lenny discussion is stifling other topics of interest in this thread - there simply aren't any at this point because the current topic of interest is the L/P situation.

 

I also think it's rather ridiculous to police such general threads and demarcate postings about couples strictly to couples thread - It's not like this thread disallows fans from discussing spoilers of their favorite couples - Goodness, us Shamy fans completely monopolized the spoilers thread when TLSP came out, I remember you also participated in some of that - where were you then to tell us to shift discussions to the Shamy spoilers thread? I don't think the discussion was wrong then, and I don't think it is wrong now. You don't like the current topic of discussion? Either ignore it or talk about something else. 

[phantagrae]

Everybody worries about the ship they support, don't they? I don't what's your problem with that ...

 

I guess it's just boring to me to read post after post about how the axe is going to drop any minute and how everything is doom and gloom.  I love L/P, too, but no matter what comes out in spoilers or in episodes, it seems that some people can't see anything other than some dark version, always looking for the most negative spin to put on any information.

 

And then, as I've said, it's not just in the Lenny thread, but it's here, too.  There's no escaping the doom and gloom. 

 

I don't have a problem with it, it just gets old after a while.

But where is the line? You're just arbitrarily deciding the L/P discussion is too much and should be shifted to the Lenny spoilers thread whereas I see the conversation as naturally arising from the spoilers of the last couple of episodes. It's not like the Lenny discussion is stifling other topics of interest in this thread - there simply aren't any at this point because the current topic of interest is the L/P situation.

 

I also think it's rather ridiculous to police such general threads and demarcate postings about couples strictly to couples thread - It's not like this thread disallows fans from discussing spoilers of their favorite couples - Goodness, us Shamy fans completely monopolized the spoilers thread when TLSP came out, I remember you also participated in some of that - where were you then to tell us to shift discussions to the Shamy spoilers thread? I don't think the discussion was wrong then, and I don't think it is wrong now. You don't like the current topic of discussion? Either ignore it or talk about something else. 

 

Whatever.  Sorry I ever brought it up.

[bigbangsheldon]

i think that regardless of what couple/pairing/friendship people are discussing in here, if it's about spoilers then it's not exactly wrong for them to do it in here.

[phantagrae]

i think that regardless of what couple/pairing/friendship people are discussing in here, if it's about spoilers then it's not exactly wrong for them to do it in here.

 

Well, that was what my original issue was about--how much of the current conversation here is actually about spoilers.  But apparently I'm the only one who feels that way, so it doesn't matter.

[stardustmelody]

I think it would be nice if Leonard could finally have a storyline that is focus on him, something that rarely happens imo. I feel it should be okay to let him have a storyline that isn't about relationship or taking care of Sheldon.

 

I love that Kaley is having a great time and hope we great some interviews from her about the movie.

 

Yes, Leonard does deserve a good story of his own, but I think the writers assume the ship excursion was one of his own stories.  However, the problem with that assumption (dear writers) is that we never did get to hear him talk about what he learned, etc.  Maybe that is coming still, but it seemed like it was more about the relationships and how they handled his absence and return than about what he actually learned and how it affects his career  .   I also think they bring up his mother and feel that is related to his own story.   I get what you are saying though...it never quite feels like he really has a "real story".

[AdorkablyMe]

WOO!!  Looking forward to next Thursday =P

[koops]

 

Koops...you are right about the exaggeration from E! spoiler.   I think that was an "interpretation" they made.  I don't see any evidence of Amy feeling "smothered".  She may be embarrassed or annoyed, but I think she also is a little tickled underneath it all because he admitted to them having a "physical" relationship and now she can remind him of his own words.     Likewise Sheldon is the one being advised by Howard (if you call it advice), not Amy.   I also think this is a bit like Parking Spot episode in that it is a very funny and entertaining episode that feature Shamy and Howardette a bit more, but we likely will see a little L/P somewhere in the episode.

 

 

I thought Howard advised both because he says "As Howard advised, SHE is merely respecting our professional boundaries". It sounds as if Howard advised them both as a couple or something. Otherwise he'd be saying "I am merely respecting our professional boundaries"

 

I guess it's just boring to me to read post after post about how the axe is going to drop any minute and how everything is doom and gloom.  I love L/P, too, but no matter what comes out in spoilers or in episodes, it seems that some people can't see anything other than some dark version, always looking for the most negative spin to put on any information.

