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I posted a new Hollywood Reporter article about S7 but since it had a bit of "spoilerish" stuff in it, I put it under S7 Spoilers thread for those who want to read it.

 

Also posted the TV Guide write up from the event there as well.

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I was just watching the CBS preview the new shows. They were showing a clip for Chuck Lorre's new series, Mom. In the clip Anna Farris' character is being put down by some an upper class type character. Playing the character was Courtney Henggeler, who played Sheldon's sister. The first Big Bang Theory connection to the new show.

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It was reported in August that those three were looking at 1million per episode, but I can see them taking $750,000 and syndication increases. TBBT will pull in between 270-320 million in ad revenue this year. With a over a half a point increase, something no other entertainment show did(most fell over a half a point)in the 18-49 demo, their 30 second add rate should be somewhere between 350-400 thousand. It was 276,000 this past year. At 750k for the three and 500k for the others, that's about 100 million for the year, for salaries. That leaves about 170-220 million for everyone else. I know, I feel sorry for them too.

You can probably take anything reported as salary requests with a grain of salt. at this point, I'd think a bigger piece of the syndication money would be more important and valuable.

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Remember that the media also sensationalizes things.   While they may be going in with a certain figure, they are clearly going to start high knowing that they are going to have to negotiate down.  I don't think any of them honestly expect they will be granted that amount.   I do think they are likely to get increases from where they were, but I would be surprised if they got anything close to that high given where others are being paid.  A lot goes into balancing the pay with perks, and loyalty comes in there as well.   I also don't know how much of it will hold up if one gets stubborn but two want to agree to some term and sign.  I don't understand these deals where they all go in as one group.   Until Friends that was pretty unheard of.   But I would think that at some point one of them would want to stay with the show and want to bow out if another one was being stubborn and greedy.  Likewise they all have different representatives so I am not sure how that all holds up.

 

 

How are they needy baby, greedy baby?  As for Mayim she wasn't there from the start.

 

It doesn't matter as much how long you have been with a show.  For example, Ashton was not with Two and a Half Men since the beginning, yet got a sweet deal for each episode.   What matters is what you bring to the table.  Mayim had a lot of experience (more than Jim actually) coming to the table and she is a two time Emmy nominee now.   She also has brought a lot to the role and turned the role into a real character (using the producers words, not mine).   She took something that they were going to have as a short-term role initially and made it so compelling that they put her on contract.   So clearly she brings a lot to the show.   I think the point that some people are making is that in the network market, no one is nearing the amount of money they are asking.   But as I said above, the media is hyping this to make them appear a bit greedy.   They are on a top show, but all of them are reasonable people.  I don't see them being unreasonable when it comes to final negotiation.  I think they will hold as high as they can get (and why shouldn't they?), but they also know that keeping employed is also important and they all want to stick with the show.  So I doubt they will end up getting what they go in with, but they will likely see increases.

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Remember that the media also sensationalizes things.   While they may be going in with a certain figure, they are clearly going to start high knowing that they are going to have to negotiate down.  I don't think any of them honestly expect they will be granted that amount.   I do think they are likely to get increases from where they were, but I would be surprised if they got anything close to that high given where others are being paid.  A lot goes into balancing the pay with perks, and loyalty comes in there as well.   I also don't know how much of it will hold up if one gets stubborn but two want to agree to some term and sign.  I don't understand these deals where they all go in as one group.   Until Friends that was pretty unheard of.   But I would think that at some point one of them would want to stay with the show and want to bow out if another one was being stubborn and greedy.  Likewise they all have different representatives so I am not sure how that all holds up.

