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Is Sheldon really a child? Is that what the cast all sees him as? 

 

In the newest episode(Spoiler) Amy trys to make him feel better by giving him strawberry milk. Sheldon replys a 

"Child's beverage" is not going to fix anything. Leonard and Penny talk about how they taught him "Stranger danger". 

Leonard offers to take him to legoland to fix things. Penny says that he is a grown man and he can go by himself. Leonard says 

sheldon looks like a grown man and references "Freaky friday" and penny gives Sheldon a kiss good bye and tells him to "Be safe and call them". 

 

(The rest not spoilers) 

 

This first thing leads to a previous episode where Amy tries to make him like her more by using things from Sheldon's childhood

to make him like her. She made him spaghetti with hot-dogs and strawberry milk. 

 

Penny takes Sheldon to Disney land and try not to fight in front of Sheldon. When Leonard and Penny do fight Leonard ends up getting upset and runs to hide at the comic book shop. 

 

Bernie gets Sheldon to go to listen by yelling at him like he was a small child. She says "Its ok i know how to deal with stubborn children".

 

Leonard sends Sheldon to bed saying that he will be sleepy for work. He convinces Sheldon to go to sleep because he wants to sleep with Penny. 

 

Leonard takes Sheldon home from the ball Pit and the security says he knows a person with special needs. 

 

Amy refers to Sheldon as a "Sexy Toddler" in one episode(Which is actually an incredibly creepy remark if you think about it.)

 

Now his mother treats him like a child but its his mother and generally parents always see their kids as kids. No matter what age they become. 

 

 Howard is actually living with his mother in the beginning and his mother babies him but most of the other cast does not deal with Howard as though he is a child. A lot of times they seem to deal with Sheldon as though they are dealing with a moody child. Also Bernadette said to him "I am telling you now I am not going to be your mother" to Howard in an episode. 

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Yes, they do.  I think the difference between Sheldon and Howard is where the "joke" is in their character qualities.  For Sheldon, it's the irony that a brilliant man in his 30's can't go to the dentist by himself, put his own Vaporub on his chest, or even drive a car.  He excels at all things physics but can't do the things most people do every day.  With Howard, I think it's more about his mom and playing the stereotype of the overbearing, overprotective Jewish mother.  Howard is childish in some ways but he can drive, he fell in love and got married, and then moved out of his mother's home despite her objections.

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Is Sheldon really a child? Is that what the cast all sees him as? 

 

In the newest episode(Spoiler) Amy trys to make him feel better by giving him strawberry milk. Sheldon replys a 

"Child's beverage" is not going to fix anything. Leonard and Penny talk about how they taught him "Stranger danger". 

Leonard offers to take him to legoland to fix things. Penny says that he is a grown man and he can go by himself. Leonard says 

sheldon looks like a grown man and references "Freaky friday" and penny gives Sheldon a kiss good bye and tells him to "Be safe and call them". 

 

(The rest not spoilers) 

 

This first thing leads to a previous episode where Amy tries to make him like her more by using things from Sheldon's childhood

to make him like her. She made him spaghetti with hot-dogs and strawberry milk. 

 

Penny takes Sheldon to Disney land and try not to fight in front of Sheldon. When Leonard and Penny do fight Leonard ends up getting upset and runs to hide at the comic book shop. 

 

Bernie gets Sheldon to go to listen by yelling at him like he was a small child. She says "Its ok i know how to deal with stubborn children".

 

Leonard sends Sheldon to bed saying that he will be sleepy for work. He convinces Sheldon to go to sleep because he wants to sleep with Penny. 

 

Leonard takes Sheldon home from the ball Pit and the security says he knows a person with special needs. 

 

Amy refers to Sheldon as a "Sexy Toddler" in one episode(Which is actually an incredibly creepy remark if you think about it.)

 

Now his mother treats him like a child but its his mother and generally parents always see their kids as kids. No matter what age they become. 

 

 Howard is actually living with his mother in the beginning and his mother babies him but most of the other cast does not deal with Howard as though he is a child. A lot of times they seem to deal with Sheldon as though they are dealing with a moody child. Also Bernadette said to him "I am telling you now I am not going to be your mother" to Howard in an episode. 

 

 

Everyone does and as the seasons roll on, it gets worse and worse. Sheldon was not as childlike in Season 2 but those days are gone. :( He was still arrogant but he wasn't quite as babylike. I think he needs to escape this treatment and focus on himself and who he wants to be. If we are not happy in ourselves no one else can make us happy. Poor Sheldon has become so co-dependent since he met Leonard, that he is having a mini breakdown. It's not healthy.

