Episodes 7.12 "the Hesitation Ramification" (January 2)

[ArmyGirl]

You could but that sort of thing is something Leonard brings to the relationship. Which is to say I don't think Penny would prep an answer and she would get mad if Leonard were to ask.

Then if Penny doesn't have to prep or answer the question then nor should Leonard. Leonard's actions more than speaks for how he feels about her and he has given and given to the relationship. I may be in the minority here but the ball is in Penny's court.

[djsurrey]

Why does Sheldon need to grow up? He's just a fictional character.

A fictional human character.

Not just a cartoon character.

Then if Penny doesn't have to prep or answer the question then nor should Leonard. Leonard's actions more than speaks for how he feels about her and he has given and given to the relationship. I may be in the minority here but the ball is in Penny's court.

 

The ball is in her court.

She can only be expected to do what she is capable of.

[Chrismo]

Sheldon was better off on his own, than with her. He doesn't suit being in a relationship like this, it just makes the character unfunny and annoying. The things you mention are not the Sheldon I started watching the show for. He was fantastic, everybody loved him. Now he's an idiot and it's all to service a romance that never fitted him. I maintain that if Sheldon was ever going to meet a girl she should have been a gamer and shared his TV cult obsessions. They could have had a lot more fun together, Amy doesn't fit. There's someone off kilter about them and they never seem right. For the record, I don't think the dropping pants thing is even good. Or funny, and this is what I mean.

I see your point of view. I'm guessing though but have no real facts to back this but I believe the first three seasons were probably watched more by men than by women. They needed more women to watch the show and thus brought in B/A so the guys would have girlfriends. No one argue over the increased ratings since the two women came on. I think your point of view of the Sheldon is probably shared by more men than women. I think Sheldon has lost more male fans because generally in his relationship with Amy he looks like an idiot. But women love him. I do know that some men like the Shamy. IMO though their the exception not the rule.

[djsurrey]

I see your point of view. I'm guessing though but have no real facts to back this but I believe the first three seasons were probably watched more by men than by women. They needed more women to watch the show and thus brought in B/A so the guys would have girlfriends. No one argue over the increased ratings since the two women came on. I think your point of view of the Sheldon is probably shared by more men than women. I think Sheldon has lost more male fans because generally in his relationship with Amy he looks like an idiot. But women love him. I do know that some men like the Shamy. IMO though their the exception not the rule.

 

Sheldon was already looking foolish and childish in s1e4 Luminous Fish Effect. This is essentially from the beginning and long before Amy.

[stardustmelody]

I think perhaps the real problem is that after seven seasons, Sheldon is still fairly the same as he has always been.  He is still very much his number one fan of himself and still self-centered and clueless.  While he has gained some social awareness and does seem to show a bit more concern for others, he basically is the same man.  But I think that maybe he doesn't come across as funny to some because he has been pretty much the same all these years now.   Just as many predicted, unless they added some additional characters for him to interact with, he would have gotten very boring and continually predictable.   It was important to bring on Amy for him to open up new material for him.   If he was still just interacting with the three other guys and Penny,there would have been complaints  just as much as there is by those who claim he is no longer funny since Amy came on the show.   Bottom line he needed to expand into new areas and they had to do with that with new characters and with a new romantic interest (Amy).

 

I personally am tired of the Penny/Sheldon interactions because they have gone on for seven years and are never going to change.  They always are going to be like bickering siblings.   I don't mind them in small doses, but I think there has been far too much of them.   But that is again because their material is old and stale.   It is hard to change it to be very interesting when their relationship will always be the same and there isn't anything new to interject there.  I think that the show got too into Sheldon/Penny interactions that his interactions with the guys has suffered a lot.  I would personally rather see more interactions again with the guys, Amy and even Bernadette than with Penny.  

 

Amy, however has given Sheldon a lot more to work with.   He is having to learn how to traverse in a relationship and think about another person, which is new to him.   Likewise he is having to get out of his homeostatic environment and think about things such as showing Amy affection.   But Amy too is a bit of a weirdo and both are very inexperienced, which makes it very entertaining.  It makes it amusing to see how they are going to navigate and remain unique.   The writers gave us D&D which was one of the most unique sexual experiences on TV.   Yet it was entertaining because it was unique.  They continually look for new ways to keep them different.

