Ship Zone [Spoilers]Shamy S8 Thread

[CentralPerk]

It's weird. Next year I wasn't really upset by the final. I knew Sheldon will come back and they will be fine. But with this final, I don't know why I'm so upset and worried I am less positive.

I really hope Sheldon will show his feelings and what she needs soon/quickly in season 9.

Edited April 23, 2015 by CentralPerk

[Cecilia]

Tbh I am quite positive that it won't last much and things will get better if not in the first episode then soon enough. I keep my fingers crossed for a satisfactory resolve of this issue.

After reading about Amy being close to tears and how Sheldon will be confused and hurt and I am feeling for both I would so much like a happy finale once having them be happy...

[rachelshamyfan]

Amy wanting to "reevaluate" scares me a little and makes no sense when they've been getting closer all season

I mean they were gonna potentially get a turtle and live on mars together at one point and now apparently the distance between them may as well be from here to Mars

They just need to sit down and talk about what they really want and surely the relationship agreement has some sort of "cooling off' time frame in it?

[mothandfire]

First and foremost these crazy kids are endgame. Just wanted to put that out there.

So no these two are not in a conventional relationship. Yes they have both invested some of themselves to this relationship. Yes there has been change from both of them. No neither of them are blameless for manipulating the other in some way. Amy tricked him on Valentine's Day for example. However Sheldon by far has been more insulting and manipulative in this relationship. Where Amy does it to wring more romance and emotion from Sheldon, Sheldon does it to distance himself from the same.

Sheldon is amusing to watch. He however would make a frustrating romantic partner. Even if he wasn't an egotistical, rude, germaphobic, picky pants, he is socially inept. Not Amy level socially inept, Sheldon level socially inept. Sarcasm and irony are lost on him. That alone could make him frustrating to deal with. And a great deal of work.

So this leads us to Amy's relationship with Sheldon for 5 years. She has met a man more like her than anyone else. They are a highly compatible couple. She has never been happier than she has ever been in her entire life.

However...

I have never loved my husband as much as anyone else ever. That being said, I have never been as horribly frustrated and angry by anyone else ever. When you are emotionally invested in another person feelings run strong.

Now things that a loved one does that make you angry may not be a deal breaker for another couple. Infidelity, physical or mental abuse, chewing with your mouth open could all be deal breakers at the first offense, tolerated for years or always forgiven depending on your tolerance for said behavior.

Amy has reached her tolerance level with Sheldon for being absent romantically. She needs to decide if she can put up with Sheldon asking inane questions when he should be concentrating on her sweet lips. If she can, then yay because that is where we are at now. If not, does she want to have this happen every time they kiss? Every time they have coitus?

This is why she is taking a step back to think. This is why she needs to decide if her love for Sheldon is strong enough to cover the disappointment and pain she feels when he doesn't give her what she needs from her life partner.

Well said, Madamocho, precisely!

Anyone who'd  been in a long-term relationship would  agree with you particularly.

I myself, as being a parter with a Sheldonesque boyfriend over 10 years, has been in the same position with Amy, hence I completely sympathize with her.

Their relationship has never been a fair game for her to play, it's been askew to Sheldon's favorites from the first day.

Yes she'd understand  and accepted the rules = a RA that she has not much say in it, but since then 5 years has passed by and she had invested a great deal of tolerance and patience to keep this relationship working, can we honestly say that her effort has been equally reciprocate yet? For me, the answer is NO.

Edited April 23, 2015 by mothandfire

[rachelshamyfan]

I think at this point in their relationship Amy likely has a say in it

[mindtricks]

What if... The break up scene is actually Sheldon's nightmare?

By the way, I'm new here so... Hello!

[Marina]

 

Well said, Madamocho, precisely!

Anyone who'd  been in a long-term relationship would  agree with you particularly.
I myself, as being a parter with a Sheldonesque boyfriend over 10 years, has been in the same position with Amy, hence I completely sympathize with her.

Their relationship has never been a fair game for her to play, it's been askew to Sheldon's favorites from the first day.

