Spoilers The Shamy - Season 7 Spoilers Only Discussion Thread

[Susana Alcira]

I don´t think she is SOOO SHY! Remember last season ep 9 and 10! She had no problem in raising her skirt and showing him her bikini wax, and she was very happy when he helped her to take a bath (naked???) I repeat again: SHE IS GREAT! (I love SHAMY a lot!)

[nopenopenope]

I think we have a lot of evidence that Amy isn't acting like she is because she is playing some clever tricks so he can feel in the lead but that it's just inexperience. Mayim herself said that about the D&D ep last year, that they played her in such a way that it made it clear that although she can be very blunt and pushy she gets stumped and shy when confronted with real intimacy. And it makes perfect sense knowing this is her first ever boyfriend. I just don't think Amy has the knowledge nor experience to do anything more than sprout sex jokes and big words. In a way, she is a lot like a teenage boy, all sex jokes and no substance.

I'm sure with time she will get the hang of things and start loosening up. And it will be fun to watch that happen.

I don't know if I'd call it a clever trick. I was just thinking maybe since she knows Sheldon is a little skittish that she might not wanna freak him out since he's already going far enough to kiss her... she definitely doesn't want it to stop! I mean she has kissed HIM before on her own... but it is different now that it's initiated by Sheldon. So she is a little nervous for sure. I'm excited to see her loosen up! I'm glad there are going to be many steps to Shamy kisses. Every single one will be special! (They would have been anyhow, of course!)

I don´t think she is SOOO SHY! Remember last season ep 9 and 10! She had no problem in raising her skirt and showing him her bikini wax, and she was very happy when he helped her to take a bath (naked???) I repeat again: SHE IS GREAT! (I love SHAMY a lot!)

Haha I watched that episode yesterday... so funny. "I think you're high on paint fumes!"

Edited April 4, 2014 by tyleranne

[stardustmelody]

Can we just take a moment and appreciate how adorable Amy is?   Look at her shyness here on whether to touch his back  She so wants to comfort him but still is shy about touching him in that way

 

 

 

Edited April 4, 2014 by stardustmelody

[koops]

Obviously, I don't think it's an all-or-nothing thing. She isn't always shy just as she isn't always nervous. She can be bold when she's in charge but she is shy and nervous when she's not the one in control.

And also, there is a difference between not knowing where the lines of appropriateness are (like with Penny back in the day or with the bikini wax, which I always saw as her showing off something cool like she had just gotten a tattoo done or something, rather than coming onto him) and being confident during sexual intimacy stuff. Like I said, this is the real deal, which she has no experience of, whereas all those other teases were not amounting to anything and often just for comedy.

Sheldon obviously appears to be enjoying being in charge so far (and all this kissing business ), so I don't think touching him would scare him off at this stage, especially given how much they are touching anyway at the moment. She didn't have a problem leaning onto him later for example. So if she's not touching him while kissing I think it's more a short-circuit thing/lack of experience (she literally doesn't know how to do it yet) , than something intentional so he doesn't get scared off.

[nopenopenope]

Sheldon obviously appears to be enjoying being in charge so far (and all this kissing business ), so I don't think touching him would scare him off at this stage, especially given how much they are touching anyway at the moment. She didn't have a problem leaning onto him later for example. So if she's not touching him while kissing I think it's more a short-circuit thing/lack of experience (she literally doesn't know how to do it yet) , than something intentional so he doesn't get scared off.

 

Good Point!

[stardustmelody]

The promo for the next episode:

Amy:  I don't want other girls to see him walking around like sex on a stick

Sheldon:  She's right, I'm too hot

 

I love this little tidbit because SHELDON AGREES!  He doesn't want other women noticing him either...just Amy!   I love it! 

[Anita Rez]

Good Point!

 

Sheldon obviously appears to be enjoying being in charge so far (and all this kissing business ), so I don't think touching him would scare him off at this stage, especially given how much they are touching anyway at the moment. She didn't have a problem leaning onto him later for example. So if she's not touching him while kissing I think it's more a short-circuit thing/lack of experience (she literally doesn't know how to do it yet) , than something intentional so he doesn't get scared off.

