Ship Zone [Spoilers]Shamy S8 Thread

[Tomasina]

This is different, though, because it's at the beginning of the episode. The SIK and colonization hug were at the end of the episode.

Presumably some of you will be changing your profile pics to the makeout scene. Do people usually wait until after the episode airs to do that? I've been on this forum for nearly 2.5 years but never noticed.

per forum rules, since some threads are completely spoiler free and promos count as limited spoilers, you can't change your avatar to that until the episode actually airs. You can post a gif of it in the episode thread though as soon as cbs releases it.

[phantagrae]

I've always thought, with the date night kiss, that the reason Amy didn't appear as into it was more to do with the logistics of filming that scene. Mayim and Jim probably couldn't get too involved in the motions of a kiss because they were aware dialogue was coming up in the scene and Jim would eventually have to break the kiss to speak. As a result, I feel they were both quite timid to ensure their lips could stay connected as it all played out so it was a smooth transition from kissing to speaking to kissing to speaking, etc.

 

That's just how I took it, but I wouldn't put it past the writers to have written it like that for a specific plot purpose.

The reason is that they were playing the two characters as inexperienced and kind of innocent in their technique. Even though Amy talks about French kissing, would she ever have done it before? Would she have the nerve to try it on Sheldon at that point, where they've only begun with these chaste kisses. I think they were going for a chaste, almost junior high first relationship kiss.

And maybe Amy's letting Sheldon lead and she's just kind of relishing the fact that he's kissing her. His hands are gently on her hips, she seems kind of almost stunned that he's kissing her, even though she's expecting it at the end of date night.

Even her first "ambush" kisses were little more than pecks, so she's not quite the make-out artist at that point.

They've obviously been working on their technique.

[rachelshamyfan]

Well in the drunk kiss in s4, Sheldon definitely kisses back....

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lqm52lV5Q91qkuekbo1_500.jpg

[Kazziedal]

Oh Boy, did I have the weirdest dream last night. I was watching the first episode of season 9 and It turned out that the night of the sleepover in the fort Sheldon  and Amy actually made love, which was why they where so comfortable making out and why Sheldon was going to propose. But Amy is terrified because she is scared to tell Sheldon she's pregnant and so she asked for a break to figure out what to do.

 

Seriously Brain!!!!!! Don't mess with my head like that lol.

 Cannot wait for the promo and pictures. 

[rachelshamyfan]

http://emmy4mayim.tumblr.com/post/117561798741/shamy-future

Bill responding to fan about shamy....

[Dannii]

well, life happens when you're busy making (other) plans  

[A Shamy gal]

Oh Boy, did I have the weirdest dream last night. I was watching the first episode of season 9 and It turned out that the night of the sleepover in the fort Sheldon  and Amy actually made love, which was why they where so comfortable making out and why Sheldon was going to propose. But Amy is terrified because she is scared to tell Sheldon she's pregnant and so she asked for a break to figure out what to do.

 

Seriously Brain!!!!!! Don't mess with my head like that lol.

 Cannot wait for the promo and pictures.

I can see them doing something like that because -

1. it would be coming from left field, which they like to do.

2. the sleepover wasn't planned

3. the timeframe of the sleepover and the finale would make the gap about four weeks, so it would work

 

Going against that would be -

1. the suspicion that Sheldon has been carrying a condom in his wallet ever since the Prom

2. even though the sleepover wasn't planned, I can't see either of them being that careless

3. I think if something like that had happened, there would have been a subtle hint along the lines of Sheldon getting a goofy look on his face when her name mentioned.

4. They've said they don't want babies on the show, so long unless the plan is for her to lose it.... which quite frankly would be horrible....  they're not going to do that.

 

 

Anyway, I've come to a new conclusion whilst trying to write a fic.  What if he wasn't thinking about The Flash at all but didn't want to admit what he was thinking about and said the first thing that came into his head.  Amy, knowing him as she does, isn't sure that is the truth and asks seriously, that's what you're thinking? And he still won't tell and her patience with him just snapped.

[Lionne]

I've always thought, with the date night kiss, that the reason Amy didn't appear as into it was more to do with the logistics of filming that scene. Mayim and Jim probably couldn't get too involved in the motions of a kiss because they were aware dialogue was coming up in the scene and Jim would eventually have to break the kiss to speak. As a result, I feel they were both quite timid to ensure their lips could stay connected as it all played out so it was a smooth transition from kissing to speaking to kissing to speaking, etc.

 

That's just how I took it, but I wouldn't put it past the writers to have written it like that for a specific plot purpose.

