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I don't know I just so afraid :( what if all plan is their (S/P) being together !!! Omg I'm freaking out !!

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Don't worry about. It won't happen. I'd be willing to bet my life on it. We've had zero indications that Shenny will end up together. The writers would be idiots to spend 10 years building two relationships and they ruin it. There is literally zero chance of this happening.

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I don't think this show has to worry about an HIMYM ending. The writers for the two shows are miles apart in terms of approach. The HIMYM writers had decided on the finale since the beginning and stuck to it despite all the other things that happened in between. They didn't allow the flexibility to let their story go where it made most sense. TBBT writers, by definition, don't plan more than a few episodes in advance. They might have gotten better at planning longer story-arcs, but they mostly allow the story to evolve naturally. Also, it's a completely different show. TBBT doesn't do plot-twists and turns, shocking cliffhangers or anything like that. They tried it once with Penny/Raj and we know how well that went down. But they especially wouldn't do something like that where Sheldon is involved, him being their golden goose and all. This show evolves like watching paint dry, they're not the type to pull such sudden changes.

 

Now, I'm sure that they have thought about romantic Shenny, especially in the past, given how vocal their fans are but, until now, they've always been very adamant that they were not going there. They've made their point again and again during the show and in interviews. It's nothing like Ted and Robin at all. I've said many times that I don't believe a Shenny relationship would have been impossible on the show, because, just as they spent time building and working on Shamy, they could have done the same with Shenny. But turning these two characters into characters that could work in a romantic relationship would have taken twice as much work as it's taking them to evolve two people as similar as Sheldon and Amy. Not to mention they would have lost what made their relationship have that spark to start with (as we are seeing now with them commiserating and getting along). It's not as easy as switching Robin from Ted to Barney and back again. I'm not going to bet my internal organs that if the show goes on for ages and they run out of ideas they will never be tempted to play the Shenny hook-up card. But it would be just a desperate stunt to come up with something to fill up airtime. I think the theoretical Shenny ship sunk by S3. They're too far gone with the stories by now for it to be anything but a big jump-the-shark moment, IMO. And I hope the writers know better than that. 

 

I also agree that I don't see why they would want to toss out two relationships they spent so long building (Lenny and Shamy) and who the vast majority of the audience love, just to do something as cliche' as the polar opposite, hot leads hooking up. Despite Shennies thinking that shipping Shenny is "thinking outside the box" because it's not canon, it's actually a very common trope. I was just saying earlier how much I love Shenny as a platonic friendship because it shows that not all relationships between people of the opposite sex have to have romantic or sexual undertones. It is very possible to have a friend of the opposite sex, and even be close, without it turning romantic. Penny has a magic touch with all the boys, not just with Sheldon, and even with the girls themselves, especially Amy. I don't think any of these characters would have grown much in social awareness without her. But she's meant for Leonard and Leonard is meant for her. 

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himym.n tbbt cannot be compared.. it was not as if robin n ted never had a history...

 

we cant compare it with shamy.. bec the writers have never ever hinted even an attraction from their side...

the episode where sheldon helps her wear her top.. as her arm is dislocated.. he is just doing his job.. helping her out... and penny too..

they are just frnds.. and i love their scenes togther...

even thinking about them being togther is weird.. and an insult to all those beautiful sheldon/penny scenes


Haha, Jim said he would be less surprised about Sheldon not being a virgin than Penny and Sheldon getting together. :p

i know right!!


I don't think this show has to worry about an HIMYM ending. The writers for the two shows are miles apart in terms of approach. The HIMYM writers had decided on the finale since the beginning and stuck to it despite all the other things that happened in between. They didn't allow the flexibility to let their story go where it made most sense. TBBT writers, by definition, don't plan more than a few episodes in advance. They might have gotten better at planning longer story-arcs, but they mostly allow the story to evolve naturally. Also, it's a completely different show. TBBT doesn't do plot-twists and turns, shocking cliffhangers or anything like that. They tried it once with Penny/Raj and we know how well that went down. But they especially wouldn't do something like that where Sheldon is involved, him being their golden goose and all. This show evolves like watching paint dry, they're not the type to pull such sudden changes.

