Episodes 7.08 "the Itchy Brain Simulation" (November 14)

[Guest I'm not dead Cheryl]

You're right that there is no turning back. If this forum is an accurate sample of the total viewing audience then most viewers are desperate for Shamy coitus at some point. But I don't see how they do that without completing the destruction of original Sheldon. How do they follow it up? It would almost have to be done in the final episode of the series, which means delaying it for at least two more seasons. How do they play out the sex-starved Amy bit that long?

 

The fact that you don't see it doesn't mean that they can't do it. The same thing was said before Amy showed up about "Sheldon in a relationship is gonna be the end of Sheldon". It wasn't. Sheldon is a character with many more traits, idiosyncrasies and qualities than "is a virgin". I know is hard for the Sheldon Purists to even imagine, but, again, being a virgin is not his only character trait, therefore, if handled well, of course the character could survive it, as Howard's character survived being turn from the sleazebag in Season 1-3 to a man in a committed relationship and then married, and in the case of Howard, being a sleazebag was a much bigger part of the character than the "being a virgin" is to Sheldon-.

[Disgusted]

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Edited November 18, 2013 by Disgusted

[Dracones]

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Epic.

[SodidIwin?]

The fact that you don't see it doesn't mean that they can't do it. The same thing was said before Amy showed up about "Sheldon in a relationship is gonna be the end of Sheldon". It wasn't. Sheldon is a character with many more traits, idiosyncrasies and qualities than "is a virgin". I know is hard for the Sheldon Purists to even imagine, but, again, being a virgin is not his only character trait, therefore, if handled well, of course the character could survive it, as Howard's character survived being turn from the sleazebag in Season 1-3 to a man in a committed relationship and then married, and in the case of Howard, being a sleazebag was a much bigger part of the character than the "being a virgin" is to Sheldon-.

You are absolutely correct in saying Sheldon is much more than a virgin. His other qualities include: conceited, annoying, pestering, egotistical, self centered, revengeful, and vindictive, just to state a few.

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Leonard should have ran as fast as he could out of the apartment when he saw the writing on the wall. However, then we never would have had Lenny!

But that may be how the writers plan on eventually ending the series. The series ends with Leonard going into Sheldon's room, you hear a loud cry "No don't little buddy. I didn't mean it" and then a shot, Leonard cries out "Yes! Finally!" And the screen turns to black!

Edited November 18, 2013 by SodidIwin?

[Chiany]

You are absolutely correct in saying Sheldon is much more than a virgin. His other qualities include: conceited, annoying, pestering, egotistical, self centered, revengeful, and vindictive, just to state a few.

Leonard should have ran as fast as he could out of the apartment when that. However, then we never would have had Lenny!

 

Where is your sarcasm sign?

[SodidIwin?]

Where is your sarcasm sign?

Sorry, I seem to have misplaced it!

[Guest I'm not dead Cheryl]

You are absolutely correct in saying Sheldon is much more than a virgin. His other qualities include: conceited, annoying, pestering, egotistical, self centered, revengeful, and vindictive, just to state a few.

 

 

Yes. I am in now way, shape, or form, a Sheldon apologist. Since he is not my favorite character at all I think I can speak about him objectively.

 

I don't subscribe to "Sheldon is untouchable, and perfect and he should remain in a crystal case forever" neither I am camp "Sheldon must die and suffer for all he did to Leonard".

 

He is a character, a good one, with flaws and virtues like all the other characters on the show. Period.

[Moonbase]

No kidding your not a Sheldon fan, you're an Amy fan but you're wrong! Sheldon made this show and the writers are well aware of this. He is the main focus of almost every episode they have written for the last seven years. Just another character!

Edited November 18, 2013 by Moonbase

[Spaced_up]

No kidding your not a Sheldon fan, you're an Amy fan but you're wrong! Sheldon made this show and the writers are well aware of this. He is the main focus of almost every episode they have written for the last seven years. Just another character!

 

Yes he is. It never ceases to amaze me how little shamy's really care about Sheldon. The character is being turned into a child and they think this is fine and dandy, as long as Amy gets what she wants. It's all about her needs and the fact Sheldon's not giving it to her. 

[Moonbase]

Yes he is. It never ceases to amaze me how little shamy's really care about Sheldon. The character is being turned into a child and they think this is fine and dandy, as long as Amy gets what she wants. It's all about her needs and the fact Sheldon's not giving it to her.