As a person who attended that taping, you are correct. When they did the scene, they did a kiss which, I thought, was very hot and had more lip movement. The audience went nuts and started screaming. They kept kissing for a good while until they broke it laughing, and Jim said something about not being able to get in his line. The audience front man told us to chill a bit because there were lines to get in, so they ran the scene again. The second, which they used, was not really as hot as the first, and they were definitely trying to work to get lines in and get them in when the audience wasn't going nuts. I was honestly a bit sad they didn't go for a third take, so they could get the hotness of the first kiss with the dialogue from the second, but they cut and went onto the next scene. Alas.

Also, In that scene, when Amy shuts the door, she gets more weak-kneed as she tries to walk into her kitchen, and said something that I couldn't quite make out. But it was something along the lines of, "that'll hold me a week."

I am not sure I will mind if the make out is in the promo....God knows I plan on watching the clip of it a zillion times over the summer.

This hiatus is going to kill me. Hope some people write some decent fan fiction to tide us all over. *fans face*

Drama, drama, drama.

[wowbagger]

I've always thought, with the date night kiss, that the reason Amy didn't appear as into it was more to do with the logistics of filming that scene. Mayim and Jim probably couldn't get too involved in the motions of a kiss because they were aware dialogue was coming up in the scene and Jim would eventually have to break the kiss to speak. As a result, I feel they were both quite timid to ensure their lips could stay connected as it all played out so it was a smooth transition from kissing to speaking to kissing to speaking, etc.

 

That's just how I took it, but I wouldn't put it past the writers to have written it like that for a specific plot purpose.  

 

Haha, Occam's Razor! I should have thought of this. That sounds eminently reasonable.

As a person who attended that taping, you are correct. When they did the scene, they did a kiss which, I thought, was very hot and had more lip movement. The audience went nuts and started screaming. They kept kissing for a good while until they broke it laughing, and Jim said something about not being able to get in his line. The audience front man told us to chill a bit because there were lines to get in, so they ran the scene again. The second, which they used, was not really as hot as the first, and they were definitely trying to work to get lines in and get them in when the audience wasn't going nuts. I was honestly a bit sad they didn't go for a third take, so they could get the hotness of the first kiss with the dialogue from the second, but they cut and went onto the next scene. Alas.

Also, In that scene, when Amy shuts the door, she gets more weak-kneed as she tries to walk into her kitchen, and said something that I couldn't quite make out. But it was something along the lines of, "that'll hold me a week."

 

 

....and confirmed!

[wowbagger]

I can't wait to watch this one, even though I know it's going to hit like a punch to the gut. Having Sheldon pull out a ring and then fading to black for the summer hits so hard in "the feels" the writers should be charged with a felony.

Personally, I am not surprised, after all that has happened this season, that we get shown that Sheldon has finally started really thinking about and planning his future, and he wants Amy in it forever. I feel like the turtle episode really got the gears in his head moving, and he knows he loves her and she loves him, and he realizes he wants a future with her. And apparently he's internally taken some subtle but massive internal leap forward, and I hurt for him, but am not entirely surprised, that he screws up the make out session and their 5th anniversary by not "staying on topic."

I used to say, a long time ago, that I felt the conflict in their relationship was not exactly over sex, but in Amy's faith and patience in Sheldon and his ability to run those things out. He's given her a lot of mixed messages over the years, and he has demanded a lot of coddling and management. Even with all of the wonderful things they did this season, like confessing their love to each other or having their first sleepover, there has also been Amy having to buy Sheldon bobble head dolls or teddy bears to bribe him to "behave," for lack of a better word. Although I don't recall him complaining about hugs, hand-holding, sex, or any of those things this season, obviously he has in the past. Ignoring her request for a kiss when she's dressed up like Snow White, telling her sex was still off-putting and ridiculous, telling her that when she wanted to hold hands she was pawing at him like a bear after a trash can of sweets. And then there is the answer at the moment she really genuinely asked: I know we have a very intimate relationship, but sometimes I want more. He tells her he hasn't ruled it out. In essence, Sheldon gave Amy the answer of "maybe" two years ago, and while he will kiss her after date night now, his answer over two years has never really shifted from "maybe." And during the time spent in "maybe," his tune has been inconsistent. He'll kiss her, but Leonard says it's not romantic. Sometimes she'll ask him to take a walk, and he'll snap that "everything is all about sex with you." Or vetch that a little kiss under the mistletoe is like being in a Tijana sex show. How long does Sheldon expect Amy to dangle in the land of "maybe," all the while getting conflicting messages? How long will her faith of what's under Sheldon's exterior, and the strength of her love for him, hold up under such circumstances?