 

While dropping his pants may not be funny to most adults, what makes it interesting in this story is that it is very adolescent behavior.  So was his flower prank when he wanted Amy to draw near to his chest area and "smell" the flower.   It is typical behavior of an adolescent who doesn't know how to make a move and so they become rather foolish.   What makes it even worse is that you have a man in his mid-30's doing this because that is where he is at emotionally.   But that is what keeps them unique.   Amy laughs because she is like an adolescent girl who finds it funny.   And, when Amy laughs, her laugh is infectious and so the audience laughs with her.   You are right, that it in itself isn't that funny, but it does make sense with this couple.  It is all part of them developing.

 

I personally have the same problem with Amy. I wish they would give her more story about her and not always make her story around Sheldon.   I hope they expand her story to give us more insight into her past and what makes her tick.  

 

This season has had very few girls night and guys game night/experiment night interactions.   I think they need to throw more of those in and less Sheldon/Penny moments and that would help. 

[Chrismo]

Sheldon was already looking foolish and childish in s1e4 Luminous Fish Effect. This is essentially from the beginning and long before Amy.

True. But after 7 seasons IMO it starts getting old.

[Razberrypie]

 Intelligence was always going to be the most important factor in a relationship for Sheldon, not sci-fi. That's more like an exciting fantasy that may wear thin quite quickly. Though the fact that Amy has shown an increasing interest in his activities shows that she really does care about him a great deal. There was D&D, Raiders of the lost ark (heck she paid attention to it enough to point out a flaw that no-one else had noticed), some of his comic books, and it's shown that Lenny and Shamy do play video games together. If you're thinking, why can't she be both? Then I'd have to disagree, I think these differences add more of a give and take-element.

 

And that's exactly it, Amy is the only one Sheldon sees at the same level as him so he has a huge amount of respect for her, more than he does for the apparently more "geeky"  sci-fi loving Leonard. This means he listens to her and takes her advice and it's usually very good advice that allows him to become a better person. Without Amy, Sheldon would have become more annoying than he is now, with all the characters changing and moving on with their lives. Sheldon would definitely whine about it and try to drag everyone backwards to meet with his needs and honestly, since the writers have still been so stubborn with his development, we can see a bit of it now. The problem doesn't stem from the fact that Amy has made Sheldon develop too much, it's the fact that he hasn't developed enough (though evidence this season shows this may be changing which I couldn't be happier about). I don't know why all of this blame is being placed on Amy. I have a good feeling that the writers would have run out of ideas for Sheldon really quickly if it weren't for her providing a constant challenge and a means for him to catch up with the others. If they were always exactly the same as each other and she constantly reinforced his bad behaviour then he'd fall fast and it'd get pretty boring. Without this evolution, the show certainly wouldn't be as popular as it is today.

 

 It may not seem like it to you but this development is in Sheldon's interest too. If Sheldon didn't adapt for his friends as they moved on with their lives, their patience would soon wear thin and they'd eventually push him away. Sheldon would have no idea why and it would kill him, he says he likes to be alone to cover up for the fact he cares about his friends a great deal. He wants to keep them, which also explains why takes Amy's advice without hesitation when she tells him he's being rude to them. Most of us as fans, as star said, would love to see him grow more explicitly so the gap between him and Amy closes up, then we'd see them do a lot more fun stuff together, certainly not for Amy to backtrack to meet him. That may have been okay a couple of seasons ago but there has been too much development in everyone else for that to work with the group dynamic now.

[Chrismo]

I think perhaps the real problem is that after seven seasons, Sheldon is still fairly the same as he has always been.  He is still very much his number one fan of himself and still self-centered and clueless.  While he has gained some social awareness and does seem to show a bit more concern for others, he basically is the same man.  But I think that maybe he doesn't come across as funny to some because he has been pretty much the same all these years now.   Just as many predicted, unless they added some additional characters for him to interact with, he would have gotten very boring and continually predictable.   It was important to bring on Amy for him to open up new material for him.   If he was still just interacting with the three other guys and Penny,there would have been complaints  just as much as there is by those who claim he is no longer funny since Amy came on the show.   Bottom line he needed to expand into new areas and they had to do with that with new characters and with a new romantic interest (Amy).

 

I personally am tired of the Penny/Sheldon interactions because they have gone on for seven years and are never going to change.  They always are going to be like bickering siblings.   I don't mind them in small doses, but I think there has been far too much of them.   But that is again because their material is old and stale.   It is hard to change it to be very interesting when their relationship will always be the same and there isn't anything new to interject there.  I think that the show got too into Sheldon/Penny interactions that his interactions with the guys has suffered a lot.  I would personally rather see more interactions again with the guys, Amy and even Bernadette than with Penny.  