And downplaying Sheldon's significance to the show! That's what gets me.

[Disgusted]

You are absolutely correct in saying Sheldon is much more than a virgin. His other qualities include: conceited, annoying, pestering, egotistical, self centered, revengeful, and vindictive, just to state a few.

Leonard should have ran as fast as he could out of the apartment when he saw the writing on the wall. However, then we never would have had Lenny!

But that may be how the writers plan on eventually ending the series. The series ends with Leonard going into Sheldon's room, you hear a loud cry "No don't little buddy. I didn't mean it" and then a shot, Leonard cries out "Yes! Finally!" And the screen turns to black!

 

 

Shootin's too good for him....   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUVqWHzRv1E    WARNING ADULT SITUATION AND LANGUAGE.

[Count Wally de Honk]

The fact that you don't see it doesn't mean that they can't do it. The same thing was said before Amy showed up about "Sheldon in a relationship is gonna be the end of Sheldon". It wasn't. Sheldon is a character with many more traits, idiosyncrasies and qualities than "is a virgin". I know is hard for the Sheldon Purists to even imagine, but, again, being a virgin is not his only character trait, therefore, if handled well, of course the character could survive it, as Howard's character survived being turn from the sleazebag in Season 1-3 to a man in a committed relationship and then married, and in the case of Howard, being a sleazebag was a much bigger part of the character than the "being a virgin" is to Sheldon-.

 

Alas Sursonica, I must raise a quibble over this specific matter. Of course it’s all just an opinion, and it seems we agree on other matters, thank the good lord.

I mentioned this in the S and P shippers thread. Howard did not change his mannerisms, idiosyncrasies, speech patterns or body language. Sheldon changed them all rather abruptly, because it strikes me that Jim Parsons was feeling tethered to his role and the producers feared losing him. It was neither a natural change, nor an artistic one.

I can assure you that as a Sheldon “purist” myself, I don’t give a jar of gnat’s piss whether he’s a virgin or not. Whether he’s behaving in a manner consistent with his original creation is another matter entirely. And other than one or two episodes at the beginning of S7, he isn’t. And hasn’t been for two seasons.

Also, if I might put in a point for the Sheldon “purists”,

It’s not so much wanting to keep Sheldon in a glass case, as wanting him to change in a manner consistent with his heritage and conception.

The rather arbitrary handling of him has raised our ire, that’s all.

Otherwise, I do recognise the validity of your objective stance of being neither for nor against.

[Guest I'm not dead Cheryl]

No kidding your not a Sheldon fan, you're an Amy fan but you're wrong! Sheldon made this show and the writers are well aware of this. He is the main focus of almost every episode they have written for the last seven years. Just another character!

 

That doesn't make my opinion any less valid.

 

It is true that his character pretty much predated the other two lead characters of the show. I'm not denying that.

He is the most recognizable and popular character, I'm not denying that either.

 

But when you start relegating the plots and overall narrative of the story to make it so that the beloved character stays the same always "because he's untouchable as a character" and you start to overexploit him to milk it for all it's worth, you start having problems.

 

You start having problems like the ones the writers have had all over these years on the balancing of the plot lines. You start having the overuse of Sheldon we've had (especially S3) that was the root cause of his caricaturization. You start having his traits exhacerbated by the need of making him even more central that he actually is. I've even seen complaining about the overuse of Sheldon by people whose favorite character IS Sheldon, because of this so I don't think it's only me the one who sees it.

The writers are in a crux with Sheldon and is understandable. On one hand, they have this concept of him being "the untouchable sacred character" of the show, while on the other, they have the need to tell new stories.

 

To write stories where a character doens't learn anything or evolves is extremely limiting. Repetition becomes the norm and the character behaviours that were once funny or endearing end up becoming annoying and aggravating. Sheldon being vindictive, for example, it was funny once... it was done again, and it was fun... but by the 5th time it starts to paint the character as mean-spirited, because we already had all the other times he'd done it before. Is not fresh anymore, and the suspension of disbelief is harder to mantain after several repetitions.

 

I think it's funny, from the outside of the Sheldon camp to see, on the same alledged camp, people complaining that he's changed too much and people complaining that he's not changing at all. All from within Sheldonopolis.

I can see people complaining for Sheldon being "more of a jerk" and "having lost his innocence" when, objecitvely, his actions are still like the ones on earlier seasons.