Yes she'd understand  and accepted the rules = a RA that she has not much say in it, but since then 5 years has passed by and she had invested a great deal of tolerance and patience to keep this relationship working, can we honestly say that her effort has been equally reciprocate yet? For me, the answer is NO.

 

Just because your real life boyfriend is Sheldon-esque doesn't make him Sheldon, and it certainly doesn't make you Amy either. You're making it sound like Amy is only indulging in Sheldon's excentricities, but that is simply not true. She is a freaking weirdo, as much as Sheldon. She's the woman who finds the RelAg "so romantic" when Penny just doesn't get it. She is the woman who stuffs her mouth with fava beans because she's just curious about how many can fit in her mouth. She's the woman who makes her friend's wedding all about her because she has no concept of social boundaries. She's the woman who reads on the Internet that sleepover attendees often take part in experimentation with lesbianism and kisses Penny even though she clearly doesn't want to.

Like, seriously, Amy is Sheldon with a little more craving for social bounds. And she's been patient on some aspects of her relationship, true, but she's also been very pushy and rude with Sheldon at times. She flashed her genitals to him in the backseat of her car without a warning, she tried to manipulate him into giving her so romance, she pretended to be sick so he would give her a bath, she forced him to hold her hand at the movie, etc. Y'all making it sound like Sheldon's a monster and Amy's a saint, and it's like? Not true at all? They've both messed up, they've both made progress, and at the end of the day, they're together because they love each other for who they are ("his quirks just make you love him more"/"I like you for who you are, quirks and all"), and not because they're trying to turn the other into someone else that might be easier to deal with.

Edited April 23, 2015 by Marina

[wowbagger]

Preach it, Marina!

 

I can only speak for myself here, but I would like to point out that, in my opinion, Amy is neither a saint, nor a particularly well-adjusted or socialised person herself. And I mean that as a compliment to her characterisation. I personally dig Amy and Sheldon because they are both weirdoes in complementary ways. I am sick of stories in which one long-suffering, well-adjusted individual copes with an antisocial genius/weirdo/man or girl-child/whatever (cf. John and Sherlock in the BBC's 'Sherlock', Tony Stark and Pepper Potts in 'Iron Man', the entirety of Judd Apatow's romantic comedy oeuvre.)

 

Amy is patient and understanding, yes, but she is messed-up too, and occasionally selfish and manipulative. Good for her! How wonderful to have a female character on The Last Network Sitcom Juggernaut who is a character, rather than a free-floating collection of fetishes or fears. 

 

So no, I do not believe that Amy has put in her time with Sheldon, and now deserves nothing but his undivided and slavish attention. Sheldon blurted out an innocent question about a thing that Amy knows he loves, and Amy flies off the handle? Amy who has put up with his callousness in S6, his fearfulness in S7, and his obduracy throughout? Now that Sheldon is sincerely trying to be a good boyfriend, and is unpromptedly and unreservedly showering her with an affection he never thought he was capable of? Now 'Amy' decides to flounce out of the room?

 

Note that I put 'Amy' in inverted commas. This is because this development reads to me completely like the writers saying 'Hey, I was trawling through my bum-hole. Look what I found! Drama for the Shamy!'

 

Do I believe that Amy has a right to be miffed at Sheldon? Sure. Am I excited to see Sheldon in pursuit? Of course I am. Do I think the timing is ridiculous? Yes, I do. Amy had the entirety of S6 to complain about Sheldon's casual selfishness. She had most of S7 to complain that she was the only one driving the relationship. She had a golden opportunity at the beginning of S8 to peace out, at least temporarily. Now? Seriously, now?

 

And, while I'm on my soapbox, let me rant about the thing that REALLY irritates me about this development: I hate the way that the writers went to the tired sexist 'flouncing, foot-stamping girlfriend' well with Amy. Amy! Eccentric, venturesome Amy! Amy who pits her 'besties' together and experiments on them! Amy who got into an argument with her boyfriend about whether werewolves can swim! You were doing SO WELL, writers. WTH?!?