 

Amy, however has given Sheldon a lot more to work with.   He is having to learn how to traverse in a relationship and think about another person, which is new to him.   Likewise he is having to get out of his homeostatic environment and think about things such as showing Amy affection.   But Amy too is a bit of a weirdo and both are very inexperienced, which makes it very entertaining.  It makes it amusing to see how they are going to navigate and remain unique.   The writers gave us D&D which was one of the most unique sexual experiences on TV.   Yet it was entertaining because it was unique.  They continually look for new ways to keep them different.

 

While dropping his pants may not be funny to most adults, what makes it interesting in this story is that it is very adolescent behavior.  So was his flower prank when he wanted Amy to draw near to his chest area and "smell" the flower.   It is typical behavior of an adolescent who doesn't know how to make a move and so they become rather foolish.   What makes it even worse is that you have a man in his mid-30's doing this because that is where he is at emotionally.   But that is what keeps them unique.   Amy laughs because she is like an adolescent girl who finds it funny.   And, when Amy laughs, her laugh is infectious and so the audience laughs with her.   You are right, that it in itself isn't that funny, but it does make sense with this couple.  It is all part of them developing.

 

I personally have the same problem with Amy. I wish they would give her more story about her and not always make her story around Sheldon.   I hope they expand her story to give us more insight into her past and what makes her tick.  

 

This season has had very few girls night and guys game night/experiment night interactions.   I think they need to throw more of those in and less Sheldon/Penny moments and that would help. 

 

I disagree with you and I think given that ratings have gone way up since they added Amy and Bernadette (nearly doubled since they joined the show), you may be in the minority.   He is still very funny and it opened up a lot more story for him.  If he had remained single, it would have been like Raj, who they still can't figure out what to do with and that would be a travesty.   It is far more interesting to watch him traverse through a relationship and Amy is a perfect match for him.   Not many girls would be patient.   By the way she does like playing games (D&D, for example, and recently Wii) so she is starting to pick up many of his interests.  She also is more open to reading comic books now. 

 

Sheldon and Amy continue to be one of the more interesting couples on TV and they are very compatible.  Their chemistry is good (which I realize is a very subjective thing, but given how much MaJim support there is, tells me that enough people see the chemistry) and they both have a passion for science.  They understand each other.  

 

They are not going to be for everyone, but that would be true on any show and any cast.   But I would have to say that there are nearly 20 Mil people out enjoying Sheldon and Amy as a couple given the high ratings and the fan responses not only on the internet but at fan events.   They are the most asked about couple at fan events and highly popular on all forum and social media sites.

I think you're stretching a bit that 20 million people enjoy Sheldon and Amy. 20 million people  enjoy TBBT for various reasons. While Moonbase may be in the minority about Amy and Sheldon I think you are in the minority about Penny and Sheldon. There are only 100 or so regulars on these forums and you said 20 million watch the show. You can't really get a true sense of what people think just from here. Polls have also indicated that peoples favorite characters on the show are Sheldon and Penny.

[djvang]

Sheldon was already looking foolish and childish in s1e4 Luminous Fish Effect. This is essentially from the beginning and long before Amy.

I just saw that episosde last night. It's one of my favorites. Early Sheldon was childlike, not childish. There's a big difference. Current Sheldon is childish.

[Karen Benavides]

Hello there, well I think this topic about how amy has changed sheldon is getting old. Common, amy has been in the serie almost 4 years and the people still complain about her. Now is season 7 and I think we only have 3 seasons more. I am glad that the writers made some developments in the characters these years because for the next seasons they are prepare to make big decisions in their lives. Yes, is a tv show but it is about the lives of these characters and in some point they need to grown up. The development of a characters makes a show closes to the reality and I happy tbbt do that

[djvang]

I disagree with you and I think given that ratings have gone way up since they added Amy and Bernadette (nearly doubled since they joined the show), you may be in the minority.   He is still very funny and it opened up a lot more story for him.  If he had remained single, it would have been like Raj, who they still can't figure out what to do with and that would be a travesty.   It is far more interesting to watch him traverse through a relationship and Amy is a perfect match for him.   Not many girls would be patient.   By the way she does like playing games (D&D, for example, and recently Wii) so she is starting to pick up many of his interests.  She also is more open to reading comic books now. 

