Ship Zone [Spoilers]Shamy S8 Thread

[teletalk101]

I'm not convinced the Shamy proposal will happen for the 200th episode. The show has kind of pushed the Penny/Leonard relationship as the central one of the show. Leonard liking Penny was how the series started, the 100th episode was a throwback to their first meeting and developed into them dating again, and I feel like the 200th episode will be theirs as well. So, if anything from the Season 8 finale features in the 200th, I think it will be Penny and Leonard finally getting married. That would give the writers plenty of time to have Penny truly forgive Leonard for kissing someone else.

 

Also, the Shamy have quite a strong relationship. Communication is their strong point. I think they'll be sorted out by episode three at the very latest, and will more than likely be all sorted out by the end of the season premiere.

[MTBigBangTheoryFan]

Some more thoughts about the season finale: 

 

Yes this has been a great season for Sheldon and Amy overall. They did make a lot of progress in their relationship what a lot of good moments like in the Prom and Fort Episode. This was a good season for them. They are in a good place for the most part. 

 

But underneath all of that there is still some small unresolved issues between that that need to be fix. I was thinking of some of the stuff that happened this past season and looking at the whole picture I am not surprise that Amy want to step back and reevaluate her relationship with Sheldon even so things are going well: 

 

 

1 He wanted to ruin her Christmas and make her look like a fool in front of their friends. Yes he bought her a Present still but he was expecting her not to buy one for him so he could ruin it and make her look bad in front of their friends. .  

 

2 He didn't tell her about the Mars thing. Yes he did tell her he would want her to come with him but that was more after the fact. Maybe he was planning too before but  just causally mentioned it like it was no big deal.   

 

3 He ignored her during date night. 

 

4 His mind was somewhere else during the make out session. It made it sound like he would have rather do something else. I can understand be mad. 

 

Yes it Sheldon being Sheldon for the most part and he has grown.. But in real life t some of those things would make him look like a a** 

 

 

So looking at all of this it not surprising Amy want to take a break. she want to make sure he really want to be with her and that he is worth her time. Although she doesn't know he was going to propose, During it over Skype would have been a bad idea.  

 

I think the break will only last a few days (1 or 2 Episode).Season 9 will take place like the day after Season 8 at least. I think in the first or second episode he will go to her apartment and they will resolve their issues. I do not think he going to propose in the first episode of season 9. that would not be a good idea. I am still going with the 200th. 

Edited April 24, 2015 by MTBigBangTheoryFan

[Susana Alcira]

Lenny is the Canon couple, endgame since the Pilot.

Films, series and shows usually end with the Canon couple wedding, but in this show  Who knows? SHAMY is endgame too!

[Thyanic]

Some more thoughts about the season finale: 

 

Yes this has been a great season for Sheldon and Amy overall. They did make a lot of progress in their relationship what a lot of good moments like in the Prom and Fort Episode. This was a good season for them. They are in a good place for the most part. 

 

But underneath all of that there is still some small unresolved issues between that that need to be fix. I was thinking of some of the stuff that happened this past season and looking at the whole picture I am not surprise that Amy want to step back and reevaluate her relationship with Sheldon even so things are going well: 

 

 

1 He wanted to ruin her Christmas and make her look like a fool in front of their friends. Yes he bought her a Present still but he was expecting her not to buy one for him so he could ruin it and make her look bad in front of their friends. .  

 

2 He didn't tell her about the Mars thing. Yes he did tell her he would want her to come with him but that was more after the fact. Maybe he was planning too beofre but  just causally mentioned it like ti was no big deal.   

 

3 He ignored her during date night. 

 

4 His mind was somewhere else during the make out session. It made it sound like he would have rather do something else. I can understand be mad. 

 

Yes it Sheldon being Sheldon for the most part and he has grown.. But in real life t some of those things would make him look like a a** 

 

 

So looking at all of this it not surprising Amy want to take a break. she want to make sure he really want to be with her and that he is worth her time. Although she doesn't know he was going to propose, During it over Skype would have been a bad idea.  

 

I think the break will only last a few days (1 or 2 Episode).Season 9 will take place like the day after Season 8 at least. I think in the first or second episode he will go to her apartment and they will resolve their issues. I do not think he going to propose in the first episode of season 9. that would not be a good idea. I am still going with the 200th. 