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I don't think there's a simple answer, since they don't treat him the same way in every situation.  It's usually exaggerated for comic effect rather than the way they treat him all the time.

 

But it's true that Sheldon is both a grown man and a child.  Arguably, all the guys are, but Sheldon most of all, and probably because of the way he grew up.

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I don't think there's a simple answer, since they don't treat him the same way in every situation.  It's usually exaggerated for comic effect rather than the way they treat him all the time.

 

But it's true that Sheldon is both a grown man and a child.  Arguably, all the guys are, but Sheldon most of all, and probably because of the way he grew up.

He spent his most formative years in universities in the company of adults, so I'm not sure about that. I'd go with it's just Sheldon. I don't think it's nurture so much. :)

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Everyone does and as the seasons roll on, it gets worse and worse. Sheldon was not as childlike in Season 2 but those days are gone. :( He was still arrogant but he wasn't quite as babylike. I think he needs to escape this treatment and focus on himself and who he wants to be. If we are not happy in ourselves no one else can make us happy. Poor Sheldon has become so co-dependent since he met Leonard, that he is having a mini breakdown. It's not healthy.

Well, they let him go. Let's see if he blossoms. But co-dependency is a stretch, I'd think. Leonard's been trying to get out from under for years. Mind you, camp chairs, a bed, an entertainment system and home delivery is a very attractive option if you don't need company. I've never been sure that Sheldon does. I can't see that Leonard did anything but patiently socialise him as far as he could. If that's treatment. Of course if Sheldon is happy as he was in s2 after trying the alternatives since, then that'd be fine. Let him revert. Leonard is ready to break up with him anyway.

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Sheldon had an unusual and hard childhood.  He was a child genius growing up in a household with a very religious mother and alcoholic father that fought a lot.  He was bullied but instead of making him stronger he figured he'd be safer locking away his feelings.  He learns if something is interesting to him, otherwise he doesn't care.  He loves to research things so I bet if he came across a situation he didn't understand he'd research it.

 

He pretty much fills the standard Asperger's diagnosis with some OCD in there too.  Because of this he's like a child when it comes to certain things.  They're emotionally younger than their peers and after a while the parents learn what needs to be done to calm the child down or get the child to do their chores/homework/etc. without the inevitable meltdown.  They have no social skills so someone needs to teach the child which is a big undertaking because the child doesn't care.

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Is Sheldon really a child? Is that what the cast all sees him as?

 

I think you mean what the characters see him as (not the cast, since that's the actors...)

 

In the newest episode(Spoiler) Amy trys to make him feel better by giving him strawberry milk. Sheldon replys a 

"Child's beverage" is not going to fix anything. Leonard and Penny talk about how they taught him "Stranger danger". 

Leonard offers to take him to legoland to fix things. Penny says that he is a grown man and he can go by himself. Leonard says 

sheldon looks like a grown man and references "Freaky friday" and penny gives Sheldon a kiss good bye and tells him to "Be safe and call them".

 

I think that Amy's action is different from the L/P scenes.  She's not offering him that specific drink because she thinks of him as a child.  She is simply giving him something she knows he likes.  If he were a wine drinker, she might have offered him a glass of wine.  His objection in that moment is to the idea that the drink, which he readily admits is a child's drink, isn't going to solve his grown-up problems, but then he immediately pronounces it "yummy".  But again, she's not offering it because she thinks of him as a child, but because she knows he likes it, and she hopes he would find it calming.

 

The L/P discussion is something of a play on the ongoing Sheldon as a man/child trope.  We do know that Sheldon has hung on to a lot of pastimes and interests from his childhood and that he finds enjoyment in indulging in some of those things, like playing with trains, etc.

So, Leonard offering to take Sheldon to Legoland is his way of trying to appeal to something he thinks Sheldon will respond to.  I think that Leonard does see that child inside Sheldon probably more than anyone, so it's harder for him to think of the grown-up side of Sheldon.  I think the "Stranger Danger" and the whistle thing are plays on that man/child thing.

So, yeah, I think that L/P see that childlike part of him, but I don't know that they necessarily see him as a child they must protect all the time.  I think that most of the time they just let him do his own thing.  But I also think that they recognize that in certain circumstances, he might need a buffer.

 

(The rest not spoilers) 

 

This first thing leads to a previous episode where Amy tries to make him like her more by using things from Sheldon's childhood

to make him like her. She made him spaghetti with hot-dogs and strawberry milk.

