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It's weird. Next year I wasn't really upset by the final. I knew Sheldon will come back and they will be fine. But with this final, I don't know why I'm so upset and worried :( I am less positive.

I really hope Sheldon will show his feelings and what she needs soon/quickly in season 9.

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Tbh I am quite positive that it won't last much and things will get better if not in the first episode then soon enough. I keep my fingers crossed for a satisfactory resolve of this issue.

After reading about Amy being close to tears and how Sheldon will be confused and hurt and I am feeling for both :( I would so much like a happy finale once having them be happy...

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Amy wanting to "reevaluate" scares me a little and makes no sense when they've been getting closer all season

I mean they were gonna potentially get a turtle and live on mars together at one point and now apparently the distance between them may as well be from here to Mars

They just need to sit down and talk about what they really want and surely the relationship agreement has some sort of "cooling off' time frame in it?

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First and foremost these crazy kids are endgame. Just wanted to put that out there.

So no these two are not in a conventional relationship. Yes they have both invested some of themselves to this relationship. Yes there has been change from both of them. No neither of them are blameless for manipulating the other in some way. Amy tricked him on Valentine's Day for example. However Sheldon by far has been more insulting and manipulative in this relationship. Where Amy does it to wring more romance and emotion from Sheldon, Sheldon does it to distance himself from the same.

Sheldon is amusing to watch. He however would make a frustrating romantic partner. Even if he wasn't an egotistical, rude, germaphobic, picky pants, he is socially inept. Not Amy level socially inept, Sheldon level socially inept. Sarcasm and irony are lost on him. That alone could make him frustrating to deal with. And a great deal of work.

So this leads us to Amy's relationship with Sheldon for 5 years. She has met a man more like her than anyone else. They are a highly compatible couple. She has never been happier than she has ever been in her entire life.

However...

I have never loved my husband as much as anyone else ever. That being said, I have never been as horribly frustrated and angry by anyone else ever. When you are emotionally invested in another person feelings run strong.

Now things that a loved one does that make you angry may not be a deal breaker for another couple. Infidelity, physical or mental abuse, chewing with your mouth open could all be deal breakers at the first offense, tolerated for years or always forgiven depending on your tolerance for said behavior.

Amy has reached her tolerance level with Sheldon for being absent romantically. She needs to decide if she can put up with Sheldon asking inane questions when he should be concentrating on her sweet lips. If she can, then yay because that is where we are at now. If not, does she want to have this happen every time they kiss? Every time they have coitus?

This is why she is taking a step back to think. This is why she needs to decide if her love for Sheldon is strong enough to cover the disappointment and pain she feels when he doesn't give her what she needs from her life partner.

Well said, Madamocho, precisely!

Anyone who'd  been in a long-term relationship would  agree with you particularly.

I myself, as being a parter with a Sheldonesque boyfriend over 10 years, has been in the same position with Amy, hence I completely sympathize with her.

Their relationship has never been a fair game for her to play, it's been askew to Sheldon's favorites from the first day.

Yes she'd understand  and accepted the rules = a RA that she has not much say in it, but since then 5 years has passed by and she had invested a great deal of tolerance and patience to keep this relationship working, can we honestly say that her effort has been equally reciprocate yet? For me, the answer is NO.

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Well said, Madamocho, precisely!

Anyone who'd  been in a long-term relationship would  agree with you particularly.
I myself, as being a parter with a Sheldonesque boyfriend over 10 years, has been in the same position with Amy, hence I completely sympathize with her.

Their relationship has never been a fair game for her to play, it's been askew to Sheldon's favorites from the first day.

Yes she'd understand  and accepted the rules = a RA that she has not much say in it, but since then 5 years has passed by and she had invested a great deal of tolerance and patience to keep this relationship working, can we honestly say that her effort has been equally reciprocate yet? For me, the answer is NO.

