Spoilers The Shamy - Season 7 Spoilers Only Discussion Thread

[Chaliceinnana]

Last Convention that I attended had a large number of "Sheldon and Amy's". I think they were the most popular couple choice. One couple had different outfits for each night cumulating in the Shamy as Spock/Nurse Chapel on Saturday.

 

There is a larger fandom. And some of them can sew.

[saruluvsshamy]

wow

[Catlina]

I disagree that Amy doesn't respond. After the kiss, she stood there for a moment with her head still upturned like she was pausing to relish the moment just a few seconds longer before coming back to earth. She looked like a girl who was on cloud 9 just from the simple experience of pressing her lips sweetly to his for awhile - she had no need to claw at him, grab him, stick her tongue down his throat, or otherwise maul the man. Just to have him close, kissing her gently, was enough to transport her to heaven for awhile, and I find that very indicative of a girl with such little experience as Amy. For her, right now, this is enough, and that seems about right to me.

 

Also, I should note that it was not the easiest kiss to pull off. They weren't able to pull off the kiss the first time because the audience wouldn't allow them to get in their lines. Then they tried the kiss again, and were trying to kiss and keep their lips together while also getting off the dialogue and the timing of the dialogue to make it sweet and get laughter too. When I watched it being filmed, I got a little hot under the collar by the first kiss. It just went on and on and there was a bit more passion to it. In the second one, I thought (just viewing, because I couldn't hear the dialogue) that it started well, was just a bit awkward in the middle because they were waiting for audience reaction to die down to get their lines in, and then heated back up again with Sheldon's "well they do" line and the sexy way she smiles that line against her lips.

 

Now that I know the dialogue, I'm actually even more over the moon about the kiss, which I will get into here:

 

Personally, I love this whole post because it sums up what I feel. Mostly - I was actually happier about the kiss when I saw it on screen and could hear the dialogue then when I saw it at the taping. At the taping, i thought it was pretty incredible (although I wanted them to tape it a 3rd time to get the passion of the first one more into getting the dialogue off on the second one, because the second one was good but I thought it could be better once they figured out what the timing with the audience was. Seriously, the audience reaction was something they couldn't prepare for in rehearsal, so they couldn't get the timing of it with all the noise quite right until they filmed it right then. I wish they had done it one more time to really nail it perfectly - it was close) but I had the same concern as you: what did it say that Sheldon still had video game consoles on his mind while he was kissing Amy? And I went back and forth on thinking that it was not a good message that Sheldon was still thinking more about his video games while kissing Amy then being emotionally moved by the act of what he was doing, but then thinking that Sheldon wasn't breaking the kiss to talk about them. I mean, he could have pecked her on the lips and ended it and kept talking about video games, but here he was blending the two. He wanted to talk about video games, but he also didn't want to stop kissing her either, and this kiss went on even longer than the first.

 

However, now that I know what the dialogue was, my concern is pretty much erased. There was so much subtext into those lines he says while he kisses her. He's kissing her, and his mind comes to the idea of "lighting up," and the way he phrases the question makes it seem so casual - "Did I mention that the game controllers light up?" Amy continues to kiss him, and it takes her a moment to remember to answer, and she just slips in, "No." Then, Sheldon says, while smiling and rather firmly, "well they do." If he was continuing to really think about video games, he would have kept talking about the video games, but that's not what he says, he stresses to her his original comment, because he really wants to impart that image and metaphor in her mind. And what a brilliant metaphor it is - because the concept of something "lighting up" can be looked at a lot of different ways, from the "spark" of a kiss, which might have been what he was feeling - the sparks - which made him think about the video game controller as well, the way his mind would free associate - he feels sparks, he feels emotionally "light up" and then he thinks of the video game controllers "lighting up" and he wants to share that picture or idea with her. You can also see the sexual metaphor in the idea of a video game controller lighting up as well, obviously, whether you think about him getting slightly erect or just feeling sexually turned on. When she replies no, he wants to assure her that this lighting up is happening - well they DO. Just to stress the whole point of this "lighting up" business.

 

It put the kiss in a whole new light for me - he's not really still talking about the video game consoles he's been obsessed with all evening. He's thinking about things lighting up, getting turned on, sparking on, lights and colors and bright things - and he is thinking all of this while kissing her and he wants her to know that's on his mind without coming right out and saying it - he's very flirty about it. And he wants her to know it but he doesn't want to stop kissing her in order to tell her either. Can't seem to break that kiss, no matter what's on his mind. And for me that really changes everything about it.

