Stefania Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Ah ah, Cecilia, I like your way of thinking. Still, ita on what koops said. I personally have a really hard time with headcanons because it feels like I'm giving the writers excuses or free passes, and I find it... just plain wrong on my part. lol I repeat, personally. If anyone else feels more comfortable by dealing with problematic aspects of something with headcanons, more power to you. I get through details, get angry, pretend to ignore, rinse and repeat ad nauseam. I also find headcanons and interpretation to be two separate things, but that's me. I also agree that Amy strangely missing so far from the helping process is... well, strange. Maybe they are leading to a resolution in the finale (we can only hope!), but still it is tiring to see storylines about these two only concentrated on "relationship" stuff. (And now I'm off, I'm sneaking this post from work and it took 45 minutes to write. Not sure it even makes sense. Bad me, bad bad.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Bringing this from the other forum _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Here's some belated BTS for last week's taping from an anonymous source: -- On first take of the School girl uniform scene, Mayim blew her line. She went back out the door and closed it. Still miked, Jim said “Don’t fire her!” and laughed. She reopened the door and said something to him that I couldn’t hear that made them both laugh, and then she closed the door to redo the scene. This was right before the take where he pulled on her tie. When they were all done shooting, she turned around and went back through the door to the stairwell and he gave her a little pat on the butt. Mayim looked so cute in the outfit. They didn’t really have any other interaction that night, Mayim was almost nowhere to be seen for most of the evening. Thanks Rach. So that explains why they did three takes. I'm so not fond of this tag scene right now at all. *Deep breath*. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 I'm still peeved over the Amy being jealous of penny line but I shall try to reserve proper anyalsis for once I've seen it, because it still doesn't make sense right now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefania Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Now, I don't want to sound like a pessimist, but I'm hoping the last two episodes get on track with what we've seen recently. As Marina said - and I could really quote every word from her post - they did improve from S6 but then plots like these happen and... all the war flashbacks come back to me and I just get anxious and scared of having to go through what we went through last year. Or just not going back to what Shamy used to be at all, which is just a frightening thought. I really want to end the season on a positive note, as it was for a good part. I really do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamyyes Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Who knows maybe they will cut that line about being jealous of Penny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldonswife Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 Bringing this from the other forum _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Here's some belated BTS for last week's taping from an anonymous source: -- On first take of the School girl uniform scene, Mayim blew her line. She went back out the door and closed it. Still miked, Jim said “Don’t fire her!” and laughed. She reopened the door and said something to him that I couldn’t hear that made them both laugh, and then she closed the door to redo the scene. This was right before the take where he pulled on her tie. When they were all done shooting, she turned around and went back through the door to the stairwell and he gave her a little pat on the butt. Mayim looked so cute in the outfit. They didn’t really have any other interaction that night, Mayim was almost nowhere to be seen for most of the evening. Omgosh!!!! .... I'll be happy for the rest of the day .... just because I know this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
totabcn Posted April 9, 2014 Posted April 9, 2014 (edited) Idk guys from what I got from the taping it gave me the vibe that Leonard was justifying her jealousy and basically saying, "really? I guess you're right but don't worry about it they're just really good friends cause they have this cool connection" and that's bs because Sheldon and Penny didn't have it easy. Not one bit. They couldn't stand each other and now he's saying they have a connection which made it sound like their super friendship was inevitable. And of course I honestly doubt they'll ever play the shenny card. And I'm not worried about them ever being involved it's just this thing the writers do where they make Amy and Leonard the bad guys and Sheldon and Penny the victims and so they have to rely on each other because obviously their SO's don't get them the way they get each other. They take enough crap from both of them give them a freaking break. Edit: on a lighter note, oh my gawd from where I was sitting I didn't see Jim giving Mayim's bum a pat! Aaaaaah man that's so cute I hope we see that in the bloopers!! Edited April 9, 2014 by totabcn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 This whole scene/episode reminds me of Molaro's interview from just before they started taping this season, where he was gushing over S/P's relationship like it was the best thing since sliced bread and everyone, interviewer included, was like "I'm sorry, what?". It just comes out of totally nowhere, like one morning they woke up and decided their relationship is just amazing and trascendental and they're the most important people in each other's lives, they took it and ran with it. It's one of those moments when the writers want to TELL YOU what things are like, because you need to GET IT, and they want you to buy it despite all evidence to the contrary. No different from Amy and Leonard TELLING YOU how much they like/love Sheldon despite it all without ever showing you Sheldon act in a way that makes you understand why these two put up with him so much. The whole thing about Penny never making Sheldon