Carlos Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 The song was very well done and I just loved the background singers and the dancing going on while Howard was singing I loved the song toom and also the expression on Bernadette's face. While I like the maniacal Bernadette, I enjoy when she's being sweet much more. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyAndOatmeal Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 The episode was so good I don't even care what djpessimist says! SUCH. A. GOOD. EPISODE!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Lenny were adorable. I loved Penny's frustration when Sheldon told Amy how romantic her statement was and went "Dammit! Everyone can do this better than me!". So cute. So cute how she tried so hard for Leonard and how she kept all those keepsakes. And people say these two don't love each other? I loved the whole episode but specially the above quoted part. Simply amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilia Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 This episode turned out so much better than I expected. I can't believe the most romance-packed episode in the whole series, except for maybe the V-day ep last year, was SO full of science. This was so fantastic, a stroke of genius from the writers. The fact that they managed to have the song contain so many nerd, science-y reference and the whole "WE couldn't have imagined how good our lives would get, from the moment that we met you, Bernadette"? If that's not a jab to the haters, I don't know what it is. Fantastic episode all around. Everyone was on top form. I absolutely loved Sheldon not wanting praise for a mistake. It goes to show that for all his arrogance he does not want to claim success that isn't genuine, even though mistakes are indeed so common in science and people actually try and twist their own results all the time. It was so mature of him, I loved it. And I ADORED how Amy was the only one who was able to say what he needed to hear! That is the Shamy-connection I always talk about and that I missed so much from last season: not her rolling her eyes at him or handling him the way everyone else does, but handling him the way SHE knows how to handle him and that nobody else but Sheldon gets. Fantastic. Lenny were adorable. I loved Penny's frustration when Sheldon told Amy how romantic her statement was and went "Dammit! Everyone can do this better than me!". So cute. So cute how she tried so hard for Leonard and how she kept all those keepsakes. And people say these two don't love each other? The song... oh my! I was expecting something cheesy and cringeworthy but it was fantastic, so in tune with the show's nature. Maybe it was a little bit too long, but I loved it nonetheless, and I'm sure I will listen to it again and again and again. The friendship in that scene was just as touching as Howard's romantic gesture for Bernie. Loved it, fantastic episode. Maybe the best of the season so far? eta: Rewatched the last scene again and how on Earth does Mayim blush on command? I swear it looks like she is blushing on the couch scene! I finally watched the episode and you pretty much covered everything I wanted to say so I am quoting your post.. Just wanted to add a few things. The one thing I didn't like is Sheldon saying ''now I'm worst than a fraud I'm practically a biologist''.. Come on Sheldon just admit it BIOLOGISTS ARE COOL!!!!!!! I love Simon's voice (seriously the writers are brilliant they managed to transform Howard from being creepy to being loving and romantic!!) and I would like an episode with Amy, Sheldon and Howard singning together!!! Mayim nailed the episode!! Sheldon and his brain yeah! is so becoming my new ringtone!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 The episode was so good I don't even care what djpessimist says! Come on guys, let's not start piling on djvang. he is entittled to his own opinion after all. I couldn't disagree more with it, but.... I just loved how all of the cast showed their romantic side according to who they are and the stage their relationship is at. For me it was an episode that had everything. Very good indeed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 This episode turned out so much better than I expected. I can't believe the most romance-packed episode in the whole series, except for maybe the V-day ep last year, was SO full of science. This was so fantastic, a stroke of genius from the writers. The fact that they managed to have the song contain so many nerd, science-y reference and the whole "WE couldn't have imagined how good our lives would get, from the moment that we met you, Bernadette"? If that's not a jab to the haters, I don't know what it is. Fantastic episode all around. Everyone was on top form. I absolutely loved Sheldon not wanting praise for a mistake. It goes to show that for all his arrogance he does not want to claim success that isn't genuine, even though mistakes are indeed so common in science and people actually try and twist their own results all the time. It was so mature of him, I loved it. And I ADORED how Amy was the only one who was able to say what he needed to hear! That is the Shamy-connection I always talk about and that I missed so much from last season: not her rolling her eyes at him or handling him the way everyone else does, but handling him the way SHE knows how to handle him and that nobody else but Sheldon gets. Fantastic. Lenny were adorable. I loved Penny's frustration when Sheldon told Amy how romantic her statement was and went "Dammit! Everyone can do this better than me!". So