 

 I think I may have just died of feels after reading this post. Thanks Lio Especially the bolded parts. As a non-english speaker as a native language, I'm not familiar with all connotations and double meanings in English language - I wish I was. Thank you for pointing this out, I wouldn't have managed to notice this by myself. It seems it really was a pun intended from his side and he was flirting with her deliberately ( I assume he did because of his very flirty smile) and if he really was deliberately referring to the sexual interpretation of that metaphor, I don't know what to say anymore. If he was referring to the possible sexual interpretation or just that he meant he is turned on by her emotionally, physically or mentally in that moment, either way it is huge.  Sheldon is taking so huge leaps and bounds in this relationship I have hard time to keep on track. Amy obviously didn't get his clue and double meaning of that sentence (and which of the possible interpretations he was referring to), but who knows. Maybe she was left thinking what his words there meant.

 

[otakuandfangirl]

The kiss thanks to tmp

 

 

I apologize in advance for not providing a specific screenshot for the moment I'm talking about, but I am technologically stunted in some areas.

 

Okay, so I am watching this for the millionth time when I paused it for some reason for a few minutes. When I finally return to watch it again I see where it's paused and I actually start to tear up. Pause it at exactly 24 seconds. One of the things I really appreciated about this scene was in between talking when Sheldon would go right back to looking like this. Like he is just so in the moment and loving it and it's so sweet and cute and serious and lovely and oooohhhhhhh just can't contain my feels right now......maybe it's because I'm sick so I'm super sensitive. This is the kind of look I want him to make when he finally expresses his love to her. I seriously don't know what it is about this exact moment that has me all mushy. Maybe I need to go to bed.

 

[rachelshamyfan]

Was thinking about why the writers went with Amy being jealous of Penny's relationship with Sheldon and I still don't know where that has come from, there have been so signs!

All I know is if I had been at that taping, I may of been removed for telling them how stupid a line it is!

[SSGirl]

Was thinking about why the writers went with Amy being jealous of Penny's relationship with Sheldon and I still don't know where that has come from, there have been so signs!

All I know is if I had been at that taping, I may of been removed for telling them how stupid a line it is!

I totally agree. Honestly I was kinda disappointed with this episode based on the taping report in comparison to the two before it. The last two episodes seemed like two steps forward and this one seemed like three steps back. I'm a little upset that Amy isn't more supportive in this episode. I would understand if she would complain about him blathering on about the video game consoles but his career issue is very important. The video game consoles are really inconsequential to his life but with this career issue he is lost, he doesn't know what to do with his life and I would think Amy would have more interest in helping him get back on track. I also felt the writers made Amy a bit hypocritical in this episode. At the beginning she lies because she doesn't want to hear sheldon talk about his career crisis but she wants him to open up more to her. I think Sheldon talking to Amy about his career crisis is part of opening up to her. His career is his life, his dreams, everything he's worked for, everything he's aspired for and if he's trying to go to Amy to talk about it and for her help he's opening up to her letting her into one of the most important aspects of his life, of who he is and right now he's lost, he needs her help and he's upset cause he probably feels by her lying to him and saying she's tired of hearing him talk about it that she somewhat abandoned him in his time of need. And don't even get me started on the Amy being jealous of Penny part which I think is stupid and I'd be kicked out of the taping right there with you Rachel. Have they forgot that in this past season it's been stated twice how much of an affect Amy's had on Sheldon, how much she's opened him up and can convince him to do new things. It just makes me mad. I feel like they took such great progress they've been making and stomped on it. Like I said this episode has it's moments but overall I'm not happy wth it. Ok rant over, please return to your regularly scheduled shamy fangirling I'm gonna go watch the kiss on YouTube and calm down (well not calm of course I'm gonna be happy, squealing fangirling

[koops]

I totally agree with you guys, I just want to quote the entirety of SSGirl's post because I agree with every single word on it. I think the latest taping is an incredibly sloppy and inconsistent episode put there just to set up the psychic scene so they can, in turn, set something up for the finale. It reads like an episode written for those who are to thick to get the point that this seems to be building towards something. When there was literally no need to do it. But it's an issue I often have with the show. They have a run of 3-4 VERY good episodes in a row, and then they always have one that seems to be written by the B-writing team or by some casual viewers who haven't been paying attention to the show recently. 