 

But when someone is as sensitive to touch as Sheldon is, you're extra cautious when they're upset because sometimes it will make things worse and sometimes it will make things better.  It depends on what upsets them and whether they're crying because their angry, frustrated, sad, happy, etc.

 

I think the last time he cried and she comforted him was during Cooper-Kripke Extraction.  She asked him if she could offer him a hug and he did the "whatever" shrug thing so she knew it was welcome.

[snakeladygreta]

I want to see Sheldon grab her wrists and pull her arms up around his neck, before grabbing her hips next time! :D

[MariaAlbina]

I want to see Sheldon grab her wrists and pull her arms up around his neck, before grabbing her hips next time! :D

 

Are you trying to kill me?

[garnetngold]

Loved the episode. Loved the kiss. Amy is so sweet and innocent, and I really love it lol.

I was just watching the Luminous Fish Effect and it got me thinking. Sheldon had his job issue, went off the deep end, and his mom had to come help get him back on track. In tonight's episode, we see Sheldon struggling with something so (relatively) simple as choosing between two gaming consoles. In upcoming episodes, we will see Sheldon struggle with his career trajectory, and he cannot decide where to go from there...so much so that he drunkenly considers Geology. There's so much indecision going on and he doesn't know what to do. Then the whole prof proton ordeal.

With that said, I wonder how likely a finale would be with Mary visiting to help Sheldon get his life together again. I would love for her to see Sheldon and Amy interact. I think she would be in shock at how much Sheldon has matured.

Aside from that, a completely different story line could be Sheldon confronting Amy about why she is hesitant with their kisses (Maybe after he does something seemingly innocent, like move his hand from her hip to her face, and Amy pulls away). I think besides the fact that she is truly inexperienced, judging by her future comments, she is insecure (even if irrational). Insecurity would cause many people to hold back.

So many possibilities! All could lead to a conversation where Sheldon opens up to Amy, and vice versa.

[MariaAlbina]

A I think besides the fact that she is truly inexperienced, judging by her future comments, she is insecure (even if irrational). Insecurity would cause many people to hold back.

 

 

I really love this part. I'm very insecure and I hold back when faced with intimate situations so it makes the guy that I'm dating think I don't like them and they lose interest. I could definitely see this being the reason Amy holds back and I could see her and Sheldon having a talk about this in the finale. Maybe Sheldon brings it up to her after a kiss that she isn't quite comfortable with. I think until she knows he loves her, she will always be insecure.

[rachelshamyfan]

This is why I think there will be a conversation soon! After dead proton and the physcic Sheldon will open up to Amy and she will admit that she's scared, because that's the only explanation I can find for her lack of kissing when her boyfriend is going out of his comfort zone

Also the butter scene was hilarious

Edited April 4, 2014 by rachelshamyfan

[snakeladygreta]

I really love this part. I'm very insecure and I hold back when faced with intimate situations so it makes the guy that I'm dating think I don't like them and they lose interest. I could definitely see this being the reason Amy holds back and I could see her and Sheldon having a talk about this in the finale. Maybe Sheldon brings it up to her after a kiss that she isn't quite comfortable with. I think until she knows he loves her, she will always be insecure.

What do you wanna bet that it'll be Sheldon who first attempts a little tongue, and that Amy will freak, for sure?

[Retroluv]

Wow. Just...wow. That was incredible.

I was not expecting Sheldon to look so into it! Beyond the way he grabs her and pulls her to him (and that smile...oh boy), Jim gave the kiss a very subtle sensual quality. The way he moves his head and lips almost imperceptibly and wiggles his eyebrows, you can see that he is in the moment and lets his instincts take over to some extent. This kiss was chaste, but not as static as I imagined it would be. This does NOT look like a man who is being strong-armed into what he's doing. Sheldon is in contol, and Amy is along for the ride. Oh, and that little pat he gives her before he leaves? What the heck was that? Who is this man?

They are so cute I can't stand it. Amy leaning on Sheldon in Best Buy warmed my heart. I can't wipe this goofy grin off my face. THIS is the Shamy I love.

I agree that something is up with the way Amy is handling this change in her relationship with Sheldon -- a change that she has waited and longed for for such a long time. And I think it's a little strange that we haven't seen her discuss such a HUGE milestone with the girls! Something is definitely brewing there...

