Ship Zone [Spoilers]Shamy S8 Thread

[pisquenta]

I'm not into Shamy just for the sex, if that were the case I would just sit down and wait for the final season, because they are going to milk that cow dry until the end.

 

I love how this slow development just makes us wanna come here and dissect every single thing they say or do. It's much more interesting than any other relationship because everything is new to them and being able to watch them grow as a couple and as adults has been very fun.

[Cecilia]

Another person who also was at the taping thought the ass slapping was unplanned and Jim doing it to Mayim, rather than Sheldon doing it to Amy.

I really don't know what to believe. Just wanted to share that. Guess we'll know for sure next week we see if they kept it or cut it.

 

You know I wasn't crazy about the slap, not that I didn't like it but I was excited way more about everything else. The truth is I laughed me eyeballs out with the two other spankings but it is the third time it's happening (plus I am a little tired of fan fics about that and who can blame the people who write it if it is always brought up). Having said it is true that is gives context to the two previous spankings that he is being flirty with her when he does it. I actually don't think that he seriously considered sleeping with Amy that night I think as others said that he really liked her with her dress and he couldn't say because everyone kept talking about sex (well except Amy) but after the pressure was off and he realized that being a little flirty wouldn't result in Amy jumping his bones then he just let himself free and showed his attraction in a way he thinks it's flirty. So, even if I wasn't crazy about it I recognize that it is important for the character and storywise. I hope it isn't cut cause I think it serves it's purpose. Anyway thanks Jamie for letting us know!!

[ATOB]

Just popping in to say wow, didn't see that coming, just wow!

I only read the taping reports once, then I've usually forgotten them by the time the show comes on (I think the ILU's going to stay with me somehow though) but, in response to Sheldon's animal/alien remark when seeing Amy in her dress, are we talking about the stirrings of lust?

The serpent in the garden of Eden is such a fantastic methaphor for lust. When you think of the uncoiling twists of the beast within it's easy to see it's origin. Perhaps it put Sheldon in mind of the scene in Alien?

Anyway, it's fun to speculate (I haven't read any further back than this page so apologies if I'm repeating.)

[EvilStewie]

I've said this before, but what draws me to this couple is the tenderness. Physical contact between them is exciting, but to me it's because of the underlying emotions they reveal. Sheldon doesn't just give out hugs to anyone, so when he does, it really means something. I love those sweet scenes when the depth of their feelings for each other shows through. I also love the everyday interactions that show how compatible and close they are.

The fact that Amy doesn't rush him is proof of her love for him. They can wait as long as the want...I got my ILY ♥

[nusspot]

Another person who also was at the taping thought the ass slapping was unplanned and Jim doing it to Mayim, rather than Sheldon doing it to Amy.

I really don't know what to believe. Just wanted to share that. Guess we'll know for sure next week we see if they kept it or cut it.

Tbh after all the excitement about the ILY and the following ass swatting, a thought crossed my mind, that maybe the slap would have been cut out anyway 'cause it felt just too much for the Shamy in one single episode. But I must confess that I would be devastated (LOL) if the slap won't be there. I think it's his weird cute way to show how comfortable he is around Amy now that she took the pressure off his shoulders. But if it was just Jim, well we know he "doesn't mind spanking somebody", as he said to Conan O'Brain. LOL

I really hope it will be in the episode though.

[JourneyIntoShamy]

I love all these comments. I can't pick one to quote and comment on it too 'cause they're all so good.

What can I say other than I am so looking forward to seeing how the whole Shamy parts of the episode will play out, because on-screen is so much different than reading it.

I remember when I read the T.R. of the SIK, and then I saw it on the screen, and Jim's expression after the SIK, or how long the SIK was... that wasn't in the T.R. to my knowledge.
You can't really write "He looked at her like he suddenly realised she was the most important woman in the world" - well, I suppose you can, but how Jim and Mayim express their characters makes the episodes feel new-new, even if I know it by heart because I read the T.Rs. like a billion times. Haha.

Edited October 16, 2014 by JourneyIntoShamy

[Bella Duveen]

Is it weird to point at the TV during the opening credits of a old episode saying 'You LOVE her! You LOVE her!'?

[CaffeineBuzz]

Is it weird to point at the TV during the opening credits of a old episode saying 'You LOVE her! You LOVE her!'?