 

Just because your real life boyfriend is Sheldon-esque doesn't make him Sheldon, and it certainly doesn't make you Amy either. You're making it sound like Amy is only indulging in Sheldon's excentricities, but that is simply not true. She is a freaking weirdo, as much as Sheldon. She's the woman who finds the RelAg "so romantic" when Penny just doesn't get it. She is the woman who stuffs her mouth with fava beans because she's just curious about how many can fit in her mouth. She's the woman who makes her friend's wedding all about her because she has no concept of social boundaries. She's the woman who reads on the Internet that sleepover attendees often take part in experimentation with lesbianism and kisses Penny even though she clearly doesn't want to.

Like, seriously, Amy is Sheldon with a little more craving for social bounds. And she's been patient on some aspects of her relationship, true, but she's also been very pushy and rude with Sheldon at times. She flashed her genitals to him in the backseat of her car without a warning, she tried to manipulate him into giving her so romance, she pretended to be sick so he would give her a bath, she forced him to hold her hand at the movie, etc. Y'all making it sound like Sheldon's a monster and Amy's a saint, and it's like? Not true at all? They've both messed up, they've both made progress, and at the end of the day, they're together because they love each other for who they are ("his quirks just make you love him more"/"I like you for who you are, quirks and all"), and not because they're trying to turn the other into someone else that might be easier to deal with.

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Preach it, Marina!

 

I can only speak for myself here, but I would like to point out that, in my opinion, Amy is neither a saint, nor a particularly well-adjusted or socialised person herself. And I mean that as a compliment to her characterisation. I personally dig Amy and Sheldon because they are both weirdoes in complementary ways. I am sick of stories in which one long-suffering, well-adjusted individual copes with an antisocial genius/weirdo/man or girl-child/whatever (cf. John and Sherlock in the BBC's 'Sherlock', Tony Stark and Pepper Potts in 'Iron Man', the entirety of Judd Apatow's romantic comedy oeuvre.)

 

Amy is patient and understanding, yes, but she is messed-up too, and occasionally selfish and manipulative. Good for her! How wonderful to have a female character on The Last Network Sitcom Juggernaut who is a character, rather than a free-floating collection of fetishes or fears. 

 

So no, I do not believe that Amy has put in her time with Sheldon, and now deserves nothing but his undivided and slavish attention. Sheldon blurted out an innocent question about a thing that Amy knows he loves, and Amy flies off the handle? Amy who has put up with his callousness in S6, his fearfulness in S7, and his obduracy throughout? Now that Sheldon is sincerely trying to be a good boyfriend, and is unpromptedly and unreservedly showering her with an affection he never thought he was capable of? Now 'Amy' decides to flounce out of the room?

 

Note that I put 'Amy' in inverted commas. This is because this development reads to me completely like the writers saying 'Hey, I was trawling through my bum-hole. Look what I found! Drama for the Shamy!'

 

Do I believe that Amy has a right to be miffed at Sheldon? Sure. Am I excited to see Sheldon in pursuit? Of course I am. Do I think the timing is ridiculous? Yes, I do. Amy had the entirety of S6 to complain about Sheldon's casual selfishness. She had most of S7 to complain that she was the only one driving the relationship. She had a golden opportunity at the beginning of S8 to peace out, at least temporarily. Now? Seriously, now?

 

And, while I'm on my soapbox, let me rant about the thing that REALLY irritates me about this development: I hate the way that the writers went to the tired sexist 'flouncing, foot-stamping girlfriend' well with Amy. Amy! Eccentric, venturesome Amy! Amy who pits her 'besties' together and experiments on them! Amy who got into an argument with her boyfriend about whether werewolves can swim! You were doing SO WELL, writers. WTH?!?

 

It's like the writers were thinking 'Hey, look, you know that hoary old chestnut about guys wanting sex and women not being ready? Well, we can reverse it with Amy and Sheldon. Boom! Revolution in television. Where's my Peabody?' and then decided that that freed them up to throw so much regressive bullshit about Amy continually pestering Sheldon to grow up, to move on, to acknowledge her feelings, to socialise her manchild. Why? Why? You had a delightful, unique character in Amy. Why did you have to turn her into first a long-suffering sitcom wife, then a long-suffering sitcom mother, and now a capricious, flouncing girlfriend. Gah.