skittish is such BS in any case. Lio reminded me just the other day about how stupid that line is right now since only 4 episodes ago Penny, with ONE line, made Sheldon freak out so much over Amy having changed him that he nearly broke up with her. Again, I do think they have a special relationship, especially after bonding over Leonard being gone and missing him and how they might relate right now because of their career crisis. But the relationship they have now has been born out of years of just putting up with each other and driving each other mad and learning to adjust to each other's personality, not from some serendipitous connection. And that's what makes it a special relationship: the fact that it was difficult to start with, and these were two people who probably wouldn't have even spoken to each other twice if the circumstances were different, but they managed to see past their differences and appreciate their good sides. This whole episode, psychic included, sounds so hippy-dippy and sentimental and mopey for this show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) You know the 1st episode of the season annoyed me because it implied that Sheldon and penny had spent the summer in each others pockets, Sheldon never mentioned Amy once and when Sheldon and Penny were talking in the lounge he made it clear that he wanted her to go home with the take out drink and penny was moaning about Leonard having a good time on the boat without her I don't really think they have this super special friendship at all, sure they are friends but most of the time Lenny treat Sheldon like he's their kid and its so annoying, it used to be funny but the writers went over the top with the airport scene and made Sheldon annoying enough for even me to have to ff through it On one hand tptb are developing Sheldon but they have this leash on him so as not to do too much development Edited April 10, 2014 by rachelshamyfan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) I didn't have a problem with S/P spending the summer in each other's pockets. They're friends and they live across the hall and Penny was alone all summer. There's nothing weird with that. Amy has her job after all and she surely can't cater to all his needs driving from Glendale to his every time he needs to go shopping or be taken into work, especially because she was still at UCLA at the time. I mean, Raj did also tell Sheldon "Since Amy is out of town, would you like to join us?" implying Sheldon normally spends his time with Amy, and Shamy talked to each other before bed on the phone in that episode. So it's not like they wrote the ep like Amy didn't exist or something. What annoyed me about the whole premise is that the writers didn't even think for one second how the summer would have affected Shamy, because if S/P spend the summer in each other's pockets due to circumstances, S/A spend their lives in each other's pockets, as we have seen again and again in the last two seasons. So how they just decided to gloss over how the summer would have affected them, or even how Amy could have been involved in helping both Sheldon and Penny out in coping with missing Leonard (since she's his girlfriend and Penny is her bestie) is so absurd to me. I got over it, but seriously I still don't see the point of the whole Leonard-departure plot. I don't understand why Amy is such an afterthought and plot device in the writers' minds despite being one of the most popular characters on the show and the one that gets them plenty of media attention and award nominations. Like we always say, why don't we know anything at all about her family and her past when even Bernadette has a dad we see plenty and all characters have a very well fleshed-out family history? That's what puzzles me the most. Edited April 10, 2014 by koops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Yeah that's what I meant, why was nothing mentioned about how shamy spent the summer? Instead it was all about Sheldon and Penny I would love to know more about Amy's family! Why they never mention her father Is he still alive? Who knows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BazingaHND21 Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Ive been quiet again over the past couple of days but some of the issues and comments that have been said are extremely valid and certainly opened my eyes! Im not gonna cover old ground because really I cant add anymore to whats been said... But I just wanted to say I love you guys. You discuss things in such an indepth fashion that it makes me realise even more how much of an amazing fandom we are. For that I thank you. In other news, I believe I found a new reaction GIF that we can use for any (Silly) Shenny incident or disagreement we find with the writers etc... I swear to god, I think I laughed at this GIF for like 10 minutes... Its likes dur dur dur lovely Shamy *smiles* and then BAAM! *shock face* Stupid Shenny comment written all over his face. "Im sorry what?! Sheldon and Penny have a special connection? You aren't going to mention how much more special Amy and Sheldon's connection is? OK... I mean its wrong but if you insist" Edited April 10, 2014 by BazingaHND21 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) Ive been quiet again over the past couple of days but some of the issues and comments that have been said are extremely valid and certainly opened my eyes! Im not gonna cover old ground because really I cant add anymore to whats been said... But I just wanted to say I love you guys. You discuss things in such an indepth fashion that it makes me realise even more how much of an amazing fandom we are. For that I thank you. In other news, I believe I found a new reaction GIF that we can use for any (Silly) Shenny incident or disagreement we find with the writers etc... I swear to god, I think I laughed at this GIF for like 10 minutes... "Im sorry what?! Sheldon and Penny have a special connection? You aren't going to mention how much more special Amy and Sheldon's connection is? OK... I mean its wrong but if you insist" HAHAHA This is hilarious! I'm saving it! And fist-bump to you! I find fandom can be so therapeutic to get over spoiler rage Edited April 10, 2014 by