Nope not weird at all CAUSE HE TOTALLY DOES!

[JourneyIntoShamy]

Is it weird to point at the TV during the opening credits of a old episode saying 'You LOVE her! You LOVE her!'?

 

I was doing that yesterday. I rewatched all the episodes of season 8 so far, and I'm sat there smirking, going, "Ah, you've got butterflies in this scene, don't'cha?"

[Bella Duveen]

And I'm getting even more excited whenever the new series advert comes on over here - it starts a week today! !

[Tomasina]

Jim and mayim are good friends and a swat to get moving could certainly be something innocent that they'd feel comfortable doing... privately or among close friends and family. I don't think jim would do that on the spur of the moment in front of an audience with cameras rolling. It's disrespectful at that point considering how much she values her modesty. I think it was scripted but it won't necessarily get used.

[tmp]

Jim and mayim are good friends and a swat to get moving could certainly be something innocent that they'd feel comfortable doing... privately or among close friends and family. I don't think jim would do that on the spur of the moment in front of an audience with cameras rolling. It's disrespectful at that point considering how much she values her modesty. I think it was scripted but it won't necessarily get used.

 

Have you heard the story that he slapped her behind right before they started filming the "playing doctor" scene?  Apparently everyone laughed so hard they had a difficult time getting the scene started?

[Tomasina]

Really?! Well then all bets are off. Maybe Todd was there that day to keep an eye on him knowing how handsy he can be when he gets too excited.

[Kathy2611]

If its scripted and they get a good response from it, I don't see why they would cut it out. Plus it's starting to be a Shamy thing now since this will be the third time Sheldon has smacked Amy's ass and Sheldon does seem to be an "ass man" so it's totally IC for him.

Really?! Well then all bets are off. Maybe Todd was there that day to keep an eye on him knowing how handsy he can be when he gets too excited.

Lol....I highly doubt that's the reason Todd was there. A ton of VIP was there that night, not just Todd.

[wowbagger]

I'm a little confused by the "gosh, the ILY is so early. What now?" talk. Many of us thought the ILY was coming in the finale last season, and no one thought that was too early or had difficulty imagining timelines for future milestones.

So I am one of the lip-gnawers about the declaration. I would have felt that way last season as well, and indeed even more so. I loved the declaration itself, but I did sort of think that it showed a quantum leap of emotional maturity from Sheldon that I am not sure I buy from him at this stage. I am NOT saying that he is not capable of it, only that I'd like to have seen the journey. Also I feel robbed of an episode where Sheldon describes his symptoms to Amy and she worries that Sheldon is dying and Penny snorts 'yeah, dying OF LOVE!'

[Tomasina]

If they do keep it I hope penny or someone else will poke fun at him for his fascination with that part of her anatomy. Honestly I think he's smacked her butt more often than he's held her hand.

[JourneyIntoShamy]

So I am one of the lip-gnawers about the declaration. I would have felt that way last season as well, and indeed even more so. I loved the declaration itself, but I did sort of think that it showed a quantum leap of emotional maturity from Sheldon that I am not sure I buy from him at this stage. I am NOT saying that he is not capable of it, only that I'd like to have seen the journey. Also I feel robbed of an episode where Sheldon describes his symptoms to Amy and she worries that Sheldon is dying and Penny snorts 'yeah, dying OF LOVE!'

 

Maybe that'll be some of the aftermath. I mean, I don't think Sheldon regrets saying it, or isn't sure of it, but I think he said it maybe 'cause of what Amy said.

"I don't expect you to say it back" and that's kinda sad, coming from Amy, who hasn't been popular, and such. Maybe Sheldon wanted to reassure her, "No, I do love you" sort of thing, 'cause he does.

I don't think it's something he'll say time and time again, but to him, his love for her is a fact, and he stated this fact.

I think because it's Amy, at this point he didn't think about "Sounds too hippy-like",,, I mean, when he has a feeling, he knows it. But in regards to accepting this feeling, and the maturity that comes along with that, you may have a point. I would've like to have seen more of Sheldon questioning it himself, maybe in a previous episode if he had said "Leonard, I need you to drive me to the doctors, and then to the comic book store, and then-" you know a reference, like 'ooh why the doctors?' Just some foreshadowing other than... well I guess we did get foreshadowing 'cause Sheldon seemed so much more accepting of his relationship with Amy, so much more committing, you know? Doing the relationship test, reading up on the social sciences, the way he smiled at Amy at their 8.2 score, the way he smiled at Amy saying 'not as well as we do', bragging about their relationship, saying its the best, because surely it must be if it makes him feel the way it does.

