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Top 3 Shamy moments?

There are many Shamy moments that is worth to remember. Im not familiar with the title of each episode.. So forgive me.

1 - When Sheldon went away to think about things because changes are everywhere. And he was robbed and he called Leonard to fetch him instead of Amy. Inside the car, Sheldon told Leonard that he didn't want Amy to think less of him which is too sweet...

2 - The sweetest thing Sheldon gave to Amy is he made her as a point of contact in case of emergency.

3 - Of course the passionate Kiss coming from Sheldon and he liked it!

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I've always thought Amy's father was never in her life, that her Mom was a single parent. Amy never talks about him, but she mentions her Mom a lot. Might explain her awkwardness with men, including Sheldon. When he does kiss her, she is caught between wanting more, but not knowing what to do, and not wanting to push him to the point he is uncomfortable with his initiation.

Sheldon seems to bring a lot of his observations from his parents' behavior into their relationship. Amy not at all, as her Mom sheltered her. Until Penny, she had no basis to go on, it seems.

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From Rachelshamyfan in the season 8 thread:

One of my favorite moments of s8 was Sheldon admitting to Leonard that he's aware he can be difficult to live with

Very honest moment there 

 

This made me think about Sheldon not wanting to move in with Amy. We know Sheldon needs to be in control and moving in with Amy is a change that's extremely drastic for Sheldon. But what if, on top of his fears about change and intimacy, another reason Sheldon isn't ready to move in with Amy is because he knows he'd be difficult to live with? Although we know (and I'm pretty sure Sheldon knows) that Amy accepts and loves his "quirks," maybe Sheldon feels like he needs to work on himself more before deciding to take that step. Sheldon probably realizes how many times he has upset Leonard by needing constant control in the form of the roommate agreement, so he may fear the same may happen with Amy if they live together (and I'm sure Sheldon is bothered more by the idea of Amy being upset than Leonard). Maybe when he sees Lenny living together, Sheldon will realize how different it is to live with a girlfriend rather than a roommate - and that it will be a positive change that will make them closer.

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From Rachelshamyfan in the season 8 thread:

One of my favorite moments of s8 was Sheldon admitting to Leonard that he's aware he can be difficult to live with

Very honest moment there 

 

This made me think about Sheldon not wanting to move in with Amy. We know Sheldon needs to be in control and moving in with Amy is a change that's extremely drastic for Sheldon. But what if, on top of his fears about change and intimacy, another reason Sheldon isn't ready to move in with Amy is because he knows he'd be difficult to live with? Although we know (and I'm pretty sure Sheldon knows) that Amy accepts and loves his "quirks," maybe Sheldon feels like he needs to work on himself more before deciding to take that step. Sheldon probably realizes how many times he has upset Leonard by needing constant control in the form of the roommate agreement, so he may fear the same may happen with Amy if they live together (and I'm sure Sheldon is bothered more by the idea of Amy being upset than Leonard). Maybe when he sees Lenny living together, Sheldon will realize how different it is to live with a girlfriend rather than a roommate - and that it will be a positive change that will make them closer.

 

I need this to be true.

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From Rachelshamyfan in the season 8 thread:

One of my favorite moments of s8 was Sheldon admitting to Leonard that he's aware he can be difficult to live with

Very honest moment there 

 

This made me think about Sheldon not wanting to move in with Amy. We know Sheldon needs to be in control and moving in with Amy is a change that's extremely drastic for Sheldon. But what if, on top of his fears about change and intimacy, another reason Sheldon isn't ready to move in with Amy is because he knows he'd be difficult to live with? Although we know (and I'm pretty sure Sheldon knows) that Amy accepts and loves his "quirks," maybe Sheldon feels like he needs to work on himself more before deciding to take that step. Sheldon probably realizes how many times he has upset Leonard by needing constant control in the form of the roommate agreement, so he may fear the same may happen with Amy if they live together (and I'm sure Sheldon is bothered more by the idea of Amy being upset than Leonard). Maybe when he sees Lenny living together, Sheldon will realize how different it is to live with a girlfriend rather than a roommate - and that it will be a positive change that will make them closer.

You've made a valid point ! On a top of that, I actually think Sheldon already knows this difference, and that's the main reason, he's struggling with it. If he would think of her as a roommate, Amy  was right, she's perfect for it and he knows it - there would be no reason not to live with her. But he  knows their co-living wouldn't be platonic - roommate like. 

"Amy moving in marks a level of intimacy our relationship isn't ready for."

"You and I could live together. You and... Oh, sure. And while we're at it, why don't we get engaged, too? Why don't we get a little house, start a family? Enjoy our sunset years together? Do you hear yourself, woman?!"