 

And I particularly agree with the fact that the thing that upset me the most about how this ep has been written is that they make Amy come across as incredibly hypocritical and also as someone who is completely incoherent: why would she put up with his consoles obsession but not with his very understandable SCIENTIFIC career crisis? I only have one answer for that: Bill Prady hasn't been involved in this latest episode. Say what you will, but Bill writes Amy heads and shoulders above everyone else on that writing team. 

 

What annoys me the most is that people will take as truth it and run with it because it's easier and faster to quote lines than it is to quote actions that disprove those lines. Thank god we have wonderful gifsets like Andy's about how much of an influence Amy has had on Sheldon and to illustrate the bunch on nonsense in this episode. Yes, I get it, it's Amy's perception and it doesn't necessarily matches reality, but while that was understandable in Cooper Extraction, they really really took it too far here for it to be believable. 

Edited April 6, 2014 by koops

[SSGirl]

why would she put up with his consoles obsession but not with his very understandable SCIENTIFIC career crisis?

This is exactly what makes me the most upset. If Amy did what she does in this episode while he was dealing with his video game console issue I would have understood but this is his CAREER!!!! This is one of the most important aspects of his life, what makes Sheldon, Sheldon. He is a genius, he is a scientist, and now he's lost. And then they go and make Amy say she wishes Sheldon would open up to her!!! He was!!! About his CAREER, about getting his life back together after the major decision he made to quit working on string theory, about what path his career, his life would take him now, about helping him get back on track. I don't think he's really mad about the lying per say I think it's more he probably feels she abandoned him in his most desperate time of need. And for what? So the writers could make Sheldon go to a psychic? So they could hammer a point home? So they could stomp on the progress they've been making? And with Amy being jealous of Penny, it's true Amy would have never gotten Sheldon to go to a psychic. And you know why? Amy would never go to a psychic either!!! Just like Sheldon wouldn't have if Penny didn't make him go!!! But Amy would have figured out a way to help Sheldon on terms that worked for both of them because they're minds are so similar, the reason they connected in the first place!!!! I just hope in the following episodes we can get back the progress they've been making in the two episodes before this one.

[Stefania]

Agree with everything that has been said so far. I took this episode's writing as very heavy-handed - they had the psychic scene in mind to carry us to whatever they have in mind for the last two episodes of the season as far as Sheldon/Shamy are concerned and they took what I consider a lazy and inconsistent road to get there.

It's a shame, because this episode follows some very well scripted episodes and I agree with koops that Prady should be consistently involved with Amy as he once was.

Call it pick and choose, but I'm refusing to take what is being said in this episode as the truth - or at least, I'm taking it with three spoons of salt.

I can't believe the hypocrisy in Amy's behaviour nor I can't believe her jealousy towards Penny (??) or that Sheldon is supposedly more comfortable with Penny or Leonard than her. Just take a quick look at who Sheldon was before Amy and you get a pretty clear picture imo. Leonard firstly and then Penny are important in his life as well, of course (especially Leonard, remember how Sheldon was when they met?), but "negating" what Amy has brought in Sheldon's life in favour of a episode plot point/throwaway line is cheap. Well, I know that's not the case. One episode is not going to change what I've seen in four seasons.

I understand that the writers of this episode needed to get to a point (the psychic) to set up the rest, but... I can't swallow something that has substantial proof to the contrary and comes literally out of the left field at this stage.

What I'm actually hoping right now is that the last two episodes are more in line writing-wise with what we've seen just a few days ago, for example (or what immediately follows, from what I can tell from the report Proton sounds great and I like the idea of Sheldon's subconscious talking to him through Amy/Leonard via Proton far more compelling. So far. We'll see the episodes, I guess). That's clever and subtle and follows the basic rule of storytelling that is show not tell. Not this.

...woah I'm sorry for the rant. Grabbing a hot beverage, excuse me.

Edited April 6, 2014 by teoriapostmoderna

[Jiab]

To be honest, I don't like the idea of a psychic telling Sheldon what he should do, but it's everything can happen episode so I put up with it. 

I was disappointed with Amy abandoning him in the time like this too, more disappointed than her being jealous of Penny. 

However, that episode gave me hope that we will get something very special for the last two episodes. 