 

And then, as I've said, it's not just in the Lenny thread, but it's here, too.  There's no escaping the doom and gloom. 

 

I don't have a problem with it, it just gets old after a while.

 

Yes, but to say that people shouldn't discuss something because you find it boring is a bit rude, IMO. I mean, like I said, it's one thing if there is one person trying to troll the conversation when everyone wants to talk about something else. But if the majority are happy with the current discussion and you tell them to talk about something else or take it to their thread, it's like walking in a room and saying "You bore me, talk about something else". I've noticed over the past weeks that this thread was very active with L/P fans and I just stayed out of it because I'm not particularly interested in discussing L/P (that, and I've been busy with deadlines to keep up with spoilers... but anyway). To be fair, there isn't much else to talk about right now either.

Edited September 20, 2013 by koops

[Carlos]

Yes, but to say that people shouldn't discuss something because you find it boring is a bit rude, IMO. I mean, like I said, it's one thing if there is one person trying to troll the conversation when everyone wants to talk about something else. But if the majority are happy with the current discussion and you tell them to talk about something else or take it to their thread, it's like walking in a room and saying "You bore me, talk about something else". I've noticed over the past weeks that this thread was very active with L/P fans and I just stayed out of it because I'm not particularly interested in discussing L/P (that, and I've been busy with deadlines to keep up with spoilers... but anyway). To be fair, there isn't much else to talk about right now either.

 

Thank you!

[bigbangsheldon]

oh. i do have permission to post in the locked area. i will put the taping reports there now

[SRAM]

If Amy hangs around Cal Tech for a little while, do you think the writers will have her learn about the smack Sheldon was spreading about their sex life. Kripke dropping a few suggestive comments when she walks by or when she is with Sheldon, maybe?

[phantagrae]

oh. i do have permission to post in the locked area. i will put the taping reports there now

 

Thank you, Chloe!!

[koops]

If Amy hangs around Cal Tech for a little while, do you think the writers will have her learn about the smack Sheldon was spreading about their sex life. Kripke dropping a few suggestive comments when she walks by or when she is with Sheldon, maybe?

 

It's possible and that was definitely the first thing I thought when I heard about this spoiler. But now I wonder how they would play it out. Before 6x23 I thought they could have used that as a catalyst for them to have "The Talk", with Amy getting pissed off and confronting him about it. But they had "The Talk" in 6x23, so now it seems a bit pointless to spin it that way. I don't think Amy getting angry about her reputation (as much as that seems a fan favorite) would make much sense since Sheldon didn't spread any bad rumors about her, he just let Kripke believe they have an awesome sex life and he got bored with that quite quickly when Kripke started pestering him. So I don't know where that scenario would go. If it doesn't lead to drama, then it needs to lead to comedy. Amy going along with it? Unless things have spiraled out of control off-screen and Sheldon has been escalating in his lies to Kripke, I think at most we might see Kripke make an isolated comment about it and Amy have this puzzled look on her face with Sheldon having a mild panic and for it to end there and never be talked about again, sort of like an in-joke. But who knows.

[arash]

I've just read the 7×04 spoilers and I wanna add something around this thing between L/P(which I think it's not kind of drama at all) I think it's not a bad idea to have a little dramas in comedy series sometimes! in fact it's necessary for a good comedy show like tbbt.and we rarely see good dramas in tbbt !for example in 6×02 when penny says that she is bored with leonard she does not explain what does she mean exactly and why she feels like that !and after that writers just ignore it ( like it never happened) and fix it with Alex!!! it's like penny isn't bored after Alex came in the show !( this reminds me Bollywood movies lovestories LoL)! also I wonder why they don't involve other family member of characters specially Leonard and penny! they can make a lot fun storylines around Leonard and his brother who has just come to visit him for example ... they had done this around raj (priya) but poor Leonard we have seen his mother only . and also penny , we have seen her dad only . they should make new stories not again make stories around Sheldon acts weird around stuff. we have seen this things for years!!! Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 4

Edited September 20, 2013 by arash

[JonRS92]

Koops...you are right about the exaggeration from E! spoiler.   I think that was an "interpretation" they made.  I don't see any evidence of Amy feeling "smothered".  She may be embarrassed or annoyed, but I think she also is a little tickled underneath it all because he admitted to them having a "physical" relationship and now she can remind him of his own words.     Likewise Sheldon is the one being advised by Howard (if you call it advice), not Amy.   I also think this is a bit like Parking Spot episode in that it is a very funny and entertaining episode that feature Shamy and Howardette a bit more, but we likely will see a little L/P somewhere in the episode.

