Ship Zone [Spoilers]Shamy S8 Thread

[Susana Alcira]

I love the way TPTB managed Howard and Leonard proposals,(specially Leonard)!  Bernie and Penny didn´t expect "the ring stuff" at all,  and it was wonderful!

I am quite sure the writers have a milestone hidden in ark about SHAMY in that moment, as all the SHAMY big moments are!!

WE KNOW HE HAS THE RING!!!!

[Chelle]

I was watching The Scavenger Vortex. I love the pairing of Amy and Howard, which is the most fun team in Koothrappali's scavenger hunt, which lead me to rewatch The Lunar Excitation. Ironically, it was Wolowitz who had the most interesting lines while pestering Sheldon to meet Amy:

 

 

Howard: Okay, what if I were to tell you tomorrow at 4:30, you could meet a woman who has been scientifically chosen to be your perfect mate?

Howard: Why don't you start with a cup of coffee and you can pon farr Amy Farrah Fowler later?

 

I'm holding my breath on the pon farring... that "later" has taken the word "later" to extremes.

 

 

 

[phantagrae]

I have changed my mind about the log, after rewatching the ep a couple of times, and I now agree with those who say it was just banter. I also don't think we are meant to assume the sleepover was anything but a happy experience for them, based on the way the episode ended and Molaro's statements about it. 

 

On a different note, I'm kind of worried as to whether they have cut out the makeout scene completely from the episode now, and gone with take 2. While I usually don't think physical stuff makes or breaks an episode, in this case I think it is such a massive thing to leave out, especially to give us some clues as to what progress they've made over the last year or so and where Sheldon's mind is at when it comes to it, that I would be massively disappointed/annoyed if the episode were to kick off from that 2-second clip in the promo and we go straight into the drama.

Why would they cut the make-out scene? I think that if they filmed it twice (I haven't gone back yet to re-read the TR) it was likely for coverage reasons, not just to make a shorter version of it.

[Desdemona]

Desdemona, you are right. I've been re-watching the older episodes, and one of my favorite lines was in S6 when Amy told Penny that if Sheldon ever proposed to her during sex, her ovaries would latch on to him and never let go. So she wants both, the intimacy and the permanent commitment.

I think she knows she has the commitment. Sheldon has said as much; that he wants her wherever he goes. However, when she mentioned having children on Mars, even though Sheldon warmed to the idea, it was after chastizing her for not wanting to keep it in her pants.

People tend to project their own personalities, thought, and feelings on others. We assume someone will react to a situation the way we would and become disappointed when what we expected to happen doesn't. The more I think about it, I think that is what is going on here.

I agree Amy is finding it harder to restrain herself. She is on fire and cannot understand why Sheldon isn't as well and assumes he doesn't desire her. Rather than express her feelings in a way that Sheldon can understand, she is lashing out about flowers, mushroom logs, the Flash, etc. Her frustration is really not about these things. She is in heat, and it is because of him and only for him.

I don't think Sheldon understands, yet, the effect he is having on Amy. Because he has been able to surpress/control his urges, he thinks she should be able to just turn it off. He doesn't get the connection between attraction, emotion, and sex and that her hormones are in overdrive.

Although she loves Sheldon, Amy is possibly evaluating if she can continue in a relationship where sex may never happen.

On the other hand, Sheldon has agreed to a sleepover and is now engaging in "foreplay". He is going further physically than he ever has before and doesn't understand why she is angry, especially when he assured her the Flash was only "one" of the things he was thinking of and tried to continue with the make out. He knows he is ready to permanently commit to Amy in marriage, which means he has accepted that sex will be on the table.

Regarding the proposal, I can see Sheldon going to Amy's apartment or lab after stewing for a few days. She tells him that she doesn't think he wants her, and he says, "Well, I can assure you otherwise". He whips out the ring and continues, "I was getting prepared to give you this, but you stormed out before I had a chance...."