The episode might be played out better than we thought, I remember how upset I was before the Table episode aired, but it turned out to be okay and I enjoyed it.

[kazzie]

I went to comicon like convention this week and I asked the artist at the gallery to draw shamy kissing (she was pricey but she draws cute stuff). She screamed in front of 20 people and hugged me telling me Shamy is the cutest couple on TV right now.

So I just wanted to say that I met a real life Shamy fangirl today and it was awesome. I told her to join us on this website

Our convo:

"DID U SEE THAT KISS"

"I KNOW THAT KISS"

"THE KISS OMG"

"I KNOW THAT KISS GUHH I CANT EVEN"

"I KNOWWWWWW"

"THE BROWNIE TOO"

"I KNOWWWW"

"HANDS ON WAIST TOO"

"HAAANDSSSSS"

Yeah that went on for awhile. We fangirled hard at the convention.

 

YEP.

 

That pretty much sounds like a typical shamy fan style conversation... 

Im a little disappointed the word "Dying" wasn't used though

[Catlina]

And I particularly agree with the fact that the thing that upset me the most about how this ep has been written is that they make Amy come across as incredibly hypocritical and also as someone who is completely incoherent: why would she put up with his consoles obsession but not with his very understandable SCIENTIFIC career crisis? I only have one answer for that: Bill Prady hasn't been involved in this latest episode. Say what you will, but Bill writes Amy heads and shoulders above everyone else on that writing team.

 

 x1000 times amen to this! I so wish Bill could be involved in writing for the finales. If they haven't yet written them, Bill, please join for the writing process! I think he really writes Amy better than anyone else, with best consistency to her character. [i would tweet to him about it if I had the courage.... He is the best Amy writer.]

Edited April 6, 2014 by Catlina

[CaffeineBuzz]

To be honest, I don't like the idea of a psychic telling Sheldon what he should do, but it's everything can happen episode so I put up with it. I was disappointed with Amy abandoning him in the time like this too, more disappointed than her being jealous of Penny. However, that episode gave me hope that we will get something very special for the last two episodes. The episode might be played out better than we thought, I remember how upset I was before the Table episode aired, but it turned out to be okay and I enjoyed it.

I'm unsure on this episode too based on the taping report so I'm reserving judgement on it for now. Lets also not forget that by the time it airs we'll already have the other two reports so worrying about it is I guess kind of moot at this point *shrug*.

[MariaAlbina]

I don't know if this changes anything but totabcn said Amy said 'more comfortable' not 'open up more'. We don't know what she meant by comfortable; If she meant physical (which I can't see since he's kissing her) or emotionally. 'Comfortable' and 'open up more' could mean the same thing, but who knows.

Edited April 6, 2014 by MariaAlbina

[Irene]

I don't know if this changes anything but totabcn said Amy said 'more comfortable' not 'open up more'. We don't know what she meant by comfortable; If she meant physical (which I can't see since he's kissing her) or emotionally. 'Comfortable' and 'open up more' could mean the same thing, but who knows.

That seems like the pot calling the kettle black. Sheldon looked pretty comfy with Amy on the latest episode--at dinner, kissing, or Best Buy. If anything, it's Amy that looked less comfortable--during the kiss, and whether or not to touch his back to console him walking out of Best Buy.

[MariaAlbina]

I didn't take her not touching his back when he started crying was because she didn't know if she should. I took it that she was just shocked by how upset he was and it startled her. I mean, she slapped his back when he put the PS4 back after all.

[stardustmelody]

I agree that Bill makes the entire production smoother.  The episodes are better paced, lighter in tone and present good comedic timing and wit, and they are consistent with character profile and history and the continuity is great.  He just knows how to get the pacing down to a tee.  He can present three stories and they all seem to progress, don't seem rushed and are entertaining as all get out (as demonstrated in Indecision).   He wasn't on the episode that was just taped and it shows.  You can always tell when he isn't involved.   The continuity and consistency go out the door immediately.  