 

It's like the writers were thinking 'Hey, look, you know that hoary old chestnut about guys wanting sex and women not being ready? Well, we can reverse it with Amy and Sheldon. Boom! Revolution in television. Where's my Peabody?' and then decided that that freed them up to throw so much regressive bullshit about Amy continually pestering Sheldon to grow up, to move on, to acknowledge her feelings, to socialise her manchild. Why? Why? You had a delightful, unique character in Amy. Why did you have to turn her into first a long-suffering sitcom wife, then a long-suffering sitcom mother, and now a capricious, flouncing girlfriend. Gah.

 

Okay, I'm going to back away and have some tea and a lie-down....

[koops]

It seems like every season finale I fall on the other side of the majority fence. Last season I was ready to drag Sheldon (well, more the writers) by his feet all over Pasadena and let his head slam against all the sharp objects I could find on the way. This year I’m feeling so damn sorry for the guy. 

 

How many times have we had Sheldon say on the show that his mind does 5739 different things at the same time? And I don’t believe for a second that Sheldon was not into that makeout, given the way it was described. That’s what is puzzling me: how can we on one hand say “Oh, he looked SOOOO into it and so blissful and happy” and then turn around and say “But Amy was right in getting pissed because he obviously wasn’t into it”? I don’t think we can have the cake and eat it like that. I think Sheldon *WAS* into the makeout, and was very much concentrated on her, but when they came up for air his mind just went off the rails as usual and made a silly comment which Amy interpreted as a sign that he wasn’t really enjoying HER as much as she was enjoying HIM. And instead of asking directly to clarify, she asks these side-questions from which she wants to try and infer where his mind is at (“Is that all you’re thinking about now?”, using irony of all things), where Sheldon will definitely not get what she’s getting at, because he already struggles to get it in normal circumstances, let alone when his hormones were probably all in a tizzy and then she suddenly dropped the cold bucket on him. Yes, Sheldon has made huge steps forwards but I think there’s some things he’s never going to change at: getting distracted, not getting it right away, being occasionally clueless. He can get better at it, but there will always be hits and misses.

 

Not that he didn’t drop the cold bucket on her too, by all means. And not that I don’t think Sheldon has to learn to navigate these sexual situations in the same way he has learned to navigate other situations with her (for example, making sure he fixes things when she gets upset, something he’s made huge strides on). Or learn that yes, sometimes it might not be as obvious to Amy that he wants her as it is to him and he needs to make it clearer and make her feel desired. But he’s literally just getting started. His hormones might be going into overdrive now, but that doesn’t mean the “lingo” when he opens his mouth is going to change as easily and he’s going to start sprouting out sweet nothings right away and all the time. That takes time. And he will get there, like he got there for everything else. 

 

I frankly find this to also be the kind of clumsy pseudo-stereotypical writing these writers are often at fault for: men get distracted by superheroes/women get annoyed because they want attention. I totally get it, of course, that in *that* particular moment, given that it was their anniversary and they were so caught up with kissing, Sheldon’s line was a mood killer. And I totally get that maybe Amy has been feeling insecure about whether he really desires intimacy with her as much as she does for a while now (again, I go back to her fanfic) and this was the final straw. I get that.

 