You know, because that would be so Sheldon..... And by telling her it was his plan all along to propose eliminates the belief that he was pushed into it.

Of course that is just one of the many scenarios I've concocted in my imagination.

The word "foreplay" really made me fangirling, because the fought, that he knows what foreplay means, gave me goosepimples, oh boy! I liked that episode too, it was hilarious!

Sex is definitely in his mind, we have seen it several times, especially in the "Prom Equivalency", when her appearance affected him so much, that he ran away, because she looked so pretty.

And you are right, he is starting to prepare himself for taking the next step to get more intimate with Amy, otherwise he wouldn´t make out with her. And this make out, at least on the photos, looked hot, he even had his hand on her thigh. Who knows what would have happened, if they hadn´t stopped. Maybe their hands would have gone further....

Oh, Amy you were so close! He even wanted to continue their make out.

I like how you envision Sheldon would propose to Amy, I really hope he asks her soon. And you are right, it would wipe her bad thoughts away, once he proposes to her.

[MJistheBOMB]

Is it Thursday yet?

[rachelshamyfan]

We wish!

[Retroluv]

Oh, also after they cut, they kissed like twice more for like 3 seconds each. We're assuming for promo pics but we screamed again both times hahaha. It was so magical.

See, I think this is where they got the footage for the promo video. Though, I don't know why they wouldn't just use the actual make-out...

But those 3-second kisses had to have been filmed/photographed for promotional purposes only.

If that's not the case...the pitchforks and tables will fly on May 7...for Hell hath no fury like a Shamy shipper scorned (especially going into a hiatus!).

Edited May 4, 2015 by Retroluv

[koops]

I guess I was just getting worried because I remembered Michy saying that they shot it once as a whole scene without the kiss (or something along those lines) and I remember that was sort of what happened in Expedition this season with the hug before Sheldon and Raj went down into the tunnels, since they usually go for take 2 (or 3) in the final edit. I do 100% agree it doesn't make sense to cut it, I'm just getting restless about it, since the promo seems to be different. 

 

Is it Thursday yet?!

[A Shamy gal]

I'm not entirely confident Sheldon's birthday is in February. I don't think the show plays out in real time for us unless otherwise stated with a holiday episode. There could be months between one episode and the next on their timeline, or there'd never be any episodes set between late May and September. In the episode they threw the surprise party for Leonard's birthday, Penny says at the Cheesecake Factory that Sheldon is a "typical Taurus". You don't need to know someone's exact birthday to know their star sign, so if there is any accuracy to that episode that would put Sheldon's birthday somewhere between April 20 and May 20.

In reality the writers either forgot that Penny said that Sheldon is a 'typical Taurus' or that no one would remember the casually remark, because that's all it was really.

In the show, Sheldon never told Penny when his birthdate was and she was just guessing and because he thinks astrology is nonsense he never corrected her. It wouldn't have been important for him to do so. Also Penny said she never took him for a Pisces. From that, I would say that his correct birthdate does make him a Pisces.

[koops]

I think the birthday thing is classic writers nonsense of "Oh, we have an idea because someone in our writers room never told us their birthday so we will shove it in an episode even if it makes no sense!". While I think the Taurus line can be explained away easily, there's no way I can buy that in ten+ years Leonard never found out what Sheldon's birthdate was, that Mary never said anything to them, that... you know, he has a *twin* sister, so it doesn't take much to find out even if Sheldon himself didn't want to say, or that Amy didn't know given his birthday had to be on his Emergency Contact form. While it might be funny amongst co-workers, I seriously doubt that writer's closest friends or significant other(s) don't know. I could have bought a scenario where H/R/B never knew, but not one where L/P/A don't. 

[kelliluvtbbt]

Perhaps I'm over - analyzing .... 