 

Sheldon and Amy continue to be one of the more interesting couples on TV and they are very compatible.  Their chemistry is good (which I realize is a very subjective thing, but given how much MaJim support there is, tells me that enough people see the chemistry) and they both have a passion for science.  They understand each other.  

 

They are not going to be for everyone, but that would be true on any show and any cast.   But I would have to say that there are nearly 20 Mil people out enjoying Sheldon and Amy as a couple given the high ratings and the fan responses not only on the internet but at fan events.   They are the most asked about couple at fan events and highly popular on all forum and social media sites.

I don't think the Raj/Sheldon comparison works. Raj has always been miserable being single and you're right in that they don't know what to do with him. Sheldon on the other hand, was perfectly happy and content being single. In fact he looked down at the others who were obsessed with their constant pursuit of coitus.

 

IMO the only reason TPTB gave him a girlfriend was to attract the large audience that wants romance, romance and more romance. That's perfectly understandable because ratings mean money and money means everything.  And it worked as far as ratings go.

Edited December 30, 2013 by djvang

[stardustmelody]

I think you're stretching a bit that 20 million people enjoy Sheldon and Amy. 20 million people  enjoy TBBT for various reasons. While Moonbase may be in the minority about Amy and Sheldon I think you are in the minority about Penny and Sheldon. There are only 100 or so regulars on these forums and you said 20 million watch the show. You can't really get a true sense of what people think just from here. Polls have also indicated that peoples favorite characters on the show are Sheldon and Penny.

And I qualified my comment about Sheldon and Penny from the get go saying that it was my personal opinion and I knew I was in the minority on that one, but that does not say that the majority of audience out of the 20 Mil viewers are not Shamy supporters (as well as Lenny supporters).   Most of the audience does like Shamy out of the 20 Mil that do tune in.  Sure everyone has their favorites and clearly they like the ensemble as a whole, but if you look at Facebook, forum sites and hear the questions that come up at fan events, most ask about Shamy and clearly state that they love them.   So I still stand by my statement about Shamy.  They are wildly popular.

 

 

I don't think the Raj/Sheldon comparison works. Raj has always been miserable being single and you're right in that they don't know what to do with him. Sheldon on the other hand, was perfectly happy and content being single. In fact he looked down at the others who were obsessed with their constant pursuit of coitus.

 

IMO the only reason TPTB gave him a girlfriend was to attract the large audience that wants romance, romance and more romance. That's perfectly understandable because ratings mean money and money means everything.  And it worked as far as ratings go.

 

While Sheldon may have said he was perfectly content being single and alone, I think the show has proven him to be otherwise.  He depends on Leonard's friendship a lot as well as Penny's friendship and Amy's love.   Sure he started out different than Raj and they are different comparisons, but if people are sick of Sheldon being the same now after seven years, then just think of how pathetic and sick they would be if he had not changed to where he is now.  At least now he realizes he needs other people and that he does care about others.   That is a huge step forward.   I think Amy has helped soften his edges a lot and made him much more aware of how much he does need others.

Edited December 30, 2013 by stardustmelody

[rickfromillinois]

Amy is Sheldon's girlfriend, not his doormat.  Being a girlfriend or a boyfriend does not mean that you have to agree with everything that they say or do.   A good girlfriend does point out when you are being a big jerk.   As with everything, in moderation.

 

The Bernadette character was the best thing that ever happened to the Howard character.   Before Bernadette Howard was a sleazy and disgusting pervert.   Besides, she's funny as all get out.  

[Chrismo]

Amy is Sheldon's girlfriend, not his doormat.  Being a girlfriend or a boyfriend does not mean that you have to agree with everything that they say or do.   A good girlfriend does point out when you are being a big jerk.   As with everything, in moderation.

 

 

She was pretty quiet during itchy brain at the end. It seems to me she needed to point out that he was being a big jerk.

[Razberrypie]

It's almost a shame the writers saved their butts by bringing the girls in before the audience knew they were needed, because it seemed to give some people the false impression that the writers had an infinite well of season 1-3 Sheldon material which wasn't helped by the impressive feat of keeping his character relatively the same for 3 seasons (well done guys). Of course people would think they were capable of keeping it up forever, but in fact, it was simply not possible given the circumstances (i.e. the natural growth of relationships between the characters).