I think it even makes more sense for Amy to finally snap just when she thinks everything is so perfect. It's their 5 year anniversary, he's said he loves her, they are really, REALLY kissing, and Amy gushes about their relationship and Sheldon responds by asking her....if he should pick up watching another one of his SciFi TV shows? It's a much harder fall from Cloud 9 than Ground Zero. Just when Amy is soaring with excitement that Sheldon is finally showing this passionate, romantic interest, he hits her with the fact something totally mundane and unrelated to her or them or what is happening. Just when the "maybe" seems about to become "yes," he talks about TV. He just doesn't seem into it the way she is, and it's like Amy hits earth and gets her rose-tinted glasses knocked off once and for all. What she sees as the reality before her is hurtful, disappointing, and a slap to the face. She stops cold, lashes sarcastically back at Sheldon and then leaves.

It's a huge reversal from last year, isn't it? Last season's finale had Sheldon snap at Amy, bashing the idea of her moving in, marriage, kids and settling down, and then storming off. Next thing Amy knew, he was on a fucking train to destinations unknown for length of time unknown. Why? Well, Sheldon needed time to think. He took 45 days, and honestly, who knows when he would have stopped if his stuff hadn't been stolen? Well, now it's Amy's turn to take some time to think, and woe to Sheldon, there's some pretty harsh things he has said in the past she might have glossed over then, but in her current state of mind she probably won't gloss over now. She doesn't know he bought a ring, she knows their attempt to buy a turtle failed and she had to scream at him that YES, their relationship had to take place on the same planet! On top of that, Bernie has even suggested she cheat, or mocked Sheldon's lack of sexual interest - what will Amy make of the feedback from her friends? What are they going to say to her during this period?

I don't know if this will lead to stalling tactic, break up, or turn the tables of pursuit. If used wisely, I think it's a great way to eliminate one scenario no Shamy shipper wants to see, and that's it being unclear if sex is something Sheldon really wants when they have it, or something he gives into just to keep Amy happy. I think we all want Sheldon to want it for himself, and want it bad, instead of something that finally happens because Amy pushes enough or decides to dump him because she's not getting any, so he caves to please her. That would be the worst.

I think, or at least I hope, that Amy comes back from her period of thinking and says that she's accepted Sheldon for who he is, that he's obviously just not a sexual person and she has been wrong all this time to push for it. She wants to stay together because she truly loves him, sex or no sex, and she's just going to take sex "off the table," like the first day she met him. He might object, but Amy won't believe him, and then throw back at him everything he ever said about any romance or physical contact - it's ridiculous and off-putting and germy and looks stupid. Sheldon will find himself arguing against himself and his own words, and realize what a clusterfuck he's made for himself. And Amy will pull out a new copy of the Relatinship Agreement, and tell him she's taken all the hand-holding, hugging and kissing stuff out, and he can read it and sign it while she makes tea. And there Sheldon will be, supposedly getting everything Amy thinks he wants, and unable to convince her otherwise, and realizing he's going to continue dating her and not be allowed to lay a finger on her.

It takes me back to an earlier episode where Sheldon found out he made a mistake and had to retract something. He said, "now that I can't have it, I want it more than ever." I see Sheldon burning with the same sort of desire for Amy; now that she's made it that he can't have her romantically or sexually, he realizes that he wants her like crazy. And I'd love to see that going on for a few episodes, and when Sheldon finally does kiss her again - RA be damned - she and the audience will know for sure this is what he really wants. That he loves her and wants her completely and fully, and he convinces her of it, and there is no more ambiguity about Sheldon's "deal" to debate.

Then, by God, that ring better make a reappearance!

 

Lio, this makes me feel better about Amy's outburst. Perfectly true that the descent from Cloud Nine is harder than from Ground Zero. Sigh- I still think it was done in a spectacularly graceless fashion. If Amy had pulled away from Sheldon and said 'way to make a girl feel special, bucko', or 'Sheldon, do you actually want to be here kissing me?' then I would - still have thought 'Criminy, girl, give the poor idiot a break.', but I would have got it. And hey, Amy's allowed to be the unreasonable one from time to time. What upsets me is when the show refuses to acknowledge that she is being unreasonable. Paradoxically, that makes me angry on Amy's behalf, because it shows me so clearly that the show doesn't think of her as a character whose pathologies deserve to be fully explored.