 

ITA.. What about the 8x01:

 

 

AMY: Are you OK?

SHELDON: I'm fine... WHY DID YOU COME??!!

 

 OUCH!!!

[MTBigBangTheoryFan]

ITA.. What about the 8x01:

 

 

AMY: Are you OK?

SHELDON: I'm fine... WHY DID YOU COME??!!

 

 OUCH!!!

 

Yes I forgot about that. 

 

Penny would have punch Leonard  if it was Lenny in that situation  

Edited April 23, 2015 by MTBigBangTheoryFan

[Susana Alcira]

I´m so glad Mayim is back on twitter!

[DrWackaDoodle]

I´m so glad Mayim is back on twitter!

I really want duel Majim morning selfies... #justsayin

Malaro's comments about "breaking" Sheldon were interesting. It makes me think that this may be an ongoing story arc throughout next season and not just in the first batch of episodes.

Who's going to be at Comic-Con and can get us some answers?

[fitzsimmons]

I really want duel Majim morning selfies... #justsayin

Malaro's comments about "breaking" Sheldon were interesting. It makes me think that this may be an ongoing story arc throughout next season and not just in the first batch of episodes.

Who's going to be at Comic-Con and can get us some answers?

 

Dannii and I will be there. 

 

As for the "breaking" comment, it didn't sound like Molaro was saying that Amy should or will break him. Just that if she pushes him too much that he will. The implication to me was that that wouldn't happen, if anything. Like they will stay within the confines of what is safe for the characters.

[Tomasina]

Dannii and I will be there.

As for the "breaking" comment, it didn't sound like Molaro was saying that Amy should or will break him. Just that if she pushes him too much that he will. The implication to me was that that wouldn't happen, if anything. Like they will stay within the confines of what is safe for the characters.

I'll be there too but I can't waste a whole day (or more) waiting in line to try to get into their panel when there's so much else going on. Edited April 24, 2015 by Tomasina

[MJistheBOMB]

Some more thoughts about the season finale: 

 

Yes this has been a great season for Sheldon and Amy overall. They did make a lot of progress in their relationship what a lot of good moments like in the Prom and Fort Episode. This was a good season for them. They are in a good place for the most part. 

 

But underneath all of that there is still some small unresolved issues between that that need to be fix. I was thinking of some of the stuff that happened this past season and looking at the whole picture I am not surprise that Amy want to step back and reevaluate her relationship with Sheldon even so things are going well: 

 

 

1 He wanted to ruin her Christmas and make her look like a fool in front of their friends. Yes he bought her a Present still but he was expecting her not to buy one for him so he could ruin it and make her look bad in front of their friends. .  

 

2 He didn't tell her about the Mars thing. Yes he did tell her he would want her to come with him but that was more after the fact. Maybe he was planning too beofre but  just causally mentioned it like ti was no big deal.   

 

3 He ignored her during date night. 

 

4 His mind was somewhere else during the make out session. It made it sound like he would have rather do something else. I can understand be mad. 

 

Yes it Sheldon being Sheldon for the most part and he has grown.. But in real life t some of those things would make him look like a a** 

 

 

So looking at all of this it not surprising Amy want to take a break. she want to make sure he really want to be with her and that he is worth her time. Although she doesn't know he was going to propose, During it over Skype would have been a bad idea.  

 

I think the break will only last a few days (1 or 2 Episode).Season 9 will take place like the day after Season 8 at least. I think in the first or second episode he will go to her apartment and they will resolve their issues. I do not think he going to propose in the first episode of season 9. that would not be a good idea. I am still going with the 200th. 

 

Yep. It's definitely Amy's turn to take a break, just as Sheldon did. The difference is Amy actually communicated this with him instead of just disappearing without warning (I got my eyes on you, Sheldon ).

 

I love them both and they've grown so much in this season alone. They both, as previously pointed out by other members here, have lots to work on within themselves. I have faith that they'll make that happen so that they continue to be together and love each other. We've already seen what good a break can do

 

I'd rather have Amy back off for a while to think things through than to continue on as if any issues she has with him aren't happening and she keeps her feelings bottled up and she explodes one day and says, "I DON'T WANT TO BE WITH YOU ANYMORE!" Sheldon, at this point, is probably confused as hell and doesn't get it. Hopefully in due time he'll figure it out so that he and Amy can move forward with their relationship and he can....PUT A RING ON IT!!!!!!!!!