Almost like "I feel strongly about Amy. This relationship must be strong too" I don't know, maybe not, but let's not forget in the pivotal moment when Sheldon says to Amy that he didn't want Amy to know he had failed on his train journey. All these little things, like he's trying to impress her. I think he missed Amy on his train journeys more than he lets on, and I think that comes out in the ILY too.

[phantagrae]

So I am one of the lip-gnawers about the declaration. I would have felt that way last season as well, and indeed even more so. I loved the declaration itself, but I did sort of think that it showed a quantum leap of emotional maturity from Sheldon that I am not sure I buy from him at this stage. I am NOT saying that he is not capable of it, only that I'd like to have seen the journey. Also I feel robbed of an episode where Sheldon describes his symptoms to Amy and she worries that Sheldon is dying and Penny snorts 'yeah, dying OF LOVE!'

 

I think that if we'd seen too much of his emotional journey spelled out too clearly, then the immensity and surprise of his statement wouldn't have had as much impact.

Just as the SIK on the train was sudden and kind of came out of nowhere, rather than being something expected, or being the way one might expect (he is moved by the excitement of being on the train and kisses Amy in gratitude or whatever), his ILY came very suddenly and surprisingly, especially if the moment leads you to believe that Amy's about to say it first.

 

I think that hints of his feelings have indeed been there, just not blatantly spelled out.

[JourneyIntoShamy]

I think that if we'd seen too much of his emotional journey spelled out too clearly, then the immensity and surprise of his statement wouldn't have had as much impact.

Just as the SIK on the train was sudden and kind of came out of nowhere, rather than being something expected, or being the way one might expect (he is moved by the excitement of being on the train and kisses Amy in gratitude or whatever), his ILY came very suddenly and surprisingly, especially if the moment leads you to believe that Amy's about to say it first.

 

I think that hints of his feelings have indeed been there, just not blatantly spelled out.

 

That is very true!! I was very surprised, and I think that (even though I would've loved a build up of the ILY in a more obvious way) I'm perfectly happy with this ILY because it was like, almost out of nowhere. Although not really, because of the way they had been with each other so far. Like, to us, it's obvious "Oh he loves her, come on, so obvious" were my reactions to the recent episodes. So an ILY is just like, having this theory confirmed. There was a build up, in a subtle way, and it's good to be subtle in regards to this, because when he said it, wow, I was in the chat at the time, and Batman said "Shamy ILY" and we just all freaked the frick out. Like, wow, "OH MY GOD OH MY GOD ARE YOU SERIOUS HOLY CRAP OH MY GOOOODDDDD!!"

All in a good way.

 

If there had been a build up, we would've still been excited, but I think our excitement would be a little more muted like this,

"OH MY GOD, YES I KNEW IT, FINALLY, OH MY GOD."

 

Yes that's muted.

[heres2U]

I've been pondering the "when did Sheldon realize he loves her" question. I think that he started loving her a long time ago but would never admit it to himself. Last season, the psychic ( that he thot was pure poppycock) shocked him by saying he needed to commit to the relationship and his problems would all work out. Remember the look on his face? I think it was after that, combined with all the "combustion" in his life, that he really started to wonder about his feelings for her.

So I'm now convinced that that is the reason he ran away without saying good-bye to her. He was facing head-on that he had fallen in love with her. As others have mentioned, there has been such a change in his persona around her this season. I think it was during his train trip that it all came into focus regarding Amy. So once he came home, i think he was waiting for the right time to tell her. And then Amy opened the door to that conversation. And we all fell in love too!

[Shamyfan]

The psychic did say if he gave himself to her, everything will come together.

[JourneyIntoShamy]

I've been pondering the "when did Sheldon realize he loves her" question. I think that he started loving her a long time ago but would never admit it to himself. Last season, the psychic ( that he thot was pure poppycock) shocked him by saying he needed to commit to the relationship and his problems would all work out. Remember the look on his face? I think it was after that, combined with all the "combustion" in his life, that he really started to wonder about his feelings for her.