 

Okay, I'm going to back away and have some tea and a lie-down....

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I'm still sad today,and I couldn't sleep last night so that made it worse...

 

I can't believe we're getting the finale in two weeks,the last scene is going to be very difficult to watch..

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Just because your real life boyfriend is Sheldon-esque doesn't make him Sheldon, and it certainly doesn't make you Amy either. You're making it sound like Amy is only indulging in Sheldon's excentricities, but that is simply not true. She is a freaking weirdo, as much as Sheldon. She's the woman who finds the RelAg "so romantic" when Penny just doesn't get it. She is the woman who stuffs her mouth with fava beans because she's just curious about how many can fit in her mouth. She's the woman who makes her friend's wedding all about her because she has no concept of social boundaries. She's the woman who reads on the Internet that sleepover attendees often take part in experimentation with lesbianism and kisses Penny even though she clearly doesn't want to.

Like, seriously, Amy is Sheldon with a little more craving for social bounds. And she's been patient on some aspects of her relationship, true, but she's also been very pushy and rude with Sheldon at times. She flashed her genitals to him in the backseat of her car without a warning, she tried to manipulate him into giving her so romance, she pretended to be sick so he would give her a bath, she forced him to hold her hand at the movie, etc. Y'all making it sound like Sheldon's a monster and Amy's a saint, and it's like? Not true at all? They've both messed up, they've both made progress, and at the end of the day, they're together because they love each other for who they are ("his quirks just make you love him more"/"I like you for who you are, quirks and all"), and not because they're trying to turn the other into someone else that might be easier to deal with.

 

I said I relate with Amy and feel for her, never said I think I was Amy.

Your attitude is being rude and aggressive.

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Okay I have been thinking long and hard about this taping report and I have come to a conclusion about what I think the writers will do. If I repeat anything anyone has said already I apologized because I didn't have time to read through all the replies since last night.

Okay I reread the taping report and it says that Amy just needs time to sort things out, yes she wants a break to think things through.

So here is my theory:

I think Amy will take a few days just to think about what she wants to tell Sheldon. She was very hurt that he brought up The Flash during their makeout I completely understand that and then there are the other things which I have pointed out in an earlier post which I won't go into detail again. So I think she figures out how to tell him why she is so hurt by the distractions and he in the meantime has consulted with Leonard and Penny who help him realize why Amy was so mad. He then understands it because let's face it sometimes he needs it spelled out completely like when he had to buy her the tiara.

I think she calls about a week later, which is what I think will be the break....not 4 months.....then tells him she wants to talk.

She tells him that she is concerned that he does the things like kissing and other things because all he wants is her happiness and it isn't because he wants it and then he clearly tells her he does and maybe talks about his urges like at prom, why he panicked so badly.

Then they make up, again, I don't see the writers dragging this out, at least I hope not. And maybe they have their first sleepover in bed together with some serious making out.

 

Okay my theory and if someone has already come up with it, again I haven't been on since last night, and I apologize.

 

So all in all I am less upset then I was yesterday.

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What makes me sad about this finale is Leonard,Penny,Sheldon and Amy are THISCLOSE to things that will make them happy.... and then the bombs are dropped. 

 

Leonard and Penny are THISCLOSE to their wedding, their happily-ever-after.... until Leonard drops the "drunken kiss" bomb.

Sheldon is THISCLOSE to finally giving his commitment to Amy.... until Amy drops the "break" bomb.

Amy is THISCLOSE to finally getting the commitment she wanted from Sheldon... until Sheldon drops "The Flash" bomb.

 

I'm very positive about Season 9. I don't mind the writers dragging the Lenny wedding and Shamy proposal as long as it's finally answered in Season 9.I'm looking forward to seeing Leonard and Sheldon deal with commitment issues in a geeky way. I still find the "geeky" factors in this show, no matter how much a lot of people say that it's gone. They probably haven't seen the "nerd" show of 90s  - MTV's Daria. Even the nerd Daria Morgendorffer fell in love and it was complicated for her too.