 

No, it was Amy choosing this moment to tick Sheldon off about the pace of the relationship that felt weird to me. Not only unreasonable- that's fine. In a fight, all sorts of stuff comes bubbling out, and there's nothing wrong with Amy getting going and then tearing Sheldon a new one about, I don't know, almost all of Seasons Six and Seven. No, my problem was that the choice of argument and wording felt forced. That choice of argument pulled me RIGHT out of the story. It made the puppet-strings painfully visible to me. I think koops is right that the writers used the argument about pace to jump-start Lenny's plot. And I don't have a problem with writers contriving stuff- that's their job. I have a problem when it feels contrived.

 

And it's a pity, because these developments are actually interesting. I like the idea of Sheldon being the pursuer. I like the idea of Amy saying 'eh, you know what? The sex stuff really complicates things. Let's go back to a meeting of the minds, and nothing else.' I like the idea of Sheldon being hoist by his own petard while his balls turn fifty shades of blue (sorry, sorry). I like all of those things. 

 

Ah well, here's to a summer of speculation and kvetching and anticipation, and (surely) the autumn and winter of the Shamy's content.

Edited April 28, 2015 by wowbagger

[kelliluvtbbt]

https://youtu.be/qE3Pc3rS5eM

 

Ok, so I made this compilation mix and it's not finished and I won't be completing because I had problems which I can't manage to fix.  Golden and The Search that are done while Heaven and The Wreck Of Our Hearts aren't.  Also, if the videos the short, that's because it was meant to be that way.  Enjoy!

it's been added to my playlist!!!!   

[boys3allc]

Lio actually succeeded in making me feel better thank you Lio! So here is my new crazy little prediction. After a a few episode chase on Sheldions part, they resume their relationship. On the 200th episode they have coitus , during which Sheldon proposes to her. In which afterwards Amy's ovaries grab on and never let go.

[CaffeineBuzz]

Lio actually succeeded in making me feel better thank you Lio! So here is my new crazy little prediction. After a a few episode chase on Sheldions part, they resume their relationship. On the 200th episode they have coitus , during which Sheldon proposes to her. In which afterwards Amy's ovaries grab on and never let go.

That would actually be funny, if he did propose just after sex the first time. Both because of Amy's line in the past "If Sheldon proposed to me during sex, my ovaries would grab onto him and never let him go" and also because it would parallel what happened with Lenny in their first proposal. Only in this case we know Amy would end up saying yes. The other thing that would make that a good plot device is that at first she would be all "whatever" when he proposes, thinking its just the euphoria of having had sex but then the sly devil pulls out that ring (cause this was his plan all along) and OMG THAT WOULD BE EMOTIONAL, FUNNY, AMAZING ETC!!!

[Little Miss Purple]

That would actually be funny, if he did propose just after sex the first time. Both because of Amy's line in the past "If Sheldon proposed to me during sex, my ovaries would grab onto him and never let him go" and also because it would parallel what happened with Lenny in their first proposal. Only in this case we know Amy would end up saying yes. The other thing that would make that a good plot device is that at first she would be all "whatever" when he proposes, thinking its just the euphoria of having had sex but then the sly devil pulls out that ring (cause this was his plan all along) and OMG THAT WOULD BE EMOTIONAL, FUNNY, AMAZING ETC!!!

Τhat would be priceless...I'm really sad about all this "break" drama,but I think I'm going to enjoy watching Sheldon chasing after Amy.

[kitlovesjim]

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Sheldon and Amy (Shamy) is a couple I really admired. I know they are just fictional characters but the way Jim and Mayim portray the roles for Sheldon and Amy, it felt like the two characters are alive.

I have mixed feelings about the break up or the cool off whatever it is. I felt there's a good and a bad side to it. Good in a way that we could able to see what Sheldon would do for Amy and bad coz they are both great people. They look good together.

I have hopes and dreams for them. Cliche to say of course, I want them to end up together.

I kinda agree to the analysis that Amy got upset because she was expecting something from Sheldon. As I read in the taping report, they were making out and Sheldon suddenly become distracted with the thought of watching the Flash series instead of saying something nice. The usual out of place Sheldon thoughts. But Amy's being upset is something different and hard to ignore. Before she was giving warning that if Sheldon didn't say something meaningful and from the heart she might end up her relationship with her. (It happened on their 2nd anniversary).

Amy, as someone said, is expecting sweet and kind to Sheldon. That's all.

I also assume when Sheldon said something about the Flash, he meant something different. He speaks metaphorically and this time, Amy didn't get the message. The Flash is known for his fast running. That means he is ready to take a step forward.