cute. So cute how she tried so hard for Leonard and how she kept all those keepsakes. And people say these two don't love each other? The song... oh my! I was expecting something cheesy and cringeworthy but it was fantastic, so in tune with the show's nature. Maybe it was a little bit too long, but I loved it nonetheless, and I'm sure I will listen to it again and again and again. The friendship in that scene was just as touching as Howard's romantic gesture for Bernie. Loved it, fantastic episode. Maybe the best of the season so far? eta: Rewatched the last scene again and how on Earth does Mayim blush on command? I swear it looks like she is blushing on the couch scene! I really do agree with most of what you said here and I think you have put it very well. The one bit that I am sort of mystified by is here So cute how she tried so hard for Leonard and how she kept all those keepsakes. And people say these two don't love each other? I was not quite sure by what you meant by "tried so hard for Leonard". I recall she tried to get some ideas from Raj which was kind of humorous. The keepsakes shows something but I am not sure exactly what. I think it is intended to show her affection towards Leonard but on the other hand there was an episode where Sheldon sorts Penny's closet. He does not know what to do with the dead goldfish that she forgot she had. If the old junk (Leonard keepsakes) ended up in a box one might think the box was actually put together by Sheldon who just put junk related to Leonard together in a box. I don't know what the old pregnancy test says to anyone else but to me it seems odd to save a negative pregnancy test as a symbol of love. I guess that is what reminded me of the dead goldfish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyAndOatmeal Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Come on guys, let's not start piling on djvang. he is entittled to his own opinion after all. I couldn't disagree more with it, but.... I just loved how all of the cast showed their romantic side according to who they are and the stage their relationship is at. For me it was an episode that had everything. Very good indeed. Lighten up, will ya? It's all in jest! Keep the spirits up on this thread Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest I'm not dead Cheryl Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I really do agree with most of what you said here and I think you have put it very well. The one bit that I am sort of mystified by is here I was not quite sure by what you meant by "tried so hard for Leonard". I recall she tried to get some ideas from Raj which was kind of humorous. The keepsakes shows something but I am not sure exactly what. I think it is intended to show her affection towards Leonard but on the other hand there was an episode where Sheldon sorts Penny's closet. He does not know what to do with the dead goldfish that she forgot she had. If the old junk (Leonard keepsakes) ended up in a box one might think the box was actually put together by Sheldon who just put junk related to Leonard together in a box. I don't know what the old pregnancy test says to anyone else but to me it seems odd to save a negative pregnancy test as a symbol of love. I guess that is what reminded me of the dead goldfish. Sheldon couldn't have known which things were Leonard keepsakes and what wasn't. that box had to be put together by Penny, maybe it was the only thing she kept in "order" if you must. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyAndOatmeal Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I think Penny keeping the test was supposed to be odd because it was supposed to be funny. After all, she hasn't kept ALL of them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) I finally watched the episode and you pretty much covered everything I wanted to say so I am quoting your post.. Just wanted to add a few things. The one thing I didn't like is Sheldon saying ''now I'm worst than a fraud I'm practically a biologist''.. Come on Sheldon just admit it BIOLOGISTS ARE COOL!!!!!!! I love Simon's voice (seriously the writers are brilliant they managed to transform Howard from being creepy to being loving and romantic!!) and I would like an episode with Amy, Sheldon and Howard singning together!!! Mayim nailed the episode!! Sheldon and his brain yeah! is so becoming my new ringtone!!!!! Just thought I'd comment on Sheldon's Biologist comment. To me it does seem like a very dumb thing to say but would seem to be in the vein as Nobel Prize winner Ernest Rutherford (see http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Ernest_Rutherford ) All science is either physics or stamp collecting. As quoted in Rutherford at Manchester (1962) by J. B. Birks Unsourced variants: That which is not measurable is not science. That which is not physics is stamp collecting. Physics is the only real science. The rest are just stamp collecting. Edited October 25, 2013 by djsurrey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Worst. Episode. Ever. They've finally reached "The gang puts on a variety show" stage. Time for Cousin Oliver to show up. Those who say I just hate the show are wrong. But I DID hate this episode. Somehow I knew this was coming! LOL! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Worst. Episode. Ever. They've finally reached "The gang puts on a variety show" stage. Time for Cousin Oliver to show up. Those who say I just hate the show are wrong. But I DID hate this episode. Don't think it was the worst episode ever. I will say the song went a little long IMO. I do get "the gang puts on a variety show" comment but it's something that they don't do every week. While I generally thought the episode was really good someone has to try to explain to me why is everyone going gaga over the tag. It was an Amy fantasy of what she would like to happen with Sheldon. Nothing new and very predictable.IMO it's just a way of making you think their relationship is advancing when it really isn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I really do agree with most of what you said here and I think you have put it very well. The one bit that I am sort of mystified by is here I was not quite sure by what you meant by "tried so hard for Leonard". I recall she tried to get some ideas from Raj which was kind of humorous. The keepsakes shows something but I am not sure exactly what. I think it is intended to show her affection towards Leonard but on the other hand there was an episode where Sheldon sorts Penny's closet. He does not know what to do with the dead goldfish that she forgot she had. If the old junk (Leonard keepsakes) ended up in a box one might think the box was actually put together by Sheldon who just put junk related to Leonard together in a box. I don't know what the old pregnancy test says to anyone else but to me it seems odd to save a negative pregnancy test as a symbol of love. I guess that is what reminded me of the dead goldfish. I meant that she was really taking it hard that she couldn't come up with something romantic to do for him. I loved to see how she really wanted to show him that she can do it too (and therefore to show how much she loves him) and kept coming up short until she actually stopped trying and accidentally ended up touching Leonard very deeply. And I agree with Sursonica that this box must have been put together by Penny, not Sheldon. I think the pregnancy tests were only meant to be a joke, really. I found it hilarious. Regarding your Nobel Prize quote, sadly, I have met many a physicist in real life who think that they're the only ones doing real science. Sheldon is most definitely not alone. As much as Feynman is one of my favorite scientists ever, there are several passages in The Pleasure of Finding Things Out where he makes similar comments. That's why, at the cost of sounding like a broken record, I would really love for Sheldon and Amy to work on a project together and for Sheldon to accidentally win his one and only Nobel in Physiology and Medicine. That would give him what he longs for the most and kick him off his Physics pedestal at the same time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razberrypie Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) someone has to try to explain to me why is everyone going gaga over the tag. It was an Amy fantasy of what she would like to happen with Sheldon. Nothing new and very predictable.IMO it's just a way of making you think their relationship is advancing when it really isn't. You have no interest in shamy whatsoever. It's understandable. If you really want to know and you can't be bothered to check around for answers, I'll sum it up, we like it because: a. We know Amy wants it, but to see a scenario before our eyes was just cool. Who doesn't like looking at pretty things? b. Probable foreshadowing (wooo). c. It showed us how Amy would react to a situation like that and it was awesome (just like watching the beauty that was Mayim's acting), she was all nervous and excited instead of throwing him onto the ground like a complete horndog. It's nice to be reminded that we're not crazy and the people who accuse her of such things are being stupid heads. (I had to edit this because putting a "B" and a bracket together makes a smiley face with sunglasses, lol) Edited October 25, 2013 by Razberrypie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Pollard Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Somehow I knew this was coming! LOL! He should just pre-post "Worst. Episode. Ever." in every new episode thread and save himself some time (because for someone who claims he doesn't hate the show, he sure spends a lot of time... well, hating the show). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsurrey Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I meant that she was really taking it hard that she couldn't come up with something romantic to do for him. I loved to see how she really wanted to show him that she can do it too (and therefore to show how much she loves him) and kept coming up short until she actually stopped trying and accidentally ended up touching Leonard very deeply. And I agree with Sursonica that this box must have been put together by Penny, not Sheldon. I think the pregnancy tests were only meant to be a joke, really. I found it hilarious. Regarding your Nobel Prize quote, sadly, I have met many a physicist in real life who think that they're the only ones doing real science. Sheldon is most definitely not alone. As much as Feynman is one of my favorite scientists ever, there are several passages in The Pleasure of Finding Things Out where he makes similar comments. That's why, at the cost of sounding like a broken record, I would really love for Sheldon and Amy to work on a project together and for Sheldon to accidentally win his one and only Nobel in Physiology and Medicine. That would give him what he longs for the most and kick him off his Physics pedestal at the same time. Yes I think that would be awesome. The standard model of particle physics is an amazing development but it cannot predict the emergent properties of chunks of condensed matter. Much less does it predict biology. Yet there are elements in biology that can only be explained by quantum mechanics. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130620142932.htm As for neuroscience you have a much better handle on the connections there than I do. I do believe that collaborations produce results that could not have occurred otherwise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Pail Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I think one of the best episodes of the whole series might be a godd reason for my first post. "The Romance Resonance" is one of those very special episodes, that do more than make you laugh. It inspires you and builds a bridge between the TV- and the real world, so you wish you´d be one these people, a friend of theirs (I know, I sound a little bit like Stuart from the comic book store). I actually lost count, how many times I listened to Howards song. It´s just.... perfect. btw: today was one of the best and one of the worst days about "The Big Bang Theory" for me. It started great with this new episode, but later I found the unaired pilot and watched that. I´m sure I´ll have nightmares tonight because of what I saw there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chrismo Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 You have no interest in shamy whatsoever. It's understandable. If you really want to know and you can't be bothered to check around for answers, I'll sum it up, we like it because: a. We know Amy wants it, but to see a scenario before our eyes was just cool. Who doesn't like looking at pretty things? b. Probable foreshadowing (wooo). c. It showed us how Amy would react to a situation like that and it was awesome (just like watching the beauty that was Mayim's acting), she was all nervous and excited instead of throwing him onto the ground like a complete horndog. It's nice to be reminded that we're not crazy and the people who accuse her of such things are being stupid heads. (I had to edit this because putting a "B" and a bracket together makes a smiley face with sunglasses, lol) a. I know the scenerio. b.The foreshadowing IMO is overdone c. Again her reaction to the situation is not surprising. Although i admit I don't have the interest in the shamy as much as you it doesnt mean I have no interest. It seems to me you have to like all the characters to watch the show. And I'll apologize now before I type it but all this shamy analyzing much be a chick thing.LOL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koops Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 (edited) a. I know the scenerio. b.The foreshadowing IMO is overdone c. Again her reaction to the situation is not surprising. Although i admit I don't have the interest in the shamy as much as you it doesnt mean I have no interest. It seems to me you have to like all the characters to watch the show. And I'll apologize now before I type it but all this shamy analyzing much be a chick thing.LOL Aren't you a cute little lump of fun. LOL. Yes I think that would be awesome. The standard model of particle physics is an amazing development but it cannot predict the emergent properties of chunks of condensed matter. Much less does it predict biology. Yet there are elements in biology that can only be explained by quantum mechanics. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/06/130620142932.htm As for neuroscience you have a much better handle on the connections there than I do. I do believe that collaborations produce results that could not have occurred otherwise. Oh trust me, I have a bunch of possible projects already mapped out in my head! LOL. If only I could send it to TPTB! What I mean isn't so much about applying physics per-se as to apply Sheldon's skills in developing mathematical models and applying it to biology. Like I mentioned in the science thread, there are tons of theoretical neuroscientists who are by background theoretical physicists. Yes, one way to do that could be to apply statistical mechanics/Bayesian stats to explain how the brain/cell populations/neurons tries to maintain homeostasis by reducing prediction errors. But even without that particular topic, you can have him simply help out with the maths from a skill set standpoint and she could be testing out predictions experimentally. I originally had an idea for how they could do that with her addictions studies (dopamine is involved in reward and there's tons of literature on reward prediction error modeling in DA neurons in the basal ganglia), but it could be done on something else too. eta: The scenario would be funny also if he thinks with his genius he should be able to do it quite easily, but in reality predicting neuronal interaction is a mess because of the number of connections involved so it'd be funny to see him struggle with it and get some respect for biology, even if not a Nobel prize. I think that's better suited to teach him a lesson than having him wash beakers and attempt to slice the locus coeruleus out of a brain. That just requires practice, to be honest, not so much intelligence. Edited October 25, 2013 by koops Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantagrae Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 I loved this episode--so much fun, so much science, so much romance (conventional and unconventional)!! I totally don't get the "variety show" comment--they did ONE SONG, in a scene where it made sense to do so. It's not as if they were singing and dancing and doing a musical episode. It was one freaking song! And I think the song was cute and clever, with the science references, the Klingon phrase, and the gang as backup singers. I