 

From my point of view, that stems from repetition, but some people won't see it that way. Sheldon making rude comments about Leonard's carreer has been there since S1, for example. The same people who thinks those were hilarious, now don't like them any more and claim for the beheading of the writers on the claims of them changing the character. But they haven't changed the character. That's precisely the problem. By keeping him the same, and making the same comments over and over again, it takes a different connotation, innocence is no longer an option when a character has tripped with the same stone dozens of times. The only implication starts to be that he really likes kicking the stone.

 

There are times, however, when the writers dare to go a step forward and make steps like Sheldon's "please don't hurt my friend" like to Penny. But due to their own fear of "changing the sacred and special snowflake that is Sheldon" they backtrack and cover it up with jokes and digs from Sheldon to Leonard erasing with the elbow what they just wrote with the hand. And again, that backtracking and erasing is what is doing the character more harm than good. All in the name of keeping him the same.

 

No character should be sacred. Sacred characters make for bad storytelling (and that goes for every single character of the show, btw, even my favorite character).

 

@Count, I agree with your opinion, although partially. I agree that his mannerisms and body language, among other details of his characterization have changed. I do not, however, attribute such changes, like many of the "Sheldon purists" and the "anti-relationship crowd" (which are not the same, but if we were to diagram those groups in a Venn fashion, they would certainly overlap in one area) to the "relationships" or any girlfriend, etc. I attribute those changes to the overuse and exploitation of the supposedly untouchable Sheldon and to the boredom of the actor of having to play the character the same way. They're not giving him different materian in regards of growth of the character. Jim is most certainly trying to give the same lines a different twist in an effort to keep Sheldon from being too repetitive. But I think it'rs reached a point when is not possible anymore.

Edited November 18, 2013 by Sursonica

[Stefania]

That doesn't make my opinion any less valid.

It is true that his character pretty much predated the other two lead characters of the show. I'm not denying that.

He is the most recognizable and popular character, I'm not denying that either.

But when you start relegating the plots and overall narrative of the story to make it so that the beloved character stays the same always "because he's untouchable as a character" and you start to overexploit him to milk it for all it's worth, you start having problems.

You start having problems like the ones the writers have had all over these years on the balancing of the plot lines. You start having the overuse of Sheldon we've had (especially S3) that was the root cause of his caricaturization. You start having his traits exhacerbated by the need of making him even more central that he actually is. I've even seen complaining about the overuse of Sheldon by people whose favorite character IS Sheldon, because of this so I don't think it's only me the one who sees it.

The writers are in a crux with Sheldon and is understandable. On one hand, they have this concept of him being "the untouchable sacred character" of the show, while on the other, they have the need to tell new stories.

To write stories where a character doens't learn anything or evolves is extremely limiting. Repetition becomes the norm and the character behaviours that were once funny or endearing end up becoming annoying and aggravating. Sheldon being vindictive, for example, it was funny once... it was done again, and it was fun... but by the 5th time it starts to paint the character as mean-spirited, because we already had all the other times he'd done it before. Is not fresh anymore, and the suspension of disbelief is harder to mantain after several repetitions.

I think it's funny, from the outside of the Sheldon camp to see, on the same alledged camp, people complaining that he's changed too much and people complaining that he's not changing at all. All from within Sheldonopolis.

I can see people complaining for Sheldon being "more of a jerk" and "having lost his innocence" when, objecitvely, his actions are still like the ones on earlier seasons.

From my point of view, that stems from repetition, but some people won't see it that way. Sheldon making rude comments about Leonard's carreer has been there since S1, for example. The same people who thinks those were hilarious, now don't like them any more and claim for the beheading of the writers on the claims of them changing the character. But they haven't changed the character. That's precisely the problem. By keeping him the same, and making the same comments over and over again, it takes a different connotation, innocence is no longer an option when a character has tripped with the same stone dozens of times. The only option starts to be that he really likes kicking the stone.

There are times, however, when the writers dare to go a step forward and make steps like Sheldon's "please don't hurt my friend" like to Penny. But due to their own fear of "changing the sacred and special snowflake that is Sheldon" they backtrack and cover it up with jokes and digs from Sheldon to Leonard erasing with the elbow what they just wrote with the hand. And again, that backtracking and erasing is what is doing the character more harm than good. All in the name of keeping him the same.