Sheldon is Sheldon. That's his ways. He is unique. And we love him for that. He is annoying, jerk as Amy would say, but we love him for that.

Sheldon for me, is humane in his ways. He displays concern ( When he cannot reach Amy) He is caring (when Amy was sick) He is a very good friend (When he ask Penny to never hurt his friend, Leonard), he show emphaty (When Howard's mother, Mrs. Wolowitz died he said he(Howard) has friend to get through it.)

I hope that they can fix this as soon as possible. Sometimes, life is not a happy ending. I hope they could start again. To fix their differences.

[heres2U]

I was thinking about how the events with Shamy happened in the finale a few weeks after our sweet fort episode. I'm wondering if perhaps

there were more scenes leading up to Amy's angst in the couple of episodes before the finale. Maybe those scenes had to be cut due to her father's illness and death, and the episodes rewritten. Then maybe the producers decided to go ahead with original finale idea, even tho it seemed a bit out of left field for Shamy, especially after their fun sleepover.

[rachelshamyfan]

I want promo pics!

"Stomps feet"

[puremorning]

I have a feeling, tonight may be the night

[rachelshamyfan]

I hope its tonight UK time and not USA night time, will miss them otherwise

To anyone who has my twitter, tweet me if they appear please, I will wake up at the alert to see

#whoneedssleep

[pisquenta]

Lio, this makes me feel better about Amy's outburst. Perfectly true that the descent from Cloud Nine is harder than from Ground Zero. Sigh- I still think it was done in a spectacularly graceless fashion. If Amy had pulled away from Sheldon and said 'way to make a girl feel special, bucko', or 'Sheldon, do you actually want to be here kissing me?' then I would - still have thought 'Criminy, girl, give the poor idiot a break.', but I would have got it. And hey, Amy's allowed to be the unreasonable one from time to time. What upsets me is when the show refuses to acknowledge that she is being unreasonable. Paradoxically, that makes me angry on Amy's behalf, because it shows me so clearly that the show doesn't think of her as a character whose pathologies deserve to be fully explored.

 

No, it was Amy choosing this moment to tick Sheldon off about the pace of the relationship that felt weird to me. Not only unreasonable- that's fine. In a fight, all sorts of stuff comes bubbling out, and there's nothing wrong with Amy getting going and then tearing Sheldon a new one about, I don't know, almost all of Seasons Six and Seven. No, my problem was that the choice of argument and wording felt forced. That choice of argument pulled me RIGHT out of the story. It made the puppet-strings painfully visible to me. I think koops is right that the writers used the argument about pace to jump-start Lenny's plot. And I don't have a problem with writers contriving stuff- that's their job. I have a problem when it feels contrived.

 

And it's a pity, because these developments are actually interesting. I like the idea of Sheldon being the pursuer. I like the idea of Amy saying 'eh, you know what? The sex stuff really complicates things. Let's go back to a meeting of the minds, and nothing else.' I like the idea of Sheldon being hoist by his own petard while his balls turn fifty shades of blue (sorry, sorry). I like all of those things. 

 

Ah well, here's to a summer of speculation and kvetching and anticipation, and (surely) the autumn and winter of the Shamy's content.

Amen

[tmp]

Lio actually succeeded in making me feel better thank you Lio! So here is my new crazy little prediction. After a a few episode chase on Sheldions part, they resume their relationship. On the 200th episode they have coitus , during which Sheldon proposes to her. In which afterwards Amy's ovaries grab on and never let go.

 

I've been predicting that the 200th will be primarily Lenny-centered, similar to Recombination Hypothesis, the 100th.  That would be fine with me; I adore Lenny and would love to see something big for them.  As long as Shamy doesn't break up, I'm happy with them.  As some have pointed out, the season finales tend to end with a big bang (ha ha ha) and then the premieres come back with a whimper--presumably since they're not in sweeps.  With that in mind, I see two possibilities for the beginning of s9:  1) Shamy stay together with a few changes such as less physical contact going forward, or 2) there's limbo or a break-up until at least November sweeps.  The first one would be OK, but the second one would be torture.

[bigbangsheldon]

 

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Edited April 28, 2015 by bigbangsheldon

[Maddie]

 

HOLY CSPRAEPT PLCAEAE CALLT RTHRE W[OTKR;COE O CANMT BEREATHE

 

I DIDNT IMAGINE IT

[rachelshamyfan]

Omfg

Thud

[kerrycec03]

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!