So I'm now convinced that that is the reason he ran away without saying good-bye to her. He was facing head-on that he had fallen in love with her. As others have mentioned, there has been such a change in his persona around her this season. I think it was during his train trip that it all came into focus regarding Amy. So once he came home, i think he was waiting for the right time to tell her. And then Amy opened the door to that conversation. And we all fell in love too!

 

I can actually see that in my head, yeah, like him freaking out over the fact that he probably loves her, and him trying to get to terms with that through his freak out, and then the comic book store fire, and he can't go anywhere to clear his head, and that's bad, and it piles on and on, and Lenny are engaged, living arrangements, oh no Amy suggested we live together!! But I love her, I think???, that's scary, that's so damn scary, I can't do this anymore, I've overwhelmed, I need to get away.

 

My poor baby Sheldon.

[wowbagger]

Journey, there is merit in the idea that Sheldon made the declaration to pre-empt Amy. But it also worries ne, because that leaves the shadow of doubt in my mind that he wasn't ready, truly ready.

@phanta, I agree that we don't need to have Sheldon's journey spelled out for us. But I am not really asking for people to look at the camera and say 'did you get that? That is Sheldon Fighting His Feelings for Amy'. I also agree that a lot of this season has shown Sheldon acknowledging to himself in small ways that he is in a relationship, opening up more and all that. More would have been nice.

As to the kiss: See, with the sex hijacking of the Sheldon/Amy relationship, they actually seeded the kiss pretty thoroughly. Almost TOO thoroughly, even. What you need to sell a kiss is to sell chemistry between the principals (check) and the right conditions (heightened emotion, for instance). Plus, I confess, I can't disentangle my shipper reaction from one of relief that the show had actually made a decision about Sheldon's sexual response, one way or the other. A declaration of love? Well, a curmudgeon like me gets very 'well, have you EARNED this, narratively?'

And look, I am sounding like a broken record now, so I will just say that I will probably spontaneously combust when I actually see thhis onscreen, I am thrilled that the show is serious about writing this relationship, I agree that they laid quite a bit of the groundwork, I just wish there had been more.

[JourneyIntoShamy]

Journey, there is merit in the idea that Sheldon made the declaration to pre-empt Amy. But it also worries ne, because that leaves the shadow of doubt in my mind that he wasn't ready, truly ready.

 

 

I think he was ready though. When he has a feeling, he knows it, and it sounds like he had thought it through. Was he ready to say it? Well, maybe he didn't feel the need to say it, not until Amy said what she said.

 

Remember what Professor Proton said?

"Appreciate them, Sheldon."

Maybe Sheldon wanted Amy to know, because he wants to know he appreciates her, and he loves her, so he killed two birds with one stone by saying ILY.

Edited October 16, 2014 by JourneyIntoShamy

[phantagrae]

Journey, there is merit in the idea that Sheldon made the declaration to pre-empt Amy. But it also worries ne, because that leaves the shadow of doubt in my mind that he wasn't ready, truly ready.

@phanta, I agree that we don't need to have Sheldon's journey spelled out for us. But I am not really asking for people to look at the camera and say 'did you get that? That is Sheldon Fighting His Feelings for Amy'. I also agree that a lot of this season has shown Sheldon acknowledging to himself in small ways that he is in a relationship, opening up more and all that. More would have been nice.

As to the kiss: See, with the sex hijacking of the Sheldon/Amy relationship, they actually seeded the kiss pretty thoroughly. Almost TOO thoroughly, even. What you need to sell a kiss is to sell chemistry between the principals (check) and the right conditions (heightened emotion, for instance). Plus, I confess, I can't disentangle my shipper reaction from one of relief that the show had actually made a decision about Sheldon's sexual response, one way or the other. A declaration of love? Well, a curmudgeon like me gets very 'well, have you EARNED this, narratively?'

And look, I am sounding like a broken record now, so I will just say that I will probably spontaneously combust when I actually see thhis onscreen, I am thrilled that the show is serious about writing this relationship, I agree that they laid quite a bit of the groundwork, I just wish there had been more.

 

I guess, then, that perhaps I'm not sure what it was you wanted to see in terms of earning it narratively.

What exactly would you have rather seen before he comes out and says it?  Do you think there is any doubt to the veracity of his statment?

How would you have had them earn that moment?