No character should be sacred. Sacred characters make for bad storytelling (and that goes for every single character of the show, btw, even my favorite character).

@Count, I agree with your opinion, although partially. I agree that his mannerisms and body language, among other details of his characterization have changed. I do not, however, attribute such changes, like many of the "Sheldon purists" and the "anti-relationship crowd" (which are not the same, but if we were to diagram those groups in a Venn fashion, they would certainly overlap in one area) to the "relationships" or any girlfriend, etc. I attribute those changes to the overuse and exploitation of the supposedly untouchable Sheldon and to the boredom of the actor of having to play the character the same way. They're not giving him different materian in regards of growth of the character. Jim is most certainly trying to give the same lines a different twist in an effort to keep Sheldon from being too repetitive. But I think it'rs reached a point when is not possible anymore.

I never comment here but I just wanted to say I agree with every word. Sheldon's problems as an "unchangeable character" started in S3, before Amy was introduced.

This coming from a Sheldon fan that is also a Shamy shipper.

[Disgusted]

All we are saying is that every change seems to be for the worse. That's just an opinion, of course. What's "better" about Sheldon? That he's trying???  A man's got to know his limitations. Sheldon used to.....

[Guest I'm not dead Cheryl]

All we are saying is that every change seems to be for the worse. That's just an opinion, of course. What's "better" about Sheldon? That he's trying???  A man's got to know his limitations. Sheldon used to.....

 

Well, as stated above, my opinion on the matter is that every change seems to be for the worse, because every change and advancement they make, they backtrack and erase on next episode. That's, to me, the problem with Sheldon. Because he changes for an episode, and then the famous "reset" button is hit. That doesn't make for an organic and natural development, it makes for confusing and all-over-the-place Sheldon.

 

i.e: Please don't hurt my friend vs well, pretty much everything that happenned after that between Sheldon & Leonard.

i.e.: Sheldon enjoying Penny's friendship while Leoanrd was away and having heartfelt moments vs. treating her as a dumb-slut next episode- the rest of the season.

i.e.: His admission to L& P about him considering a physical aspect of his relationship with Amy + his admittance of the feeling of intimacy and how much he is "fond of Amy" / and him saying how much he values their relationship vs him being exasperated by Amy's presence, his oblivious comments about not reaching "satisfaction" and his rather agrresive tone with her.

[sarah7]

 

@Count, I agree with your opinion, although partially. I agree that his mannerisms and body language, among other details of his characterization have changed. I do not, however, attribute such changes, like many of the "Sheldon purists" and the "anti-relationship crowd" (which are not the same, but if we were to diagram those groups in a Venn fashion, they would certainly overlap in one area) to the "relationships" or any girlfriend, etc. I attribute those changes to the overuse and exploitation of the supposedly untouchable Sheldon and to the boredom of the actor of having to play the character the same way. They're not giving him different materian in regards of growth of the character. Jim is most certainly trying to give the same lines a different twist in an effort to keep Sheldon from being too repetitive. But I think it'rs reached a point when is not possible anymore.

 

Sursonica, I agree with your whole post, but specially with this last part. It's quite evident the character of Sheldon is having serious problems in characterization and consistency, but I've always failed to see how all this is "the girlfriend's fault!!!!!!!"

I mean, I know there are some folks here who greatly dislike the girls' addition and a few of them who specially hate Amy with a passion, but I think they are projecting that hate and blaming her for everything and particularly the "awful changes" their beloved Sheldon is going through.

I've read many times that they are making him "lose his innocence", "making him a douche so the audience takes sides with the girlfriend", well, I'm sorry, but I don't see enough evidence to support that.

 

I don't see a masterplan behind the Sheldon problem, I don't think they are doing all this stuff with him with the evil plan of sexualizing him enough to make it believable for him to be in a physical relationship with any woman, in fact, sometimes I see it more difficult than ever! who would want to be with such a gigantic jerk who also is a giant baby? one that one week is a lovely guy and the next one is a depicable douche?

 

I see this situation as the result of the wearing out of the character, the overuse he had suffered and, instead of the efforts to change him, the tremendous fear of letting him evolve, hence the constant backtracking he is going trough.

 

I fact, I'm venturing to say that even if Amy (or any girlfriend) would had never been introduced, we would have been talking about the very same issues (or worse) with Sheldon, the character lacks natural progression, they want him to continue doing and saying the same things over and over, there's a point when things stop being funny and start being just annoying.