 

Amy may mean in a way that Penny and Sheldon are comfortable with each other (yes Penny does not seem to care if Sheldon is a "no touch" guy, she still will pull him in a hug, or pat his back or arm, etc. and not care).   Maybe Amy wishes she had as much comfort herself with Sheldon.   It could be that she was wishing she was as brave as Penny is with just reaching out and touching him.  The thing is, when you really are attracted to someone, there is a bit of a difference than when you are not.  Penny is not attracted to him and touching him is like touching a child to her.  She comforts him like a he was her child, not as a man she wants to have a lifelong intimate relationship with.   Amy, however, sees that and wishes she was as brave perhaps?   I don't know.  I do think that there are differences between their relationships and Amy is pretty smart and has seen it, but has not connected the dots that it is because they are different relationships and so there will be differences.  

 

I do think that the biggest problem I have always had with Molaro is that he consistently focuses more on a plot point and works the dialog and story around it.  That makes for sloppy writing because eventually you lose sight of who your characters really are.  When you flip  flop their personalities and character traits around so much you begin to not recognize them.   It is a very dangerous way to write.   The reason this show is so popular is because of the characters and how everyone related to or fell in love with the characters and their relationships.  But if you mess up those characters and their relationships in order to fit a plot point in, it can really do damage down the road.   He nearly ruined Penny for a while there and same with Sheldon with making him too childish.   Bill brought them back to a nice place in the episodes he has written this season, but then we end up with this episode that Bill was not on, and everyone is back scratching their heads again.  

 

I would love to see Bill postpone his teaching for the next three years and let him really get back more involved in the writing.   He can always teach after the show ends.

[koops]

Great posts guys.

 

I am not in any way saying that Penny doesn't know how to handle Sheldon, in her own style, and get him to do things, in her own style. She has done it before and she will continue to do so. They're really good friends and that comes with the territory. She's always had a way with Sheldon, and with al of the guys. And if Amy had never had the same success as Penny in doing so, if Sheldon were confiding in Penny and asking Penny for advice, if Penny were really more comfortable touching Sheldon (and viceversa) compared to Amy, I would have no issue whatsoever with her jealousy. But, COME ON! All of this is simply not true and we have nearly 4 years of evidence, including 5 quotes from 4 different characters over the last 10 episodes, 3 of which were directly said to Amy, to the contrary!

 

Cooper Extraction:

 

- Bernadette: "You got him to do it!"

- Raj: "You clearly had an impact on him"

 

Locomotive:

 

- Bernadette: "Just the fact that you managed to get him up here says a lot!"

 

Table:

 

- Penny: "Look how much Amy changed you!"

- Leonard: "She had a huge impact on you."

 

 

And now all of a sudden we are meant to buy that Amy is feeling insecure about Penny?! Amy is respectful of his personal space and issues with touching, but only to a certain extent. She's hugged him and "forces" him to hold hands. And he's now kissing her! How can it even cross her mind he's more comfortable with Penny when she's the one who has the most physical contact with him and spends most of her time with him?! When SHE is the one who had to tell SHELDON how to behave as a friend WITH PENNY in Monster Isolation?! When SHE is the one he goes for advice to?! Sheldon might have given Penny a good word here and there about her career or Leonard, but he has NEVER gone to her asking her "What should I do?"?! 

 

I mean, I get the point of trying to create the atmosphere for some kind of epiphany on Sheldon's part but this isn't one small little detail they glossed over in order to write that conversation between Leonard and Amy. This is 4 YEARS of evidence including scripts and lines they wrote extremely recently. What did they drink before writing this episode?

[rachelshamyfan]

The physic episode just seems to have a lot of stupid things going on and the worst bit is that Amy is apparently jealous of Penny

I just don't get it

[Stefania]

The one thing that I find ridiculous above others in what they have Amy say is that they felt the need to specify that she feels jealous of Sheldon and Penny's relationship "not in a romantic way".

 

 

I would have never guessed! Thanks for telling me, I thought this was suddenly turning into a love triangle!

 

(That's sarcasm.)

 

If anything, Sheldon has always been the one that wanted first Leonard and then Amy out of Penny's influence (mainly because the world revolves around him ). So, again, this just doesn't make any sense. I hope and pray this line is never brought up again or it's just... well, meaningless drama. With no evidence to support it.

 

With that said, and a bit more seriously, I'm just going to disregard it and move on, personally. The group (including Penny, the biggest Shamy shipper of us all) has pointed out repeatedly the impact Amy has had on him. I'm just a bit sad to see Amy once again used as a plot device, maybe, if anything.