[keie]

I'm actually glad they are dealing with these.....final.....issue's, haha......before HE puts a ring on it, lol. I want them to be on the same page, ready for the same things before either of them commits to marriage. I adore them both but I honestly think they need to resolve these issues and get ALL their cards on the table FIRST. I don't want them to be planning their wedding or you know.....on their WAY TO BE WED and STILL having problems or issues between them coming up. I'm proud of Amy for taking a step back if that's what she feels she needs to do. This is the rest of her life  that she is planning to be with this man and if this is what she feels she needs to do at the moment, even though she LOVES Sheldon, as she said. Then this is the best thing for them both. Sheldon loves her and from what I've read from the taping report......he is trying to be a grown up and give her the time and space she needs. So good for them BOTH! I want it to be a happy and fun engadgement for them They will come out of this even stronger and in a better place for their future. 

Edited April 24, 2015 by keie

[teletalk101]

"I'm not sure how far he can go before she breaks him" could mean a lot of things. As this interview is meant as a teaser for the season finale, it's possible that after Amy saying she wants to take a step back, Sheldon has been broken. That conversation Sheldon has with Gollum is evidence that he is broken, because he has moved as fast as he thought possible, was ready to propose, and now Amy has basically said it's not enough. I believe Amy has good reason to take time out because while there has been a lot of progress between her and Sheldon this season, there are still times he has been an a** to her.  Her feelings, though, don't translate to Sheldon, but I'm sure she'll communicate them to him properly within the first couple of episodes next season.

 

On a related note - this is not helping me today:

[Judge-Apatow]

I'm counting on the wonderful writers we have here to get me through the summer with your promising fan fictions.

[loriparis80]

Some more thoughts about the season finale: 

 

Yes this has been a great season for Sheldon and Amy overall. They did make a lot of progress in their relationship what a lot of good moments like in the Prom and Fort Episode. This was a good season for them. They are in a good place for the most part. 

 

But underneath all of that there is still some small unresolved issues between that that need to be fix. I was thinking of some of the stuff that happened this past season and looking at the whole picture I am not surprise that Amy want to step back and reevaluate her relationship with Sheldon even so things are going well: 

 

 

1 He wanted to ruin her Christmas and make her look like a fool in front of their friends. Yes he bought her a Present still but he was expecting her not to buy one for him so he could ruin it and make her look bad in front of their friends. .  

 

2 He didn't tell her about the Mars thing. Yes he did tell her he would want her to come with him but that was more after the fact. Maybe he was planning too before but  just causally mentioned it like it was no big deal.   

 

3 He ignored her during date night. 

 

4 His mind was somewhere else during the make out session. It made it sound like he would have rather do something else. I can understand be mad. 

 

Yes it Sheldon being Sheldon for the most part and he has grown.. But in real life t some of those things would make him look like a a** 

 

 

So looking at all of this it not surprising Amy want to take a break. she want to make sure he really want to be with her and that he is worth her time. Although she doesn't know he was going to propose, During it over Skype would have been a bad idea.  

 

I think the break will only last a few days (1 or 2 Episode).Season 9 will take place like the day after Season 8 at least. I think in the first or second episode he will go to her apartment and they will resolve their issues. I do not think he going to propose in the first episode of season 9. that would not be a good idea. I am still going with the 200th. 

Does the fact that he contacted Leonard to pick him up from the police station instead of Amy count as well? I know he didn't want her to feel like he had failed, but still it had to hurt a bit to not be the first person your boyfriend calls when he's in need.

I'm actually glad they are dealing with these.....final.....issue's, haha......before HE puts a ring on it, lol. I want them to be on the same page, ready for the same things before either of them commits to marriage. I adore them both but I honestly think they need to resolve these issues and get ALL their cards on the table FIRST. I don't want them to be planning their wedding or you know.....on their WAY TO BE WED and STILL having problems or issues between them coming up. I'm proud of Amy for taking a step back if that's what she feels she needs to do. This is the rest of her life  that she is planning to be with this man and if this is what she feels she needs to do at the moment, even though she LOVES Sheldon, as she said. Then this is the best thing for them both. Sheldon loves her and from what I've read from the taping report......he is trying to be a grown up and give her the time and space she needs. So good for them BOTH! I want it to be a happy and fun engadgement for them They will come out of this even stronger and in a better place for their future. 