do kind of wish we would have been able to see a version of it with the instrumental accompaniment, but I'm sure that would have been more impractical and awkward, given the combination of instruments the gang had. LOL! Kate Micucci and her comedy partner (the Nowitzki actress whose name I can never remember) wrote it and it's going to be available for download as a charity fundraiser. I'm buying it! I love the way Howard/Simon gets all choked up at the end. Very sweet without being sappy. I just loved Sheldon's arc in this episode, from being proud of his accomplishment to being ashamed of the accident/mistake that led to it, and not wanting to take credit he didn't deserve. And I love that Amy was the one who truly understood and spoke plainly to him about it--and that he loved that she did so. And that she made the cut for his tree fort. LOL! Just a great episode, all around. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djvang Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 He should just pre-post "Worst. Episode. Ever." in every new episode thread and save himself some time (because for someone who claims he doesn't hate the show, he sure spends a lot of time... well, hating the show). I thought the first 3 episodes of this season were very good. But I guess an inconvenient fact like that won't get in the way of your hatred for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cecilia Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 And I think the song was cute and clever, with the science references, the Klingon phrase, and the gang as backup singers. I do kind of wish we would have been able to see a version of it with the instrumental accompaniment, but I'm sure that would have been more impractical and awkward, given the combination of instruments the gang had. LOL! Me too!!! I was under the impression that they would be like a band or something. And I admit it I was just dying to see Amy playing the harp again!!! I can't get enough of that!! And I wouldn't mind Sheldon playing the bongos ( <3 ) or Leonard playing the cello. In fact I remembered that song he made for Penny ''sorry Alex hit on me, hit on me'' and it plays on my head all day!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollyAndOatmeal Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Just watched this epi again, and it may be my new favourite of the season. There's just too many positive feels going on! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razberrypie Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 a. I know the scenerio. b.The foreshadowing IMO is overdone c. Again her reaction to the situation is not surprising. Although i admit I don't have the interest in the shamy as much as you it doesnt mean I have no interest. It seems to me you have to like all the characters to watch the show. And I'll apologize now before I type it but all this shamy analyzing much be a chick thing.LOL I know you know the scenario, we all know the scenario, you missed my point entirely. I'll try to give an example - I'm sure that people know the most beautiful painting in the world exists somewhere, but it's not so interesting until you get to glimpse at it for yourself, even if it's just a picture and not the real thing. Of course those that don't give a flying toss about paintings wouldn't bat an eyelid at such a thing, but surely it's common sense to know that painting enthusiasts might enjoy it? And now that we've seen the picture, we're even more excited to see the real thing. Looking isn't always analysing. ...I'm not even going to bother addressing the other points. You seem to think I'm trying to force you share our opinions to understand them, that certainly isn't the case. Is it really that hard for you to simply acknowledge why we liked the scene? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stardustmelody Posted October 25, 2013 Posted October 25, 2013 Aren't you a cute little lump of fun. LOL. Oh trust me, I have a bunch of possible projects already mapped out in my head! LOL. If only I could send it to TPTB! What I mean isn't so much about applying physics per-se as to apply Sheldon's skills in developing mathematical models and applying it to biology. Like I mentioned in the science thread, there are tons of theoretical neuroscientists who are by background theoretical physicists. Yes, one way to do that could be to apply statistical mechanics/Bayesian stats to explain how the brain/cell populations/neurons tries to maintain homeostasis by reducing prediction errors. But even without that particular topic, you can have him simply help out with the maths from a skill set standpoint and she could be testing out predictions experimentally. I originally had an idea for how they could do that with her addictions studies (dopamine is involved in reward and there's tons of literature on reward prediction error modeling in DA neurons in the basal ganglia), but it could be done on something else too. eta: The scenario would be funny also if he thinks with his genius he should be able to do it quite easily, but in reality predicting neuronal interaction is a mess because of the number of connections involved so it'd be funny to see him struggle with it and get some respect for biology, even if not a Nobel prize. I think that's better suited to teach him a lesson than having him wash beakers and attempt to slice the locus coeruleus out of a brain. That just requires practice, to be honest, not so much intelligence. Bravo! Great scenarios! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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