Edited April 6, 2014 by teoriapostmoderna

[Bella Duveen]

I get that the writing of this latest episode is not great-I suppose that's what comes of having different writers with different views on the characters, and it's a shame things didn't work so well in this one. I think though, in a insecure mood, Amy may be prone to irrational jealously of Penny, as she is the type of girl/woman she always wanted to be friends with but was rejected by and probably bullied by at times. All the guys carry those scars so I think she would too. I have more of a problem with her apparently not wanting to listen to Sheldon's career issues-she understands probably better than anyone else how important his career is to him and I think she would have listened when others didn't.

I hope things are back on track for the last few episodes too-I think they will be. Too much has happened to be ignored.

[koops]

LMAO THE OWL! hahaha! Appropriate use of the owl is appropriate! 

 

Seriously, that line seems to come out of bad fanfiction: have the mousy, nerdy girl feeling insecure because her boyfriend is buddies with the hot, perfect blonde. I mean, what am I watching? 9210? When Molaro started off the season saying Amy doesn't feel in any way threatened by Penny?

 

I think what annoys me even more is Leonard's response. Because I could even buy Amy having a moment of stupid and suddenly feeling mopey, but Leonard should have set her straight and told her she is out of her mind. Not saying something that sounds like Penny has the magic touch with Sheldon out of everyone in the gang, himself included. I'm sorry, despite what Shennies like to think, that is simply not true. I think the only reason why it may come across as Penny getting walked over by Sheldon less than Leonard and Amy is because when she's fed up with Sheldon she can just shut the door in his face and ignore him, whereas Leonard and Amy can't or won't.

 

Anyway, I agree with Stef. I hope this is a one-off mistake and it's never mentioned again. I'll apply evidence-based storytelling and ignore it.

Edited April 6, 2014 by koops

[SSGirl]

I have more of a problem with her apparently not wanting to listen to Sheldon's career issues-she understands probably better than anyone else how important his career is to him and I think she would have listened when others didn't.

This is exactly what upsets me the most about this episode. I won't go into a long winded rant I've already done that twice today in this thread. But I would have liked to see Amy be more supportive in this time when Sheldon is lost and and not as Sheldon probably sees it abandon him in his time of need. I could see Amy getting tired of his video game console nonsense but his career crisis? Just seems backwards to me. If anything Amy should be the number one person helping him. She's always been on his side of things on even the stupidest stuff when the rest of the gang was against him and THIS is the time she isn't supportive of him? Just seems hypocritical and like bad writing to me. I'll end this post here before I go into a third rant today.

[stardustmelody]

I get that the writing of this latest episode is not great-I suppose that's what comes of having different writers with different views on the characters, and it's a shame things didn't work so well in this one. I think though, in a insecure mood, Amy may be prone to irrational jealously of Penny, as she is the type of girl/woman she always wanted to be friends with but was rejected by and probably bullied by at times. All the guys carry those scars so I think she would too. I have more of a problem with her apparently not wanting to listen to Sheldon's career issues-she understands probably better than anyone else how important his career is to him and I think she would have listened when others didn't.

I hope things are back on track for the last few episodes too-I think they will be. Too much has happened to be ignored.

 

To be honest, I agree with this. I didn't seem to be too bothered by the jealousy remark and perhaps understood it more. I think women do begin to feel insecure at times and Amy has always found Penny to be a "goddess" in her eyes so I can see now that Sheldon is showing some signs of he does have the ability to have sexual feelings, that she may begin to show signs of insecurity.   She knows she is inexperienced and Penny not only being a goddess in her eyes, also has a lot of experience so may be able to satisfy a man better.   I think that could make her fee slightly insecure and yes a twinge of jealousy.   So I wasn't surprised they went there and really could understand why Amy might feel a bit of jealousy about the friendship that Sheldon has with Amy.  I get it more I guess...even though it did come out of left field.  I think the thing is they never built to it. It just came from nowhere and as Koops said, Leonard didn't help the situation with his response  If anything that could make Amy feel even less secure.    I hope they never go there again to be honest.

 

But I found it far, far, far more bothersome that she was annoyed by his wanting to talk about his career crisis.   That seemed completely out of character to me.   Amy, if anyone, could relate to that concern and I was hoping she would offer some great wisdom for him instead of trying to hide from hearing about it from him.  That was completely bad writing in my opinion.  

[koops]

Maybe the full title of the episode is "The Anything (Including The Opposite of Reality) Can Happen Recurrence".