Your post made me feel better.

[Chelle]

It's amusing how the relationship arcs of the series went. They've taken some time, not hurried them. Earlier seasons, we know how Sheldon is about romantic relationships and Penny is having a hard to time to commit, with Amy and Leonard respectively being serious about them. Fast forward, Sheldon finally gets to be the receiver of a devastating message and Penny learns a deal breaker on her supposed-to-be wedding day.

 

Wolowitz and Bernadette would have more funny, geeky relationship moments if the writers would explore them more. My personal favorite was when Koothrappali and Cinnamon stayed with them as a house guest, with Raj "beating" Howard in the loving husband department. Koothrappali has the slowest relationship arc, but imo he's funny on his own.

Edited April 24, 2015 by Chelle

[xxmimiaxx]

It's amusing how the relationship arcs of the series went. They've taken some time, not hurried them. Earlier seasons, we know how Sheldon is about romantic relationships and Penny is having a hard to time to commit, with Amy and Leonard respectively being serious about them. Fast forward, Sheldon finally gets to be the receiver of a devastating message and Penny learns a deal breaker on her supposed-to-be wedding day.

 

Wolowitz and Bernadette would have more funny, geeky relationship moments if the writers would explore them more. My personal favorite was when Koothrappali and Cinnamon stayed with them as a house guest, with Raj "beating" Howard in the loving husband department. Koothrappali has the slowest relationship arc, but imo he's funny on his own.

 

so true about amy and Leonard! this is what I'm looking forward to most now, this role reversal and its true, not just with shamy but lenny as well (never really picked up on that until now). And whats more is that its finally time to see how both sheldon and penny handle these turn of events which have never really faced them before (penny has never had to worry about leonard cheating and now has to deal with the feelings that come with that revelation and sheldon has never had to worry about amy rejecting or 'taking a break' from him since she's always been right there waiting for him when he's ready, so to speak).

[Susana Alcira]

I M O, this "break" would be solved in the first  three  or four episodes, no more. Amy is not Penny. Amy doesn´t live in same the building. May be she visits Penny for "night girls" or Bernie and Penny visit her at home.

But having dinner together in 4A is iconic for the gang, the whole gang! 

Do you see Amy driving from Glendale just to have dinner with her friends,( during  a long term), at Sheldon´s apartment, with Sheldon in it, when she needs "space"?!

When Penny broke up with Leonard, was because she didn´t want to say " I L Y " to him,  but Amy said"I LOVE YOU" to Sheldon when she told him she needs space to think about their relationship!

May be they show us Lenny having dinner together at 4B, Sheldon alone in 4A and Amy alone in 314, having tea at he same time, with sad faces. It will be ok for one or two episodes, but no more.

May be they show SHAMY  at work, at Howardette home, at a random coffee shop discusing the RA or in an event that incudes the whole gang, but SHAMY together doing their weird things is GOLD for TBBT and the writers!

[tmp]

Tmp, I always love your posts and I agree so much!

 

Aww, thanks.  

[fitzsimmons]

I'll be there too but I can't waste a whole day (or more) waiting in line to try to get into their panel when there's so much else going on.

 

Last year wasn't so bad. I got in line at 8am, panel was over before noon. All depends on the schedule and what room they're in, which we won't know until probably a week or two before the con. Siiiiggghhhhh....