What I don’t get is stuff like Penny tells Sheldon later: “When you are kissing a woman you should be paying attention to her.” I get it she’s trying to coach him through these first experiences, as she did with everything else. But the implication there is 1) women never get distracted during those moments and 2) if you get distracted for a moment it means you’re not really into the other person or what you’re doing and OMC DOOM DOOM DOOM, THE WORLD IS ENDING. Come on! Can we honestly all be honest with ourselves and say that everyone is always, 100%, completely and totally present in the moment every single time they even as much as touch their lips to their partner’s? Or that if that doesn’t happen then it’s a sign that something is wrong? I think that’s taking it a bit too far and a fairly romanticized view of love and sex. Yes, in the context of Sheldon and Amy, given Sheldon’s attitudes towards sex all his life, it obviously makes sense that Amy would step back and question it. But this stuff happens all the time. And, on the other hand, again, in the context of Sheldon and Amy, and given Sheldon’s attitude towards sex all his life, do we really honestly believe that he would be passionately making out with her on the couch AND keep going for more AND get grumpy when he’s denied another kiss if he didn’t love it? If he weren’t attracted to her? I think from the way it was described I think it’s quite obvious that this is not their first kissing session and that they are not scheduled sessions anymore either. And to look at those actions in that context. I think it’s very important when looking at the scene to remind ourselves that these are SHELDON AND AMY there. Not a generic couple. If he were any other guy, who makes out with girls like any other guy, then yes, I would get the annoyance. But to get Sheldon there in the first place there has to be huge attraction underneath it all. Because, again, this was not a scheduled peck stipulated in the RA. This was not a scheduled makeout where Sheldon stood there like a wooden board and Amy did all the work. This was a VERY consensual makeout session, probably after a date, because they were in the mood. Sheldon had a MOOD. We know he is perfectly capable to get completely absorbed in Amy: “What has that vixen done to me, Leonard?”. The V-day kiss where it’s clear as day his mind blanks and his feelings and body take over. The whole list of things he said to Bernadette about the things he loves about her where he gets that far-away look into his eyes and only snaps out of it when Bernadette talks to him. I have no doubts he is utterly into her, he just has problems expressing it and I don’t fault Amy, who already has issues understanding cues on her own and is also so inexperienced, for not getting it and being hurt. 

 

I do agree, however, that it’s important it’s not just about whether Sheldon wants it and enjoys it, but whether it’s good for Amy. That’s a good point too. And that’s why I’m not saying Amy should have continued to let him kiss her and ravish her when he spoiled her mood, just because he was enjoying it. I actually do like that she’s putting her foot down and saying “No”, and not just taking any sugar he throws her way. That was fantastic, IMO. And I also think that it’s a good plot device to have Amy confront Sheldon and ask “Ok, I need to know. What’s your deal when it comes to wanting me?”. It’s a good plot device to have the gears shift and write Sheldon as the proactive one, the one who calls the shots first, the one who *wants* and suddenly has to deal with “no”. I think that was the whole point. If Sheldon had broken the kiss and gone “I love you so much”, then the story would have been over there. 

 

I just think that, again, the drama was amped up a tad too much in the end. That I think it’s unfair to Sheldon and disingenuous to the whole relationship to make it come across as if Amy were reconsidering EVERYTHING despite the huge progress they have made until now. I can get Amy saying “there is something that’s been bugging me for a while and I haven’t had the courage to say it and I need time to sort myself out before I talk to you about it”. What I can’t get is “Being your girlfriend is exhausting and I need to step back and reevaluate the relationship”. After this season? Really? Because I did not see an exhausted Amy this season at all. I’ve never seen her so happy and smile so much around him. Yes, there was the Mars thing (which I actually think would have been a bigger and more understandable thing to have such a “reevaluation” over - but that was solved immediately), but other than that: cloud nine. eta: also, see everything wowbagger just said about 'Amy'.

 

But Maddie really summarizes all my thoughts in two lines (so why do I keep writing, I wonder!):

 

I think more than anything it was just a misunderstanding. Neither of them are wrong. She thinks he's not as interested in intimacy even though he totally is. She doesn't realize he has a freaking diamond ring. He doesn't know she struggles because she's always put him first.

Edited April 23, 2015 by koops

[Little Miss Purple]

I'm still sad today,and I couldn't sleep last night so that made it worse...

 

I can't believe we're getting the finale in two weeks,the last scene is going to be very difficult to watch..

[mothandfire]

 

 

 

Just because your real life boyfriend is Sheldon-esque doesn't make him Sheldon, and it certainly doesn't make you Amy either. You're making it sound like Amy is only indulging in Sheldon's excentricities, but that is simply not true. She is a freaking weirdo, as much as Sheldon. She's the woman who finds the RelAg "so romantic" when Penny just doesn't get it. She is the woman who stuffs her mouth with fava beans because she's just curious about how many can fit in her mouth. She's the woman who makes her friend's wedding all about her because she has no concept of social boundaries. She's the woman who reads on the Internet that sleepover attendees often take part in experimentation with lesbianism and kisses Penny even though she clearly doesn't want to.