 

Now, I'm sure that they have thought about romantic Shenny, especially in the past, given how vocal their fans are but, until now, they've always been very adamant that they were not going there. They've made their point again and again during the show and in interviews. It's nothing like Ted and Robin at all. I've said many times that I don't believe a Shenny relationship would have been impossible on the show, because, just as they spent time building and working on Shamy, they could have done the same with Shenny. But turning these two characters into characters that could work in a romantic relationship would have taken twice as much work as it's taking them to evolve two people as similar as Sheldon and Amy. Not to mention they would have lost what made their relationship have that spark to start with (as we are seeing now with them commiserating and getting along). It's not as easy as switching Robin from Ted to Barney and back again. I'm not going to bet my internal organs that if the show goes on for ages and they run out of ideas they will never be tempted to play the Shenny hook-up card. But it would be just a desperate stunt to come up with something to fill up airtime. I think the theoretical Shenny ship sunk by S3. They're too far gone with the stories by now for it to be anything but a big jump-the-shark moment, IMO. And I hope the writers know better than that. 

 

I also agree that I don't see why they would want to toss out two relationships they spent so long building (Lenny and Shamy) and who the vast majority of the audience love, just to do something as cliche' as the polar opposite, hot leads hooking up. Despite Shennies thinking that shipping Shenny is "thinking outside the box" because it's not canon, it's actually a very common trope. I was just saying earlier how much I love Shenny as a platonic friendship because it shows that not all relationships between people of the opposite sex have to have romantic or sexual undertones. It is very possible to have a friend of the opposite sex, and even be close, without it turning romantic. Penny has a magic touch with all the boys, not just with Sheldon, and even with the girls themselves, especially Amy. I don't think any of these characters would have grown much in social awareness without her. But she's meant for Leonard and Leonard is meant for her. 

so true!! agree!!

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Have we talked about the fact that in the promo, when Sheldon say he looks like someone in a boyband, he says he would be the dreamy one and the smart one?

Excuse me, but when did Sheldon start caring about being dreamy? In other cases he would be satisfied with being just "the smart one", something he even calls himself by in earlier seasons.

I don't think I've ever heard him refer to himself as dreamy/hot/handsome in any way. Sure he calls himself pretty in one episode but that's more or less his mothers words. Otherwise when complementing himself it has always been about his mind.

I would definitaly dare to say that Amy is the reason for this. Not sure though if it's all of her mooning over him that has made him confident in the way he look or if it's because being in love and having the knowledge of someone loving you simply makes you feel more beautiful.

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He kind of referred to himself in the closet episode as a pretty boy in the big city

Yeah I know, that was the one I referred to that could be taken as he was quoting his mother. But even if not, it's still after Amy : )

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I also agree that I don't see why they would want to toss out two relationships they spent so long building (Lenny and Shamy) and who the vast majority of the audience love, just to do something as cliche' as the polar opposite, hot leads hooking up. Despite Shennies thinking that shipping Shenny is "thinking outside the box" because it's not canon, it's actually a very common trope. I was just saying earlier how much I love Shenny as a platonic friendship because it shows that not all relationships between people of the opposite sex have to have romantic or sexual undertones. It is very possible to have a friend of the opposite sex, and even be close, without it turning romantic. Penny has a magic touch with all the boys, not just with Sheldon, and even with the girls themselves, especially Amy. I don't think any of these characters would have grown much in social awareness without her. But she's meant for Leonard and Leonard is meant for her. 

Very true.

 

One of my best friends is a guy I've known since we were in college together.  In fact, he came to me about another college friend of ours when he decided to start dating her.  And my hubby has at last two best female friends that he went to college with as well.  He even went on dates with them before they all decided they were better friends.  He even introduced one of them to her hubby.

 

The only way I can see Shenny ever happening is in an alternate universe episode similar to Cooper Extraction, except they've all changed personalities, i.e. Penny is like Amy, Amy is like Bernie, Leonard is like Howard, etc.

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The himym finale was a complete train wreck. They undid nine years of character development in less than an hour. They had a fixed ending from the beginning and ignored the natural progression of the show. TBBT is not going to do that. They won't destroy all their hard work. They're smart. They know they have something special with Shamy. Sheldon/Penny have no chance of happening now. Maybe back in the first/second season they could have started something, but not now. Definitely not now.  