Edited November 18, 2013 by sarah7

[djvang]

Well, as stated above, my opinion on the matter is that every change seems to be for the worse, because every change and advancement they make, they backtrack and erase on next episode. That's, to me, the problem with Sheldon. Because he changes for an episode, and then the famous "reset" button is hit. That doesn't make for an organic and natural development, it makes for confusing and all-over-the-place Sheldon.

 

i.e: Please don't hurt my friend vs well, pretty much everything that happenned after that between Sheldon & Leonard.

i.e.: Sheldon enjoying Penny's friendship while Leoanrd was away and having heartfelt moments vs. treating her as a dumb-slut next episode- the rest of the season.

i.e.: His admission to L& P about him considering a physical aspect of his relationship with Amy + his admittance of the feeling of intimacy and how much he is "fond of Amy" / and him saying how much he values their relationship vs him being exasperated by Amy's presence, his oblivious comments about not reaching "satisfaction" and his rather agrresive tone with her.

I thought the writers had bought themselves some time with the last scene of last season by letting everyone know that eventually Sheldon would give in to Amy's desires and Amy would be patient with him. But this season they've reverted back to sex-starved Amy making a frustrated comment every episode. It's like they feel they have to keep dangling that bone in front of the Shamys to keep them from revolting over lack of progress on the coitus front.

[Disgusted]

 

I mean, I know there are some folks here who greatly dislike the girls' addition and a few of them who specially hate Amy with a passion, but I think they are projecting that hate and blaming her for everything and particularly the "awful changes" their beloved Sheldon is going through.

 

 

I have no problem with Amy, when she starts talking about monkeys, it always cracks me up. Tragic and hysterical. I would vote Raj off the island before Amy.

[Cecilia]

Well, as stated above, my opinion on the matter is that every change seems to be for the worse, because every change and advancement they make, they backtrack and erase on next episode. That's, to me, the problem with Sheldon. Because he changes for an episode, and then the famous "reset" button is hit. That doesn't make for an organic and natural development, it makes for confusing and all-over-the-place Sheldon.

 

Sheldon is one of my favourite characters and I am pleased in general with s7 but I think you have a point here. It used to be cute that ''Sheldon doesn't won't to admit he is not just an emotionless robot''. I mean when he asked Penny not to hurt his buddy I thought that everything his said before was to ensure Leonard wasn't without having to admit that he did care for anyone but himself. He has to struggle with a lot but it is just frustating to watch a little progress which is canceled the next minute.

It is the same thing with Amy's frustration. On the 4th episode we had that line about her ''losing her virginity''.That was funny. And Sheldon seemed to recognize about the double meaning his words had(although later he did the exact same thing). No matter how innocent he is he should be stupid not to understand the impact of his words on Amy. But the writers just want to bring up the shamy sex matter on every episode without having to actually change Sheldon. I appreciate the little steps (I mean I loved the I like you part) but the writers have to make a choice. And it has to do with Sheldon in general not just Amy. It was the same in s07e01. It was so cute the way Sheldon didn't want to admit he missed Leonard but the writers can only do that for so much.

[Moonbase]

That doesn't make my opinion any less valid.

 

It is true that his character pretty much predated the other two lead characters of the show. I'm not denying that.

He is the most recognizable and popular character, I'm not denying that either.

 

But when you start relegating the plots and overall narrative of the story to make it so that the beloved character stays the same always "because he's untouchable as a character" and you start to overexploit him to milk it for all it's worth, you start having problems.

 

 

I'm not saying he should never grow at all, they made some tremendous displays of Sheldon's humanity before this infancy plot line started. What I object to is how they are doing it. This is a completely different issue.

 

You start having problems like the ones the writers have had all over these years on the balancing of the plot lines. You start having the overuse of Sheldon we've had (especially S3) that was the root cause of his caricaturization. You start having his traits exhacerbated by the need of making him even more central that he actually is. I've even seen complaining about the overuse of Sheldon by people whose favorite character IS Sheldon, because of this so I don't think it's only me the one who sees it.

The writers are in a crux with Sheldon and is understandable. On one hand, they have this concept of him being "the untouchable sacred character" of the show, while on the other, they have the need to tell new stories.