Like, seriously, Amy is Sheldon with a little more craving for social bounds. And she's been patient on some aspects of her relationship, true, but she's also been very pushy and rude with Sheldon at times. She flashed her genitals to him in the backseat of her car without a warning, she tried to manipulate him into giving her so romance, she pretended to be sick so he would give her a bath, she forced him to hold her hand at the movie, etc. Y'all making it sound like Sheldon's a monster and Amy's a saint, and it's like? Not true at all? They've both messed up, they've both made progress, and at the end of the day, they're together because they love each other for who they are ("his quirks just make you love him more"/"I like you for who you are, quirks and all"), and not because they're trying to turn the other into someone else that might be easier to deal with.

 

I said I relate with Amy and feel for her, never said I think I was Amy.

Your attitude is being rude and aggressive.

Edited April 23, 2015 by mothandfire

[kimbee73]

Okay I have been thinking long and hard about this taping report and I have come to a conclusion about what I think the writers will do. If I repeat anything anyone has said already I apologized because I didn't have time to read through all the replies since last night.

Okay I reread the taping report and it says that Amy just needs time to sort things out, yes she wants a break to think things through.

So here is my theory:

I think Amy will take a few days just to think about what she wants to tell Sheldon. She was very hurt that he brought up The Flash during their makeout I completely understand that and then there are the other things which I have pointed out in an earlier post which I won't go into detail again. So I think she figures out how to tell him why she is so hurt by the distractions and he in the meantime has consulted with Leonard and Penny who help him realize why Amy was so mad. He then understands it because let's face it sometimes he needs it spelled out completely like when he had to buy her the tiara.

I think she calls about a week later, which is what I think will be the break....not 4 months.....then tells him she wants to talk.

She tells him that she is concerned that he does the things like kissing and other things because all he wants is her happiness and it isn't because he wants it and then he clearly tells her he does and maybe talks about his urges like at prom, why he panicked so badly.

Then they make up, again, I don't see the writers dragging this out, at least I hope not. And maybe they have their first sleepover in bed together with some serious making out.

 

Okay my theory and if someone has already come up with it, again I haven't been on since last night, and I apologize.

 

So all in all I am less upset then I was yesterday.

[Chelle]

What makes me sad about this finale is Leonard,Penny,Sheldon and Amy are THISCLOSE to things that will make them happy.... and then the bombs are dropped. 

 

Leonard and Penny are THISCLOSE to their wedding, their happily-ever-after.... until Leonard drops the "drunken kiss" bomb.

Sheldon is THISCLOSE to finally giving his commitment to Amy.... until Amy drops the "break" bomb.

Amy is THISCLOSE to finally getting the commitment she wanted from Sheldon... until Sheldon drops "The Flash" bomb.

 

I'm very positive about Season 9. I don't mind the writers dragging the Lenny wedding and Shamy proposal as long as it's finally answered in Season 9.I'm looking forward to seeing Leonard and Sheldon deal with commitment issues in a geeky way. I still find the "geeky" factors in this show, no matter how much a lot of people say that it's gone. They probably haven't seen the "nerd" show of 90s  - MTV's Daria. Even the nerd Daria Morgendorffer fell in love and it was complicated for her too.

Edited April 23, 2015 by Chelle

[kelliluvtbbt]

Okay I have been thinking long and hard about this taping report and I have come to a conclusion about what I think the writers will do. If I repeat anything anyone has said already I apologized because I didn't have time to read through all the replies since last night.

Okay I reread the taping report and it says that Amy just needs time to sort things out, yes she wants a break to think things through.

So here is my theory:

I think Amy will take a few days just to think about what she wants to tell Sheldon. She was very hurt that he brought up The Flash during their makeout I completely understand that and then there are the other things which I have pointed out in an earlier post which I won't go into detail again. So I think she figures out how to tell him why she is so hurt by the distractions and he in the meantime has consulted with Leonard and Penny who help him realize why Amy was so mad. He then understands it because let's face it sometimes he needs it spelled out completely like when he had to buy her the tiara.

I think she calls about a week later, which is what I think will be the break....not 4 months.....then tells him she wants to talk.

She tells him that she is concerned that he does the things like kissing and other things because all he wants is her happiness and it isn't because he wants it and then he clearly tells her he does and maybe talks about his urges like at prom, why he panicked so badly.