 

But I think Sheldon gave Amy the mushroom log for a reason. The mushroom log lives for a very long time. I think that means Sheldon wants a long relationship with Amy, because Amy would have it for a long time and she would think of him whenever she looks at it. Unlike roses, which would die, the mushroom log, though not romantic, would endure.

 

*crawls back to tumblr*

that's what i thought too and i'm including it in my new fan fic that i'll post after the episode airs.

Edited May 4, 2015 by tbbtluv

[Chelle]

If the Shamy season 8 finale makeout scene got reshoot or edited heavily..... the ensuing RIOT will be *insert superlative negatory adjective here*

Edited May 4, 2015 by Chelle

[Geegor]

Maybe because sheldon didn't want to tell everyone his birthday he may have said he was a Taurus to shut penny up and then obviously revealed he was actually a Pisces

[mothandfire]

Sheldon had never said himself nor approved Penny's remark of being a Taurus, It was just Penny's unilateral speculation.

[Érika Souza]

There is the promo..

http://www.spoilertv...pisode-824.html

 

If someone didn't see...

Edited May 4, 2015 by Érika Souza

[Susana Alcira]

Sheldon has given back all the cats to the pet shop. All, except one: the Peterbald. It always sleeps on Amy´s spot.

[Retroluv]

I guess I was just getting worried because I remembered Michy saying that they shot it once as a whole scene without the kiss (or something along those lines) and I remember that was sort of what happened in Expedition this season with the hug before Sheldon and Raj went down into the tunnels, since they usually go for take 2 (or 3) in the final edit. I do 100% agree it doesn't make sense to cut it, I'm just getting restless about it, since the promo seems to be different.

Is it Thursday yet?!

Ok, I gotta admit, this is making me nervous. Michy (or someone else who was at the taping), can you explain how this scene was filmed?

I feel like I'm suspending logic completely by letting this worry me, but knowing that there was some lovin' coming has seriously been getting me through these last couple weeks of my credential program and I will NOT be a happy camper if that scene is cut.

Ok...calming down now.

[kerrycec03]

Ok this is SO not the same thing as the hug earlier in the season.  That wasn't part of the plot.  

 

this make-out IS part of the plot.  I don't see it getting cut ESPECIALLY since its in the promo

 

Confused how anybody could think its getting cut when its part of the CBS promo. 

 

And even it its cut-short (which is different than being cut) I kinda would expect this.  And they probably filmed it previously to get more close-ups, but filmed it live to get the audience reaction (which from our girls was HUGE). 

 

Relax everybody, on this one, I think you're worrying way too soon and over something not needed. 

 

All will be ok...Santa Molaro says so!!!

[kimbee73]

Thank you. I have been thinking the same thing. Why would they cut it if it is such a big part of the plot.

They would have to film the whole episode again if that were the case.

[karyshamy]

Well guys, from now on I'm going unspoiled. I don't want any new information for season 9, and I'll try to go through the whole next season completely unspoiled (hard thing for me, I'm a very curious person).

See you around!

[bigbangsheldon]

Is it Thursday yet?

 

Is it August yet?

[EleQueen]

Well guys, from now on I'm going unspoiled. I don't want any new information for season 9, and I'll try to go through the whole next season completely unspoiled (hard thing for me, I'm a very curious person).

See you around!

Oh, how I wish I could do that!

I will stay unspoiled till August, though. Oh, wait....

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[kimbee73]

I don't think I could stay unspoiled if I wanted to. I so wanted to but I am too curious of a person. Once I found out the information was out there I now need to read it.

[cityylights]

Sheldon has given back all the cats to the pet shop. All, except one: the Peterbald. It always sleeps on Amy´s spot.

 

LOL. Esau

[kelliluvtbbt]

I found this forum with the intent of being spoiled. I don't regret a single minute of it!

I was unspoilt for 6 years.... I missed out on all the wonderful and colourful discussions on here, promos, photos and such. 

There's no going back!

 

and... I have read such wonderful stories as well!!!!!!!!!!!!