This I think is implying Sheldon is thinking about living together state of being already comfortable with each other - on the same side in intimacy and for him  kind of ultimate declaration of his readiness to give her all the things, she wants/needs from him. And I think he's smarter than to jump into something, he isn't one hundred percent sure he can give her - give her promise, he now just don't know if he can fulfill. I think he  tend to be careful with any big steps simply because of fear of failure and consequences resulting from it. He's perfectionist and he has perfect stable relationship - any movement forward is change, and with Sheldon's  negative view on change, in his imagination it's most likely unnecessary risk with high probability of negative result - opportunity to somehow damage their relationship, which is perfect for him the way it is. After all he has no idea it can be even better, while all of relationships steps are first for him. He always discovers the positivity as aftermath, but the way leading to it is  scary for him every time.  I think a way to Sheldon finally asking Amy to live with him will not be much out of an influence of seeing Lenny living together (even while I'm not ruling it out), but more of Amy's constant assuring him of  let's say her hope in him. He will definitely need to know he will not 'screw up' by being a 'jerk' sometimes,that she accepts him, will not push him, but gently lead him forward, and that nothing will change in terms of what he love about relationship with her.  Just if we look what makes Sheldon tells her those three words, or her "It's okey with me that you're not perfect" in extension, it was those assurances what made him feel safe and  brave enough to take risk, open to her even more, step by step and slowly 'building  bridges' for her.  But that's just my POV :)

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I would like to point out that, adding to the conversation, that Sheldon has been thinking about his future with AMY. Even though it's said in a scathing manner, when he talks about starting a family, etc, it's been on his mind. He's been thinking about it. And, I read, that a sign of true love is imagining yourself with a person forever… I see that in Shamy. [emoji12]

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heellooo! I'm back! now at Sheldon's room haha

 

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GIRL ARE YOU TRYING TO KILL ME??

 

Just saw this on Tumblr dont know if it is already known about because i haven't been regularly posting to this forum lately

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Does this mean the episode might be about Sheldon driving? 

 

 

As for my top three moments. The ILY is actually not in mine for ~~reasons~~ but I'm going to pick some of my maybe less expected favorite moments.

 

1) Amy yelling at Sheldon in Anxiety Optimization. I love scenes that involve tension, and I especially love scenes that have Amy not taking any of Sheldon's crap, and this scene had both. Which is similarly why I'm going to also enjoy the shit out of the Kripke scene in the next episode because Amy calls Sheldon out on his petty jealousy. (Oh, and we can also throw in, "I PRESSED IT!")

 

2) "Then whisper it" from the premiere. Hello. Mama likes that breathing-in-her-scent moment above all else. We're starting to see that, even if Sheldon's going to turn around and make it a joke, he definitely enjoys being that close to her. All right, all right, all right.

 

3) I really have to go with the hallway scene in prom when Sheldon sees Amy and gulps and then freaks out and runs away and has a panic attack. Because like, he has seen her naked before. But this time, when he sees her like this, something is different. It's the fact that he's newly awoken to his own desires and they scare him, and I just love that.

 

Close runner up would be, "Its binding!" Because yes, I love Amy using the RelAg to her advantage, since Sheldon designed it for him to get his own way. 

 

I wanted to include the bathtub scene because that is my actual favorite scene of the season, but it's not Sheldon/Amy so I left it off the list. :laugh:

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Rachel, thank you for bringing up this topic. Some very good points have been made here, especially from starsamaria.

I agree, Sheldon definately knows the difference between having a roommate and having your girlfriend live with you. He has made it clear to Leonard that it is hard to refute Amy's arguments as to why she'd be an ideal companion. Obviously, he cared enough about Amy's feelings on the matter to try to hide behind Penny as an excuse for why it couldn't happen. To Amy, she is just a roommate settling in Leonard's old room with the same platonic conditions they currently abide by. To Sheldon, he sees it more intimately. He tells Stuart, "My girlfriend loves me so much, she wants to move in with me." Can you say panic attack? He sees her motivation is based on emotion and desire for a more physical relationship. This fear is confirmed in TLI, when he tells a stranger that he believes Amy is plotting to see his bathing suit parts.

Sheldon won't even share a hotel room with Amy for fear of what people may think, let alone live with her. While I believe this to be true, I think this is an excuse he uses because he is afraid of himself. Even their RA agreement sets parameters on how much time they should spend together, giving him a level of control. Moving in together nullifies that as they would be together day and night in a variety of uncontrolled settings. There is no longer a safety net in place for Sheldon to hide things from Amy he is not ready for her to see (i.e. his lack of confidence, vulnerabilities, and yes, sexual arousal, etc.).

I honestly do believe Sheldon knows Amy is the one. It is his fear of physical intimacy that holds him back (the primary difficulty in their relationship). I think his growing emotional attachment to Amy will get him there. Knowing Sheldon, he will be forced to engage when his need for Amy becomes more urgent then maintaining the safety net he has cocooned himself with.

I think Sheldon witnessing his Mom's hipocracy, had an effect on him. He is doing some serious thinking about the type of person he wants to be, as evidenced by his dreams, confessions to Penny and Leonard, etc. If he wants to maintain relationships with those he cares about, he knows he has to let go and embrace change, but it won't happen overnight. Leonard's gradual moving in with Penny will accelerate the process, I believe.