 

This is not treating him like a child.  She said very clearly that she is drawing on things from his childhood that are pleasant memories for him.  This same process could be applied to anyone--find out what things from one's childhood made strong, pleasurable memories and evoke those pleasurable thoughts/feelings.  This is the principal behind things like "comfort foods"--experiences or items that evoke pleasurable memories.

So Amy draws on what she knows are things from his childhood that bring forth these pleasant memories and positive feelings, and then getting him to associate those good things with her.  The music, the favorite food and drink are all things from his childhood, but that doesn't mean she is treating him like a child.  She's simply evoking those pleasant feelings and then, because she is now providing them to him, hoping that he will transfer those pleasurable feelings to her.

 

Penny takes Sheldon to Disney land and try not to fight in front of Sheldon. When Leonard and Penny do fight Leonard ends up getting upset and runs to hide at the comic book shop. 

 

Bernie gets Sheldon to go to listen by yelling at him like he was a small child. She says "Its ok i know how to deal with stubborn children".

 

Leonard sends Sheldon to bed saying that he will be sleepy for work. He convinces Sheldon to go to sleep because he wants to sleep with Penny. 

 

Leonard takes Sheldon home from the ball Pit and the security says he knows a person with special needs.

 

These are examples of the comedic exaggeration of this man/child aspect.  Sheldon has childish reactions to certain things and so the writers escalate that by playing up L/P as divorced parents sharing custody of a child, or Sheldon reacting to Bernie's "maternal" instructions.  Also, I don't think that Leonard sending Sheldon to bed so he wouldn't yawn at work (and it was PRIYA he wanted to sleep with) because he was treating him like a child.  It was the thing about his "oddly shaped uvula".  It's true that Sheldon seems to have an early "bedtime", but that's not necessarily childish.  But Leonard was playing on Sheldon's not wanting to yawn in public.  It's not much different from Sheldon not wanting to have his morning bowel movement at work. 

 

Amy refers to Sheldon as a "Sexy Toddler" in one episode(Which is actually an incredibly creepy remark if you think about it.)

This was also not about thinking of Sheldon as a child.  She was talking about how he smelled like baby powder, which made her think of the toddler thing, not because she was trying to come on to a toddler.  And she was drunk.

 

Now his mother treats him like a child but its his mother and generally parents always see their kids as kids. No matter what age they become.

His mother coddles him, like most mothers would do, but she also reminds him that he's a grown man and pushes him to behave--getting him to apologize to his boss to get his job back, rather than hide at home and play around, reminding him that they have to have a more adult relationship, etc.

 

 

Howard is actually living with his mother in the beginning and his mother babies him but most of the other cast does not deal with Howard as though he is a child. A lot of times they seem to deal with Sheldon as though they are dealing with a moody child. Also Bernadette said to him "I am telling you now I am not going to be your mother" to Howard in an episode.

I think the difference with Howard is that beyond his relationship with his mother, Howard is not the "innocent" that Sheldon has remained.  Howard is sexualized where Sheldon is not, which I think is one of the big differences.

 

I think one could argue that Sheldon's emotional/social growth was stunted by the circumstances of his childhood.  I think that his mother would have been fairly overprotective of her precocious child, knowing that he doesn't fit in with anyone--the neighborhood kids, his schoolmates, then apparently accompanying him as he started college at age 11, then grad school as a young teen, etc..  He would have been used to her taking care of him, but also he would not have been exposed to the same age-peer group when he was hitting puberty, and with his mother not likely to encourage him to explore things sexual (and him not being around any girls his own age), his innocence in that area is understandable.

 

I think that the writers play up the man/child aspect for comedic exaggeration, but they are definitely on the path of growing him up, especially as his relationship with Amy progresses.

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Everyone does and as the seasons roll on, it gets worse and worse. Sheldon was not as childlike in Season 2 but those days are gone. :( He was still arrogant but he wasn't quite as babylike. I think he needs to escape this treatment and focus on himself and who he wants to be. If we are not happy in ourselves no one else can make us happy. Poor Sheldon has become so co-dependent since he met Leonard, that he is having a mini breakdown. It's not healthy.

 

Sheldon has always had a child-like component but this really got emphasize after L/P started their sexual relationship in season 3. Like any Chuck Lorre show, adulthood equals sexuality, so the asexual Sheldon is a toddler. Even Jake on "Two and a Half Men" was having threesomes at 16. The women on the show treat him like a pre-adolesence because he has no demonstrable sexual vibe at all. Only Amy thinks he has some proto-sexual energy in there somewhere.

 

By this logic, in physics terms, Sheldon will not be considered a grownup until Amy converts that potential sexual energy to kinetic. :kissing:

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