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HIMYM was so disappointing but I understand why they did it, because since the start it had always been Robin, Ted having a hard time letting go etc. They are the Ross and Rachel of the show, Barney was Joey and all the other guys Rachael was close to (except they didn't handle that thing as well as FRIENDS did) if we compare TBBT to these shows Lenny are Ross and Rachel, Ted and Robin (apparently) because of the on/off again thing, Howardette would be Mondler, Marshal and Lily because of the marriage thing I guess and Shamy is the originality, there hasn't been a couple like them, perhaps joey x phoebe friendship was the closest because of the quirkiness of the characters... Shamy is original we can't properly compare these characters (or any really) to other shows, especially HIYMY as their couple was established wayyyyyy earlier before character developments

Shenny won't happen, not just because of Shamy, but Lenny, who have always been the main couple (despite how I see it) to the greater audience

Oh and Sheldon did say that he felt like a teenage heartthrob in Werewolf

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Have we talked about the fact that in the promo, when Sheldon say he looks like someone in a boyband, he says he would be the dreamy one and the smart one?

Excuse me, but when did Sheldon start caring about being dreamy? In other cases he would be satisfied with being just "the smart one", something he even calls himself by in earlier seasons.

 

Actually It doesn't shocked me when he refers himself as the dreamy one. Earlier in the season, he said to Penny : "we're dreamers". In a way it makes sense. When you choose to be a theoretical physicist you HAVE to be very imaginative to create and articulate new theories and correlations. The biggest geniuses in our planet were big dreamers too. It is then totally IC to call himself the dreamy one because I think that in Sheldon's head, being dreamy and imaginative are genius' features.

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Oh Mayim, you are so wrong.....while they may not be close to it yet...it will happen. I am certain that while Shamy are very unique, Sheldon still is very much one to like to know that there is some traditions he holds still as important.   I think there will be wedding bells eventually.

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Don't worry about. It won't happen. I'd be willing to bet my life on it. We've had zero indications that Shenny will end up together. The writers would be idiots to spend 10 years building two relationships and they ruin it. There is literally zero chance of this happening.

 

From Comic Con 2009, Michael Ausiello interview.  At :58 Jim and Kaley talk about how weirded out they'd be by a Sheldon and Penney hookup.

 

They also tease the heck out of Jim over his first Emmy nomination.  This is a typical Ausiello interview with the cast, they really run amok.

 

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I´ve just rewatched 2 x 20 through WB Channel. It is the original" Any thing can happened thurday" It is GLORIUOS! and the ep before it too (the one when the new girl moves to 5A). Those episodes show both Penny and Leonard jealousy, and go directly to 2 x23 and the famous Penny´s quote when Leonard goes to the North Pole! Don´t worry! SHAMY is FOREVER´, and Lenny too!

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Oh Mayim, you are so wrong.....while they may not be close to it yet...it will happen. I am certain that while Shamy are very unique, Sheldon still is very much one to like to know that there is some traditions he holds still as important.   I think there will be wedding bells eventually.

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"Tonight, the duo grows even closer when Amy helps Sheldon deal with a personal crisis after he determines he's wasting his time studying string theory."

 

What? Are they mistaking Amy for Penny?

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Actually It doesn't shocked me when he refers himself as the dreamy one. Earlier in the season, he said to Penny : "we're dreamers". In a way it makes sense. When you choose to be a theoretical physicist you HAVE to be very imaginative to create and articulate new theories and correlations. The biggest geniuses in our planet were big dreamers too. It is then totally IC to call himself the dreamy one because I think that in Sheldon's head, being dreamy and imaginative are genius' features.

Yes you're right, he is a dreamer and that's something you prob has to be as a psysicist.

But I think that when Sheldon says dreamy after he gets his hair styled he does not mean it as "the one who dreams", but rather "that dreamy looking one", something you usually call cute guys in boybands.

And that's what startled me just a little, in a positive way though, that Sheldon refer to himself as looking good on the outside, before he quickly adds that's he also has a beautiful mind.

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"Tonight, the duo grows even closer when Amy helps Sheldon deal with a personal crisis after he determines he's wasting his time studying string theory."

 

What? Are they mistaking Amy for Penny?

 

 

No, Amy has her part in helping as well.

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