[Judge-Apatow]

I don't expect the break to last too long. I do however hope it isn't handled with as much brevity as last years cliffhanger. I don't want the writers to simply sweep Amy's feelings under the rug again. I really wanna see Sheldon pine and grovel for Amy. I want Sheldon to woo her. I want him to win her over. I want them to make it clear that this is no longer a relationship that "skews in his favor". They have a really good opportunity to change the dynamic in this relationship. And then I want it to lead to sexual tension. In Sheldon's effort to win Amy back, I want them to make it clear just how much he physically desires Amy. We know Sheldon is going to have a hard time emotionally. That was established at the 25th cat. We know she means a lot to him. But so does Leonard and Penny and the rest of the gang. We know Sheldon has a hard time giving his friends up. He was willing to give up his spot to make amends with Howard. When he grows attached to people they become staples in his life and their absence upsets him. This is why it's important that they don't just show him being sad that Amy is not there but they should also find a way to imply sexual desire and perhaps even the beginning of frustration because of her absence. Yes, I understand he never had sex with her before so her absence wouldn't necessarily add to sexual frustration but perhaps as a result of this break, it can be revealed that Sheldon has felt this way or perhaps time apart from her could make him realize that he wants to be as close to her as possible and that could lead to sexual frustration. I actually have no idea how the writers would illustrate that though. Perhaps these ramblings are better suited for fanfiction prompts.

I was however, very surprised with how much the writers were able to imply in that one minute dialogue after the kiss. They were able to give us a tremendous amount of insight into Amy's feelings and insecurities. We found out

• Amy doesn't just want to have sex with Sheldon. It's not just about sex.
• She wants Sheldon to want to have sex with her
• She does not simply want to be appeased. She cant carry on in a relationship that does not promise mutual desire.
• Not only does she respects herself to much to go through that but she respects and loves Sheldon too much to let him carry on

[rachelshamyfan]

This is why I'm partly confused, I feel the writers are just creating drama for the final because all season they've been great

Big moments like prom with the ily, clean room with sheldons realization that giving Amy a Xmas present and vice versa makes them both happy, colonization with hand holding, careful evaluation leading them to potentially getting a turtle which led to them talking about going to mars and a heartfelt hug, fort with their quirky negotiations and sleepover have all been brilliant

Then all of a sudden a backwards step, sure it will lead to better things but oh the drama

Edited April 24, 2015 by rachelshamyfan

[Dannii]

Dannii and I will be there. 

 

As for the "breaking" comment, it didn't sound like Molaro was saying that Amy should or will break him. Just that if she pushes him too much that he will. The implication to me was that that wouldn't happen, if anything. Like they will stay within the confines of what is safe for the characters.

 

You bet we will be! 

[stardustmelody]

 

I don't expect the break to last too long. I do however hope it isn't handled with as much brevity as last years cliffhanger. I don't want the writers to simply sweep Amy's feelings under the rug again. I really wanna see Sheldon pine and grovel for Amy. I want Sheldon to woo her. I want him to win her over. I want them to make it clear that this is no longer a relationship that "skews in his favor". They have a really good opportunity to change the dynamic in this relationship. And then I want it to lead to sexual tension. In Sheldon's effort to win Amy back, I want them to make it clear just how much he physically desires Amy. We know Sheldon is going to have a hard time emotionally. That was established at the 25th cat. We know she means a lot to him. But so does Leonard and Penny and the rest of the gang. We know Sheldon has a hard time giving his friends up. He was willing to give up his spot to make amends with Howard. When he grows attached to people they become staples in his life and their absence upsets him. This is why it's important that they don't just show him being sad that Amy is not there but they should also find a way to imply sexual desire and perhaps even the beginning of frustration because of her absence. Yes, I understand he never had sex with her before so her absence wouldn't necessarily add to sexual frustration but perhaps as a result of this break, it can be revealed that Sheldon has felt this way or perhaps time apart from her could make him realize that he wants to be as close to her as possible and that could lead to sexual frustration. I actually have no idea how the writers would illustrate that though. Perhaps these ramblings are better suited for fanfiction prompts.

I was however, very surprised with how much the writers were able to imply in that one minute dialogue after the kiss. They were able to give us a tremendous amount of insight into Amy's feelings and insecurities. We found out

• Amy doesn't just want to have sex with Sheldon. It's not just about sex.
• She wants Sheldon to want to have sex with her
• She does not simply want to be appeased. She cant carry on in a relationship that does not promise mutual desire.
• Not only does she respects herself to much to go through that but she respects and loves Sheldon too much to let him carry on

 

 

Perhaps they can show Sheldon dreaming of he and Amy kissing passionately again and this time we see him go for more with his hands....and he wakes up and lifts his bed covers up enough to look down at himself and we get the idea....   He says something like "not again" or something that lets us know this is something he has happen frequently.   I mean they can accomplish the sexual desire even in a scene or two easily...just enough to show that he does desire her and he knows it and realizes that he can't live without her in total (emotionally, intellectually, and physically).   He wants the whole enchilada.   I agree with your comments though.  They need to resolve it quickly, but not with so much brevity that it really isn't resolved.