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Omo I loved the FwF episode. That moment was amazing. I always said they reminded me of an old married couple haha

Indeed they do, bickering while simultaneous adoring each other. When Sheldon called hear "dear" and also gave her public credit for her assistance with FwF, my heart melted.
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Just a thought here, but all the times the gang have played games and have split into teams, I don’t recall Sheldon and Amy ever being on the same side. In the scavenger hunt, they were teamed with others, in the games night episode it was girls vs boys and whenever they play their own games it’s always against each other, because no-one else understands the game. It’d be interesting to see them as a team in a game. The way I see it, Sheldon would start off trying to take charge and do it his way, Amy would put up with it until it becomes clear they are going to lose unless she puts her foot down.  Then when they actually win  (because lets face it, Sheldon usually doesn't win when he's teamed with someone) he recognizes the fact they are so much better together as a team, which leads to an epiphany about them living together.

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You know, I've always wondered why they've never had Sheldon and Amy paired up together whenever they've played games. My reasoning is that there's no way those two would lose if they were together, given their intellect and Amy's ninja-skills at everything. That being said, I would love to see them on opposite sides during guys-vs-girls paintball. I really think that game would go downhill and the couples would end up protecting each other.

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CBS is pimping Shamy hard this season, huh? It took them awhile to realize how popular this couple is - I remember the mini outburst on Big Bang's Facebook page around Valentine's last year when they put up a picture of Sheldon and Penny hugging and fans complained that they showed these two instead of Shamy, especially since the SIK had just aired. Then on Valentine's Day itself they gave us the "Nerd love" poster :D

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On another topic, with Sheldon driving, I thought it would be interesting to have a cold opening with Shamy parked and them making out in the car (not sex) with Sheldon in the driver's seat. This would so make up for not seeing any physical activity on screen this season. It would give us evidence of the development of their physical relationship off screen.

Wishful thinking? If not the car, Amy's apartment, Sheldon's spot?? It is hard to feel they are heading toward coitus when it appears they still can't touch each other. It kills me everytime Amy reaches out to comfort Sheldon when he is troubled and then pulls her hand away. She won't even kiss him back, or put her arms around him. She wants to, but is afraid of his reaction.

Ok, she kissed him under the misletoe. It was probably a peck that was over-exaggerated by Sheldon.

As I've said before, the emotional growth has been phenominal. I hope that Sheldon allowing Leonard to put his hand on his to click the mouse twice is a sign that Sheldon is overcoming his aversion to physical contact.

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On another topic, with Sheldon driving, I thought it would be interesting to have a cold opening with Shamy parked and them making out in the car (not sex) with Sheldon in the driver's seat. This would so make up for not seeing any physical activity on screen this season. It would give us evidence of the development of their physical relationship off screen.

Wishful thinking? If not the car, Amy's apartment, Sheldon's spot?? It is hard to feel they are heading toward coitus when it appears they still can't touch each other. It kills me everytime Amy reaches out to comfort Sheldon when he is troubled and then pulls her hand away. She won't even kiss him back, or put her arms around him. She wants to, but is afraid of his reaction.

Ok, she kissed him under the misletoe. It was probably a peck that was over-exaggerated by Sheldon.

As I've said before, the emotional growth has been phenominal. I hope that Sheldon allowing Leonard to put his hand on his to click the mouse twice is a sign that Sheldon is overcoming his aversion to physical contact.

 

Well, James Earl Jones promised Sheldon to take him to Tijuana, so he could see how Tijuana sex show looks like   :icon_biggrin: Maybe off screen Shamy are horndogs and we just don't get to see it, damn it! 

Amy's fears of Sheldon being flight risk and her keeping her distance, seems to me even worse since he ran away. I'm not sure if it is on purpose or writers just forgot they did a lot of grow with them in this area and could continue it. I think it would be nice to have debate on this topic. Maybe Sheldon wondering, why she isn't requiring any contact, while she always did in past, she could share her worries with him and he could assure her it's okey and he's not going anywhere... maybe he could not even finish that sentence, cause she would be already all over him :icon_cheesygrin:

I love your making out ideas, I will just add Amy's lab... don't know why, but every time they have lunch there, I can't stop thinking about other highly forbidden actions, they could accomplish there :icon_lol:

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Well, James Earl Jones promised Sheldon to take him to Tijuana, so he could see how Tijuana sex show looks like :icon_biggrin: Maybe off screen Shamy are horndogs and we just don't get to see it, damn it!

Amy's fears of Sheldon being flight risk and her keeping her distance, seems to me even worse since he ran away. I'm not sure if it is on purpose or writers just forgot they did a lot of grow with them in this area and could continue it. I think it would be nice to have debate on this topic. Maybe Sheldon wondering, why she isn't requiring any contact, while she always did in past, she could share her worries with him and he could assure her it's okey and he's not going anywhere... maybe he could not even finish that sentence, cause she would be already all over him :icon_cheesygrin:

I love your making out ideas, I will just add Amy's lab... don't know why, but every time they have lunch there, I can't stop thinking about other highly forbidden actions, they could accomplish there :icon_lol:

Oh, yes, Amy's lab. I forgot about that. Can you imaging Kripke walking in on that??? I'm dying here....

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