koops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) In other news, I believe I found a new reaction GIF that we can use for any (Silly) Shenny incident or disagreement we find with the writers etc... I swear to god, I think I laughed at this GIF for like 10 minutes... Its likes dur dur dur lovely Shamy *smiles* and then BAAM! *shock face* Stupid Shenny comment written all over his face. "Im sorry what?! Sheldon and Penny have a special connection? You aren't going to mention how much more special Amy and Sheldon's connection is? OK... I mean its wrong but if you insist" Haha, perfection! So hilarious! If that's the game we're gonna play... When someone says Shamy is endgame: When an unspoiled person talks about Shamy and you have to hold back what you know: Edited April 10, 2014 by Jaime Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 LMAO you guys! These are perfect!!! And Jim is such a captain, I can so see him do that IRL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saruluvsshamy Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 lmao!!!! jim is our captain!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefania Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) I find fandom can be so therapeutic to get over spoiler rage It is! It's like going through the 5 stages of grief. ... No wonder I posted a lot after this last report! ETA: I'm in the Acceptance stage as far as 7.21 is concerned. [pats self on the back] Edited April 10, 2014 by teoriapostmoderna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Sometimes I wonder why I put myself being through spoiled but I'm too far in to it now to back away as I need to know everything NOW I remember back in s5 when I discovered the show and watched as and when and now I am officially obsessed with this wonderful show and can't wait for the next two tapings and whatever they may bring! The summer hiatus is going to kill me! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaffeineBuzz Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Ive been quiet again over the past couple of days but some of the issues and comments that have been said are extremely valid and certainly opened my eyes! Im not gonna cover old ground because really I cant add anymore to whats been said... But I just wanted to say I love you guys. You discuss things in such an indepth fashion that it makes me realise even more how much of an amazing fandom we are. For that I thank you. In other news, I believe I found a new reaction GIF that we can use for any (Silly) Shenny incident or disagreement we find with the writers etc... I swear to god, I think I laughed at this GIF for like 10 minutes... Its likes dur dur dur lovely Shamy *smiles* and then BAAM! *shock face* Stupid Shenny comment written all over his face. "Im sorry what?! Sheldon and Penny have a special connection? You aren't going to mention how much more special Amy and Sheldon's connection is? OK... I mean its wrong but if you insist" Bwa hahahahaha! Best gif ever... SOOooo many real life applications too! So, so many *lol* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 Hi eyebrows I could just stare at all day Sigh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bella Duveen Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 I think we will find out about Amy's father in S8 - somehow, I think he is key to finding out why she is as she is, or more accurately, why she was as she was when we first met her. Maybe the selfless thing that Melody mentioned Sheldon having to do is linked to him too, and will be the opening they need for a more in depth discussion/exploration of why she is holding back now from what she clearly wants. After all, he knows what it is to lose someone he loved as a child, not just once but twice, losing his grandfather and father. Even if he found it hard to get on with his father most of the time, I think he still feels that loss, and we saw a glimmer of that during the Thanksgiving episode talking about him with Mr Rostenkowski. If he can somehow help Amy to come to terms with the loss of her father, I think that would show true love and affection, and make them able to move forward as I believe they both want to now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saruluvsshamy Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 (edited) have u guys read this http://www.zap2it.com/blogs/the_big_bang_theorys_mayim_bialik_sheldon_and_amy_are_developing_as_unusually_as_we_would_expect-2014-04 "Everybody's involved in some way, that plot goes through a couple episodes. We are all trying to help him through it," says Bialik, adding that next week "there's a Penny/Sheldon split from the rest of the group for 'Anything Can Happen Thursday' ... it's a funny one." Edited April 10, 2014 by saruluvsshamy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BazingaHND21 Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 "But does she think Sheldon loves Amy? "I don't know about the L-word. We haven't really talked about it. I don't know if that's a word that Sheldon would think to use, and I don't know that it would bother Amy that he doesn't. I think she understands his quirks pretty well."" - Mayim BialikOhhhh I know a few people that wont be happy about that little comment Miss Bialik. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saruluvsshamy Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 "But does she think Sheldon loves Amy? "I don't know about the L-word. We haven't really talked about it. I don't know if that's a word that Sheldon would think to use, and I don't know that it would bother Amy that he doesn't. I think she understands his quirks pretty well."" - Mayim BialikOhhhh I know a few people that wont be happy about that little comment Miss Bialik. lol.. yeah..there is nothin much one can do about a few ppl "L" word or not... sheldon feels for her on a completely different level.. they will get there when they get there... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rachelshamyfan Posted April 10, 2014 Posted April 10, 2014 He will say it in a roundabout sort of way, its very Mayim to play down things with shamy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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