Edited April 24, 2015 by stardustmelody

[MJistheBOMB]

This is why I'm partly confused, I feel the writers are just creating drama for the final because all season they've been great

Big moments like prom with the ily, clean room with sheldons realization that giving Amy a Xmas present and vice versa makes them both happy, colonization with hand holding, careful evaluation leading them to potentially getting a turtle which led to them talking about going to mars and a heartfelt hug, fort with their quirky negotiations and sleepover have all been brilliant

Then all of a sudden a backwards step, sure it will lead to better things but oh the drama

 

It's part of the game. I've always said never get too comfortable. Just when everything is like it has been for Shamy this season, they'll slap us with something like this. Although I'm okay with this. LOL.

 

It's okay for things to go wrong. If the pot isn't stirred every once in a while, I'd say that makes for a pretty boring TV show. I can't wait to see how Shamy works through this.

 

When Sheldon is ready to propose to Amy: "I lost the ring!"

 

When Sheldon is ready to finally engage in coitus with Amy: "I don't have any condoms!"

 

Okay, now I'm being silly but yes, the stuff that upsets us....trust me...it isn't going to end here.

 

...but OMG, he has a ring!

Edited April 24, 2015 by MJistheBOMB

[Cherry]

2 days after the rport I'm still confused and upset.

 

I've read all the arguments in favour of Amy. Sorry but I don't agree at all.

 

While I was quite fine with season 7 finale because it was very logical, we had several épisodes which were meant to lead to Sheldon's running away, this finale is totally failed because I feel like at the beginning of writing the scenario for this episode, the writers went " hey, we have nothing built up for this episode yet we need a cliffhanger for the hiatus. What could it be? Oh yeah, let's break the Shamy a little, they had such a wonderful season this year, it will break the rythm." or something around those lines.

 

Because no, there's no logic with this episode nor with Amy's reaction. I can't start understanding how you find this perfectly normal.

Just because of a very simple and innocent line the poor thing becomes awareshe's tired of pushing him? Well, sorry, but I think she doesn't have to push him in the first place. Of course, it would have made things much slower, but I'm certain she would have got the same results with more patience. Why being such in a rush? Because of HER OWN incertainties? It's not fair on Sheldon.

 

And by the way, I don't agree with Sheldon being an a** because of this line.

 

He's Sheldon and will always be.I think that most of the Shamy shippers tend to see Sheldon as a normal guy who acts eccentric but could be the perfect normal guy if only he wanted to.

And to be honest, that's what exasperates me the most when I come here. This total misinterpretation of Sheldon. Amy being a saint and Sheldon deliberately not wanting to act normally.

He can't stop his brain working randomly.

And I agree with Koops when she says that it happens to be distracted during a kissing or a make out session. Sheldon having no filter said it aloud. Well, here's Sheldon again...

 

I hope that during her thinking time, Amy will ackowledge that what happened during that night was nothing but Sheldon being himself, and that if she wants that Relationship to carry on, she'll have to be able to accept that.

 

So, this is why I can't understand the " How would you feel if your boyfriend did that to you?" Thanks a lot, but my boyfriend is not Sheldon. If I ever met Sheldon in real life, I couldn't make it until the end of the first date. Because Sheldon is not the normal guy, and will never be. So please stop thinking of him as if he were.

 

And at first, Amy seemed to accept Sheldon with his quirks. She knew who she had in front of her all along. She has changed faster than Sheldon, and now she has to accept him as he is again.

It's not easy. I think it's a natural thing that we tend to try to change what we consider as the other's flaws. It takes a lot of love, patience and wisdon to be able to accept someone "quirks and all".

 

As for Sheldon, he has already done a lot of progress, but maybe he needs to do dome more, like taking the initiative of the actions... But I don't think he needs to be faster. Season 8 has been incredible in this aspect: Sheldon has changed so much in so little time, I can understand why some viewers are confused by the new Sheldon and have the impression they Watch a different show.