Then they make up, again, I don't see the writers dragging this out, at least I hope not. And maybe they have their first sleepover in bed together with some serious making out.

 

Okay my theory and if someone has already come up with it, again I haven't been on since last night, and I apologize.

 

So all in all I am less upset then I was yesterday.

ok..well put... now... take this idea and make it into a full fan fic story because i envision the same thing ( and i can't write worth crap  ) 

[koops]

Well said, Madamocho, precisely!

Anyone who'd  been in a long-term relationship would  agree with you particularly.

I myself, as being a parter with a Sheldonesque boyfriend over 10 years, has been in the same position with Amy, hence I completely sympathize with her.

Their relationship has never been a fair game for her to play, it's been askew to Sheldon's favorites from the first day.

Yes she'd understand  and accepted the rules = a RA that she has not much say in it, but since then 5 years has passed by and she had invested a great deal of tolerance and patience to keep this relationship working, can we honestly say that her effort has been equally reciprocate yet? For me, the answer is NO.

 

Sorry but I find the "anyone who's been in a long-term relationship would agree" a bit condescending. It's not the case that just because someone sees it differently, they don't know what they're talking about or can't empathize with Amy (or Sheldon). But I digress...

 

I think that because the show usually plays it so that we are meant to sympathize with Amy, it's very easy to ignore the fact that Amy is no saint either and that Sheldon compromises with her as much as she does with him. It's just that because Amy compromises by putting aside her needs, and Sheldon compromises by agreeing to things, it seems as if he's compromising less than she is. She is as involved in the RA as Sheldon is. I seriously doubt that things like Date Nights, Sing Along Nights, Anniversary Protocols, Family Events, making up for lost Date Nights and so on are things Sheldon put in the RA to skew things in his favor. They have State of the Relationship Summit meetings and Committee meetings to go through the RA and update it together. And she finds it hot and romantic.

 

She has on more than one occasion used the RA to her advantage, and, again, Sheldon has come out of his comfort zone to become the boyfriend he is today mostly because Amy pushed him out of his comfort zone. And she didn't *always* do it in a sensitive and selfless manner. She is incredibly patient and understanding most of the time, but she, just like Sheldon, can also be incredibly stubborn and when she wants her romance she wants it and coddammit she's going to get it. Like wow said, that's what makes her an interesting character to me. That she's not Little Miss Perfect. She's generous and loving and kind and smart and quirky and pushy and rude and clueless and manipulative and nagging. For as many people who love her out there, there's tons of people who also can't stand her. Their loss, IMO , but I can see why: because the flaws are there.

 

I do think Amy has put more than enough effort in this relationship to have the right to have a moment of doubt or a breaking point, and it's healthy for her to assess the situation and figure out what isn't working for her. But I think that Sheldon has put his own fair share of effort too, and I think it's unfair that every time that there's been progress the bar for him is raised to the next level almost immediately and we just tell him "not enough". Just like if you kept moving the endzone to a wide receiver that's running for a touchdown and then kept saying "well, he obviously isn't worth much, he never scores". If we keep moving the goal posts instead of looking at how far he's come, he's always going to come up short. But go back and look at Shiny Trinket, or Weekend Vortex and then immediately after watch Prom or Colonization, and tell me he's not a better boyfriend today than he's ever been. To be honest, I don't think I can say the same thing of Amy. Amy has been dead set on what she wants from S6, and she hasn't budged. The story has always been about moving Sheldon along to where Amy wants to be, but rarely to make Amy realize Sheldon might be right about some things.