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Okay I have been thinking long and hard about this taping report and I have come to a conclusion about what I think the writers will do. If I repeat anything anyone has said already I apologized because I didn't have time to read through all the replies since last night.

Okay I reread the taping report and it says that Amy just needs time to sort things out, yes she wants a break to think things through.

So here is my theory:

I think Amy will take a few days just to think about what she wants to tell Sheldon. She was very hurt that he brought up The Flash during their makeout I completely understand that and then there are the other things which I have pointed out in an earlier post which I won't go into detail again. So I think she figures out how to tell him why she is so hurt by the distractions and he in the meantime has consulted with Leonard and Penny who help him realize why Amy was so mad. He then understands it because let's face it sometimes he needs it spelled out completely like when he had to buy her the tiara.

I think she calls about a week later, which is what I think will be the break....not 4 months.....then tells him she wants to talk.

She tells him that she is concerned that he does the things like kissing and other things because all he wants is her happiness and it isn't because he wants it and then he clearly tells her he does and maybe talks about his urges like at prom, why he panicked so badly.

Then they make up, again, I don't see the writers dragging this out, at least I hope not. And maybe they have their first sleepover in bed together with some serious making out.

 

Okay my theory and if someone has already come up with it, again I haven't been on since last night, and I apologize.

 

So all in all I am less upset then I was yesterday.

ok..well put... now... take this idea and make it into a full fan fic story because i envision the same thing ( and i can't write worth crap :)  ) 

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Mind I point out, would "particularly“.

I have No intention to offense those who have different opinions here.

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I said I relate with Amy and feel for her, never said I think I was Amy.

Your attitude is being rude and aggressive.

If you feel a post has somehow broken the rules, report it, don't answer it in the topic. As a point of fact, I can see nothing wrong with Marina's post.

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I cried reading the taping report over and over again. I kinda feel and relate to it. It was very painful. I just wanna share that I was in a relationship where I thought I was happy and lucky to have a man in my life. Then all of a sudden he texted me that he dont love me anymore. I was shocked and left in distress. Why? The last time we make out we were okay and then the next day, he suddenly changed.

That's how fast a person changed. I never know before but my hint was he grew tired waiting for me to give my full time and attention. I was a working student before that left me no time for him.

So does with Amy. She just grew tired waiting and expecting things to go on her way, not just Sheldon.

I feel sorry and I really cried coz I could feel what Sheldon might feel.

It kinda reminds me of my past and last relationship I once had.

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OMG... 

 

 I GET IT!!!! I get why he decided to bring up the "flash" at that moment!!!!!! 

 

oh season 9 is going to be fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( i wrote a fan fic about it... just now... on paper... if I have time... I'll post it eventually) 

 

if the writers are going where i think they are going with this... there's going to be some funny stuff and also 'hot' stuff coming up in season 9.  :party:

of course they had to have some drama and i understand why. :)

 

 

(of course... i could also be delusional!!! :p

 

 

 

*  btw-   STORY HAS BEEN TYPED AND SUBMITTED ON fanfiction.net.  " THE DECLARATION AFFIRMATION"  ( yes, self-promoting...it's my first ever..published)

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OMG...

I GET IT!!!! I get why he decided to bring up the "flash" at that moment!!!!!!

oh season 9 is going to be fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( i wrote a fan fic about it... just now... on paper... if I have time... I'll post it eventually)

if the writers are going where i think they are going with this... there's going to be some funny stuff and also 'hot' stuff coming up in season 9. :party:

of course they had to have some drama and i understand why. :)

(of course... i could also be delusional!!! :p )

I'm guessing there's an explanation in the doc? :D

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And I have to say, during the make out scene was a little odd.  Just watching Amy push Sheldon back and him leaning back in and wanting more was slightly unusual but kinda hot at the same time.

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