 

 

It doesn't matter as much how long you have been with a show.  For example, Ashton was not with Two and a Half Men since the beginning, yet got a sweet deal for each episode.   What matters is what you bring to the table.  Mayim had a lot of experience (more than Jim actually) coming to the table and she is a two time Emmy nominee now.   She also has brought a lot to the role and turned the role into a real character (using the producers words, not mine).   She took something that they were going to have as a short-term role initially and made it so compelling that they put her on contract.   So clearly she brings a lot to the show.   I think the point that some people are making is that in the network market, no one is nearing the amount of money they are asking.   But as I said above, the media is hyping this to make them appear a bit greedy.   They are on a top show, but all of them are reasonable people.  I don't see them being unreasonable when it comes to final negotiation.  I think they will hold as high as they can get (and why shouldn't they?), but they also know that keeping employed is also important and they all want to stick with the show.  So I doubt they will end up getting what they go in with, but they will likely see increases.

Ashton Kutcher was signed on to play a principle character, not a supporting character like Mayim's Amy Farrah Fowler.

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Star, do you, do you remember the renegtiation, in 2010? Johnny, Jim, and Kaley started out sticking together. Jim decided to break away and tried to get more. WB told him he would get what the other two got, that was the offer. He gave in and took it. Simon and Kunal got about half what the other three got, with Simon getting a bit more. I know this will shock a lot of people, but Mayim and Melissa are around $50-60k. Which is pretty standard for a first main cast contract, for relative unknowns. Remember, those contracts were offered to the two back in season four. So there already is a large discrepancy in pay.

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Star, do you, do you remember the renegtiation, in 2010? Johnny, Jim, and Kaley started out sticking together. Jim decided to break away and tried to get more. WB told him he would get what the other two got, that was the offer. He gave in and took it. Simon and Kunal got about half what the other three got, with Simon getting a bit more. I know this will shock a lot of people, but Mayim and Melissa are around $50-60k. Which is pretty standard for a first main cast contract, for relative unknowns. Remember, those contracts were offered to the two back in season four. So there already is a large discrepancy in pay.

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You think they'll keep holding off the next contract with them much longer? Wait out to see what early ratings are or something else?

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I just hope it all settles soon.   I know there is a discrepancy already.  Mayim though is not motivated by money.  She has made that abundantly clear.  That does not mean, however, she may not deserve more than what she is being paid.   I think the discrepancy will always be there to a certain extent.  Simon definitely deserves more as well.   I am not sure WB will come close to agreeing to a number that high (as originally quoted wanting $1Mil per episode), however.   I would be surprised if they did.   While it may be the number one show and they certainly are a great cast, they are pretty ruthless negotiators.   My guess is the actors will have to back down some if not about half.   Even if they  (all three) are paid $500,000 per episode, that is NOTHING to sneeze at.   LOL!  

 

I just hope they get it all settled soon because that will a huge determining factor on how many more seasons the show goes.   I would hate for the to not be able to finish story lines or to rush them, but that could happen if they hit a stalemate.  

 

By the way, all of you who feel Kaley is underpaid ($11Mil) , she is making over a million more a year than Tina Fey ($10Mil) ,  four million more than Amy Poehler ($7Mil), and five million more than Courtney Cox ($6 Mil).  Just to put things in perspective.   The person way overpaid, in my opinion, is Sofia Vergara ($30Mil annually). 

 

Numbers came from http://blogs.indiewire.com/womenandhollywood/forbes-announces-top-female-earners-on-television

 

Update:  I see now articles saying they are negotiating for $500,000 per episode. I  believe they can actually achieve that.  That seems fair and reasonable in the industry given the strength of ratings this show has.

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No, I just think the negotiations are more complicated than it appears. You have CBS, WB, Chuck Lorre Productions, and not just the actors, but the crew to deal with. Don't forget they were renewed through season 7 and all the contracts probably expire with the end of this season. So there's a lot more going on then just renewing and paying the actors. There would be a new syndication deal that would have to be worked out also for anything after season 7. Don't forget, the last renewal was announced in January.