ETA: Just noticed Amy's raised eyebrow at the start of the kiss. Hey, at least it's a reaction!

Edited April 4, 2014 by Retroluv

[Jiab]

I thought I could handle myself during the kiss because I had watched the promo so many times, but no.

My brain shut down and I didn't hear anything Raj was saying after that scene.

I'm a little disappointed that they cut Sheldon's wave and smile at the door, but the kiss was good enough so I'm OK. 

 

[jellynelly]

This is why I think there will be a conversation soon! After dead proton and the physcic Sheldon will open up to Amy and she will admit that she's scared, because that's the only explanation I can find for her lack of kissing when her boyfriend is going out of his comfort zone

 

I *need* this to happen

What do you wanna bet that it'll be Sheldon who first attempts a little tongue, and that Amy will freak, for sure?

 and I *need* this to happen too. the tongue part. not necessarily the freaking out part

[saruluvsshamy]

Why are her fingers crossed?

ohh why

[Jamie]

What do you wanna bet that it'll be Sheldon who first attempts a little tongue, and that Amy will freak, for sure?

I'd really like a make out where Sheldon initiates it and Amy freaks out or gets a little stunned.

It would have been fun if during the kiss Sheldon had started talking about his decision problems, there's a short break when we see Sheldon deepening the kiss and then Amy responds with something like "I don't know Sheldon but the answer is not in my mouth!"

Edited April 4, 2014 by Jaime

[jellynelly]

 

My headcanon says that as low and far behind her his hand appears to be, he touched her butt before walking away.

[saruluvsshamy]

My headcanon says that as low and far behind her his hand appears to be, he touched her butt before walking away.

but why has she crossed her fingers? is it amy or mayim?

[jellynelly]

but why has she crossed her fingers? is it amy or mayim?

I don't think they're crossed. Her forefinger is just pointed and her others are curled a little. Not sure if Mayim is doing that purposely as a thing Amy does or if it's just something she unconsciously does.

[rachelshamyfan]

The lack of kissing kind of reminds of a scene from friends

I'm presuming most people watched friends

When Chandler was talking to Monica and Rachel about his first time with Kathy and the lack of agreement

At the moment it seems that Sheldon has overtaken Amy in the progress for intimacy that she apparently wants, I hope there is something happening in the last two episodes of the season to clarify or improve that

[koops]

But when someone is as sensitive to touch as Sheldon is, you're extra cautious when they're upset because sometimes it will make things worse and sometimes it will make things better.  It depends on what upsets them and whether they're crying because their angry, frustrated, sad, happy, etc.

 

I think the last time he cried and she comforted him was during Cooper-Kripke Extraction.  She asked him if she could offer him a hug and he did the "whatever" shrug thing so she knew it was welcome.

 

Amy can be very considerate of Sheldon's personal space and issues with touch, that is true. But at the same time she has launched herself at him plenty of times for hugs and she also apparently insists on holding hands all the time even though she knows he's "not a a fan". I just don't think that while she's in the moment, kissing him, she's thinking of anything else but the kiss, whether it's to enjoy it or going 'OMC WHAT IS HAPPENING WHAT DO I DO!?"

 

I don't think Amy is handling Sheldon as if he's a baby deer, I still think inexperience is the root cause of all this. Which leads to all sorts of other byproducts, like insecurity, fears, uncertainty etc. She just doesn't have the experience to know how to handle all of this or to know how to make sense of all of this, as evidenced by her chat with Leonard and at Xmas. I know Amy is awesome and so smart and has had a huge impact on Sheldon, but she's still a socially-stunted girl in her first relationship ever with a guy who isn't exactly an open book about his feelings, so even she can only go so far in making sense of all this.

 

The question is whether this is just the way Mayim and Jim and TPTB decided to play it to make it realistic and emphasize Sheldon's enjoyment of it all, and they will just have her start kissing/touching back at some point, or whether they are doing this for another reason, like setting up a cold-feet scenario or a honest heart-to-heart between them.

[kazzie]

It almost looks like Sheldon is trying to take Amy's hand when she is helping him up at best buy...

[Jiab]

It almost looks like Sheldon is trying to take Amy's hand when she is helping him up at best buy...

I saw him touch her arm! 

Don't know why I'm still excited about this.