 

You're right to think Sheldon wouldn't become like Raj in the sense that he wouldn't be crying over women, but he would become equally as pathetic. As I already said in my earlier post, he'd clawing at the backs of the others as he didn't understand why they wanted to move on with their lives, being the absolute third wheel from hell and being left in the dust as they got sick of him. He listens to Amy. Amy is the only one who can help him keep up. Period. Full stop. Whatever you want to call it.

 

Yes the audience likes romance, but they also like character development and not watching the writers of their favourite show struggle for ideas. It's not the girly fantasy dream that so many people seem to think shamy is.

 

ETA: I just realized how off-topic this thing has gone. I don't really know why I bother since most of the points on our side of the debate go completely ignored as some people just want to stick their fingers in their ears...so...erm...Nice promo! I look forward to it

Edited December 30, 2013 by Razberrypie

[Chrismo]

I don't think the Raj/Sheldon comparison works. Raj has always been miserable being single and you're right in that they don't know what to do with him. Sheldon on the other hand, was perfectly happy and content being single. In fact he looked down at the others who were obsessed with their constant pursuit of coitus.

 

IMO the only reason TPTB gave him a girlfriend was to attract the large audience that wants romance, romance and more romance. That's perfectly understandable because ratings mean money and money means everything.  And it worked as far as ratings go.

Couldn't agree more. I also get a kick trying  to compare Shamy and Lenny. If there wasn't Lenny there would have been no Shamy. Matter of fact there would have been no show.

 

 

 

Yes the audience likes romance, but they also like character development and not watching the writers of their favourite show struggle for ideas. It's not the girly fantasy dream that so many people seem to think shamy is.

Well I don't think it's generally a guy fantasy dream

Edited December 30, 2013 by Chrismo

[djvang]

It's almost a shame the writers saved their butts by bringing the girls in before the audience knew they were needed, because it seemed to give some people the false impression that the writers had an infinite well of season 1-3 Sheldon material which wasn't helped by the impressive feat of keeping his character relatively the same for 3 seasons (well done guys). Of course people would think they were capable of keeping it up forever, but in fact, it was simply not possible given the circumstances (i.e. the natural growth of relationships between the characters).

 

You're right to think Sheldon wouldn't become like Raj in the sense that he wouldn't be crying over women, but he would become equally as pathetic. As I already said in my earlier post, he'd clawing at the backs of the others as he didn't understand why they wanted to move on with their lives, being the absolute third wheel from hell and being left in the dust as they got sick of him. He listens to Amy. Amy is the only one who can help him keep up. Period. Full stop. Whatever you want to call it.

 

Yes the audience likes romance, but they also like character development and not watching the writers of their favourite show struggle for ideas. It's not the girly fantasy dream that so many people seem to think shamy is.

 

ETA: I just realized how off-topic this thing has gone. I don't really know why I bother since most of the points on our side of the debate go completely ignored as some people just want to stick their fingers in their ears...so...erm...Nice promo! I look forward to it

I made the point out here long ago that I think the writers ran out of fresh ammo after seasons 1-3 so they transitioned the show to a romcom in order to open up more storylines and attract a wider audience. It wasn't a popular opinion.

 

As for the "girly fantasy dream", I think that's exactly what it is to many people.  Just my observation from reading thru the Shamy thread. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just not my preference.

[phantagrae]

She was pretty quiet during itchy brain at the end. It seems to me she needed to point out that he was being a big jerk.

Maybe she didn't think he was being a jerk.

[Chrismo]

Maybe she didn't think he was being a jerk.

And maybe she's not really a good girlfriend.

[Razberrypie]

 I was just commenting on the fact that people like you seem to think the writers brought on Amy purely to satisfy the girly fantasy dream, when there were actually a lot of other good reasons too. I'm sure it's not your preference though, I guess if the show went the way you wanted, it may have only lasted another season of Sheldon "goodness" before it got ridiculous. Well I suppose it would have been okay it it went out on a high...lol. 

[SRAM]

I made the point out here long ago that I think the writers ran out of fresh ammo after seasons 1-3 so they transitioned the show to a romcom in order to open up more storylines and attract a wider audience. It wasn't a popular opinion.

 

As for the "girly fantasy dream", I think that's exactly what it is to many people.  Just my observation from reading thru the Shamy thread. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just not my preference.