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It was reported in August that those three were looking at 1million per episode, but I can see them taking $750,000 and syndication increases. TBBT will pull in between 270-320 million in ad revenue this year. With a over a half a point increase, something no other entertainment show did(most fell over a half a point)in the 18-49 demo, their 30 second add rate should be somewhere between 350-400 thousand. It was 276,000 this past year. At 750k for the three and 500k for the others, that's about 100 million for the year, for salaries. That leaves about 170-220 million for everyone else. I know, I feel sorry for them too.

You can probably take anything reported as salary requests with a grain of salt. at this point, I'd think a bigger piece of the syndication money would be more important and valuable.

how would the syndication money work.

do they all shared it(simon.kunal) or jim,jonney,kaley,

get the most, and when or if do melissa or mayim

get a share or do they start @season 4 they be came

part of the main group.

thanks

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how would the syndication money work.

do they all shared it(simon.kunal) or jim,jonney,kaley,

get the most, and when or if do melissa or mayim

get a share or do they start @season 4 they be came

part of the main group.

thanks

 

Oftentimes stars will ask for "percentage points" as part of their salary package, which means that they get a certain percentage of the ongoing profits made as episodes are sold into syndication.  And that's in addition to whatever they get as risiduals (ongoing pay for whenever an episode is aired.)

Any of the actors can request syndication points.  Whether or not they can get them or how much depends on their negotiations, etc.

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Oftentimes stars will ask for "percentage points" as part of their salary package, which means that they get a certain percentage of the ongoing profits made as episodes are sold into syndication.  And that's in addition to whatever they get as risiduals (ongoing pay for whenever an episode is aired.)

Any of the actors can request syndication points.  Whether or not they can get them or how much depends on their negotiations, etc.

thanks -it helps

i read that jim was making 325,000

but i know that jim, johnny, kaley made 300,000,

so did he get a extra "percentage point" to make

more money that the other 2

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thanks -it helps

i read that jim was making 325,000

but i know that jim, johnny, kaley made 300,000,

so did he get a extra "percentage point" to make

more money that the other 2

I don't think he's making more than the others and I don't think he currently gets points. I think the $325,000 number is wrong.

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‘Big Bang’ Co-Stars Mayim Bialik & Melissa Rauch Get Major Salary Bumps As Show Faces License Fee & More Cast Negotiations

By NELLIE ANDREEVA | Wednesday September 18, 2013 @ 12:34pm
 
EXCLUSIVE: The newest additions to the cast of CBS‘ hit comedy The Big Bang Theory have scored nice salary bumps. I’ve learned that Mayim Bialik and Melissa Rauch — regulars on Big Bang since fall 2010 having started off as guest starring-turned-recurring players on the popular comedy — have both renegotiated their current salaries, which have been in the $20,000-$30,000 range per episode. No one is commenting but I hear the duo will be making about double that, in the neighborhood of $60,000, this coming season, with their pay steadily increasing every year to reach close to $100,000 an episode by the end of their contracts. As a result of the renegotiation, I hear Bialik and Rauch also have added a year to their current deals.

 

It is going to be a big season behind-the-scenes at Big Bang, which, six years into its run, is firing on all cylinders. Over the next eight months, Big Bang faces license fee negotiations as the series is currently renewed by CBS through this season, as well as contract negotiations with the entire original cast, whose deals also are all up at the end of this season. With the series doing so well and eying a potential strong showing at the Emmys this weekend, none of these is going to be easy. Like the salary renegotiations in 2010, leads Johnny Galecki, Jim Parsons and Kaley Cuoco are expected to negotiate in one group and Simon Helberg and Kunal Nayyar in another. Observers expect Galecki, Parsons and Cuoco, currently at $350,000 an episode, to land north of $500,000 when it’s all said and done.

 

Big Bang is coming off its highest-rated season ever with a string of series highs. It is a mega hit for two networks, CBS and TBS, which airs it in off-network syndication, and a golden goose for producer Warner Bros TV.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/09/big-bang-theory-mayim-bialik-melissa-rauch-pay-raises/

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