 

 

I myself, have admitted that Sheldon is overused sometimes, but it's irrelevant to the argument about whether I like the changes or not. It only serves to prove my point, that to the writers of this show he's not just another character as you put it! And I very much doubt that they will ever stop 'overusing' Sheldon because whether you like it or not, they treat him like the star.

 

The rest of your post we will never agree on because I think any other romance would have been more fun to watch Sheldon experience, then the one he's in. Just don't dig the shamy.

[Guest I'm not dead Cheryl]

I thought the writers had bought themselves some time with the last scene of last season by letting everyone know that eventually Sheldon would give in to Amy's desires and Amy would be patient with him. But this season they've reverted back to sex-starved Amy making a frustrated comment every episode. It's like they feel they have to keep dangling that bone in front of the Shamys to keep them from revolting over lack of progress on the coitus front.

 

True. And they should realize that they don't need to dangle anything.

Thing is, I thought that with the D&D episode they were buying themselves time in order to revert to a more S4 Sheldon-Amy dynamic.

Take Herb Garden, for example. They were not a couple yet, but they were having a good time and making the gang victim of their experiment. It wasn't about the relationship in itself, and yet, almost all the Shamy shippers I know have that episode as the favorite one. Not every plot with a couple has to be about the relationship itself.

But after the D&D ep, they are writing like Sheldon's admittance of intimacy and Amy understanding he's working on it never happened, and again, makes any progress null and instead of moving on to new jokes and stories, they're back to the Amy-isn't-getting-any-and-is-frustrated-about-it and Sheldon-is-a-jerk-who-doesn't-care-about-anyone-especially-Amy jokes. And it's gotten old.

 

@Moonbase. Again, I know that for the writers he's not like any other character. I tried to express that, but I think it didn't come across very clearly. And that is, to me, the problem with Sheldon. They SHOULD treat him like every other character. But sadly, they don't. 

 

p.s.: phew, I am, though, relieved that you don't agree with me. Djvang, Disgusted & I just agreed on something and I was starting to feel uneasy. by disagreeing with me, you have brought balance to the Force. PHEW!

[Disgusted]

 

 

p.s.: phew, I am, though, relieved that you don't agree with me. Djvang, Disgusted & I just agreed on something and I was starting to feel uneasy. by disagreeing with me, you have brought balance to the Force. PHEW!

 

I, much like the broken clock, am right twice a day. I take great comfort in those times......

[Carlos]

Please the thought of Sheldon trying to teach Leonard empathy and anything about pride is a joke in itself. 

 

 

ArmyGirl: You've got it! THAT is the joke! And may I say the only funny one. This episode was one long display of vile towards his friend by Sheldon. Characters used to hurt each otehr before as well, just not on purpose.

[djvang]

True. And they should realize that they don't need to dangle anything.

Thing is, I thought that with the D&D episode they were buying themselves time in order to revert to a more S4 Sheldon-Amy dynamic.

Take Herb Garden, for example. They were not a couple yet, but they were having a good time and making the gang victim of their experiment. It wasn't about the relationship in itself, and yet, almost all the Shamy shippers I know have that episode as the favorite one. Not every plot with a couple has to be about the relationship itself.

But after the D&D ep, they are writing like Sheldon's admittance of intimacy and Amy understanding he's working on it never happened, and again, makes any progress null and instead of moving on to new jokes and stories, they're back to the Amy-isn't-getting-any-and-is-frustrated-about-it and Sheldon-is-a-jerk-who-doesn't-care-about-anyone-especially-Amy jokes. And it's gotten old.

 

@Moonbase. Again, I know that for the writers he's not like any other character. I tried to express that, but I think it didn't come across very clearly. And that is, to me, the problem with Sheldon. They SHOULD treat him like every other character. But sadly, they don't. 

 

p.s.: phew, I am, though, relieved that you don't agree with me. Djvang, Disgusted & I just agreed on something and I was starting to feel uneasy. by disagreeing with me, you have brought balance to the Force. PHEW!

I liked S4 Shamy when they were the robot couple who looked at the other characters as if they were lab specimens. They were totally in sync with each other and had the same interests and attitudes and it was hilarious to watch because it was so unique.  For some reason the writers changed that and morphed them into the wise girlfriend/ bufoonish boyfriend scenario that's been done a million times. I really wish they could return to the robot couple but that's impossible now. 

 

Better watch out. You don't want to be seen agreeing with the devil.