 

One thing I have discovered recently is that entertainment sites like E! or TVGuide are horrible places to try and get any info.  Before I found this site and was looking for spoilers I found stuff about 7.1 that made it out like Leonard was had forgotten all about Penny and that Penny and Sheldon were getting romantically closer.  That was way off base and part of me thinks they had to know that when they wrote it.  They even had a quote from the writers about a Shenny romance where they have one of the writers saying he didn't think that would happen this season.  Think?  I find it hard to believe that the writer ever said that because it seems so far off base to even open up the possibility of that.  Long story-short, I don't trust entertainment sites.

 

If Amy hangs around Cal Tech for a little while, do you think the writers will have her learn about the smack Sheldon was spreading about their sex life. Kripke dropping a few suggestive comments when she walks by or when she is with Sheldon, maybe?

 

Oh God, I hope so.  That will be so funny

 

It's possible and that was definitely the first thing I thought when I heard about this spoiler. But now I wonder how they would play it out. Before 6x23 I thought they could have used that as a catalyst for them to have "The Talk", with Amy getting pissed off and confronting him about it. But they had "The Talk" in 6x23, so now it seems a bit pointless to spin it that way. I don't think Amy getting angry about her reputation (as much as that seems a fan favorite) would make much sense since Sheldon didn't spread any bad rumors about her, he just let Kripke believe they have an awesome sex life and he got bored with that quite quickly when Kripke started pestering him. So I don't know where that scenario would go. If it doesn't lead to drama, then it needs to lead to comedy. Amy going along with it? Unless things have spiraled out of control off-screen and Sheldon has been escalating in his lies to Kripke, I think at most we might see Kripke make an isolated comment about it and Amy have this puzzled look on her face with Sheldon having a mild panic and for it to end there and never be talked about again, sort of like an in-joke. But who knows.

 

Another interesting possibility that is not too far OOC for Amy is that she might take that as a compliment.

I've just read the 7×04 spoilers and I wanna add something around this thing between L/P(which I think it's not kind of drama at all) I think it's not a bad idea to have a little dramas in comedy series sometimes! in fact it's necessary for a good comedy show like tbbt.and we rarely see good dramas in tbbt !for example in 6×02 when penny says that she is bored with leonard she does not explain what does she mean exactly and why she feels like that !and after that writers just ignore it ( like it never happened) and fix it with Alex!!! it's like penny isn't bored after Alex came in the show !( this reminds me Bollywood movies lovestories LoL)! also I wonder why they don't involve other family member of characters specially Leonard and penny! they can make a lot fun storylines around Leonard and his brother who has just come to visit him for example ... they had done this around raj (priya) but poor Leonard we have seen his mother only . and also penny , we have seen her dad only . they should make new stories not again make stories around Sheldon acts weird around stuff. we have seen this things for years!!! Sent from my HTC One X+ using Tapatalk 4

 

I think Amy actually addresses your first point in 6.3.  Despite the fact that Penny has seen Leonard with other women, I don't think she believes that there is any need to worry as long as she is Leonard's girlfriend.  To be fair there is some reason for her to think that way.  Maybe the idea of a guy she doesn't have to work to keep is boring to her.  Although I still put forth that what she thought was boredom was actually her feeling mutual love for the first time.  In 6.3 Amy points out to Penny that the fact that another girl is hitting on Leonard is subconsciously telling Penny that Leonard is desirable and probably increasing her desire for him.

Edited September 20, 2013 by JonRS92

[Chrismo]

 

 

 

Another interesting possibility that is not too far OOC for Amy is that she might take that as a compliment.

You may be right but there is another possibility. Amy may get mad at Penny since Penny knows all about. Espicially if their suppose to be "besties".