 

I often said that it would be nice to see her realize that some of the more "fluffy", superficial things she wants (all the conventional romance stuff of dates, roses and candles, for example) are not all that cracked up to be and that the quirky, custom-made romance she has going on with Sheldon is much more satisfying because it's *real*. That the mushroom log is actually so much better than the stupid red roses because it's actually something that lasts and it's quirky and maybe there's some random touching reason why Sheldon picked it! Because every time she has let him be himself and taken the pressure off of him to conform to her idea of romance, he has swept her off her feet with his own brand of romance (Prom was a great example of that happening). And that whenever she insists to fit him into a square peg, she's always miserable, but when she embraces what works for them, he's gives back to her ten fold. There has been some good stuff in that regard this season (8x03, Prom, Fort), but these were more about showcasing what Sheldon and Amy have in common already that Amy learning something from Sheldon. I know that Amy is already a great girlfriend, so there's not as much to work there with her, because her desires and needs are totally understandable. But I do think there's some room to play with some of the not-so-crucial stuff to teach Amy that romance movies/novels are not all that cracked up to be. It would also be nice to showcase more the instances where Sheldon is the one that's more mature than Amy. Case in point: moving in together. She had decided she was moving in, end of the story. Sheldon realized that he didn't want her as a roommate and that living with a girlfriend is very different and they weren't ready for that level of intimacy yet. But who are we meant to side with in that story? Amy. Why can't the writers for once acknowledge that yes, Sheldon sometimes CAN be and IS more mature than Amy? That would help a great deal in making the relationship come across as more obviously balanced on screen. And more interesting to watch than one where it's always the same side who is constantly portrayed as being in the wrong or hurting.

Edited April 23, 2015 by koops

[mothandfire]

Mind I point out, would "particularly“.

I have No intention to offense those who have different opinions here.

Edited April 23, 2015 by mothandfire

[Tensor]

I said I relate with Amy and feel for her, never said I think I was Amy.

Your attitude is being rude and aggressive.

If you feel a post has somehow broken the rules, report it, don't answer it in the topic. As a point of fact, I can see nothing wrong with Marina's post.

[rachelshamyfan]

http://michygeary.tumblr.com/post/117154080594/do-you-have-any-bts-info-from-tbbt-finale-what

This is perfect describing

[kerrycec03]

Awesome Michy!!  LOVED THAT!

[kitlovesjim]

I cried reading the taping report over and over again. I kinda feel and relate to it. It was very painful. I just wanna share that I was in a relationship where I thought I was happy and lucky to have a man in my life. Then all of a sudden he texted me that he dont love me anymore. I was shocked and left in distress. Why? The last time we make out we were okay and then the next day, he suddenly changed.

That's how fast a person changed. I never know before but my hint was he grew tired waiting for me to give my full time and attention. I was a working student before that left me no time for him.

So does with Amy. She just grew tired waiting and expecting things to go on her way, not just Sheldon.

I feel sorry and I really cried coz I could feel what Sheldon might feel.

It kinda reminds me of my past and last relationship I once had.

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[musicsnob1971]

Totally agree with this.

Agree with both of you

[kelliluvtbbt]

OMG... 

 

 I GET IT!!!! I get why he decided to bring up the "flash" at that moment!!!!!! 

 

oh season 9 is going to be fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( i wrote a fan fic about it... just now... on paper... if I have time... I'll post it eventually) 

 

if the writers are going where i think they are going with this... there's going to be some funny stuff and also 'hot' stuff coming up in season 9. 

of course they had to have some drama and i understand why.

 

 

(of course... i could also be delusional!!! ) 

 

 

 

*  btw-   STORY HAS BEEN TYPED AND SUBMITTED ON fanfiction.net.  " THE DECLARATION AFFIRMATION"  ( yes, self-promoting...it's my first ever..published)

Edited April 23, 2015 by tbbtluv

[LeaGold]

OMG...

I GET IT!!!! I get why he decided to bring up the "flash" at that moment!!!!!!

oh season 9 is going to be fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( i wrote a fan fic about it... just now... on paper... if I have time... I'll post it eventually)

if the writers are going where i think they are going with this... there's going to be some funny stuff and also 'hot' stuff coming up in season 9.

of course they had to have some drama and i understand why.

(of course... i could also be delusional!!! )

I'm guessing there's an explanation in the doc? :D

[snow*flower]

And I have to say, during the make out scene was a little odd.  Just watching Amy push Sheldon back and him leaning back in and wanting more was slightly unusual but kinda hot at the same time.

[counterfactuals]

I am dying slowly with these descriptions of the makeout scene and BTS stuff. (By the way, you are AWESOME, Michy, I love your writing!)