 

I tend to agree with you, I think the transition from a Sitcom to a Romcon had a lot to do with the increase in the popularity of the show.  It drew in a more diverse fan base.  It does open up more storylines and gives the writers more options.  The girls were part of that transition and I think a good one, sometimes I find they are funnier than the guys.  I think the show is more  interesting now, because not only do we get the laughs but we also get to follow the characters goofy lives, which is funny too. 

[vasu]

For me ,the problem with Sheldon-Amy dynamic is simple.. Amy simply does not seem to enjoy spending time with Sheldon...not does she seem to be thinking on the same level as Sheldon like in the early seasons...

The happiest I have seen Amy this seasons was when she was with Howard in the contest episode...ok may be a little bit in the fantasy episode but most of that episode she acts like she was constantly acting like she was just waiting for Sheldon to throw a bone to her..

And then rest of the times she spends correcting Sheldon... Sheldon don't do this ... Sheldon don't do that ....while clearly it should have been others saying "Shamy don't do that"

In the itchy sweater episode after Sheldon reveals his plan to Leonard at the end Amy says "Sheldon that was diabolical" .... when clearly Amy of the previous seasons would have said something along the lines of "Sheldon that was great" or "I don't understand why Leonard does not understand your problems"..... ...... because in one the early season episode she was the one who suggested the "cruel plan" of manipulating Leonard into signing the new roommate agreement to Sheldon...

And please don't tell this is because Amy has grown socially ,so all this changes.......

Edited December 30, 2013 by vasu

[phantagrae]

And maybe she's not really a good girlfriend.

By your standards? She's not some Pollyanna or Sheldon's mother. If she doesn't think it was something she needed to "scold" him about, then why would she do it? YOU think it was something she should have scolded him about, but even if she thought it wasn't completely nice, that doesn't mean that she should scold him for it or otherwise admonish him.

Her comment that it was "diabolical" doesn't mean she disapproved of his convoluted plan for revenge or comeuppance or whatever you want to call it. If the writers wanted to show that she disapproved or felt that Sheldon needed to be set straight, or needed to apologize to Leonard, they would have had her tell him to do it, or whatever.

But since they didn't write it, she didn't feel it, so no scolding.

And I don't think there's any evidence that she doesn't enjoy her time with Sheldon. We don't see them in every moment, but it's the funny parts that we do hear about, so it might seem that way. And again, lots of people gripe about this or that thing that their SO says or does, but that doesn't mean that they don't enjoy their SO's company. So we might hear Amy gripe about something Sheldon has said or done, but that doesn't mean she's unhappy.

[stardustmelody]

For me ,the problem with Sheldon-Amy dynamic is simple.. Amy simply does not seem to enjoy spending time with Sheldon...not does she seem to be thinking on the same level as Sheldon like in the early seasons...

The happiest I have seen Amy this seasons was when she was with Howard in the contest episode...ok may be a little bit in the fantasy episode but most of that episode she acts like she was constantly acting like she was just waiting for Sheldon to throw a bone to her..

And then rest of the times she spends correcting Sheldon... Sheldon don't do this ... Sheldon don't do that ....while clearly it should have been others saying "Shamy don't do that"

In the itchy sweater episode after Sheldon reveals his plan to Leonard at the end Amy says "Sheldon that was diabolical" .... when clearly Amy of the previous seasons would have said something along the lines of "Sheldon that was great" or "I don't understand why Leonard does not understand your problems"..... ...... because in one the early season episode she was the one who suggested the "cruel plan" of manipulating Leonard into signing the new roommate agreement to Sheldon...

And please don't tell this is because Amy has grown socially ,so all this changes.......

 

 

I think the writers have run the danger of making it appear that she doesn't enjoy Sheldon, but she clearly does enjoy him.  She adores him.   However, Shamy used to have fun in the first two seasons.   Since Molaro took over helm, he has turned them much more dramatic.  I personally wish he would bring back more of the "fun" version that played made-up games, went to the zoo, did their Fun with Flags show, etc.   I think they need to inject more of that kind of fun (not the adolescent flirting kind he is doing now) into the couple.   I liked that in the second episode of the season Amy was making up a new language and teaching it to Sheldon.   But sadly they had him distracted by thinking Penny was cheating on Leonard.   They need to get back to where both of them are "in it" having fun together again.  

 

Regardless, I do think Amy still enjoys Sheldon. I think she finds him interesting, fascinating and loves being with him, even if she does have to guide him through social protocol now and again.

[Razberrypie]

Oh my goodness you guys we've done it again. This is why I told myself to stay away from episode threads *slaps self* bad raz.